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[quote author=waledeji post=56384511][/quote]Whether as VP or substantial President, the better south will do better never to support a Yoruba candidacy to ASO rock in whatever capacity.

The reoccurring formula in Nigerian Politics is that there must be a northerner in the equation (preferably a hausa fulani muslim) either as President or Vice President.

The Yorubas knowing that they can never ever smell power again after Obasanjo have keyed into this equation and were and are still ready to play second fiddle to the north in order to have a stake at the centre.

The Yoruba preferred political stratagem is a North - SW ticket and they have gotten it with Obasanjo and now Osinbanjo.

They are now appealing to the SS/SE for support to continue this arrangement in 2019 with a possible Osinbanjo Presidency with a northern VP.

This arrangement will be no different than the disastrous Buhari -Osinbanjo presidency to both the SS and SE.

Our best bet is to settle for the VP position and support a substantive northern Presidency.

At least with this arrangement either the SS or SE is guaranteed a foot into Aso Rock.

If the Yorubas are pained about this just simply remind them of their backstabbing of a fellow southern President in the last election.

We dey learn treachery work for una hand now since that is all una sabi and by 2019 it will be another Ab0ki with either a SS or SE as deputy

Whether as VP or substantial President, the better south will do better never to support a Yoruba candidacy to ASO rock in whatever capacity.

The reoccurring formula in Nigerian Politics is that there must be a northerner in the equation (preferably a hausa fulani muslim) either as President or Vice President.

The Yorubas knowing that they can never ever smell power again after Obasanjo have keyed into this equation and were and are still ready to play second fiddle to the north in order to have a stake at the centre.

The Yoruba preferred political stratagem is a North - SW ticket and they have gotten it with Obasanjo and now Osinbanjo.

They are now appealing to the SS/SE for support to continue this arrangement in 2019 with a possible Osinbanjo Presidency with a northern VP.

This arrangement will be no different than the disastrous Buhari -Osinbanjo presidency to both the SS and SE.

Our best bet is to settle for the VP position and support a substantive northern Presidency.

At least with this arrangement either the SS or SE is guaranteed a foot into Aso Rock.

If the Yorubas are pained about this just simply remind them of their backstabbing of a fellow southern President in the last election.

We dey learn treachery work for una hand now since that is all una sabi and by 2019 it will be another Ab0ki with either a SS or SE as deputy

ekwii:
You are very correct, Igbos should not be emotional when it comes to politics. Think of furthering your own ideology than trying to get stupid revenge.
I will personally vote for Osinbajo than any Aboki man whatsoever, except Atiku

dont be a nitwit

A yoruba presidency will be complimented by a northern VP and under osinbanjo it will not be any different than what you are witnessing with a buhari osinbanjo presidency.

the only way you will see a SS or SE person in power is with a coalition with the same north. either as substantive president or vice president.

A yoruba presidency will relegate the SS and SE to the foreground

ProWalker:
Who is holding you, this is democracy, it's a number game, not for emotional cry babies.

and you think the boko north will settle for a fake pastor as their president?

or you think the middle belt christians osinbanjo refused to comment on their plight in the hands of the fulani lunatics will vote osinbanjo?

as for the ss/se forget us.

then that brings us to the sw. do you even think yoruba muslims will vote a yoruba christian pastor?

apart from osinbanjos redeem churh members and maybe some christian yorubas in the sw (apart from Ondo and Ekiti) no body will vote that man servant

if osinbanjo dares contest 2019 elections he will lose by a staggering margin

nku5:
If Osinbajo approaches the SE/SS leaders and pledges in writing that he will implement the report of the National Conference Report to restructure Nigeria I would personally vote and campaign for him

osinbanjo presidency will be the weakest and lamest duck presidency ever

boko haram under GEJ will look like boys scout when compared to that weakling

this is the reason i will never support osinbanjo plus the corrupt tinubu angle

ProWalker:
If this mindset espoused by the OP is the average Igbo mindset, then I'm sorry to say that Igbos have absolutely nothing to do with politics, they are simply very BAD at politics.
They are simply too damned emotional to be good politicians.

allow me to vote my ab0ki

when you were all foaming rabid in the mouth over chanji and sai baba we complain?

PapaBrowne:
Osibanjo has shown himself to be as detribalised as it gets. Osibanjo has shown that he would treat the SS & SE favorably.

Funnily, the SS & SE are bigger supporters of OSIBANJO than the SW.

you lie

nedu666:
u think the north will vote for anyone but a northern after loosing power to osinbanjo. dat time u will know why boko has not been defeated is not because thay cant b defeated but they are reserving it for osinbanjo on a larger scale

and this is what tinubu refuses to process in his gbana head

i will be voting an ab0ki in 2019

RassKass:
Same way it's too early to deny your logic and write up is filled with ignorance and fantasy! Happy now!

you just cant hide your afomja?

pray tell, why u take the matter for head?

RassKass:
Too bad for you I'm not yoruba and I don't care about their cause but the fact of the matter remains that your write up is senseless! If you are pained buy a hanky and do the needful!

too early to deny your yoruba roots

When he is doing your bidding to wreck havoc accross the land and to start a civil war to lead to your agenda of nigeria balkanization

RassKass:
This one matter don pass be careful? Get well soon blos!

worry for your yoruba nation

divinehand2003:
Pls OP, HOPE THIS IS NOT ANOTHER CASE OF SCHIZOPHRENIA!!!!
PLS OP WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER AND SPEAK BLESSINGS AND GOOD HEALTH TO YOUR ONE AND ONLY PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT.
SAI BABA.

where is buhari today?

ettybaba:
Senseless . To say the least .

do you need us now in the better south to help you from getting another disgrace from the north?

jfking2005:
I am only here to understand the motives behind this and what is the antidote to his problem .
This guy need to grow up and understand that he need to take charge of his own life and move on in life.
Fighting what he has no control over is a way of complicating his goals in life.
Focus on your mission in life.

not everyone is a wavering reed in the wind like you yorubas

Osinbanjo presidency will lead to Nigeria;s balkanization

nedu666:
el rugai as vp when he is not bad. u need a gentle man like sambo not a rabble fanatic like el rufai. but then we know that against a nothern candidate his chance is zero because of d shame of being fooled twice by yorubas. as for se/ss revenge is a bitch best served cold

Never underestimate Tinubus foolishness and greed.

Tinubu had no qualms resurrecting that dying tyrannosaurs and fooling his gullible yorubas to support a die hard boko and despot in order to get a shot at the presidency.


I foresee Tinubu going for El Rufai as Osinbanjo VP IN 2019

Balkan:
As coordinator or what?

As Vulture President

TheFreeOne:
Do not wish for another "Umaru Umaru are you dead" scenario.

The country shouldn't experience such schisms now lest it results in dire consequences.

We should not wish for a repeat of yaradua because it now involves yoruba interest?

rhymaster:
Frustration of Igbos is driving them mad! Hahahha...conjuring up all madness will not give you presidency or biafura! Ibos are the worst losers on earth!

Vulture President Osinbanjo is now the cordinating head of the presidency with no single executive powers

After betraying the entire south for a ceremonial VP position which they hoped will translate to that of Vulture Presidency in waiting, the Yorubas will soon start come knocking for southern solidarity to ensure that Osinabnjo assumes full presidential powers after the Old Soja finally joins his ancestors.

This is not June 12 but Afonja 10.0 Reloaded!

The Better South should just kick back and enjoy the show and see how yoruba collective disgrace is handed once again to them by the north for their serial treachery.

I should remind you all that the same Yorubas were at the forefront clamoring for war in the Niger DELTA early in the Buhari presidency over oil.

i will remind my Igbo brothers that Yorubas have been the loudest supporters for the violent clampdown on IPOB protesters in the SE.

The better south should never involve themselves in this domestic dispute between master and slave.

Let us see how quick YORUBAS will start Odua Secession movement after the north stages a coup to remove Osinbanjo

Buhari is finally gone for good and good riddance to bad rubbish.

Osinbanjo, may eventually be confirmed President by the Senate as events unfold and Tinubu may want to exploit federal might to push his stooge into Aso Rock come 2019. Tinubu will settle for characters like El Rufai to be VP to Osinbanjo in order to sway boko votes up north to Osinbanjo presidency.

That aside will the SS/SE ignore this golden opportunity to pour sand-sand inside Yoruba and Tinubus garri just as they did in 2015 with Buhari chanji nonsense?

If you ask me, I will rather vote Shekau than that fake pastor.

Let us teach Yorubas their own treachery and repay them in their own coin come 2019.

Jabioro:
I have no record or knows nothing about above purported history, but all indication show that the writer is looking for sympathy within the Muslim world, blaming another world for her self inflicted injuries..

Ask the taqiyya spewing idiot if it was the Pope that sponsored Uthman dan Fodio to jihad.

For the current leader of Boko Haram, Abubaka Shekau, as well as for others in the movement, Usman dan Fodio and his 1804-1808 jihad is the model to be followed. Although radically different in many ways, Boko Haram is part of the long shadow of Usman dan Fodio and the creation of the Sokoto Caliphate, the largest state in West Africa in the nineteenth century.

The background to the jihad was a crisis in the Hausa states and Islamic leaders’ resort to Islam to reform society. During the eighteenth century, Hausa society witnessed conflicts between one state and another, between Muslims and non-Muslims, between rich and poor. The states were heterogeneous and highly developed with established kingships, talented Islamic scholars and jurists. Succession disputes were endemic while ambition for political domination was common. Gofir state in the northwest emerged as a dominant power, but not without costly and ruthless wars. Merchants and kings grew wealthy, and their ostentatious living displeased the poor and devout Muslims. Methods of wealth accumulation involved corruption and unjust treatment of the poor. Taxes and levies could be excessive, demand for free labor ruinous, enslavement was common and conscription for military service was indiscriminate. The practice of Islam was not always strict: many were Muslims only in name, traditional religion was synthesized with Islam in a way that displeased devout preachers and only a small minority committed itself to spreading the religion”. (1)

Dan Fodio (1754-1817) was a Peul (plu. Fulani) and thus a member of a minority within the largely Hausa area. However, the Fulani are found throughout West Africa. Prior to 1800, there had been a gradual influx of Fulani into northern Nigeria, a migration which had spread over several centuries and which involved people who were ethnically and linguistically distinct from the Hausa. During the earlier migratory phases, they were largely pastoral herdsmen but increasingly they settled in Hausa towns.

As an educated Peul, dan Fodio felt excluded from political power as did other Fulani. The jihad and the distribution of power that followed led to the Sokoto Caliphate − a sort of unified theocracy. Old Hausa dynasties were replaced by new local leaders, mainly Fulani emirs. The caliphate was headed by a sultan, based in Sokoto, while local emirates were governed by an emir. The appointment of each emir had to be ratified by the sultan. Thus was created a Fulani-Hausa political area with elements still in place today.

Dan Fodio, often referred to as Shehu, was an educated preacher who gathered around him students who became the core of his jihad army. Dan Fodio knew the history of Islam and wanted to recreate the Muslim community of the time of the first four Caliphs, thought of as the ‘Golden Age of Islam’. He thus broke down the existing Hausa state system of some 15 separate states into a loosely organized Fulani-Hausa confederation of some 30 emirates with loyalty beyond the clan and the traditional ruler within the embrace of a common religion.

Two features tended to characterize the emirate system. First, there was virtually no distinction between religious and political authority. The emir possessed both. Second, politics was conducted in an essentially despotic fashion. The common man was subservient to the emir and was dependent on his benevolence. The Fulani jihad fell short of establishing the just Islamic theocracy it had purported to create. Many saw the jihad as a road to power rather than to the purity of religious practice.

Boko Haram has kept the use of flags and flag bearers from Dan Fodio’s jihad as well as the arbitrary killing and indiscriminate marauding.

[img]http://awcungeneva.files./2015/02/danfodio.jpg[/img]

Uthman Dan Fodio was a jihadist equally as brutal as Shekau of Boko Haram if not more brutal since he was able by means of a religious war to propel his minority Fulani people as rulers of the newly established Islamic fundamentalist State of Northern Nigeria.

Uthman utilized treachery from the useful idiot class of the Hausa elite desperate for power, brute violence from his fulani ilk burdened by heavy taxation from the Hausa kingdom and the wretched poverty class of the Hausa kingdom who gave him their full support. He preached purity and a pious just society for all under the banner of islam only for him to seize power for himself and his fulani ilk.

The main reoccurring decimal between Shekau and Dan Fodio is that they both desired to establish an Islamic State and had no qualms using violence means to arrive at their islamic utopia.

The very fabric of today's northern Nigeria with the emirate system owes a lot to Uthman dan Fodio.

Boko Haram are just bent on relieving and carrying on from where Dan Fodio stopped.

So Buhari was right to state that "a war against boko haram is a fight against the north"

This is one of the boko sympathizers

FriendNG:
Alright since the Mumu Alade has finished searching Google to make Sunusi father an Amir but to know avail. He resorted to show of shame. Let me ignore him. At least I frustrated him with the facts.

Go and recite your koran and stop disgracing yourself here.

Sanusi's official name is Muhammadu Sanusi II.

His father was the Amir of Kano until he was dethroned in 1963 and his step brother then an ambassador to Senegal was turbaned as Amir of Kano.

Google Mummadu Sanus I and Muhammadu Sanusi II

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FriendNG:
Haha haha. Sunusi father was not the Amir of Kano Mr. I know all. It was Sunusi grandfather not his father.

His father was never an emir for once in his life.

Sunusi become the emir in the expense of 30 male children of the Late Emir Ado Bayero. He was not the child of an emir talkless of crown Prince.

So shutup when you have no facts before hand.




You Alades are funny. Who brought about the issue of Sunusi as CBN governor? Who sack him? You Alades should channel your wailing to him 4 not making Sunusi to account 4 his actions but you're here blaming Hausa or Yoruba 4 jonathief failure. Hypocrite.

One of the main reasons why Lugard with just 800 troops and two machine guns could overrun the entire northern caliphate was because the northern elite invited him to come and settle their constant bickering.

There was always never anyone that was good to be Amir in the eyes of the northern elite. It was either he isn't from the right family descendant or he isn't a pious muslim or is too lax towards re-starting jihad.

The likes of Kwankwaso told the late Ado Bayero that he will balkanize the Kano emirate (the largest in Northern Nigeria) and from there create several emirates within Kano if Ado Bayero does not stop his support for GEJ.

Abacha not only sacked Sultan Dasuki but forced him to flee out of the country.

Your emirates are all a joke as they are nothing but political appointee stools.

If una like carry Sanusi to the Mosque on Friday and behead him that one nah una cup of tea

FriendNG:
That's the difference between him and his predecessor. His predecessor built a royalty that he can summon a president not to talk of a state governor.

His predecessor speak to politician in private and later the palace staff will call it a greeting. That so so governor come to pay homage to the king.

But reverse is the case when you stand on the podium to belittle your boss (Governor)

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The British colonial rule introduced laws that made the ascension of any Amir or even the Sultan to the throne to be subject to the approval of the then Governor-General. The constitution at independence which was drafted by the British also made the Sultanate and Emirates to be under the control of elected civilian administrators.

When we told you goats that the office of Amir of Kano is no different than a local government care taker committee chairman at the sole discretion of the governor una been dey doubt.

Come to the south and see real rulers who governors have no say in their enthronement.

FriendNG:
Shataap mumu. Who made him a crown Prince? If you want to lie, lie with class. Kano Emirates don't have crown Prince. If there should be any crown prince then it should be one of the sons of the Late Emir not Sunusi.

All blame should go to the ineffectual buffoon Jonathan who couldn't do anything about the allegations. So Jonathan refuses touch Sunusi because of wat Yoruba or Hausa said?

Do you think all of us are "Alade" like you.

You must be one of those Nigeriens claiming Nigeria

Sanusi's father was the Amir of Kano before he was removed and replaced by the late Ado Bayero!

Emir Muahmmadu was the Emir of Kano from 1954-1963. He was the eldest son of Emir Abdullahi Bayero. He was a powerful Emir that had substantial influence in the colonial Northern Nigeria. He hosted the Queen Elizabeth II when she visited Kano in 1956. The power tussle between him and his distant cousin Ahmadu Bello the Sardauna of Sokoto is believed to have resulted in his dethronement and confinement in Azare 1963.

Muhammadu Sanusi is the father of the current Amir Sanusi born to the large family of Abdullahi Bayero, Emir of Kano, among his brothers was future and now late Emir, Ado Bayero.

The fact that you were able to bring Jonathan into your silly rants tells a lot about how frustrated you almajiri zombies have it these days.

May Jonthan plague you to the point you join Boko suicide squad

Bibi294:
No weapon fashioned against our president shall prosper...

Buhari is "technically" dead

RIP sweet prince of fulani militia