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barcanista: indeed, Jonah Jang is a great man.... PDP should make him VP to Jonathan

Forget PDP and APC gragra

Thief na thief


If APC wins all PDP will join APC

Nigerian politics Is not based on ideology but money and power


I support GEJ not PDP because I believe in personality politics not party politics

zendy: And what were your fore-fathers before the White man came and created Nigeria? They were Nigerians-in-waiting? Don't be myopic. I am first an Igbo man before anything else and my first allegiance is to the Igbo nation. I can understand why the minorities in Enugu state want to go with Kogi,who wants to be a minority anyway? I think INEC should conduct a simple referendum and if the Igala want join Kogi,then so be it. I know for certain that no Igbo man would want to be part of Kogi.

Endorsed


And if they want to return back years later, we will reject them.

barcanista: What has he done for his people? Can you be specific pls?

Many things including leaving them in poverty despite the huge potential Plateau has in agro-allied industry

Oga Jona


#InvolveOurHigherInstitutionsInSpaceMissions

We can build spacecrafts

We can build satellites

We can place men on other planets



Jona

Give

Our

Higher

Institutions

A

Chance

Boko Haram last stand by fanatical followers .

It happens in every war.

omenka: Jang has done incredibly well in Plateau state and without all that media hype. All one needs to do is travel to the state and see how he has transformed it especially the road network of the city of Jos. He is greatly respected amongst the indigenous people of the state and shouldn't ruin thaat good name in the twilight of his admin.

Pls shut up

Plateau where villages are filled with mud houses due to poverty

That amount of money can transform Jos South to a big cattle ranch sufficient enough to supply meat to some part of the South while generating billions for them

That amount of money can transform Mangu LGA to a huge corn processing area generating billions for them

Plateau state has the potential of being an agro-allied industrial base of Nigeria

If there are two tribes let some portion be given to the Igalas and seceded to Kogi while the pro-Igbos remain with Enugu.


We Igbos should avoid confrontation with the Igalas who are like English speaking Cameroon that rejected we Igbos for French Cameroon only to end up pleading to return back

sexzskil: THAT IMBECI..LE CALLED BLACKTECNOLOGY MUST BE A TEENAGER, OR VERY MYOPIC AND DELUSIONAL, WORTHLESS RABBLE. NIGGAR, DO U THINK TECHNOLOGICAL WEAPONS NEED MERE TEXTBOOKS GUIDELINES WRITTEN BY THE MASTERS WHO PIONEERED THEM? THE CHINESE, INDIANS, PAKISTANS, KOREANS, JAPANESE YOU KEEP MENTIONING ALL DEVELOPED THEIR TECNOLOGY AND SOPHISTICATED MISSILES THROUGH THE INTEGRAL AIDS OF THE UNITED STATES, RUSSIA(USSR), GERMANY, FRANCE AND THE UK. WITHOUT THESE 4 NATIONS I MENTIONED ABOVE, ALL DEVELOPED NATIONS OF THE WORLD WON'T BE WHERE THEY ARE TODAY. FACT. AND FORGET ABOUT THOSE SELF-MADE YORE FABLES ABOUT BLACKS STARTING TECKNOLOGY.

NOW, COMING TO A THIRD-WORLD SLUM NAMED NIGERIA BY THE COL. MASTERS, YOU GAT TO BE KIDDING ME. UNIVERSITIES IN NIGERIA THAT PRODUCE HALF-BAKED, HUNGRY GRADUATES ANNUALLY ARE THE ONES AN INEPT, CORRUPT, CLUELESS GOVERNMENT SHOULD FUND. LIKE SERIOUSLY? U CLAIM IN ONE OF UR MEANINGLESS POSTS HERE ABOUT AN IDEA OF YOUR EMPTY MIND IN DEVELOPING AN UNPRECEDENTED JET, HELICOPTER OR WHATEVER CRAP YOU CALLED IT, I WILL LIKE TO SEE IT. YOU THOUGHT U WERE TOSSING CABERS. I BET YOUR REAL NAME MUST BE SELF-DECEPTION.

CONTINUE TO DREAM BIG THOUGH. EVERYONE SHOULD DREAM, REGARDLESS THE EMPTYNESS AND UNREALITY INVOLVED. EVEN ANIMALS TOO SHOULD DREAM BIG!

Is Yaba left still opened


This guy must be a psychiatric patient

GEJ


#InvolveOurHigherInstitutionsInWeaponsDevelopment

The President of Nigeria is named Good luck and we luckily escaped Ebola and killed Shecow.

sexzskil: DO YOU KNOW THAT U ARE THE MOST UNREALISTIC, IGNORANT DUNDERHEAD I'VE EVER ENCOUNTER IN BOTH REAL LIFE AND INTERNET? I BLAME THE MASTERS FOR ALLOWING INFERIOR MONKEYS TO USE THE INTERNET. YOU ARE A MISTAKE.

YOU HAVE BEEN STRESSING THE NEED FOR FG TO FUND HIGHER INSTITUTIONS TO START WEAPON PROJECTS AND I'VE BEEN OBSERVING UR JOBLESS ANUS JUMPING FROM THREAD TO THREAD REITERATING THIS FICTIONAL ABILITY OF NIGERIANS TO MANUFACTURE WEAPONS WHEN THE COUNTRY CANNOT BOAST OF 10HRS POWER SUPPLY. I BET U LIVING A LIFE OF NARCISSISM AND FANTASY. CONTINUE! BUT I THANK GOODNESS YOUR CLUELESS GOVERNMENT KNOWS BETTER, THAT THE BLACK RACE WHO ARE SUB-HUMANS CAN NEVER MANUFACTURE ANYTHING IN THEIR MISERABLE, VAIN EXISTENCE.


PLS DO NOT QUOTE ME, IF U DO, U ARE DOOMED!

NL has some mentally sick people

Missy89: will reply you if you explain the bolded. are you saying the reason the United states let Russia develop the weapon was because the US didnt not want to be the sole nuclear power?

The bolded wasn't clear. explain!

America kept the nuclear technology secret from Russia until some scientists betrayed the US

Missy89: You keep coming up with ridiculous claims .

China's Nuclear bombs were developed using the Soviet blueprints and has nothing to do with their "schools"
In fact , china keep stealing foreign technology to perfect their weapons systems till date and most of the advanced weapons are knock offs. Besides, after the US started having a good relationship with China, the first thing they did was a huge technology transfer to china to help build its infrastructure.

China is still way behind in Missile technology, they cant even come up with a deterrent yet.

Pakistan on the other hand developed there weapon with the help of the United states, they didn't come up with the tech by themselves.

North Korea is not worth mentioning.

Lol @ return to the kitchen. Those lines are for weak men that hides behind their gender when they don't have anything reasonable to say

You are damn funny

After the second world war, US never reveal the nuclear bomb technology to Russia until traitor scientist gave Russia the idea. The reason the US did that was to prevent one mad man using the nuclear technology to destroy the world

So coming here to give credit of Pakistan's nuclear technology to US shows you are a kitchen woman

Ok

What of India's nuclear technology. Is it the US that develop it too


Pls return back to the kitchen. This matter is far beyond your understanding.

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rusher14: A country that resists state police would be orchestrating a weapons development course in her Universities?

If wishes were horses....

Point of correction

South and MB states supported state police in the CONFAB

That is why they agreed that any state that wants state police can have it


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Missy89: Nigerians can be funny really.

The bolded has to be a joke of some sort. is it?

this doesn't have anything to do with black man mentality but reality. now lets see. assuming we want to start weapons development.
involving higher institutions isn't the first step.

The education system would need a complete overhaul to start with.
Teachers, needs to be retrained
There must be enough infrastructure to support development
There must be financial asses to keep development going
The markets must be there (u cant just create weapons and use them alone, u have to sell or it wont be profitable)

This is just to mention a few

I can start telling you how those list cant even be achieved in the the next 20 years not to talk of 40.

You cant just throw few millions into those glorified high schools and expect them to come up with a missile. apart from the fact that is wishful thinking, the quality of graduates and teachers cant support that kind of ideas.

Your ideas are what actually makes people think the black people cant do this kinds of things not mine. u seem to be living in Utopia. Are u?

Law of engineering my foot!

You are the funny one here

China India Korea Iran etc never had the best universities when they started but today are churning out world class weapons.

When India Pakistan and China developed nuclear bombs, their higher institutions were not world class

North Korea university is nothing to write home about but today have tested 2 nuclear bombs

Your comments reveal you are not an engineering-technologist

Am sure if you are the mother of Emeagwali, Innoson etc you would have killed their engineering-technological spirit.

Pls return back to the kitchen you do not understand how technology works


JONATHAN give our higher institutions an opportunity to prove themselves.


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Missy89: The bolded has got to be the best joke on the millennium!

Technology are ideas yes but without the expertise, it would only remain in your mind or the scrap of paper you wrote it on.
Do you know how many innovations that never saw the light of day? because some are deems to advance for their time or there is no money to man power to work and perfect it?. The Chinese, Koreans and Indians still rely on foreign technology to develop most of their weapons systems.
Most of the advanced weapons system made by china and India have Russia components/expertise or blueprint in them.

Nigeria is still years away to even be talking about building their own helicopter. just stick to the guns and small arms for now please.

I repeat you never studied any course related to engineering-technology

According to the law of engineering-technology,

Never say it is impossible when you have not tried many times and when you try and fail many times, just say it might be impossible today and be possible tomorrow



Your view is wrong because we are yet to try

I don't know which part of Nigeria you come from but you sound like someone who comes from a part of Nigeria that do not believe in Black man technological capacity


I repeat


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4lashyme: You are very correct. these technologies are not hidden. they are in every science textbooks and most of our good lecturers know it. they're just expensive for one person or goup of people to fund and develop alone. All it requires is a national commitment to millitary R & D. i've always seen this [BH, Ebola, western attitude, even war] coming long before now. Even when our leaders are romancing them [western leaders], i see them laughing over our shoulders like we're one big slowpoke of a country. But then, it's not too late. we have to develop real national policy on millitary development to stop the emberassment. Nigeria with her population, resources, real/potential wealth, real/potential power is too big to be buying millitary hardware in this fasion. It's a national insult and our govt should see it that way and make sure it never happens again in our history.

Godblessyou

As an engineering-technologist living in this era of people wanting to share what they know with others, Nigerians can quickly catch up with the rest of the world

As I speak to you, I have a revolutionary idea of a new Jet engine design that is completely different from any existing one today and by God's grace, I will develop it in Jesus name.

Black people must stop underestimating their minds

Pls join me to call GEJ attention to

#InvolveOurHigherInstitutions InWeaponsDevelopment

cirmuell: the same Nigeria that is in the process of building the first 'made in Africa' Satellite?

Don't mind her

She thinks everyone is technologically ignorant as she is




Pls join me to tell GEJ to


#InvolveOurHigherInstitutions InWeaponsDevelopment

#InvolveOurHigherInstitutions InWeaponsDevelopment


This is the fastest way to bypass US stranglehold

Missy89: Nigeria is more than 5 decades behind when it comes to acquiring the knowledge and capital to develop any reliable weapon system.
There are many suppliers, we can always look at other markets

Lets get real please

If the Japanese Koreans Chinese Indians were thinking like you, they won't be were they are today

Your comment exposed you as someone who knows nothing on technology

Technology is all about information and the mind.

The internet textbooks Journals etc are great source of information especially by those who have firsthand knowledge. All we need to do is to use our minds to develop ours base on fundament science engineering technological laws principles ideas etc

For your info

Biafrans developed a rocket that had a longer range compared to similar Soviet protype

All we need to do is to instruct our higher institutions to delve in such areas with the promise of money fame for the lecturers and increased GP for the students

F117A: Anyway, i don't blame them.
The US has never sold us modern military weapons in our entire national history.
Why the hell did GEJ think they would start now.?
We are being governed by jokers.

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donroxy: It is not US fault , no sane nation will put her defence machineries in the hand of another nation .....

In the present days of Insurgency/Terrorism ravaging every part of the world , we should not fold our hands and wait to be consumed before we go out there to develop and procure our defence/attack Military Gadgets !!

Especially, we need to start looking inward , we have engineers, Chemist, physicists among many scientists and raw intelligents on streets lying idle doing nothing ..... But if we sponsor this people's effort on research and development , verily, we shall have a sophisticated Military tools of our own that can withstand time .... The only one we may not have is Nuclear (Cuz they won't allow us) !!

But ........ Hmmmm , we keep waiting on Russia, China, US, India, ZA, Isreal even the security of our president, is in the hands of Foreign Nations ...... The time has come to stop protecting ourselves against ourselves , we should start protecting ourselves against the world !!!

GBAM

God bless you

I have said it and will keep saying it

Until GEJ involves our universities/polytechnics in his indigenous weapons development nations like US will keep tactically insulting us before the world

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NobleG1: Stopping arms sells to an irresponsible government is the right thing to. Nigerian government is very corrupt, st*upid and incompetent.
The Americans Obama sent to Nigeria to help in BH problem, complained that working with Nigerian officials was very difficult because of their incompetency.

The only reason you made this nonsense comment is because GEJ has not involve the universities/polytechnics in his indigenous weapons development program

When he involves the higher institutions and we start seeing weapons as advanced as US weapons, then we would know if you will make this kind of statement.

KA24DETT: Dude , you know absolutely nothing about weapon research and development .
Universities do not undertake weapon research in the US or anywhere in the world.
There are defense contractors that do that. This is how it works . The biggest defense contractor is Lockheed Martin with contracts worth about billions they get from the US government every year.
Let me tell you how it works. 1> the US army or navy request for an aircraft , they have specification like operational curtain of 50,000feet, range of 5,000 miles and payload of 70,0000lbs. The defense contractors will tell their engineers to design this aircraft and the winning design is chosen by the pentagon or any branch of the armed forces that requests for it .
No university has the money to undergo this project and it's not their job. No university in the world undergoes weapons research and development . None . Not even china or the US . Defense contractors hire engineers from universities.
Stop spreading mis information .
Both of you are arguing about things you do not have an idea how it works..

There is no law that says we must do things the way others do

If our universities/polytechnics can design fabricate and test new weapons that can be mass produced by DICON then we should involve them now that US CNN BBC are not helping matters

JuanDeDios: Rather than acknowledge the role of corruption in all this or even cite one country where universities are involved in the stages of arms production, you have decided to widen this into nonsenses about tribe, Switzerland and definitions of development.
If you ran a search around here you will find posts to convince I’m a supporter of Ihejirika. The difference is that my support for him is based on principle, whereas yours is based on ethnicity. That is why you have assumed (wrongly, but does it matter?) that I must be Yoruba since I dare call for the government to do the right thing when the name of someone from your ethnic group is mentioned. For you, there are two group in Nigeria – Biafrans and others and each group is made up of undifferentiated people who all think alike. That is why you have arrogated to yourself the spokesman for “Biafrans” on this matter since to you all Biafrans think alike and should automatically agree with you.
I don’t have time to school you on the dynamics that saved Switzerland from WWs 1 & 2 but it may interest you to know that there were countries with trained male populations which were attacked and countries with untrained populations which weren’t. Anyway, I am a longtime supporter of compulsory military training for males, something you are strangely confusing with your no good idea of tasking universities and polytechnics with arms production, err development.
I already conceded that designs can come out of universities – since anybody can come up with a design and if it’s good the relevant industries will adopt it. Why don’t you cite examples of universities that are involved in arms “development”?
People like you, people who can’t beyond parochial interests, are the real problems of society – in Nigeria tribal considerations won’t let them condemn corruption once their kinsman is involved and if you give them Biafra they won’t know what do with it since their life course is about agitating for Biafra.
At least, you now agree that Dicon has a role – that’s progress. For now, Nigeria needs to stop whining about America not giving them weapons (as if the AK-47s they have been using forever came from America) and IMPORT weapons from Eastern Europe, Asia or wherever to defeat Boko Haram. You have a war to fight – just stop hankering after weapons you never had, stop stealing and get the job done. After that draw up a plan that should ensure limited self-sufficiency in armament within the next 5 to 10 years by repositioning Dicon. Dicon can take good designs from wherever they come – universities, Ariaria market, Black Technology’s laptop, anywhere, as long as it’s good. Private sector participation can be encouraged but not in today’s Nigeria for so many reasons – unless we can get our act together.
Thank you.

Because his name brings good lucks to him.

Ebola could not get us despite the evil intention of the Liberia guy

Shekau died after years of madness

Light is constant of recent


Guy vote GEJ because his name brings good lucks to Nigeria

MrKnowitall: I wouldnt put my enemy in that piece of junk you Negros call APC. They ripped the body off a ford F-250 and

welded some sheet metal to it and you call that APC? No wonder Nigerian soldiers are afraid to fight the Boko boys.

Jonathan is an imbeccle for even allowing such inferior and dangerous vehicle to make it into active service.

Just pathetic, utterly pathetic.

There are two kinds of living things on NL= Humans and Goats

Which one are you

Yes they are Christians

JuanDeDios: Aren't you being a bit presumptuous by presenting yourself as anyone's spokesman on this matter?

Anyway, if your argument is gun liberalisation like they have in America, that's a different subject. To be sure, I don't support gun liberalisation, but I recognise that it has its merits and, like I said, it's a different subject. What I was arguing against is the workability or arming abi tasking universities to go into arms production in the middle of a war. I also argued that even in peace times arms are produced by industries, not universities. When South Africa was faced by sanctions it looked inwards and began to reverse engineer weapons technology. Today, they're a respectable arms-producing country. No, not through their universities. Through industries. We've tried things here by establishing Dicon - for where?

I agree with you that corruption requires a systematic approach. But Nigeria has got to a stage where anything you throw at corruption they find a way to defeat it - because the money they steal is way too much for anything to stand in their way. What you need is a multi-faceted approach. You can't fight corruption when impunity reigns. Never. Once there is no punishment for crime whatever system you put in place would be messed up. Your HOD will simply impose his will on the three lecturers and have them award marks to his okpeke and he will get away with it. How many years did they give Bernie Madoff for scamming would-be investors, 90? That's what I'm talking about. Until we starting doing that sort of thing we're not serious and we won't get anywhere - whether you allocate funds to Dicon or to universities, all of which are forced to run on diesel.

First and foremost you are mixing up development and mass production

Development of weapons means design , fabrication and testing of new weapons or modification of old weapons.

Once a newly developed weapon is approved , it will then be mass produce at DICON

You do not leave the fate of over 140million people in the hands of DICON when there are University/Polytechnic students option you can simultaneously utilized alongside DICON

Do you know why Hitler could not invade Switzerland even when Swiss do not have a standing army.?

Because every male swiss receives military training and given a gun to keep at home.

This is the major reason why Hitler who was bold to invade Russia was scared to invade Switzerland.


If you were Swiss leader in the days when Swiss were contemplating it, you would have opposed it and centuries later , Hitler would have invaded Switzerland

The problem with you is that you are fearful and I understand considering the part of the country you come from.


My friend

For now Nigeria needs to quickly build up her defense within 5years and that can be quickly achieved when we involve our universities and polytechnics in weapons development as DICON staff play their role.

We do not have time on our side now that US has started acting funny.

Pls stoppppppp being fearful.

If it worked in swiss and Northern Europe it can work in Nigeria this time in the area of weapons development.

JuanDeDios: Now, what I believe you are saying is that in the middle of a war, the way out is the universities - let them start teaching weapons technology (with professors and lecturers drawn from Onitsha market) building weapons labs (which you believe can be fully functional and produce weapons to fight Boko Haram just now just now), while we ignore Dicon which already has some residual facilities in place! You're a genius.

You, sir, are the one being emotional!

Now, to your question - I'm assuming you don't really know the answer already even though it's the subject of this thread.
Dicon is not working because of .... corruption. It's not working because when billions are budgeted they simply disappear. That is the issue Jonathan and some of you like to hide your heads in sand about. We have been hearing of the budgeted billions followed by an ill-equipped army. If Jonathan was competent he would have probed that -maybe it's Ihejrika, maybe it's not, he would have found out. So you think there is no viral corruption in Nigeria just as there was no WMD in Iraq? You people are not serious abeg.

There is no society where corruption is not found.
The fact is, in some societies systems were created to curtail the effect of corruption I.e make the effect of corruption insignificant
The problem with people like you is that you attack corruption headlong instead of flanking or encircling corruption
This is the same mistake Sanusi made and failed unlike his predecessor Soludo
Example of how some universities outflanked or encircled corruption instead of attacking it directly
At least 3 lecturers handle a course and the scores divided amongst them. This prevents a scenario where one lecture has absolute power to determine the fate of a student in a course.

In America, the threat of coup, autocracy etc is one major reason the US has two major armed forces(Marines and Army) under two different command chains answerable to the president through the defense secretary. It is also the major reason the americans are allowed to carry guns in order to defend their liberty against coups or sit tight presidency






In summary instead of wasting time searching for those who smartly siphoned money meant for DICON weapons development exposing Nigeria to threat of internal or foreign invasion, it is safe fast and certain we allow our bright students/lecturers engage in weapons related projects to secure our independence.


If you insist on your idea no problem but let it be applied when Odua Arewa or whatever new nation you will find yourself.

But as for me and other Biafrans, this is the idea we will uphold. Which is why we are advicing GEJ to take our path and prevent another colonialism.

JuanDeDios: No, I will not project it. What you are proposing is not workable. Even if it were, there would be arms all over the place. Option A will guarantee success, not B. Ever heard of comparative advantage? Efficiency comes with specialisation. You don't need everyone trying to make weapons to be able to make weapons. You need people researching other things too - like, remember, energy and the likes. Without electricity your idea is dead on arrival.

Tell me what country's universities are producing arms. Tell me one major arms producer that has strong links with a university.

Yes, I conceded in my post that it is okay for a university to design weapons, but not the manner you are proposing. Yes, Nigeria should have become a regional power long ago - corruption is what stands in the way. Say no corruption if you love independence and want to end neo-colonialism.

Answer this question Mr wise guy

If DICON step is the best step, why are we still importing advance weapons even to the point of running to China who was at the same level with us in 1960 after US ignored our cries for weapons

Wait until US invades Nigeria sucks us dry like Iraq under the guise of fighting corruption just as they accused Sadam of weapons of mass destruction they never found after wasting Iraqis


Think logically not emotionally

Nigeria at this time needs to rebuild her military after which the universities can channel their resources to other important things

JuanDeDios: I see you're not bothered about proliferation. That's why you want to admit whole generations of unvetted young people into arms manufacturing. In the countries you mentioned earlier arms are not produced at colleges. The famous gun designers we know such as Kalashnikov and the Israeli Uzzi major were not undergraduates. They're mosly military or military-allied people. That is why Dicon is a good idea. Not that there's anything wrong with a design coming out of a university but suggesting that schools produce arms is a bad idea.

Do you know the meaning of the word DEVELOP in terms of weapons.

To develop a weapon is different from mass production

To develop a weapon means to design and fabricate a copy of a new/innovated weapon or existing weapon.

Stop creating unnecessary fear that do not exist

US actions is a clear message that its time to join India and China in becoming a truly independent regional power.


May I ask you

Which step will guarantee success

A) few hundreds of brain behind weapon development in DICON
B) Many thousands of brain behind weapon development in the Universities/Polytechnics.

Pls do not stir up my anger against

If you like being bully some of us do not like being bully.

Now project this idea if you truly love Black man independence from colonialism or neo_colonialism.