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agadez007:
most of sub Sahara Africans were scarcely dressed,i wonder why Afonja people want to make us believe that their ancestors dressed in D$G and Gucci

They even use it to mock ndigbo like it’s something to be ashamed of
See oyo women below

Its is just inferiority complex. It is normal for a human that have low self esteem like Afonjas to develop such when faced with superior culture like that of ancient Ndigbo.

PressMyButton:
All these are pictures taken after colonisation. If you had sense, you would notice the colour effects on the pics. An half-wit should know this.

You are now talking about colours?
So you haven't heard of the new technology called "colorizing effect" for old pictures to make them readable?
Mtcheww... You are Afonjas are dumber than I thought.

Maybe you prefer that I post them like this

PressMyButton:
I couldn't care less how many slaves he could have sold for half an umbrella. I am so much more sensible than you would ever be to glorify and gloat over white men selling off your ancestors for as worthless as an anklet. Men chained like a beast of burden while their wives served as sex slaves. That's what you glorify when Oyinbo puts an anklet on your ancestors. I will never glorify such a dehumanization when I see an umbrella shielding some wealthy slave raiders from sun and rain or a mirror carved from the finest glass around the world. Your mentality sucks.

LOL, those ivory anklets is still a mystery to the Yoruba man from a nation of poverty. You shout sex slaves because you are confident that such lie won't be reciprocated. That's because Yoruba women's ugliness is like a shield guiding them from sexual exploitation. So no matter how someone tries to lie that Yoruba women were exploited, nobody will believe that a human being or animal will think of raping such ugliness Afonja women are known for. There were a lot that happened in Igboland during the slave trade but sex slave was never part of it. Learn to lie about something that sounds reasonable.

If you know anything in history, you would have known that whites don't sell ivory to blacks, in fact it was one of the things they exploited form Africa.

Those anklets are Igbo made. Now go and cry in peace now that you have seen the difference between both of us in HD. Not everybody dressed as poor and wretched as Yoruba people before colonialisation. Even Alaafin's wives didn't dress up to the standard of being considered poor if they were in Igboland with their Chinese hairstyle
Our women still rock it till this century

heniford2:
just fucking learned some new stuff about my origin know hmm

You are welcome

PressMyButton:
If ibo ukwu was accidental, what about Arochukwu which was originally an ibibio heritage. Ibos were the last to catch up to civilization around the neighborhood.

Ndigbo are too sophisticated that what they did look extraterrestrial to you people lol.

Go through that link in the other comment and see the worth of you Yorubas. 10 for a mirror?
Cheap people
https://thenationonlineng.net/behold-an-umbrella-worth-40-forty-human-lives/

PressMyButton:
Even though the snippet you posted was not explanatory enough. However, I could deduce that about four ibo slaves equal the value of an anklet. Four ibo slaves had to be sold off to the white merchants in exchange for an anklet.. Are there any further snippets?

If four Igbo slaves equal to an anklet, then 40 Yoruba Slaves will be the equivalent.

Do you know why? Because one Igbo slave equals to 10 Yoruba Slaves.

Remember that Seriki Abass sold 40 Yorubas for one umbrella
https://thenationonlineng.net/behold-an-umbrella-worth-40-forty-human-lives/

PressMyButton:
This is a different work of art from the earlier picture. Leg anklets, wrist anklets and finger rings became a thing in Nigeria after colonisation. The fashion accessories were exchanged for some slaves commodity.
As a matter of fact, smelting pre colonial were not fashion intended but for Agriculture purposes. farm implements and later into some crude hunting tools. In contrast, bracelets, anklets came with the arrival of the whites.

Like I said, Igbo achievements look like works of Aliens to you Afonjas.
You say smelting were not fashion? Well probably to you people that don't know much about it until Awka blacksmiths introduced advanced version of it to you lots.

You might have a word with this Aro double edged sword

PressMyButton:
This is a different work of art from the earlier picture. Leg anklets, wrist anklets and finger rings became a thing in Nigeria after colonisation. The fashion accessories were exchanged for some slaves commodity.
As a matter of fact, smelting pre colonial were not fashion intended but for Agriculture purposes. farm implements and later into some crude hunting tools. In contrast, bracelets, anklets came with the arrival of the whites.

All you wrote is to you savages.
Ndigbo, Hausa and Kanuri have already mastered jewelleries before Europeans came.

Here is the picture of the account of the white British emissary "Baikie", when he attempted to buy one of those anklets the magnificent Igbo woman I posted her picture was wearing.
He noted that each cost an equivalent of whooping four able bodied slaves.

Damn Igbo women are goddesses that are adorned with wealth. Does an Afonja ugly woman deserve to wear something like that.
Can the whole of Afonja land afford to decorate one of them with such when the Alaafin does not even wear rubber.

PressMyButton as promised, here are the pictures of Igbo men rocking the ancient Igbo anklets that made you speak in tongues.

You know that poverty has tap root in Yorubaland. It has ancestors and kinsmen in Yorubaland to the extent that indigenous anklets prior to European contact looks like "American wonder" to you.

Ancient Igbo people never dressed as poor and wretched as Yorubas.

PressMyButton:
After posing for a picture, she is then led unto a waiting ship offshore as a sex slave. Your ancestors were caught up in every hook of the bait. The white men puts them on anklets to identify his own LovePeddler. You glorify slavery as a trait of inferiority complex passed down to you from birth.

They say "Jewelleries bring out the insecurity in wretched people"
The history of Yoruba poverty is now telling on your comment.

My dear Afonja, those are anklets and believe it or not, they are Igbo owned and it is not worn by Women alone (I will post that of men). You know our accomplishments look so sophisticated that you savages devise various gossips to downgrade it, in a bid to make it look as if both of us are on the same level.

There has never been anytime in history you broke people came close to Igbo wealth.
If you can say such nonsense about our anklets, only God knows what you will say about these

aribisala0:
I am not the one you were arguing with
Forget about that talk about being cornered Iam always reasonable you are the emotional needy guy.

I am educating you and I always do that politely
My point is the photographs do not say what you claim they are and I am proud of those photos

I Go and look at my posts . I said assuming without conceding they are Yoruba they could be . I see nothing wrong with those photos and indeed if they are Yoruba I would be proud.
With regard to animal skin again it is not about being reasonable but educating you about the mind enslavement that Christianity and Westernization have done to you as Islam has done in the North.

Why should I be ashamed of wearing Animal skin? That is what the wealthy of that time did
As a historian I will not lie or twist facts if they are genuine. I have no need to run from the truth. It is what it is . We are not narcissists like you lot making up a fictional collective persona

I repeat "whenever an Afonja is cornered, he starts being reasonable"
Until today do you know that
1. Your ancestors wore animal skin as recent as early 20th century?
2. Your Alaafin of Oyo lived inside grasses and palm fronds?
3. Alaafin wives barbed Chinese hairstyle?
4. Your women posed almost nude for camera?

I don't blame you people but your media that has decieved you people to the extent that pictures of your ancestors is now insult to you people just like the aerial view of your cities.

Today the same Yoruba man that tried to claim British building, that claims no history of nudity and animal skin clothing is saying that
1. Animal skin is fashionable
2. Exposed breast is ok
Let me not talk about the other funny things you said. All thanks to my brain reformatting evidences. Isn't Nairaland wonderful?
Ndi ara

Would you mind reminding me what brought all these arguments/exposure/education?

PressMyButton:
So, what's your point?.. Is anyone in the pics naked?
That's a clothing made of hides and skin. It exudes sophistication and warriors' regalia at the time. They had bows and arrows with a touch of patterned designs. Ibos were too cavemen to have had such.
It is a type commonly found among the Zulus of South Africa.
It's a privilege for ibos being in Nigeria. Our artistry and intelligence is robbing off on your folklore heritage. Unfortunately, many ibos like you from the backwaters are still much ungrateful and unrefined beyond lies and falsehoods.

LOL. No need to start lamenting. The reason why what is supposed to be your original ancestors pictures looks like mockery to you people is because you've lied so much about them that who they are is insulting to you.

You lied that they were literally wearing suits like the thread you people tried to claim British building as Alaafins Palace until we brought the picture you see in this thread.
The thread where you claimed the British styled building as Yoruba https://www.nairaland.com/6828741/throwback-photo-alaafin-oyo-diviner

As for civilisation. The only one of us that brought civilisation to each other was us Igbo(Awka) bringing technology (advanced metal smiting) to you Afonjas.
The receipt is below
https://www.nairaland.com/6765286/early-igbo-sojourners-eastern-yorubaland

As for leaving Nigeria. Both of us know that the only reason why you are against Biafra is that you know that your existence worth absolutely nothing without Ndigbo. Just like a Parasite, you Afonjas being in Nigeria is the greatest that will ever happen in your history. Enjoy it while it last

aribisala0:
Nothing wrong in wearing animal skin . At any rate animal skin cannot be every day dress .It s ceremonial and widespread among royalty in Africa all across the continent

Do not allow colonialism imbue you with false shame.

Photographs are photographs you are posting them and telling us what they mean. How can one deduce Fulani was clothing anyone from those photos?

The question is technology?

What weaving technology is used for asooke and where is that located?

Not projecting your own issues on to the innocent photo

"Whenever an Afonja is cornered, he starts being reasonable"
But you can't deceive me. If I don't know you people, I would have said that you should spread what you just posted to your brothers so they will stop being ashamed of their ancestors, stop claiming what isn't theirs and learn to promote who they are.

I guess you are shocked as hell to see the pictures I dropped here because your media has so much lied to you that many of you don't even know what your ancestors looked like.

Let me tell you one thing, no matter how you project Igbo olden days picture, no matter how it looks like, none of us will be surprised or at worst think of denying them like you Afonjas are doing in this thread. We admire our ancestors ingenuity and originality.

For example, take a look at this beautiful Igbo mama rocking the original indigenous exclusive Igbo chair and our ancient anklets

PressMyButton:
Don't be unfortunate, is the fabric in the first picture Aso oke?

The second picture is a recent picture. Across the length and breath of Nigeria, Aso ebi has become a household name. Your posting a Northern lady on an Ankara fabric is a common practice in today's Nigeria. Ibo ladies are one of the highest consumers of Aso ebi too. Don't be dumb.

And the Prince of Abeokuta was wearing animal skin when Fulani was clothing Ilorin Yorubas with Aso oke.
Do you know the problem with you people? Your media has lied so much to you people that you can no longer recognise your ancestors.
Just look at the other one above arguing whether the Ijebu people he is looking at is Ijebu or not.
Afonjas sef

PressMyButton:
Take a close look at the chair, that was a royal stool in the olden days. In Yoruba culture, you rarely see Yoruba women on a royal stool. Except for a regent which was even uncommon among the Ijebu tradition. The picture could have emanated elsewhere from colonial era of Africa.

I don't think you need to stretch this too far because it might prompt me to post the original pictures of how your monarchs (eg Prince Adeliayo of Abeokuta) dress before British social uplifting. Those are your people, stop denying them because of the way they dress. It your heritage, my dear Afonja.

You might not want to push your luck too far considering the fact that Ibo women were as much characteristically ugly till they had a mixed Gene through sexual slavery and rape by the whites slaves merchants and colonialists. No other women from other tribes were sexually dehumanized as ibo women.

This part is just pure jealousy. It is exactly like those that call tall people "dogo" or those that say "na fair you fair, you no fine"
No matter how dumb any animal is, it must recognise the angelic beauty of Igbo female goddesses. Even racists recognised Igbo women's extraordinary beauty during slave trade.

You know that because you tried to include what never happened to justify their intimidating beauty which is by adding a fallacy of imaginary rape and the other bullshit you wrote.
Ok, if we are to play by that, why is it that your own Yoruba women were not raped? Is it because their outstanding ugliness couldn't allow a white rapist to rape them? Like their ugliness scare rapists away

PressMyButton:
If Aso oke was fulani material, can you tell us what the material is called in fulfude?. Can you also explain why such fabrics are not found among the fulanis. After all, You can give what you have. If Aso oke is to the fulanis, can you show us a pix of a fulani adorned in Aso oke attire?

And as for Cannibalism.. Pls you can't change the narratives. You guys are genetically flesh eaters from prehistory.

We are genetically flesh eaters according to you but in your own custom, that cannibalism is what differentiates that commoners from the Aristocrats. Your culture brought out a new dimension of meaning for Cannibalism.

As for your Aso oké, I don't need to speak much but show you pictures because I can't be teaching you people your history and customs for free everyday on this forum.

PressMyButton:
Those are not Yoruba women. Yoruba women cannot be found unclothed like ibo women whose pictorial evidences are replete with unclothedness.
Moreover, no Yoruba woman sat on a kinda of royal stool back in the day. It is sacrilege that Yoruba women take a seat in a royal posturing with bead-like ornaments around their neck.

As expected of Afonjas at the emboldened, you have denied them immediately.
Those pictures are actually recent (colonial-wise) and are one of the fairest I can use so that some people can sleep without nightmares today.

My dear, in as much as you are an Afonja, there are things you don't need to deny/betray because you can't push it to another person. Just look at the women, their facial look and characteristic ugliness (if I may use the word) is typical of Afonjas

Owerriboi:
Ibadan the capital of yoroobaland is a glorified village and should be demolished

Obamaofusa do you know why I avoid staying at Ibadan past a night whenever I visit the slum?
Because I might get angry one day and push down people's mud houses by mistake hahahaha

Obamaofusa:
Ibadan city is more developed and has more infrastructures than the entire Igboland.

Lagos laughing at this your post like

FreeStuffsNG:
At least you agree that unclothedness has never been part of Yoruba

unclothedness and cannibalism are never part of Yoruba culture.

This speaks of how low you know Yoruba culture. I've already posted one of your pictures. You Yorubas don't actually have any indigenous cloth. What you call Aso Oké is Fulani material imposed on Ilorin Yorubas which later spread to encompass Oyo.

As for Cannibalism, you might need to explain what happened at Oyo during Endsars or the case of Owolabi, his mother and his girlfriends heart or that of your ancient Ogboni cult

FreeStuffsNG:
As regards late Chief Odutola, his estate and legacies including one of the old elitist secondary schools called Adeola Odutola College,Ijebu Ode, is still standing till date.


His castle was completed in 1939 and this was decades after the picture of the old Alafin.

https://theinfong.com/2020/02/the-majestic-castle-built-by-late-yoruba-billionaire-adeola-odutola-queen-elizabeth-reportedly-spent-a-night-in-this-edifice-photos/amp/

No need to worry yourself. Ade whatever you call him was born in 1902 and Sir Louis Ojukwu was born 1909.
So both are mates and hit their prime at the same generation but Sir Loius Ojukwu was the richest at that age, time and Generation.
I hope you get where I am driving at.

Whatever Ade... built can never match that of Sir Loius Ojukwu of the same Generation.
No need to post pictures

OyeofIkoTuN:
I don't know you but I appreciate what you do in defending our dignity from these online keyboard warriors. You have been doing us proud,I really mean us,everyone, a lot of them you dont know but you are spoken well of outside this forum...thumbs up and one love. Loud it.

Thank you

FreeStuffsNG:
Hahaha. this can never be Ijebu. And Ijebu is not Lagos.

Go to Ijebu, go and see Chief Adeola Odutola majestic building still standing. Yoruba don't have a history of walking naked and cannibalism.

LOL. It is amazing that Chief Adeola whatever has a magnificent building standing when the Alaafin of Oyo literally lived inside grasses and palm fronds after 8 decades of British contact.
Chai Afonja, softly dey lie oh

Iyaebe:
Opobo that's just a district is what this one is hyping. It's not even up to ten years that their women stopped walking around naked.Mtcheww

Like the women below?

Lol, Afonjas have loud mouth until those with their receipts like me show up.
Bring it on if you have balls

Now it is Canada. No longer Innoson and Igbo.
Chai, Afonjas can never own up to anything in their entire life.

Afonjazz make una fear God for once and say "I did this" not passing blames Shamelessly. Tụfịakwa, you people never change.

Rugaria:
Innoson only produces reconnaissance vehicles for the Army. Go and do your checks. Your PROFORCE and DICON in Kaduna are the ones that produce MRAPs like this one..

Believing Afonjas made him appear like a living fool.
Lol Putingdbutt sorry oh. Next time don't listen to Afonjas

Putindbutt:
You bunch of liars, i see you guys opening counter threads to deny innoson. Rugaria was also lying and denying the obvious. This is the reason i left the Bonny/Opobo thread because i realized you guys grow fat on lying. It's in your DNA. spits

Innoson does not even produce mRAP
So the joke is on you. You confused one hell of a drunkard.
See how believing Afonjas turned you to a funny idiot lol