₦airaland Forum

oz4real83:
are u also aware of a whiteman who locked up his step daughter for many years and kept raping her everyday? There is evil everywhere and colour isnt a determinant factor.

Ayokunlemi96:
And have you heard of Dr. Josef Mengele? He is white.

Good and evil dwells in every man of every race, tribe and religion. It is you who must find the balance in your heart and become what you want to see in your society. I am a black man, proud and i will never think of raping, slaughtering, dismembering a human and i am certain you wont to even if you are not proud of your skin.

whizcartel:
Bros. Africa own just worse. That thing happened in America because owing a gun is legal there. imagine if owning a gun is legal in any part if Africa. beside the police swung into action. But in Africa. that woman and her son died just like that. The whole world has issues o! but Africa own is greater. abi you no agree with me?

Ubenedictus:
no dear, I don't even have the time to digress, I have noticed that you guys are in the habit of criticising what you don't understand and calling it satanic.

so my question remains, are you sure you know the difference between an occultic symbol and a Christian symbol, or you are just throwing accusations.

zanogo:
God bless you for this, i repeat there is no country in the whole world that is as blessed like congo dr in terms of natural resources, it is a very big shame, do you know it was rumoured that the uranium used in making the atomic bomb used on hiroshima was mined from congo Dr and currently all mobile phone producers in the world depends heavilly on congo for "coltan" an abbreviation for columbite and tantallite and an important component of phone hardware. i have read many things about congo and sometimes i am moved to tears. Congo is just nothing but hell in paradise

Mujtahida:
In other words sin doesn't exist apart from the law so much so that from the long span of years between Adam and Moses sin did not exist in the world including Adam's gaffe in the garden.

Ubenedictus:
are you sure you even know the difference between an occultic symbol and a Christian symbol?

easymancfc:
If you read Dr Steve Weidenkof's book the real story of the crusades... or Rod Bennett's The Four witnesses or the apostasy that wasn't or Gary michuta's Hostile witnesses or Read Jimmy Akins response to the book written about the topic you would find responses to all.. I don't depend on YouTube videos.. I prefer books or articles with references I can verify...

easymancfc:
I don't have time to go back and forth with you... Go and read where I addressed your post about the Sabbath and there's also the testimony of early Christians

christemmbassey:
The law was abolished (brought to an end) by the Cross.





He abolished the Jewish Law with its commandments and rules, in order to create out of the two races one new people in union with himself, in this way making peace.
Ephesians 2:15 GNT
http://bible.com/68/eph.2.15.GNT

Tampinu:
Seen. Thanks.
Next?

Tampinu:
OK, I'm so sorry I will never twist the Bible again to suit my hearsay, so please explain Hebrews 11:1 to us (without twisting the message)

Many thanks

easymancfc:
That doesn't prove anything.. I have seen people who were born Christians went to churches and later became Muslims.. I have seen people who left the Adventist church to other denominations because unlike you, they see that its not right... I have seen people from different denominations becoming Jehovah's witnesses because of the same reason you are giving...

IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE...
according to the bible people will leave good Christian fellowships to join false prophets.. So changing denominations is not a criteria for truth...

According to history, early Christians, and general bible interpretation Early Christians worshipped on Sunday not the sabbath.. DEAL WITH IT...

easymancfc:
I have seen all of those... and like I said earlier they have been refuted many times... even on the list you provided

Tampinu:
But the Bible says in Hebrews 11:1 that faith is evidence of things unseen, so if you have Faith, you will see it. If you believe you will see it, if you accept, you will see it; not the other way round!

easymancfc:
According to your Adventist interpretation of the Bible... Which every other Christian Denomination reject and interpret correctly.. According to the Bible.. The Jews had the Sabbath... but the Christians had the First day of the week, the day of the resurrection.. the Lord's day..

easymancfc:
What are you laughing at...
You asked how I knew that the Catholic Church didn't forge those writings AND I ANSWERED now you are saying that I am denying what you never said?
Go and Learn how to read.

As for mystery Babylon... that has been disproved and rebutted more times than I can count... And I bet you don't know the origin of that accusation too.. you just picked it up and your church has told you many funny things ...

LEARN HOW TO ACCEPT DEFEAT WITH HUMILITY AND STOP MOVING FROM ONE ACCUSATION TO THE OTHER WHEN YOU LOSE AN ARGUMENT...

easymancfc:
According to who?? Seventh Day Adventist... I laugh in Swahili...

easymancfc:
According to who?? Seventh Day Adventist... I laugh in Swahili...

easymancfc:
Because Historical sources like encyclopedia Britannica and Wikipedia and Prestigious Academic institutions have verified them...
Secondly.. Non Catholic and even anti catholic Christian who have good knowledge of history agree...

here are some examples
https://www.gci.org/law/sabbath/hanson

www.bible.ca/7-history-sabbath.htm

There are many more..
Note all of these guys are as anti Catholic as the Adventists..

Proudgorgeousga:
how?

easymancfc:
Amen.. It was lawful for the Jews to keep the Sabbath in the old covenant, the new covenant had not been established yet with Christ death on the Cross.. The Purpose of the Sabbath would be fulfilled in the New covenant with the LORD'S DAY..


Jesus was talking about the awful horror and He used the Sabbath because they were still familiar with it.. the concept of the Lord's day had not being established yet...


Amen.. they kept the Sabbath as good Jews as the law commanded.. The new covenant day of rest (THE RESURRECTION (LORD'S DAY) had come yet so they are right to do that..



Amen.. the Holy Spirit called the Sabbath day because that's what it is known as to the Jews.. As a Jew Paul went to the synagogue because his fellow Jews gathered there on the Sabbath, to evangelize them...

The Sabbath remained the Sabbath for the Jews, it still had its significance to them... Paul as a Jew or anyone familiar with it can call It the Sabbath, the thing is For Christians, The Spiritual significance of the Sabbath moved to the LORDS DAY (THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK)...
(see acts 2:42, 20:7,)


Amen.. Again.. the Sabbath is the name given to the seventh day, but the spiritual importance of the Sabbath has been fulfilled for Christians on the Lord's day..


On that day he went to the Thessalonica and visited the Jewish synagogue there to evangelize them.. see acts 17:1


His custom was to seek out the Jews in every town he entered and preach Jesus to them.. and the time he could get them all in one place was on the Sabbath...


And in every case he goes to the synagogue because the Jews gathered on that day except in chapter 13 where he went to the river where prayer was to be made..

NO ITS NOT... There was no dispute because the Jews kept the Sabbath.. the Gentile Christians kept the Lord's day (acts 20:7, 1 cor 16:2).. Some christian Jews out of fear of being cut off attended temple also in addition to keeping the Lord's day.... So there was no dispute... Judaism is not Christianity so Christians or Jews don't need to dispute their day of worship.. if you chose to be a Jew and reject the new covenant day of rest then that's left for you...


Paul being a good Jew went to the temple on the Sabbath to preach Jesus to his fellow Jews.. since they could see him in the temple on the sabbath he kept it to them... But as a Christian he knew the spiritual significance of the Sabbath was fulfilled in Jesus on the day of the Resurrection.. the Lord's day.. Besides that.. We don't find any command from Paul to the Gentiles to keep the Sabbath, they all kept the Lord's day...


Paul was a good citizen.. so he obeyed the rules.. it does not mean that all Christians should keep the Sabbath because Paul a good Jew did.. There's no place in his epistles where he commanded or admonished gentile believers to keep the Sabbath.. but biblically they kept the Lord's day.... see acts 20:7, 1 cor 16:2, rev 1:10)


This doesn't prove anything... the new testament mentions a lot of things a lot of times.. does the new testament command gentile Christians to keep the Sabbath...
col 2:16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:17which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

so unlike the Jews the Christians kept the Day of Christ.. the Lord's day as a fulfilment of the Sabbath obligation...


The Sabbath was not changed.. it was fulfilled in Jesus Christ's resurrection on the Lords Day... So Jesus is the essence... see col 2:16..

Jewish Christians yes.. but not gentile Christians that command was never given to them...


As Paul said in 1 cor 15, It is Christ's ressurrection that makes Christianity what it is.. and that moment of significance happened on the first day of the week and Christians gathered on that day...
THE REST FROM SIN IS THE ULTIMATE REST MAN HAS.. AND IT WAS ACHIEVED AT THE RESURRECTION ON THE LORD'S DAY.. FULFILLING THE PURPOSE OF THE SABBATH..


thanks but I will stick to the Historic and general interpretation of scripture and the testimony of the early Christians....

easymancfc:
I will go with historical Christianity than with the latter Day Adventist church..
here's what some early Christians had to say on the matter
The Didache
"But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas​​​​​​​
"We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]). ​​​​​​​

Ignatius of Antioch​​​​​​​

"[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Justin Martyr​​​​​​​
"[W]e too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined [on] you—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your heart. . . . [H]ow is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us—I speak of fleshly circumcision and Sabbaths and feasts? . . . God enjoined you to keep the Sabbath, and imposed on you other precepts for a sign, as I have already said, on account of your unrighteousness and that of your fathers . . ." (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 18, 21 [A.D. 155]).

"But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

Tertullian​​​​​​​
"[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God" (An Answer to the Jews 2 [A.D. 203]).

701ecilana:
Yeah? Do you think by saying you don't worship Mary and the dead saints will really mean you dont?
I was a Catholic and i said the exact same thing you are saying now.

easymancfc:
Yes ... because you don't know what the church really taught...
I know that I don't worship Mary and the Saints because worship is an act of the WILL, if you did then you were a Heretic and an idolater.. and the Church condemns such..

701ecilana:
You claim i lacked comprehension yet you responded to my posts accordingly.

You people have a way of trying to wriggle things your way. It just like Islam trying to fix Muhammed into the Bible.

Sir, believe it or not, Catholicism began after the Roman Empire adopted the Church as a state religion and thought it could hijack the power and manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

And did these so called Church fathers also worshipped Mary and the dead Saints?

Listen, The Bible stands true and whatever is not recorded in it is a lie. When Christ comes we shall stand before him to recieve our rewards, be they good or bad. But believe me, the Bible shall be the hardstick for judgement.

Am done going back and forth with this.

Let's wait for Jesus.

701ecilana:
My dear, the same thing the Muslims are doing.

easymancfc:
Historical Christianity as well as Protestant, Pentecostal and Evangelical Christians believe according to the Bible that Christians worshiped on Sunday.. not on the sabbath.. THAT IS AN ADVENTIST LIE

Can you provide historical OR BIBLICAL EVIDENCE THAT CHRISTIANS WORSHIPPED GOD ON SABBATH SPECIFICALLY OR SEQUENTIALLY,

Proudgorgeousga:
do you keep the Sabbath and how?

blackweaver:
No I'm not an atheist, but at the same time, I believe in using my head instead of swallowing things without analysing for myself

blackweaver:
No I'm not an atheist, but at the same time, I believe in using my head instead of swallowing things without analysing for myself