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Ranchhoddas:
You used to be bright. What happened?

I guess am evolving.

hahn:
kingebukasblog, felixomor, blueagent and other christians can easily visit and heal this woman na. VEry small thing

Why are you disturbing us. The leg is Evolving, I thought you should have known that?

finally Atheists have an Evidence to show after looking for one for the past 200yrs and still counting.

blackweaver:
Well we just believe. To say that we know is to be as arrogant as those who say otherwise - unless you have a verified source that is acceptable by all that we're not aware of

You are as guility as the theists who depend on faith.

Thats just what you mean by saying "we believe"

JackBizzle:
Guy, was this your contribution to the thread? You no wel

The best contribution so far.

felixomor:
Butterflylion clearly showed u a reasearch link that debunks what u copied
And even explaining the chemistry behind why soft tissue cant last 65 million years.

I even buttressed it.
Even the strongest formaldehyde cant last that long.

You can all but pretend you dont see that

Thats facts.

felixomor:
we are still waiting for your demonstration of 65 million years embalmment science secret.

Besides, you just said the scientist got fired
You just reemphasised the essence of the whole cover up and settling.

My Bro, you go wait tire, Evolutionists has kept us waiting for over 100yrs yet no evidence of past,present or future Evol-illusion
am tired of waiting.

Ranchhoddas:
Please read the thread.
This was already published in 2005 by NOTABLE PALEONTOLOGIST Mary Schweitzer.
His discovery was not new.
In science when something is discovered, the next thing is to begin to make postulates which Mary Schweitzer did.
Nothing is accepted as absolute truth in science until it is foolproof.
You guy did not. He went and began to tell everyone that his discovery validates his beliefs. Very unscientific and he got fired.
The University settled because it will be cheaper in the long run than a drawn out legal battle.
Anyone who knows the American legal system will see that it was a prudent move.
Do a Google search.
Mark Armitage is a renowned pseudoscientist.

Story for the gods.

felixomor:
Sorry for trying to inconvenience u with wisdom.
I should have ignored your mention.

Guy i need money. don't you think we should look for something, of cos there are lots of lies in Evolution we can profit from?
Atheists are desperate they will pay sharp sharp. Lol......

butterflylion:
I was about to say 9mobile fall on you but when I saw that they already fell on you since yesterday I had to stop.

See guy, desperation to sell a lie no dey make the lie to be truth you hear?

A truly scientific mind with ask a simple question. If iron can preserve tissues for so long why then isn't iron used for embalming corpses? If iron can preserve tissues for so long was iron part of the composition of the soil where this particular fossil was found?

You think say the Christian scientist no consider these things before speaking out? They knew they had no case and could not defend anything so they had to cut the guy loose using religious discrimination. At least that's a lesser evil than shooting evolution in the head by exposing this discovery.

They chose to save evolution with $400k

Scientific thieves.

On point.

felixomor:
Sharrap. And read the story properly.

The school was sued for religious discrimination because of his discovery, and they lost the bid to stop the case before they agreed to settle.

Don't mind him, he is only pretending. they know the truth that he was sacked to stop him from exposing Evoluscam.

felixomor:
He actually wants to pretend as if he didn't read that part of the story.
Besides even if he is correct, why did the university choose to settle and why did they loose the bid to stop the scientists case?

Hehehehe.

Nice Question. this issue and Atheism runs deeper than most Sheepie Athiests know.

butterflylion:
I thought they claim only atheists make good scientists. This one wey be Christian no be scientist? Cool $400k for scientific whistle blowing.

Lol.....Whistle blowing don turn career thanks to APC.

felixomor:
University settles lawsuit with scientist fired after he found soft tissue in dinosaur bones


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CSUN scientist Mark Armitage found soft tissue in a dinosaur bone, a discovery that throws significant doubt on evolution. Then, two weeks after publishing his findings, he was fired.

Now California State University at Northridge has paid Armitage a six-figure sum to settle his wrongful termination suit based on religious discrimination. While the university admits no wrongdoing, Armitage’s attorney said they feared losing a protracted lawsuit because of a “smoking gun” email that backed the plaintiff’s case.

The case of Armitage is the latest to show the mounting hostility Christians face in academics and other public arenas.

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“Soft tissue in dinosaur bones destroys ‘deep time.’ Dinosaur bones cannot be old if they’re full of soft tissue,” Armitage said in a YouTube video. “Deep time is the linchpin of evolution. If you don’t have deep time, you don’t have evolution. The whole discussion of evolution ends if you show that the earth is young. You can just erase evolution off the whiteboard because of soft tissue in dinosaur bones.”

Armitage was hired as a microscopist to manage CSUN’s electron and confocal microscope suite in 2010. He had published some 30 articles in scientific journals about his specialty.

A graduate of Liberty University, Armitage adheres to the “young earth” view, against the majority of scientists who say our planet is 5 billion years old. He engaged students in his lab with Socratic dialogue over the issue of the earth’s age based on his and others’ research, he said.

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In May 2012, Armitage went on a dinosaur dig at the famous fossil site of Hell Creek in Montana, where he unearthed the largest triceratops horn ever found there. Back at CSUN, he put the fossil under his microscope and made the startling discovery: unfossilized, undecayed tissue was present.

If the dinosaur were 65 million years old, the soft tissue could not have possibly remained, he says. His findings seconded groundbreaking discoveries by noted molecular paleontologist Mary Schweitzer, who triggered an earthquake in the world of paleontology when she published about soft tissue in dinosaur bones in 2005. (Schweitzer subsequently postulated that iron is responsible for preserving the soft tissue.)

Armitage’s February 2013 study was published in the peer-reviewed Acta Histochemica, a journal of cell and tissue research. Two week later, he found himself without a job.

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A biology professor had come into his office and said, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department.”

Armitage fought back. Professors and students alike had praised his work managing the microscope lab. His suit alleged he was excluded from a secret meetings of the microscopy committee. In a “smoking gun” email, university officials suggested they could ease Armitage out of his part-time position by making it full-time, Reinach said.

A colleague described the process as a “witch hunt,” according to Inside Higher Ed.

For two years, CSUN fought Armitage’s lawsuit. The university alleged his firing was simply a restructuring of their biology department and not a case of religious discrimination. But CSUN lost its bid to have the judge summarily throw the case out of court as groundless in July of last year.

A biology professor had come into his office and said, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department.”

Armitage fought back. Professors and students alike had praised his work managing the microscope lab. His suit alleged he was excluded from a secret meetings of the microscopy committee. In a “smoking gun” email, university officials suggested they could ease Armitage out of his part-time position by making it full-time, Reinach said.

A colleague described the process as a “witch hunt,” according to Inside Higher Ed.

For two years, CSUN fought Armitage’s lawsuit. The university alleged his firing was simply a restructuring of their biology department and not a case of religious discrimination. But CSUN lost its bid to have the judge summarily throw the case out of court as groundless in July of last year.

So CSUN settled with Armitage for $399,500 in 2016, according to Inside Higher Ed.

Alan Reinach, Armitage’s attorney, hailed the settlement as precedent-setting.

“We are not aware of any other cases where a creationist received a favorable outcome,” said Reinach, executive director of the Church State Council, a nonprofit California public interest legal organization. “This was truly a historic case.”

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CSUN has downplayed its decision to settle, saying in a statement that the university is committed to religious freedom and freedom of speech.

“The Superior Court did not rule on the merits of Mr. Armitage’s complaint, and this voluntary settlement is not an indication of wrong-doing,” according to a CSUN statement published in Retraction Watch. “The decision to settle was based on a desire to avoid the costs involved in a protracted legal battle, including manpower, time and state dollars.”

But Reinach countered: “They certainly would not have paid that kind of money if they did not recognize that we had them dead to rights. The state doesn’t put large, six-figure settlement money out unless they are really concerned they are going to lose.”

Prior to looking for soft tissue in dinosaur bones, Armitage studied diatoms, unicellular organisms that make up phytoplankton, which reveal a dizzying complexity and organization at the microscopic level.

According to Armitage, the beauty and complexity of diatoms lends credence to the idea they are a product of a Creator and not of spontaneous evolution.

“Evolution is structure supported by two pillars: one is chance, and the other is time. Chance is required because we obviously can’t say that a thinking force created life on earth. That is anathema for the materialists. If you kick out one of those two pillars the whole structure collapses,” Armitage noted. “If you kick out chance by showing incredible design, the structure of evolution starts to totter and it may crash. Because you cannot have design in a world that doesn’t have a Designer.

“The other pillar is time because you cannot get a man from a frog unless the princess kissed the frog. That’s a fairy tale. So in science you have to have deep time to get evolution.”

Subsequent to the controversy, Armitage has been on additional digs and found more soft tissue but is finding it difficult to get published. “I’m clearly being blackballed,” he said in The College Fix.

“Soft tissue in dinosaur bones destroys deep time.” Armitage said. “Dinosaur bones cannot be old if they’re full of soft tissue.”


SOURCES:

http://blog.godreports.com/2017/08/university-settles-lawsuit-with-scientist-fired-after-he-found-soft-tissue-in-dinosaur-bones/

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/us-university-settles-lawsuit-creationist


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Excellent article Bro.

This proves that they have something they are hiding from the public it also shows that Atheism is promoted and sponsored by Satanic Elites who want to use it to destory religeon.

blackweaver:
The theory of evolution IS an assumption, the assumption that all the factors that support the theory have always been the way they are

But we know that all the factors can never remain the same.

blackweaver:
Here my own take,
I don't presume to know if evolution actually happened or not, I wasn't there after all. At the same time I believe we need to be careful not to look at things from a 1-sided point of view
Personally I believe some of the points are looking at things from only one perspective. Perhaps under the current condition of the earth these facts hold true, but what if there was a time in the past when conditions were different and one or even all of those conditions could actually happen?



I like and support this particular point and believe that scientists might POSSIBLY be wrong about their radioactive dating methods, however I also believe we have to be careful not to make the same mistake we're accusing them of making: if in the past there was different kind of radioactive, solar, volcanic activity etc, isn't it possible that sometime in the past conditions could occur that no longer occur naturally on earth that could make those points listed by the OP possible?
For instance, mutation; isn't it a potential form of adaptation?
Say for instance, a particular mutation that might be seen as harmful under earth's present weather/atmospheric state might actually give an animal a biological edge under a different atmospheric/weather state, and if that state continues long enough, those with that mutation turn out to be the fittest.
What's to say that humans as we are now were not a mutation some hundreds of thousands of years ago (assuming the world has been around that long)?



Well unless you don't believe in the existence of other planets, I think this argument should not even have been used at all. The moon hasn't been thoroughly been investigated, not to talk about Mars. You're even assuming that life on Mars has to be somewhat similar to life on earth. For all we know, "life forms" on Mars might be so different from earth that we might not recognise it at first, and even if there's no life on Mars, there are 6 more planets in our solar system and millions more in our galaxy alone.
So to say that because you haven't detected life on Mars, there's no extraterrestial life is like saying that because you can't see any insect on a particular rock, there's no insect on any rock. It just doesn't follow.

I have made a number of points, and I don't claim to be right, I'm just saying that we have to be careful not to make the same mistake we're accusing the evolutionists of making i.e. assumptions based on the current state of things. The truth is that we don't know enough to be sure and we may never know enough as long as we live.

But you know something? Even if evolution did take place, it doesn't disprove the existence of God; for all we know, evolution is God's process of making things happen so at the end, whether or not evolution occurred doesn't really matter.

So evolution is based on assumption and not facts?

gabe:
Stop looking at evolution as one group of animals evolving from others. Imagine a tree. The proto ancestor is the main trunk, while birds, fish, mammals etc evolved separately as different branches with evolution resulting in still more sub-branches over millions of years. You may ask why some organisms have been stable for so long. Evolution doesn't happen for its sake. Living organisms develop features that give them a better chance of surviving and prospering in their environment. Thus, natural selection drives evolution. Remember, evolution is a series of tiny steps over millions of years resulting in the very many big differences we see now.

No Theory of Evolution can account for Irreducible complexity in organisms.

Horlufemi:
My guy, my guy.
You have the clear understanding.
God bless you

Thanks Bro.

gabe:
The theory of irreducible complexity has been debunked severally with intermediate organ forms in other organisms eg the presence of photosensitive cells or light spots as a precursor to the eye.

The increasing complexity of circulatory systems from tissue level organisms to insects to mammals show how it has evolved in different organisms. Note also the increase in heart chambers from lower to higher animals.

The increasing complexity of nervous systems from lower organisms to mammals

Sophistication is not proof of design by creation if evidence of evolution exists.

denying the presence of fossils because they don't fit into your creation narrative is just silly. there are lots of fossils showing intermediary forms of today's homo sapiens. That these fossils survived is just pure luck as bone and other matter from living organisms is biodegradable.

I see you 've also debunked carbon dating because it doesn't fit your narrative. This is just off my head, so I haven't given sufficient answers.
There are lots of answers to your wrong assertions, but if you are serious about learning, google the counter narrative to each point you've made. Evolution/ science doesn't have all the answers yet, but it keeps trying to find them. Can't say the same for creationism which is based on pseudoscience.

Can you explain to us How a fish survived without gills while living on land till its Evolution to bird was complete?

buygala:
New episode in the endless season films acted to keep the gullible as gullible as possible

Sometimes I wonder whether the propaganda in Nigerian churches isn't more than that of this APC administration

Smh

Atheist's Logic
Woman gave birth without Womb.response :it is impossible.

A Woman/Human was made by random wind and inanimate substances all by chance: possible

Tell me why Atheism is not insanity.

chemystery:
Theism deal with faith while atheism is concerned with fact. Faith is an instinct and intelligent people (atheists) are known to be better at rising above their instincts.

What is Fact in assuming that the Birds Evolued from Fishes without giving us detailed information of how it happened or that life originated from inanimate substances and till date no Atheists has givien us a hint of how it happened but they believe it, is that not Faith?
Atheists and double standard.

akintom:
In years to come, more religious minds, will be sufficiently disillusioned with religious organizations, and they shall be rehabilitated from cognitive dissonance, into rational mentality.

Most churches, have a formal documentation of material and financial contributions of their members, to the churches. In fact, the Anglican church, will have to first confirm that a member, was in good financial membership, before the church will agree to offer Christian wake service, when such member dies.

And within the Pentecostal faction, the ringleaders, will psychologically breakdown their members, whenever they are buffeted by vicissitudes of life. By saying that their difficulties, are handiwork of devourers, sent by Yahweh, since they robbed Yahweh of tithe and offerings. That's why bishop Oyedepo, bandy the rhyme - "your life is tight, because you don't tithe".

But few years ago, a certain Christian, who belong to the christ embassy faction, headed by ringleader called Chris Oyakhilome, stole the money of his employer, and donated the money to christ embassy in the most generous and cheerful way, to the extent that he got a commendation letter from the ringleader himself. Just as apostle Paul did, during his own time.

And when this criminal Christian was found out, he confessed that he donated the stolen money to Chris embassy. The law enforcement agents contacted the church, for confirmation. The church said yes he did, but the donation was to Yahweh. Since the prosecutors can't reach Yahweh, the stolen money was gone.

Now, christ embassy had the financial record of this stolen money, why did they activate the Yahweh alibi? When in reality, christ embassy was a significant accomplice, in a case of financial fraud. This is a criminal act by all definition.

The criminals who have raped and plundered this country since independence, have donated part of the filthy lucre, to different religious houses in humongous amounts. But if these den of criminals, are asked to present their financial records, of their members' donations, in the event of financial fraud investigation, they will cry religious persecution.

If an organization, thrives on lies, Hypocrisy, aiding and abetting criminal behavior, that organization is a perfect definition of criminal organization.

The Nigerian churches, that vehemently resisted the statutory duty of CAC, from looking into their books, are now mouthing their readiness, in collaborating with EFCC to fight corruption. What else, can be described as malicious hypocrisy, than this play to gallery, by Nigerian churches.


#epihanic

Another Dumb post.

easymancfc:
There is a fundamental flaw in your pressupposition that puts your argument in error.. Your interpret the old testament incomplete revelation to interpret clear complete new testament revelation.. Instead of using complete new testament revelation to interpret the old testament incomplete revelation... So you cannot use Ezekiel to tell what Revelation is saying instead you Revelation to tell what Ezekiel is saying...
The fullness of Revelation is in Jesus Christ that's why the bible says in
Heb 1: 1 In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 
AND JESUS SAYS
to his disciplines about Judgement
mat 25:41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels;

to John in Revelation..

rev 20:10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

SO YES I BELIEVE WHAT JESUS SAYS BECAUSE IT IS CLEAR AND I DONT NEED INCOMPLETE REVELATION OF EZEKIEL OR PSALM TO UNDERSTAND CLEAR COMPLETE REVELATION FROM THE SON OF GOD HIMSELF..

EVEN THE DEVILS KNOW THEIR OWN FATE..
Mat 8:29 And behold, they cried out, “What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?”

THEY KNOW THEIR FATE IS ETERNAL TORMENT NOT ANNIHILATION

HaHaHaHaHaHa .......I cann't laugh enough.
Really!!!!!!!

Am done with your ingnorance go ahead and worship mary and all the dead saints aswell as continue in all your fake doctrine
My joy is that you would answer for it.

Bye

easymancfc:
Cherry picking and out of context

If that were true... then the wicked should just be annihilated after judgement...

death here is the second death... and what is the second death

THE LAKE OF FIRE...
Rev 21: 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

TAKE NOTE IT SAYS HAVE THEIR PART.. NOT ANNIHILATED OR DESTROYED OR DIE OR BE KILLED..

What is eternal life its not just to live forever.. it is ETERNITY WITH GOD...

You looking for an easy way out by accussing me of what you are doing. why not explain to me how the Sinners will be ashes and still be burning.

Your argument just exposed you. slowly re-read you comment above.

easymancfc:
Cherry picking and out of context

If that were true... then the wicked should just be annihilated after judgement...

death here is the second death... and what is the second death

THE LAKE OF FIRE...
Rev 21: 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

TAKE NOTE IT SAYS HAVE THEIR PART.. NOT ANNIHILATED OR DESTROYED OR DIE OR BE KILLED..

What is eternal life its not just to live forever.. it is ETERNITY WITH GOD...

You looking for an easy way out by accussing me of what you are doing. why not explain to me how the Sinners will be ashes and still be burning.

easymancfc:
ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS LOOK FOR THE EASY WAT OUT... CHERRY PICKING OLD TESTAMENT VERSES THAT TALK ABOUT DESTRUCTION ETC OUT OF CONTEXT...

MY CHURCHES FAKE DOCTRINE? THAT WOULD BE TRUE IF ONLY MY CHURCH HAS THAT DOCTRINE... BUT 90 % OF CHRISTIANITY CORRECTLY HOLDS THAT DOCTRINE... AND CHRISTIANITY AS A WHOLE HAS HAD THAT DOCTRINE FOR 1900 YRS UNTIL YOUR 19TH CENTURY HERESY CAME IN...

A PLACE ACCORDING TO JESUS WAS PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS AND ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM... TO BE FOR ETERNITY

mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS:

WHICH THE JESUS ALSO AFFIRMS WITH HIS REVELATION TO JOHN THAT INDEED THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS AND ALL THEY HAVE DECEIVED WILL SUFFER TOGETHER INDEED IN THE LAKE OF FIRE...

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be TORMENTED NIGHT AND DAY FOREVERAND EVER...

rev 14: 11 and the smoke of their TORMENT ASCENDETH UP FOREVER AND EVER : and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

DONT CHERRY PICK VERSES THAT SUPPORT YOUR OWN PRECONCEIVED NOTION... UNLESS YOU CAN SHOW WHERE THE LAKE OF FIRE IS QUENCHED THEN I CAN BELIEVE YOU...

You are the one cherry picking. i asked you to explain the meaning of Eziekel 28:1-end without quoting another bible verse.

I know you cannot it will expose your flaw.

easymancfc:
Angels were all created for the same purpose... to serve God, Good or bad, They were created with the same LONGEVITY....

GOD IS ALL POWERFUL HE CAN DESTROY ANYTHING HE WANTS HUMANS, ANGELS, ETC...

BUT HE CREATED THEM WITH IMMORTALITY...
SO THEY TOO WILL SERVE HIM FOREVER... MICHAEL FOR EXAMPLE HAS BEING THERE, SINCE HE WAS CREATED... HE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE... JESUS' WORDS WERE VERY CLEAR... ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

IT DOESNT MEAN OFCOURSE THAT GOD IF HE CHOOSES TO CANNOT ANNIHILATE THEM... THE THING IS... HE WONT....

GOD IS OUTSIDE OF TIME WHILE EVERYTHING IN CREATION EXISTS IN TIME...

Laughable. biggest heresy of the century.

You see how you twist scriptures. you said angels are immortal yet you say God can destory them.
Why are you scared of facing the truth?

If God can destory a the angels as you said then while doubt the fact that the same God has said he will consume sinners (including the Fallen angels and the Devil( and turn them to ashes.

While cann't you accept this fact. i know becos it exposes your Church's fake doctrine.

Let me ask you while select bible verses and leave the ones that expose your church doctrine?

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
correction, for instruction in righteousness:


We are not allowed to cherry pick bible verses.
all the Bible verses that talks about the fate of sinners the fallen angels and the Devil must be considered that i have done but you keep twisting and recycling the same bible verses even after there true meaning have been proved.

easymancfc:
LOL SO YOU HAVE NOW BROUGHT "SCIENCE" INTO THE ARGUMENT...

GODS JUSTICE IS GIVING DUE REWARD AND DUE PUNISHMENT...

SO GOD SHOULD GIVE UNENDING HEAVEN TO A PERSON WHO LIVES A RIGHTEOUS LIFE 200YR LIFE BUT SHOULD NOT GIVE UNENDING FIRE/ TORMENT TO A PERSON WHO LIVES A SINFUL LIFE RIGHT? AND THAT IS JUSTICE TO YOU ABI

IF YOU'RE AFRAID OF HELL JUST SAY SO...


God is infinitely holy, infinitely good etc so when you sin against an infinitely holy God, your punishment should you CHOOSE not to repent is INFINITE... ETERNAL PUNISHMENT

if you love and obey an infinitely holy, infinitely good God, your reward will INFINITE, if you dont fall away and remain away..
ETERNAL REWARD...

THIS IS THE JUSTICE GOD IS KNOWN FOR... ETERNAL REWARD AND ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (Mat 25:46, Dan 12:2)

As for your immortal soul... go and read the earlier comments on this thread... you have swayed the topic enough

Your logic is really laughable.

The bible says the wages of Sin is DEATH not eternal fire simple.

easymancfc:
IF REVELATION WAS NOT WRITTEN IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER THEN YOUR NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH THEORY DOESNT WORK EITHER... because when it happens would be unclear and you can draw your conclusion from it...

You can google it.

easymancfc:
Yes they shall not be... either because they have died and are in hell or in the lake of fire.. THEY SHALL NOT BE ON EARTH OR IN HEAVEN..

Wrong idea.

easymancfc:
You are always accusing me of twisting scripture... who gave you the power to be the sole infallible interpreter of scripture... so that anyone who interprets it differently is twisting it are you the only one who interprets scripture correctly
what authority do you have to say that... when according to your doctrine every christian has the right to read and interpret scriptures

I never claimed to be the interpreter of the Scripture.
We are expected to search and know the truth about God's word.
My argument and interpretation of the Bible is consistent with what every other part of the Bible says.

The Bible instructs us to
2 Timothy 2:15King James Version (KJV)
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a
workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

If the Sinners are to burn in Hellfire forever why did the bible talk about the second death and sinners becoming ashes. to reconcile this you need to every bible verse on that particular topic and not just some selected bible verses that support your preconcieved idea.

easymancfc:
YOU'RE RIGHT.. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, GODS MERCY IS NOT OPPOSED TO HIS JUSTICE... IN THIS LIFE HE GIVES US OPPORTUNITIES TO REPENT AND ACCEPT HIS MERCY.. WHEN WE CHOOSE NOT TO.. THEN HIS JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL....

THAT IS WHY PAUL SAYS in heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

You contracdict yourself here their is no justice in burning someone for eternity for sin he committed in a lifetime of let say 200yrs.