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It's bad economic and social polices. The bad social policies include underfunded education and insecurity. There's cultural issues like almajiris and no family planning. The economic issues that keep them hurt productivity like low access to credit and lack of skilled labor. Lastly they're not exploiting natural mineral resources and there's not much secondary production going on.

ednut1:
its a trap. They will be rounded up after corona

I'd believe it were anyone but them. They offered illegal immigrants healthcare already. This is them acting in character.

CoronaVirusPro:
State is fvcking rich

Much expected...

Texas should be able to follow suite.

Why should illegal immigrants be given stimulus checks? California is rewarding law breakers. Lol just because the state is rich doesn't mean it spend money foolishly. Lol would you want Nigeria to pay illegal aliens from Niger Republic and Benin just because money is available?

gidgiddy:
In some wars, you dont get all the time in the world for preparation. Ojukwu declared Biafra on May 30th, by July 6th, Nigeria had invaded Biafra. 6 weeks to prepare for war is not a long time

He was sourcing for weapons unsuccessfully in 1966.

In mid August 1966, Ojukwu sent two representatives from the Eastern Region on a clandestine visit to Israel in a bid to purchase military hard-ware.

FACE:
The problem with revisionists is that they don't know when they move to fairy tale zone. So on what basis would Aminu Kano make arms request to Israel in a military government headed by Gowon when he wasn't a member of the SMC? I don't even know why I bother with some of you guys.

He did chair arms procurement committee. You guys need to read more instead of making lazy retorts. Isreal sold arms to Nigeria during the war it's not a secret. Israel sold $500,000 worth military equipment according to US source. I provided the authors sources because I know you didnt attempt to read before responding.

Aminu Kano, serving as minister of communications and chair of the FMG’s arms procurement committee, asked that Israel provide ‘large quantities’ of 7.62 calibre ammunition, 81 mm mortars and ordnance, 75 mm rockets and 250 pound bombs. He urged that the items be transferred by
air, with payment to be made in any form that Israel demanded.

Zach Levey cited: Ministry of External Affairs (Nigeria) to Embassy in Lagos, 11 April 1967, ISA 4217/1.

Israeli military sales to the Lagos government during the civil war reached $500,000.

Zach Levey cited: Embassy in Tel Aviv to Department of State, 11 April 1970, National Archive and Records Administration (NAII), Record Group (RG) 59, Subject Numeric File (SNF), DEF 19, Israel-Africa.

ItooWorWor:
So say's the Congo Jew

You know the article did briefly explain the igbo Jewish lineage belief. This has been a popular belief since the 18th century. I might make a thread on later on.

FACE:
Even your own timeline shows that all arms sales to Nigeria by Israel were before the Nigeria-Biafra war and they switched their empathy to Biafra when the war started.

Lol you guys are a funny bunch. You cant bother scrolling down before making erroneous comments.

April 1968 Nigeria requested Isreal sell arms to Nigeria. Aminu Kano asked that Israel provide 'large quantities' of 7.62 calibre ammunition, 81 mm mortars and ordnance, 75 mm rockets and 250 pound bombs. He urged that the items be transferred by air, with payment to be made in any form that Israel demanded. Israel agreed supplying the arms.

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SouthEastFacts:
Criminals have turned SW to a war zone and our sophisticated brothers are more concerned about Biafra.

All the arms Israel supplied to Nigeria were ordered before the war.

Biafran Air Force were led by Israelis

Lol you're sensitive and ignorant dude. The arms sales took place in 1968 during the war. Israel is $500,000 worth of weapons to Nigeria during the war.

April 1968 Nigeria requested Isreal sell arms to Nigeria. Aminu Kano asked that Israel provide 'large quantities' of 7.62 calibre ammunition, 81 mm mortars and ordnance, 75 mm rockets and 250 pound bombs. He urged that the items be transferred by air, with payment to be made in any form that Israel demanded. Israel agreed supplying the arms.

sammyj:
Israelis are business men that just want to make profit. Why produce weapons when you can sell it to mumus that want to use it

Lol they weren't very shrewd during the war. The funny thing is their government hasnt changed much now that I thinking about it. Israel has been caught selling military technology they got from US to China. With friends like them who needs enemies.

Secret U.S. missile and electro-optics technology was transferred to China recently by Israel, prompting anger from the U.S. and causing a senior Israeli defense official to resign.

The head of defense exports for the Israeli Defense Ministry resigned after a U.S. investigation concluded that technology, including a miniature refrigeration system manufactured by Ricor and used for missiles and in electro-optic equipment, was sent to China, according to the Israeli newspaper Maariv.

Source: https://www.military.com/defensetech/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china

35824L:
Greedy iboes. Even after bribing those countries with the intention of recouping all of it after subjugating the south south people and stealing their oil resources, they still lost the war shamefully. Later they will come here to beat their dry chests that they fought the war alone. Biafrogs.

Biafra didnt have much to bribe with. Portugal for example supported Biafra because Nigeria funded anti colonialism efforts of the African union. They in turn funded their own secessionist. French support hinged on oil and getting more leverage in west Africa. The rest seem more ideological or power plays. Nobody fought alone the Nigerian side simply had more support than Biafra.

Final bump

Lol all talk not action. You guys cant even elect a representative who agrees with these issues. How is the north to blame for this?

The blockade killed Biafras ability to sell their oil and trade effectively during the war. Biafra could've prolonged their loss and saved more lives with effective naval power. In a war of attrition Biafra would have capitulated because nigeria had more money, bodies, stronger allies and superior industrial capacity. Nigeria allies included both the USSR snd Britian. Its doubtful the United states would allow Nigeria to fall into communist spear in cold war. This partly explains their neutrality.

Ojukwu refused to allow a land corridor because he feared the Nigerian government would poison the population. His actions thus exacerbated the problem. Gowon would not have poison them due to international pressure. Ojukwu opted for air lifted material from Sao Tome with Portuguese support. The supplies came to Portharcourt then Uli village in Owerri. The Nigerian airforce was never able to stop opperations from the Uli airstrip due their ineffectiveness.

When Nigerian troops recaptured oil fields it sealed Biafra's fates effectively. There's no way a starving and financially vulnerable state could win a war of attrition. The Nigerian military would just send in more troops or hire more mercenaries.

sources:

• Naval Military Operations in Bonny during
the Nigerian Civil War 1967-1970

By Chukwuma C. C. Osakwe, Lawrence Okechukwu Udeagbala

• Through the Imperial Lens: The Role of Portugal in the Nigeria-Biafra War.

By: Omaka, Arua Oko. 

• São Tomé and the Biafran War (1967-1970).

By: Seibert, Gerhard.

whirlwind7:
See that quote of yours in bold?
I'm ready to place a bet on that, sir.

GMB is too dumb and too religious to see anything good in marijuana.

Lol he seems pretty delusional. The head of tge National Drug Law Enforcement Agency rebuked The ondo governor for suggesting marijuana be legalized. Buhari himself didn't comment support at any point in his presidency.

SciLab:
Blue3K stop hiding my comment. I will repeat again and again.

Since we now have this information. We buharideens must now advice the Ibos to hate Isreal and love we anti-Biafran yoruba muslims, abokiis and buharideens.

*If you hide this comment again, I will splatter this message here a hundred times.*

Lol Im not a mod so I cant hide your comment. Your free to your dumb opinions and please feel free to bump thread. The SE has been infatuated with Israel forever. Israel selling weapons to Nigeria during the war wont change. It was good business so it's understandable for you.

tatatar:
Nothing like being sympathetic to their plight.Israel being the typical jews whom are dishonorable and devious just wanted to profit from both sides.
The Israeli worshippers don't know this,that Israel supplied the weapons to FG to kill them.Their fellow jewish brothers killed them

Lol I disagree a little bit. Some in the Israeli government were sympathetic to them. They also went so far as too provide medical and financial assistance fo them knowing they were likely not to be reimbursed. The Israeli public did feel sympathy for them which did twist their arms a bit.

The fact is realpolitik trumps sentimentalism. That's why the Soviets and UK sided against the Biafrans. The Soviets funded rebels in Angola but couldn't careless about Biafra. The rebel state could hardly source weapons, had limited industrial capacity and starvation blockade was going work.

Donelli:
A link to the article, please.

It's a scholarly article hidden behind a paywall. Access it by going to your local university.

Ardar:
Another Igbo thread by an afonja

Lol what a vain self absorbed clown. This is simply Nigeria history.

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Only the Ondo governor advocates for Medicare marijuana. If Nigeria actually want it they should bother their representatives at NASS to change the laws. The only thing to worry about is a probable veto from Buhari.

After reading all this it makes a few things clear to me. The Biafran military was pretty unprepared for war. They had a few powers supplying them but were going to lose the war of attrition. The successionist even lost their major bargaining chip after the Nigeria retook the oil fields.

I'll probably do more civil war topics since they're pretty interesting. The next one might be about Portugal role in the war. Who knows if it be half as interesting as this. The one after that will be about why Nigeria's starvation blockade was so affective.

Honestly I wish I could post the whole article. Israel's behavior is pretty interesting. They pretty much tried to have their cake and eat. They probably didnt make much cash off Biafra but they hardly missed an opportunity to sell arms to Nigeria. These events show how difficult statecraft is when you dont have coherent policy objectives.

It's crazy Israel sold Nigeria half million dollars in arms. I honestly wonder if Ojukwu knew this while he was demanding support from them. They were basically hedging their bets. Lol how can anyone say the civil war shouldn't be taught in school.

Israel wanted to maintain relations with The Federal Republic of Nigeria for arms exports. It also supported Biafra because they sympathized with their plight because of moralistic beliefs and memories of the holocaust. This created a contradictory policy where they supported both sides of the conflict with arms. The policy eventually led to bad relations with Nigeria after the war in 1973.

Timeline of events:

In October 1963, Israel delivered to Nigeria several mortars from SoltamLtd., an Israeli company that manufactured bothcivilian goods and military hardware. The Israeli defense ministry hoped they would buy more but Nigeria turned to Finland.

In mid January 1966 Ram Nirgad, who became Israel's ambassador in Lagos in

In mid April 1966, an Israeli ship unloaded thirty tons of 81 mm and 82 mm mortar rounds that the Nigerian government had ordered from Soltam Ltd.

In mid August 1966, Ojukwu sent two representatives from the Eastern Region on a clandestine visit to Israel in a bid to purchase military hardware. Israel sold them none but offered to introduce them to reliable arms merchants abroad.

In November 1966, the Mossad (Israel's foreign intelligence agency) tried unsuccessfully to recruit a weapons dealer in western Europe willing to fly arms to Nigeria's Eastern Region. 

Ojukwu declares Biafra independent May 30th 1967 in Enugu.

July 6th 1967 Nigerian civil war breaks out

April 1968 Nigeria requested Isreal sell arms to Nigeria. Aminu Kano asked that Israel provide 'large quantities' of 7.62 calibre ammunition, 81 mm mortars and ordnance, 75 mm rockets and 250 pound bombs. He urged that the items be transferred by air, with payment to be made in any form that Israel demanded. Israel agreed supplying the arms.

On 17 and 22 July 1968, the Knesset conducted lengthy debates on both the government's diplomatic stance and moral responsibility regarding the 'prevention of genocide'.

July 1968, Dr. Sebastian Okechukwo Mezu, a Biafran representative, approached the Israeli embassy in Abidjan with an urgent petition for greater diplomatic support, money, food, medicine and arms, citing the 'obligation' of the Jewish state to aid Biafra's cause. 

1968 the Mossad twice transferred to Biafra, through Zurich, the sum of $100,000.

An Israeli medical team worked in Biafra from September to December 1968, performing over 1,400 medical operations at a mortality rate of only four per cent.

In early summer 1968, Israel attempted, unsuccessfully, to carry out a secret arms transfer to Biafra. At that time, Tanzania refused Israel access to its airspace.

President Houphouët-Boigny of the Ivory Coast placed considerable pressure on Israel to help the Biafrans, telling Minerbi in late July 1968 that in his view humanitarian aid was insufficient.

On 26 August 1968, the Israeli foreign ministry reached agreement with the Abidjan government; Israel would supply arms to Biafra at no charge, with the Ivory Coast providing transport planes. 

Late 1968 Hanan Bar-On noted Israel's willingness even to continue clandestine arms sales to Biafra. But the head of the Africa division made it clear that the Biafrans would have to initiate such transactions through friendly governments and pay Israel in cash.

Israel's assistance to Biafra in 2013 terms reached $1.83 million, a considerable sum for the Israeli government in 1968. 

Israel's relations with Nigeria took a turn for the worse when, in July 1969, Abba Eban expressed concern in the Knesset for the victims on both sides of the conflict. 

Lagos' sever ties with Israel during the Yom Kippur war in October 1973.

Culled from: Israel, Nigeria and the Biafra civil war, 1967–70 by Zach Levey

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kingso96:
what is beachbum? what is my concern with that? I shared what I found on facebook. and for your information i'm not from akwa ibom or rivers . Channel your grievances to your ibom people .

Lol you're ranting about stuff you dont understand like another nairalander I refer to as beachbum. You saw a post on Facebook then thought it's a popular movement? There's no grievance to channel since nobody doing anything but talking. Blackking98 already told you facts but you're blindly arguing.

kingso96:
I think it's high time the FG look into either new state creations that was started by GEJ or still have 36 states but realign different states . For example , either create Anioma state or join anioma to anambra state ,etc.

Lol if people wanted such there's already a process to creating new states and readjusting boundries to existing. The fact is nobody lobbied politicians to do either yet. What politicians do you see advocating for this. Do you see anything other then Facebook post.

An Act of the National Assembly for the purpose of boundary adjustment of any existing State shall only be passed if- 

(a) a request for the boundary adjustment, supported by two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding and the area affected by the boundary adjustment) in each of the following, namely- 

(i) the Senate and the House of Representatives, 

(ii) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and 

(iii) the local government councils in respect of the area. is received by the National Assembly; and 

(b) a proposal for the boundary adjustment is approved by - 

(i) a simple majority of members of each House of the National Assembly, and 

(ii) a simple majority of members of the House of Assembly in respect of the area concerned

kingso96:
The people in those proposed States are not complaining and welcome the development.
Your state was also once proposed and agitated for.

Lol you're just ranting like beachbum. Look at steps below and which one have been achieved by the people who supposedly want a state. They're just a vocal minority yapping. They're no different from IPOBs who cant even get political support. The popularity ends on the internet.

An Act of the National Assembly for the purpose of creating a new State shall only be passed if-

(a) a request, supported by at least two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding the creation of the new State) in each of the following, namely -

(i) the Senate and the House of Representatives,

(ii) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and

(iii) the local government councils in respect of the area, is received by the National Assembly;

(b) a proposal for the creation of the State is thereafter approved in a referendum by at least two-thirds majority of the people of the area where the demand for creation of the State originated;

(c) the result of the referendum is then approved by a simple majority of all the States of the Federation supported by a simple majority of members of the Houses of Assembly; and

(d) the proposal is approved by a resolution passed by two-thirds majority of members of each House of the National Assembly.

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kingso96:
Saw this on facebook.
How true ?

It's all talk until the go to their representatives to get a vote done. Even then the national assembly has to approve it. It's doubtful they will because they dont want to change allocation or create unviable states. The steps are simple but nobody does the work because it's just day dreaming.

An Act of the National Assembly for the purpose of creating a new State shall only be passed if-

(a) a request, supported by at least two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding the creation of the new State) in each of the following, namely -

(i) the Senate and the House of Representatives,

(ii) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and

(iii) the local government councils in respect of the area, is received by the National Assembly;

(b) a proposal for the creation of the State is thereafter approved in a referendum by at least two-thirds majority of the people of the area where the demand for creation of the State originated;

(c) the result of the referendum is then approved by a simple majority of all the States of the Federation supported by a simple majority of members of the Houses of Assembly; and

(d) the proposal is approved by a resolution passed by two-thirds majority of members of each House of the National Assembly.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Their should be a "decline" option under sex

Interesting I wouldn't think Nigerians would want such an option. I might see the government asking about religion and marital status. Religious demographics is something nairalanders seem to obsess over so it should be asked.

Example: Kaduna is 45 Christian or something.

Nigeria needs conduct a census for proper planning and to adjust allocation. It's been 14 years since the last census was conducted. Nigeria has been stalling due to a lack of funds. It seems the Buhari administration is uninterested in conducting it so the next administration should tackle it.

Demographic information:
• ethnic background
• sex
• age
• address
• household size
• citizenship
• does anyone in the house live elsewhere.
• home ownership or renting

What other questions should be asked?

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kettykings:
Are you going to count the contributions of igbo , chinese ,indian business men as the contribution of the south west ?
The north according to the write up did not count the contributions of these people as their contributions, they did not count the contributions of yoruba taxi drivers in the north as their contributions

Dude go read the definition of GDP. All final goods and services priduced within the entities borders are counted within GDP. It's like saying foreign manufacturers shouldn't count towards China's GDP. This type of pointless debates and qualifers can only be found on nairaland...

The writter doesn't have better data than the NBS. Lol they checked each business papers to see where their shareholders are from. You are funny dude.

kettykings:
The percapita you are talking about is basically majorly from Lagos ,Lagos has expatriate quota , igbo ,Niger delta contribution even northern companies like Bua and Dangote boost Lagos contribution please stick to the objectives of the discuss

Lol see more pointless qualifiers to prolong obvious answer. It doesn't matter who invest in the state. If the other states cant attract investment that's their issue. These activities are counted towards GDP so what's the point of the useless qualifers. It's only present to make the debate interesting.

You have no way of precisely subtracting the "non indigenous" production. No you're wrong the per capita production includes more than lagos. Do rough math in you head and you'll notice it. Kano has the largest population and GDP in the north and rivals much smaller states.

kettykings:
forget all this GDP figures from yemi kale , please state the contribution in practical terms

Lol GDP numbers are no longer practical because you can't make pointless speculations. The chart puts the amounts in cash and full report shows the industry's in detail. You're clearly a joker.

kettykings:
The North and the South West who contributes more to Nigeria, please dont count expatriate quota as your contribution , i am talking about indigenous contributions

Lol you're adding pointless qualifilers to distract from the obvious fact. Even with the handicap the SW is obviously more productive on per capita and aggregate basis. What is the north? Is one geo political region going to compete with 3. How is this a debate.

Nigerians should worry about protecting themselves. It's unreasonable to expect these countries to guarantee your internal security. Boko haram is a Nigerian contagion that spread over the region. Nigeria has to solve the issues within those states.

It was not immediately clear how the decision would impact the anti-jihadist operations of the Multinational Joint Task Force (MNJTF) comprised of troops from countries bordering Lake Chad.

Lol Chad is very intelligent. There's no point bleeding your treasury fighting endless wars. Wetin concern them if Jihadists make the sahel their playground. Boko haram would be wise not to launch futher attacks on Chadian soldiers and people in lake chad. The Chadians will have no issue mowing them down when need arises.