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paddyDIGITAL:
Good move by UEFA. How will Advertisers make money to sponsor football events when players disrupt their advert campaigns?
So much arrogance by rich footballers.

No sponsorship, no football matches, no fat salary and bonuses, no super rich Ronaldo. Are you telling me all that Ronaldo drinks is water? These guys drink expensive wine; a bottle of wine that can buy a car. Now he's forming diet expert in public.
All of us know how to drink water. While you enjoy your life with expensive wine, leave us to make do with the coke we can afford. Life goes on.

TLona1:
I think Di Maria is better off as a sub rather than a starter. With that being said, Argentina should just get their shiit right.. whether na by legit or ojoro, they must win this cup oooohh..

budaatum:
I did not dodge to answer your question, blue. You answered it yourself.


Question: Where would they have seen Christ and learnt from him in the old testament?

Answer: Christ was the same one who instructed them to stone breakers of the law.

But if you disagree, tell me a different answer please, because your answer as already given is the most correct answer as far as I understand it to be.

As it was in the beginning, so it is now....

budaatum:
See the answer below

budaatum:
Who am I to question what I read in a book?

buda, of course. The one that Christ ordered to ask and knock and seek with all my heart and soul and mind and being.

I thought everyone is supposed to question, instead of just believing what they are told. Am I incorrect in asking God for understanding? If I do not question, how could I claim I understand. And if you have not questioned, how could you possibly have the same understanding as I who has questioned?

And no, not my own Gospel. For I buda is just not that smart as to invent my own Gospel. It is that which is given to me through the Holy Spirit when I question.

Blue, you say the death of Christ is the important bit, but even you must have learnt more from the life of Christ than you claim to have received from his death. Just check when you preach and you see what I mean. You'd find you preach the living Christ much more than Christ died on a cross.

breathelove:
Now, there is always this wrong notion that the world is getting worse, on the contrary, the world has never been this good in recorded history.
Less percentage live in poverty compared to any other time.
Life expectancy is higher.
fewer people have died in wars since 2000 than in any other relative period.
more nations are democratic with rule of law.
Consider this, It took the world less than a year to create a vaccine for a global pandemic.
Humans have never reacted so well to a pandemic as we did with Corona.
Also, fewer people are dying of natural disasters than at any other recorded time.
So when you talk about the world going crazy, you might be wrong except you meant it in a positive way.
I trust you would research more

budaatum:
Eternal learners, lol. That's what I call church people. They stay in the same class year after year learning the same sermons year in year out, three Score and ten some well past hundred and then they die and we put them in a box and we bury and burn some and that's the very end of them as far as I know though I hear of eternal life.

Isn't there like learn, exam, pass, promotion, graduate and freedom from the school of perpetual slavery before Eternal Life that I don't even get till I die? What a convenient way to waste Christ's Blood that he shed for me so that I may first live very fruitfully on this Earth!

The goal of Jesus' coming and living and dying and nail on cross and go to hell and go to heaven and sit with God and send me the Holy Spirit and to make some people write the Gospel and all the work to get it in to the hands of buda so that buda too may read is to make buda do.

That's why I have three score and ten; may I live so long Lord please. Plenty work few workers, so buda can't be delighting in some far away eternal life when there is so much living to be done before me. I still have a few years left, I pray.

There must be others too whom Christ energises. It can not be only me!

breathelove:
I beg you to do some research on this, you would be amazed

breathelove:
If you feel that anyone who would reduce his sugar and soda intake, look after his health better, and stay fit because of Ronaldo's example is a Zombie, then I think the world needs more Zombies

MaxInDHouse:
You're complicating issues for yourself my friend!

You and i know that whoever turn away from his sins will be forgiven but did Adam and Eve turn away?
And you dodged the real question: When, How, and Where did God give intentional wrongdoers a second chance after their death? Hebrews 9:27

budaatum:
You mix up two different groups of people. The breaker of the law is not the stoner, and if both do not learn from the teachings of Christ the law will be broken and the stoner will stone the breaker of the law.

We see this in Nigeria where we will burn thieves on our streets instead of applying the Wisdom of Christ of at least trying them in a court first and then punishing with mercy like throwing the guilty in jail for instance.

If we do not learn from Christ, we are bound to continue in our sinful barbaric nature of stoning and burning law breakers on our streets.

And by the way, that lamb in the old Testament represents the repented self. Ones lamb is not figuratively unblemished if one continues in one's sinful ways.

budaatum:
You mix up two different groups of people. The breaker of the law is not the stoner, and if both do not learn from the teachings of Christ the law will be broken and the stoner will stone the breaker of the law.

We see this in Nigeria where we will burn thieves on our streets instead of applying the Wisdom of Christ of at least trying them in a court first and then punishing with mercy like throwing the guilty in jail for instance.

If we do not learn from Christ, we are bound to continue in our sinful barbaric nature of stoning and burning law breakers on our streets.

And by the way, that lamb in the old Testament represents the repented self. Ones lamb is not figuratively unblemished if one continues in one's sinful ways.

budaatum:
Do I have eternal life? Will I even live till I'm 110 years old? Why would I be worrying about some future eternal life when the worry of today should be sufficient for day?

Jesus death does not save me from anything. His death does not stop me from killing you nor does his death stop me from insulting and being rude to you!

I am saved by learning the various lessons he taught me and by not committing the errors he taught me not to commit.


I will make you fishers of humans
Fishers of humans
Fishers of humans
I will make you fishers of humans
If you follow me!

And I assure you he did not mean follow me and die!

The use of learning everything from Jesus is that while I live, greater things than Jesus did would I be empowered to do in my lifetime!

I must say though that since I am only human and can not possibly learn everything from Jesus, I am willing to settle for like 60-70% and perhaps do 50% of what he did. Yep, that would be immensely pleasing, I would think.

budaatum:
Do I have eternal life? Will I even live till I'm 110 years old? Why would I be worrying about some future eternal life when the worry of today should be sufficient for day?

Jesus death does not save me from anything. His death does not stop me from killing you nor does his death stop me from insulting and being rude to you!

I am saved by learning the various lessons he taught me and by not committing the errors he taught me not to commit.


I will make you fishers of humans
Fishers of humans
Fishers of humans
I will make you fishers of humans
If you follow me!

And I assure you he did not mean follow me and die!

The use of learning everything from Jesus is that while I live, greater things than Jesus did would I be empowered to do in my lifetime!

I must say though that since I am only human and can not possibly learn everything from Jesus, I am willing to settle for like 60-70% and perhaps do 50% of what he did. Yep, that would be immensely pleasing, I would think.

budaatum:
No, blueAgent. It is not that I do not understand. I just have a different understanding to your own.

You see, for me, the wealth is in the fact that Jesus lived and taught a great deal that I find to be of immense value and benefit to me, and I wish he had lived longer and taught more so I can have a lot more to study and learn from. While for you, the wealth is in his dying.

It's like when Jesus is written to have said "some are blind, some are deaf, some are unclean, some are lame and to some is the Gospel preached", so do you get what you require and I too get what I require too, to each according to our need.

breathelove:
Well, again your opinion. Wise men learn from greatness. The world is greater than it has ever been because we are blessed with the experience of millions of great people that came before us. If you do not understand the power of influence, it would be hard to explain my point to you. Many great footballers were influenced by the playing styles of stars before them. Great leaders were influenced by the lives and writings of those before them. Scientists are influenced by the works of those before them.
And the notion that the world is going crazy or getting worst, I don't know where people get that from. Do some research and you would find out that the world is far better and safer than it has ever been. I could send you a few articles to read if you are interested.

budaatum:
See? Even you say the law still stands, so the "penalty of the law" must stand too, and only by learning and understanding the teaching of Christ can one be free from breaking the law and thereby be free of the penalty of the law.

Basically, if I do not commit murder, the penalty for not committing murder can not apply to me, just as the penalty for not loving my enemies would not apply to me if I love my enemies.

And it is not the death of Jesus that would stop me committing murder or loving my enemies, but me accepting the teachings of Christ as my guiding Light.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you prove the bolded?

When, where and how did God gave people who deliberately did evil things second chance and how do we now reconcile that with His standard for justice?

MaxInDHouse:
Can you prove the bolded?

When, where and how did God gave people who deliberately did evil things second chance and how do we now reconcile that with His standard for justice?

budaatum:
See? Even you say the law still stands, so the "penalty of the law" must stand too, and only by learning and understanding the teaching of Christ can one be free from breaking the law and thereby be free of the penalty of the law.

Basically, if I do not commit murder, the penalty for not committing murder can not apply to me, just as the penalty for not loving my enemies would not apply to me if I love my enemies.

And it is not the death of Jesus that would stop me committing murder or loving my enemies, but me accepting the teachings of Christ as my guiding Light.

livingchrist:
Is it the ministration that was written on the two tablets of stones giving to moses or the ten commandments?

Exodus 34:29
And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.

You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

2 Corinthians 3:7
But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

livingchrist:
Is it the ministration that was written on the two tablets of stones giving to moses or the ten commandments?

Exodus 34:29
And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.

You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

2 Corinthians 3:7
But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

livingchrist:
so thou shall not commit adultery that paul called the law is ceremonial law? It was you that said the law paul was talking about was ceremonial law

livingchrist:
God writing the ten commandment with his finger is part of the glory of the old testament, he did it to glorify the law. Every other part of the law were extensions of the ten commanment, the ten commandment is like a summary of the over 614 laws.

Paul was specifically referring to the law written on the table of stones giving to moses.
The old covenant has passed away with all its laws, the new has come but however the new covenant open up the old testament and shows it's TRUE meaning however, Through the new covenant the law is fulfilled and established.

livingchrist:
Answer the question, and prove that I am lying

livingchrist:
Mark 12:29-31 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Clown, and your brain did not tell you that those 2commandments are the same as the 10commandments?

While the Bible itself doesn’t make these associations directly and explicitly, Paul comes close in Romans 13, where he connects the second greatest command to love your neighbor with four of the ten commandments, all of which come in the second group.

Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

ROMANS 13:8–10
Paul mentions #7 (adultery), #6 (murder), #8 (stealing), #10 (covetousness) from the Ten Commandments and then includes a catchall “whatever other command there may be,” which no doubt includes #9 (lying) and perhaps #5 (honoring parents) and other more specific commands outside the Ten Commandments. Notably absent are any of the first four. He says this group of commandments “are summed up” (v. 9) in the command “Love your neighbor as yourself,” which is “the fulfillment of the law” (v. 10b; cf. v 8b).

So there’s some biblical basis for associating this second group of commands, which focus on how we treat others, with the second greatest commandment to love our neighbors. By extension, then, we could conclude that the first group of commands corresponds to the greatest command, to love God supremely, which fits the subject of these commandments.



smh who is the liar now.
Anyway I m done with you

budaatum:
I guess I'm more interested in Christ's life than the fact we ignorantly stupidly crucified him for which I seek forgiveness.

We'd probably have been taught a lot more if we hadn't.

breathelove:
That's your opinion. People generally need a leader to follow. That's why we read books and learn from others' lives. Christians for example read the bible to learn from the life of Christ and his prophets. There is great value in understanding successful people

MaxInDHouse:
I asked series of questions in the write up, can you answer just one to prove you're truly for righteousness?

For example, God is destroying people who don't believe (trust) in Him.
So how do you reconcile that with the idea that God will spare those whose rebellion brought all of us into this situation?

Myer:
I wish to know your interpretation of this verse.

John 13:34-35
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

MaxInDHouse:
Before the Israelites enter into the promise land where God promised to protect them from all their enemies He instructed them to set apart cities of refuge. This cities will serve as a place to run to for safety if any man or woman should mistakenly kill someone. Numbers 35:6
So an unintentional killer must run into any city of refuge closest to him otherwise a relative of the deceased will serve as an avenger of blood and he has every right to kill him. Numbers 35:11-12
According to God's standard for justice any intentional killer will not be delivered! Numbers 35:16-20

Now based on God's righteous standard Adam and Eve deliberately chose death which has resulted to suffering, sickness and death in the lives of billions of innocent people from a day old child to a man who still love to continue living his youthful life but growing old and weak by the day all because of the choice two individuals (Adam and Eve) made!

Do you think the avenger of blood (Jesus Christ) is coming to spare those two intentional murderers who put mankind into this dreadful condition? Luke 11:51

So salvation is only for the innocent not for wilful intentional wrongdoers. Adam and Eve deliberately put all their descendants in big trouble, if anything should spare them of their intentional wrongdoing then there is no reason for God to send their descendants who never heard God speak directly like Noah's contemporaries and the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah to eternal destruction.

Jesus declared that people who saw and heard from him yet refused to take his wise counsel will PERISH {Matthew 11:23} he even goes on to say those that deliberately ignore warning from his followers will not be spared {Matthew 10:11-15} so why do you think two individuals who had everything at their disposal: the best food, purest water, sound health, prospect of living forever as youth courtesy the one who asked them to keep just one single rule and they deliberately chose to rebel against Him will be forgiven, but people who are suffering the consequences of those two rebels and struggling to manage what they had will not be forgiven simply because they disobey the person they can't see or hear His voice?
Remember Adam and Eve were privileged to speak with God one on one!

budaatum:
Not the "penalty of breaking God's law". Because as you yourself said, the law and the penalty still applies.

What Jesus came to teach was how not to break the commandments in the first place so that the law of breaking them does not apply to one.