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all4naija: Lol... What kinda game are you playing here? This your tongue-in-cheek statement has been played out repeatedly in this forum. It is clear you are an impostor hanging on to the dangling edge of string for survival. You are just fooling yourself with this comment though. I have read and understand your points and stands in your previous comments. You are just in a circumlocution bearing no good intention toward Nigeria and Nigerians.

dude,,, whats ur problem
tongue in cheek?
imposter

It seems you just have an objective and I will leave you to yourself

all4naija: People seem to forget about the topic. It speaks volume of what that SA nation citizens intentions toward Nigerians have become. Mind you, many of the South Africans are comfortable with such thing not the other way round you as you are trying to treat it from a sensible point of view.

I am neutral in such matter but after seeing the South Africans coming around without remorse and puffy nature it becomes obvious to stand the ground of defending my people as much as possible. They don't understand dialogue, they are too proud to listen to that. PERIOD! I think you are new to this forum all rather not having much debate on the SA related topics.

No one has forgotten about the topic

The topic is about an alleged attack on the Deputy High Commissioner in ZA
Sane minded people condemned it
I condemned it
But until we know more information, we cant say anything about it

Why would get into roforofo fight with stewpid elements who dont know better
Dont fight with mad people so u dont get mistaken for one


The people who run things in ZA know the power of naija
MTN Nigeria is responsible for 50% of the profit of the MTN Group
So believe you me, the exposed ZA people dont attack naija anyhow

They prefer to sieze ownership of the mines there and keep their brothers in slavery
xenophobia is a useful distraction for them

cciojazz: Great thread. Its nice to see that we are all so very intolerant of ourselves. Nigerians get vilified every time but they do not go out of their way spewing insults to prove a point. I guess we know who we are and words do not hurt. I have lived in South Africa for 5 years and it is true that MOST SA folk will go crazy when they perceive a threat. Like a poster here said. It shows psychological inferiority. Heck I have been asked 'What are you doing in my country? ' like so many times. 'To study you dumb f.....' But having said that, I believe that most people who act like that are the ones with a myopic view of the world. Find out and you will discover that they see the whole world as being within the confines of SA. They have never traveled out of SA and will rarely have a passport. IF they do, it is because they are coming to the same Nigeria on the tab of their NIGERIAN boyfriend. The sweetcheecks of this thread fall into that category.
But on the other hand is SEmuhlebaby. You can tell from her posts that while she does try to support her country, she does so in a calm manner and mature way. That indicates someone with a wider knowledge of the world. Traveled, educated and mature.
So there are always two sides to a coin. While every SA person might not be fun, some like SEmuhle are. I have met the good and the bad. [b]My 2 cents are the more educated and traveled an SA person is, the less they get involved in xenophobic talks. I always tell SA people that they see Nigerians the way they do because they hang out with the scum of Nigerians. [/b]I mean, an average SA girl goes after an uneducated, illiterate, drug peddling Nigerian and she honestly expects to see him in a good light? Pluuuuuuesssse.... There are good and bad on every level, every country and race. Look for the good and you will find it.... BTW. I honestly think SA is the most beautiful place in the world. The garden route is amazing and lekker...lol

All4naija I have requoted this post
Bolded is mine

The ZA people who have bad things to say about Naija is due to the fact that they associated with the lesser elements of our society - sorry

A country that has produced doctors who run things in the US and Canada and still makes waves everyday
Just last week one of us developed an app to study patterns as part of his project in MIT.. Im proud of him
Do you know some Nigerians were still lambasting him

Hate is Universal,,, bro Dont be consumed by it
LET IT GO

all4naija: I am against xenophobia, blahblahblah... What have you said to counter that than listing Nigerian problems to the benefit of SA?

You are not a Nigerian. You are an impostor.

You are wrong sir

I also listed the dark sides of ZA why? i have seen if myself
All i said is that we should not use that to adjudge a whole country


ZA people are insular because they see everything from their own eyes.. not really travelled
THEY ARE NOT ALONE AMERICANS ARE LIKE THAT TOO...

Some Italians engage in mafia but i refuse to agree all italians are mafias
Just as i refuse to believe all ZA are xenophobic because some of them are

Any body that believes ALL NIGERIANS are militants or fraudsters likewise IS A DAMN PHOOL

Ayee Idris: Op is Hera. lol

Ok then.. all i can say is that it is well

all4naija: Please, don't quote me again , you traitor! air-headed with no sense of belonging.

Then you insult me that i have no sense of belonging...

Belonging to what exactly if i may ask

all4naija: Please, don't quote me again , you traitor! air-headed with no sense of belonging.

Now i see you just have a view and you are not open to discourse
On what basis are you referring to me as a traitor

all4naija: That last line of your previous comment is uncalled for. You've just made a wrong point there. Stop supporting SA and their xenophobic inclinations.

Thank you.

I wil never support xenophobia
Neither do i support Domestic xenophobia or tribalism or ethnicism

All are harmful forms of discrimination

all4naija: I can see you refuse to understand my views on that particular thread with ornery. I sense this oftentimes as many South Africans claiming right in this forum and expecting Nigerians to compliment them for it.

If you think you are making any sense by leaving out things you listed in such argument, you are wrong, as they are parts of the reality on ground and most be stated they way they are even though they are not bringing MONEY as you pointed out. I would say they are punchlines anybody can use to his or her own advantage. That by itself is debatable. Don't ask my how. I know there are background to them as long as some of you are trying to act with aural of puffy and pride.

You seem to misunderstand my point with the Nigerian rhetorical question. It is as to my entitlement to the thread. It is not about using abusive words on people as you are alluding to here.

I am not acting with puffiness or pride
I said and say it again, Africans everywhere have always been known for their hospitality, love of women, food and drink

The xenophobia we talk about in ZA is perpetuated by an ignorant few who dont even know who they shd be fighting

Same here in naija

All the talk of Niger Delta emancipation, who is the person enjoying the secutity contracts, the generals
The ex-militants are fighting for monthly stipends while the lords use the presidential jet to and from Abuja

all4naija: The highlighted is always obvious about South Africans. I don't know why. As if what happens in other parts of the world justified their own. I think your people need re-education. That is a complete fact!Pleaseeee...

Dude what is your problem
Are you listening to what ive been saying since
I am Nigerian,,, are u?

shymexx: This is the South African national anthem:

Nkosi sikelel' iAfrika
Maluphakanyisw' uphondo lwayo,
Yizwa imithandazo yethu,
Nkosi sikelela, thina lusapho lwayo.

Translation:

Lord bless Africa
Let its (Africa's) horn be raised,
Listen also to our prayers,
Lord bless us, we are the family of it (Africa).


^^^So, why do SA(ns) hate other Africans if Africa is embedded in everything you lot do? - Can we all live together in peace and harmony?

Shy read my post above
It's because they don't know better
If they did they will know the true enemies are the neo economic slave masters and their black accomplices

Same with us in naija with the IMF and their puppets

We are all in the same jungle

We all don't know it yet

all4naija: I have nothing against South Africans than they should stop terrorizing innocent Africans on the streets. Do that for me and we will be good friends forever!

Yes on the issue of the xenophobia that is terrible and it comes down to lack of exposure of the people involved

The govt too is complacent about this because they prefer the people to have something to fight rather than they who are stealing and looting with the Boers

The ZA people un fortunately don't know this

How ever you yourself have used derogatory terms to use this to represent the whole nation

That is where I feel you strayed


Remember there is growing xenophobia in Europe especially in Greece but we don't say the Greeks are this and that bla bla bla

all4naija: If you revisit that particular thread you will see I actually protected the rights of Nigerian women in that when some of our men were trying to put them down at the benefit of the SA counterparts.

Are you trying to tell me to be traitor like them just to be accepted by South Africans? That I will not do. I state things the way they are. It is part of me.

Thank you.

Good of you to remember
The issue was simple: The Home Office seeming discriminated against some women with Nigerian husbands instead of being treated the same way as ZA women who marred foreigners
 
That was a matter of principle
 
But there was undue strife which came to the same thing as it is here ZA vs NGA
 
And what is being thrown around in the war
 
Sexy accents, Big Nyansh, Boko Haram, HIV, drug dealers, 419
 
Does this bring money into anyone posts
 
 
Who ever said you shd be not be Nigerian here
Does your own Nigerianness mean you insult every other person

all4naija: Okay. Not really. I would like you to stop attacking people's comments in a most ludicrous way.

Thank you.

Dude.. u are one of the prime attackers
Remember the last thread, on the issue of ZA ladies clamoring against discrimination for their Nigerian husbands

What is your problem with South Africa - I ask again

all4naija: What makes you think whites don't disagree with themselves on a hot debated issue?

You this guy again, we meet on a ZA related topic
What is your issue with South Africans

shymexx: Why do you care about what white people think? - inferiority complex and low self-esteem of the highest order

You're probably the type that cares about other people's opinions in whatever decision you make - grow up!

I dont think its about a complex but more of innate pholly by some posters here
To a caucausian it matters not whether you are nigerian or ghanaian or ZAian, to their eyes you are black and any divide and rule policies will be used effectively

In Europe, they saw the need for integration and thus the EU was formed.
This vision dates back from the 50s from the Benelux countries to the form we all know it today

The Americas formed NAFTA to advance their interests

What is wrong in a Pan - African vision

shymexx: Church!! It isn't even just tribe/ethnic-goup alone - race as well... I have met loads of great white and asian people who put their career(s) on the line just to save a brother from self-destruction... and that's something most black people won't do...

However, the competitive nature of the world that we live in and the injustice(s) of both the past and present would always make it difficult for most people to think above tribe/ethnic-group/race solidarity, tbh...

Great post, bruddah...

Thanks Sir
Its sad that there is a dearth of intellectual gray matter on this cyber land hence the proliferation of bigots who post spiel up and down

Goodysydney: Mumu....who care. I'm glad to be a hated Nigerian, when people know you to be a bad man, they think twice before tangling with you.

I thought you said this was a faceless forum
How will I know he is a bad man so I don't tangle with him

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AjanleKoko: It's a tough one.
If you ask me, the vast majority of Nigerian youth are badly disoriented right from their parents' houses.
They have little or no values instilled in them, are not taught to take responsibility, and in some case even have false hopes of the world built up in them.

Most do not even understand the value of money. Imagine there's a thread in the Family section asking if parents should disclose their salaries to their children. I don't know where all of this is coming from

What is wrong in parents making sure that children learn a trade asides going to school? How come parents are still deceiving their children that any tertiary education is all right? Maybe it's a ruse to get them out of the house, but I don't see the point of sending your child to Offa Poly to study Science Lab Technology, when you have no clue what such a person will do when they finish.

Mr Biggs, TFC, KFC, Tantalizers should all be filled with students on holiday, making some money to support themselves and pay some part of their schooling, while getting a taste of the real world. Even LASTMA, FERMA, etc. Rather most children sit at home twiddling their thumbs, watching nonsense music videos, and playing with their BB phones, which in some cases cost more than their parents' monthly incomes

Sweet!

GH Swagg: To all the decent Nigerians on Nairaland

When are you going to tell this Cusubaba/Goodysydney fellow to zip it Although he is one of you, he is a disgrace to you all. These are the type of people who give you all a bad name. It's about time you guys speak some sense into that empty brain of his

We dont need to tell him to shut up
When no one acknowleges his bigoted crap and you dont acknowelege any Non-Nigerian bigoted crap..
The Bigotry will slow down as it is doing now

More balanced posts are coming up
Why dont u focus on those ones and leave the bigots alone

@OP

Pleas refer to the famed advice on this football matter by Ujujoan

Ujujoan: Fist off, if he's in a public bar, the noise will be too much for you guys to have a reasonable conversation. It'll be better if you waited for him to get home.
Secondly, what is so important that you couldn't wait for a 90mins game to be over?
This is one area I don't interfere with in my man's life . .
I used to think football was just a game until I met him . . To these fanatics, it's more than a game. It's like their life!
Every day Chelsea has an important match to play, I pray and fast for them to win cos if they lose, I'll have a lottttt of consoling to do!
I won't lie, it used to be veeeeery annoying, but that's men and football!
Just because he's your fiance doesn't mean his life has to end . .
What will you do when you guys are married with kids crying and running all over the place, and his ignoring you and concentrating on SS because champions league finals is on
Abeg no drink panadol for unnecessary headache!

https://www.nairaland.com/1261799/dealing-football-addicted-fiance

Tolerance and a little feminine wiles go a longer than nagging

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Evestar200: they think by defending their countries will make their countries to be best,,,HELL NO,,we cant fight our bad goverment bt we re here fighting ourselves over what bad goverment hv done,,WE SHLD CHANGE OUR WAYS AND MAKE AFRICA D BEST CONTINENT

True talk ma

cciojazz: Great thread. Its nice to see that we are all so very intolerant of ourselves. Nigerians get vilified every time but they do not go out of their way spewing insults to prove a point. I guess we know who we are and words do not hurt. I have lived in South Africa for 5 years and it is true that MOST SA folk will go crazy when they perceive a threat. Like a poster here said. It shows psychological inferiority. Heck I have been asked 'What are you doing in my country? ' like so many times. 'To study you dumb f.....' But having said that, I believe that most people who act like that are the ones with a myopic view of the world. Find out and you will discover that they see the whole world as being within the confines of SA. They have never traveled out of SA and will rarely have a passport. IF they do, it is because they are coming to the same Nigeria on the tab of their NIGERIAN boyfriend. The sweetcheecks of this thread fall into that category.
But on the other hand is SEmuhlebaby. You can tell from her posts that while she does try to support her country, she does so in a calm manner and mature way. That indicates someone with a wider knowledge of the world. Traveled, educated and mature.
So there are always two sides to a coin. While every SA person might not be fun, some like SEmuhle are. I have met the good and the bad. My 2 cents are the more educated and traveled an SA person is, the less they get involved in xenophobic talks. I always tell SA people that they see Nigerians the way they do because they hang out with the scum of Nigerians. I mean, an average SA girl goes after an uneducated, illiterate, drug peddling Nigerian and she honestly expects to see him in a good light? Pluuuuuuesssse.... There are good and bad on every level, every country and race. Look for the good and you will find it.... BTW. I honestly think SA is the most beautiful place in the world. The garden route is amazing and lekker...lol

Bros you killed it
Met some of them making mouth about their naija boy freinds lol

Need to go shark diving when next I enter that town

PS the bede ladies remind me of the fulanis.. Fair and pwetty

The OP is confused... numerous topics

Kgdavid: the black man is unfortunately so foolish. of wat gud is it to hate another? Lord i run out of words.... progress is still a phantasmagoric ideal when we continue to think as we do. Africa must start from scratch because it remains clear that we as a people do not know who we are. we are lost in the translation of who and what a stranger has declared we are and so we find ourselves at this point; turning and turning in the widening gyre, the falcon cannot hear the falconer because the falcon does not even know that it is a falcon. the majority of people on this forum should be educated to some degree and yet the best we seem to be able to do is to pull each other down in order to push ourselves up. what we must realize is that if we push upwards together then we all will go much higher than any one of us could ever have gone on his/her own. i know that in reality most of those trading insults and all these foul comments are actually nice people but driven to a state of temporary insanity over vices that are common to all men. in every country around the world people kill and are killed, this is not unique to any race or location, what separates a more violent group of people from a less violent group of people are the predisposing factors such as poverty and education. these are the real enemies in our midst, these are the true foes worthy of our hate. unfortunately it appears that the greatest enemy of a hungry african is another hungry african. if the youth of today are not ready to change the way we think then we are set to continue course down the road that leads to destruction which our fore fathers have set us upon. we must unite... in a continent that is in such dire shape, it is striking that the giants of africa refuse to unite. those who could make a real impact even without the aid of the west- Nigeria, Ghana, South Africa and others refuse to see each other as partners for collective development but rather as threats to individual development. i am assured that most of you would rather get on with what seems to be your daily bread...wasting time "defending" your countries. i will be kind enough to excuse you now but know this: posterity will judge YOU.

Excellent post!

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery
None but we ourselves can free our mind

How long shall they kill out prophets
While we stand aside and look

Wont you help to sing these songs of freedom..
- Bob Marley

Evestar200: Are u guys still fighting over who OWNS AFRICA?,,hmmm foolish pple dat gat ntn to will come to defend their countries when their ogas @ d top are busy looting their money

Abeg my sis... Na so we see am
Zuma dey marry wives
GEJ dey chop oil block

Nonentities dey argue


[quote author=Royal^Pearl^]This is true. I for one do not hate anybody or have the energy or time for such nonsense.[/quote]ok...

[quote author=Royal^Pearl^]I have never once insulted Nigerians calling them dwarfs or ugly or hiv aids or any such rubbish. I have always been decent in my post. I know am not innocent, i respond to ppl who say crap and i maintain a certain level. I do not need to call ppl prostitutes or any such to bring my point across[/quote]Just know that not all of us share the seemingly prevalent sentiment of xenophobia on NL
We just want to live our lives simples

@all
Whether youruba, ibo, hausa, fanti, ewe, akan, xhosa, zulu or bede hate exists in people who allow it

Some people have treated me better than my own family members and we are not of the same tribe

Open your mind so that blessings will come your way

Ish

Ayee Idris: My response
Morticia, Morticia, Morticia. I am not trying to trivialize your pain, but from a movie point of view, you are so freaking lucky. Now in foreign movies, the bad mother in law is typically one that uses funny wise cracks to taunt or insult her in-law. The typical mother in law portrayed in our movies is diabolical and super evil. She is not just going to insult you with words,No No No..... she is going to insult your entire family tree dating back to the Kunta Kinte days. She is going to pour water on you...hot..cold....stinky....she is not picky. She is going to bring in another wife for your son. She is going to order you out of your home. She is going to initiate a fight and turn around to make it seem like you started it so as to get your husband mad at you. She is going to visit native doctors to turn her son's mind away from you. She is going to visit native doctors to try to kill you and your babies or she tries to do it herself because she is a witch. That is the typical movie mother in-law.


Aside from movies, we hear stories of horrid mothers in-law which made us believe that the movies must be true. Now these movies and horror tales made a lot of Nigerian girls, myself included extremely wary of mothers in-law. Some girls do wish their mothers in-law dead before marriage. I find that extreme but I do understand their mindset. I, on the other hand, have an awesome mother in law(Only seen her once since I got married a year ago, making her even more awesome, but seriously she is so cool and laidback). I have friends who are closer to their mother in law than their own mother as well as friends who completely shun theirs. There is no saying what kind of woman would end up being your in law, but I do think that the diabolical mother inlaw stance is a tad bit exaggerated. It is stereotypical to assume that most mothers in law are diabolical. We girls are going to mothers in law eventually. That would mean that majority of us girls would be diabolical mothers in law one day, which is fallacious.

So Share your tale. Do you think most Nigerian mothers in law are diabolical or is it just a small percent made to seem larger due to the stereotyping?

www.herapereira.com

OP.. I believe the above quoted is hera's own response to morticia and kole's story

What is your own experience

Chi16: tolerance yes...but there is a limit.

after the elastic limit there is a plastic limit before final breakage

..

^^^^

LMAO!!!