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easymancfc:
YEAH... THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH RIGHT... EVERYTHING BECOMING NEW RIGHT?

WRONG....

Heaven and Earth will definitely be renewed but we will still be there... albeit transformed... So too will the Lake of fire still be there... HELL, HADES (DEATH) WILL BE THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE WHICH WILL STILL BE THERE AFTER THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE NEW EARTH...

YOU'RE RIGHT REV 21: 1-4 TALKS ABOUT A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH... BUT JUST 4 VERSES LATER IN REV 21:8 STILL TALKS ABOUT SINNERS IN THE LAKE OF FIRE

REV 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the LAKE which burneth with FIRE and brimstone:

SO NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH DOESNT AFFECT SINNERS BEING IN THE LAKE OF FIRE WHERE THE DEVIL IS ALSO AND THEY WILL BE TORMENTED "FOREVER AND EVER"

rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented DAY AND NIGHT FOREVER AND EVER.

Scientist has estimated the age of the Universe to be over 13 billion years old,which is like 0.1% fraction of eternity.

God does not have a begining or end which means God is far older than 13billion yrs and would continue to exist indefinately.
Now you and your doctrine are assuming that God would burn people in Hellfire for more than 13billion yrs and beyond. This is gulliable.God cannot be more heartless than man.
What would God gain by burning people for eternity becos of a sinful life of max 200yrs

Where is the Justice which God is known for.
show where it is written that the Soul is immortal or goes to Hellfire rather than the body.

easymancfc:
YEAH... THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH RIGHT... EVERYTHING BECOMING NEW RIGHT?

WRONG....

Heaven and Earth will definitely be renewed but we will still be there... albeit transformed... So too will the Lake of fire still be there... HELL, HADES (DEATH) WILL BE THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE WHICH WILL STILL BE THERE AFTER THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE NEW EARTH...

YOU'RE RIGHT REV 21: 1-4 TALKS ABOUT A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH... BUT JUST 4 VERSES LATER IN REV 21:8 STILL TALKS ABOUT SINNERS IN THE LAKE OF FIRE

REV 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the LAKE which burneth with FIRE and brimstone:

SO NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH DOESNT AFFECT SINNERS BEING IN THE LAKE OF FIRE WHERE THE DEVIL IS ALSO AND THEY WILL BE TORMENTED "FOREVER AND EVER"

rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented DAY AND NIGHT FOREVER AND EVER.

The book of Revelation was not written in
Chronological order.

easymancfc:
You' re right... HELL WHICH EVER IT IS IS NOT UNENDING BUT THE LAKE OF FIRE IS

rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Psalms 37:10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.

uvalued:
are you also not influenced by the whiteman?

I never said was not influenced by them.

easymancfc:
You' re right... HELL WHICH EVER IT IS IS NOT UNENDING BUT THE LAKE OF FIRE IS

rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Asusual twisting bible verses to suit your fantasy.destruction of the sinners means total destruction stop twisting its meaning.

Isaiah 1:28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed. Isaiah 10:25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction. Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 1 Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition

easymancfc:
Annihilationalism another heresy...

Immortality is a gift of God... I have already answer you 1 tim 6 objection...

Jesus promises that those who believe in him shall never die... (john 11:26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?)...

So atleast the righteous according to your beliefs will have eternal life/immortality right?

The tree of life in Genesis 3 is immortality in the sense that Man would not die the physical death... ALL MEN DIE THE PHYSICAL DEATH.... SAVED OR UNSAVED

ALL THE PASSAGES IN THE PSALMS YOU TALK ABOUT EITHER REFER TO PHYSICAL DEATH PRIMARILY,

ROMANS 6:23 TALKS ABOUT THE SECOND DEATH WHICH NO WHERE MENTIONS "DESTRUCTION"

LASTLY... DOES DESTRUCTION ALWAYS MEAN ANNIHILATION OR OBLITERATION ?? NOT ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE...

heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might DESTROY him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

WAS THE DEVIL ANNIHILATED AFTER JESUS' DEATH AND RESURRECTION NO....

WHAT ABOUT CUT OFF??
TO CUT OFF MEANS TO CAST OUT
Exodus 12:19
'Seven days there shall be no leaven
found in your houses; for whoever eats
what is leavened, that person shall be
cut off from the congregation of Israel,
whether he is an alien or a native of the
land.

Leviticus 7:27
'Any person who eats any blood, even
that person shall be cut off from his
people.'"

TO CUT OFF MEANS TO CAST OUT ALSO... NOT ONLY TO ANNIHILATE...

TO BE SLAIN MEANS TO BE KILLED BODILY ALSO... NOT NECESSARILY FOR THEM TO CEASE EXISTENCE... GOOD PEOPLE WERE ALSO SLAIN.. THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY CEASE TO EXIST

JESUS WAS SLAIN

luke 9:22 saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be SLAIN,

acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and SLAIN:

acts 13:28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be SLAIN...

MARTYRS WERE ALSO SLAIN see rev 2:13, 6:9 etc
SO "DESTROY", "SLAIN", "CUT OFF" DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN ANNIHILATION..

Asusual twisting bible verses to suit your fantasy.destruction of the sinners means total destruction stop twisting its meaning.

Isaiah 1:28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed. Isaiah 10:25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction. Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 1 Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition

easymancfc:
So the wicked being tormented "for ever" means a limited period of time but the righteous reward is Unending right or the glory and power and dominion and reign of God is also unending right

YOU'RE RIGHT FOREVER CAN MEAN A PERIOD OF "UNLIMITED TIME " BECAUSE FOR US IT HAS A BEGINNING BUT NO END...

IF YOUR THEORY IS RIGHT THEN THE ETERNAL REWARD OR HEAVEN MUST ALSO COME TO AN END WOULDN'T IT
psalm 37: 18 The Lord knoweth the days of the upright:
and their inheritance shall be for ever.

MEANING THEY SHALL LOSE THEIR INHERITANCE ONE DAY

Psalm 146:10
The LORD will reign forever, Your God, O
Zion, to all generations. Praise the
LORD!

Exodus 15:18
"The LORD shall reign forever and ever."
THE LORDS REIGN WILL END EVENTUALLY SINCE FOREVER HAS AN END??

Psalm 10:16
The LORD is King forever and ever;
Nations have perished from His land.

THE LORD WILL NO LONGER BE KING AT SOME POINT IN TIME??

OR GOD'S GLORY OR DOMINION OR POWER OR REIGN ETC WILL ALSO COME TO AN END.... NOT JUST THE PUNISHMENT SINCE FOREVER HAS SN END??

IF YOU INTERPRET FOREVER DIFFERENTLY FOR GOD AND THE SAVED FROM THE UNSAVED TELL ME WHY...

Forever.
Using your logic of the word forever this Bible verses contradict God's character and Bible
Psalms 103:9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.
Psalms 103:9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever. Jeremiah 3:12 Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the LORD; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever.

Psalms 103:9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever. Jeremiah 3:12 Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the LORD; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever. Micah 7:18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

1 Chronicles 16:41 And with them Heman and Jeduthun, and the rest that were chosen, who were expressed by name, to give thanks to the LORD, because his mercy endureth for ever;

1 Chronicles 16:41 And with them Heman and Jeduthun, and the rest that were chosen, who were expressed by name, to give thanks to the LORD, because his mercy endureth for ever; 2 Chronicles 7:3

We all know what mercy means. It means unwillingly to punish or willingly to pardon. Now if the Mercy of God endureth forever than Hellfire would never have existed secondly if God does not hold anger forever than Hellfire cannot exist forever. Moral of the lesson is forever most be understood based on the context in which it is applied.

easymancfc:
Annihilationalism another heresy...

Immortality is a gift of God... I have already answer you 1 tim 6 objection...

Jesus promises that those who believe in him shall never die... (john 11:26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?)...

So atleast the righteous according to your beliefs will have eternal life/immortality right?

The tree of life in Genesis 3 is immortality in the sense that Man would not die the physical death... ALL MEN DIE THE PHYSICAL DEATH.... SAVED OR UNSAVED

ALL THE PASSAGES IN THE PSALMS YOU TALK ABOUT EITHER REFER TO PHYSICAL DEATH PRIMARILY,

ROMANS 6:23 TALKS ABOUT THE SECOND DEATH WHICH NO WHERE MENTIONS "DESTRUCTION"

LASTLY... DOES DESTRUCTION ALWAYS MEAN ANNIHILATION OR OBLITERATION ?? NOT ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE...

heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might DESTROY him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

WAS THE DEVIL ANNIHILATED AFTER JESUS' DEATH AND RESURRECTION NO....

WHAT ABOUT CUT OFF??
TO CUT OFF MEANS TO CAST OUT
Exodus 12:19
'Seven days there shall be no leaven
found in your houses; for whoever eats
what is leavened, that person shall be
cut off from the congregation of Israel,
whether he is an alien or a native of the
land.

Leviticus 7:27
'Any person who eats any blood, even
that person shall be cut off from his
people.'"

TO CUT OFF MEANS TO CAST OUT ALSO... NOT ONLY TO ANNIHILATE...

TO BE SLAIN MEANS TO BE KILLED BODILY ALSO... NOT NECESSARILY FOR THEM TO CEASE EXISTENCE... GOOD PEOPLE WERE ALSO SLAIN.. THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY CEASE TO EXIST

JESUS WAS SLAIN

luke 9:22 saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be SLAIN,

acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and SLAIN:

acts 13:28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be SLAIN...

MARTYRS WERE ALSO SLAIN see rev 2:13, 6:9 etc
SO "DESTROY", "SLAIN", "CUT OFF" DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN ANNIHILATION..

Asusual twisting bible verses to suit your fantasy.destruction of the sinners means total destruction stop twisting its meaning.

Isaiah 1:28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed. Isaiah 10:25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction. Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 1 Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

easymancfc:
So the wicked being tormented "for ever" means a limited period of time but the righteous reward is Unending right or the glory and power and dominion and reign of God is also unending right

YOU'RE RIGHT FOREVER CAN MEAN A PERIOD OF "UNLIMITED TIME " BECAUSE FOR US IT HAS A BEGINNING BUT NO END...

IF YOUR THEORY IS RIGHT THEN THE ETERNAL REWARD OR HEAVEN MUST ALSO COME TO AN END WOULDN'T IT
psalm 37: 18 The Lord knoweth the days of the upright:
and their inheritance shall be for ever.

MEANING THEY SHALL LOSE THEIR INHERITANCE ONE DAY

Psalm 146:10
The LORD will reign forever, Your God, O
Zion, to all generations. Praise the
LORD!

Exodus 15:18
"The LORD shall reign forever and ever."
THE LORDS REIGN WILL END EVENTUALLY SINCE FOREVER HAS AN END??

Psalm 10:16
The LORD is King forever and ever;
Nations have perished from His land.

THE LORD WILL NO LONGER BE KING AT SOME POINT IN TIME??

OR GOD'S GLORY OR DOMINION OR POWER OR REIGN ETC WILL ALSO COME TO AN END.... NOT JUST THE PUNISHMENT SINCE FOREVER HAS SN END??

IF YOU INTERPRET FOREVER DIFFERENTLY FOR GOD AND THE SAVED FROM THE UNSAVED TELL ME WHY...

God is immortal only him has immortality no where in the Bible is immortality used in describing any man,angel,or the Devil.
When Christ comes the second time the dead in christ will be ressurected and be transformed paul calls it putting on immortality, 1 Corinthians 15:53,
1 Thessalonians 4:17
while the righteous who are alive at that moment are also transformed.when the word forever is used to describe God and the saints after there resurrection it means life without end becos they have immortality. God has immortality inherently, while the saints obtain it from Jesus.
but the Sinners and the Devil have no immortality a look at the ressurection of the sinners which occur 1000yrs after the ressurection of the Saints does not say that they are transformed or given immortality so which means they can die.
This ressurection proves that what goes to Heaven or Hell is the full living human body which consist of body and the spirit of God an that union is called a Soul. That is what Jesus meant by destorying body and Soul in Hell.

easymancfc:
1. It only mentions angels... it doesn't add those that where not faithful... by their nature... they cannot die... besides YOU HAVE ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT ATLEAST GOOD ANGELS LIVE ETERNALLY MEANING ATLEAST THE SAVED WILL ALSO LIVE ETERNALLY...

Your comprehension skill is laughable.

Luke 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Even a 7years old child knows that Jesus is referring to the angels in Heaven.

If the angels cannot die than they are equal to God, mind you God knows the end of a thing from the begining so while would God create angels he cannot destory knowing they would rebel against him.

Brownbarbie97:
The white man imposed religion(Christianity) on us to make us subservient, docile and "more tolerable" and it worked.
Now I'm a Christian,don't get me wrong but Christianity and religion as a whole is one of the reasons Africa is as backward as it is because Africans being the highly superstitious beings that we are over abuse these religions which is why we can't think and act but pray to our God to solve even the slightest problems.
Now back to the topic,as holy as he was,the name "JESUS" is really just a name which is why so many Latin Americans and the rest bear that name.They see nothing wrong in giving their kids such names but over here where we are so religiously inclined it is perceived as a taboo. These pple that brought us religion are more liberal and neutral about it than we the recipients.
Talk about being more holy than the pope,ha!

The dumbest post i have ever seen.
The same whiteman has influenced you more than your parents has ever done.

sar33:
International president Jewish voice ministries,Rabbi Jonathan Bernis and his team storm Nnewi to present confirmatory and DNA tests on the claims that the Igbo's are of Israel descent.

They were received by the chairman Caretaker committee, Nnewi North ,Prince Chukwudi Orizu, at Messianic Faith Assembly, Uruagu Nnewi.

Ngozi Obileri reports that this is their fourth visit to Anambra state in their quest to find the lost children of Israel.

According to the DNA result, it has been scientifically proven that the igbos are from Israel, from the clan of Gad precisely.



Source:http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/08/international-president-jewish-voice.html?m=1

Laughable the biggest Scam of the century.
Dreamers.

LightandDarkness:
Dream 1. Your friend might have unconsciously felt his neck swelling up or felt pain around his neck. His brain took this and made it into a dream. Sometimes when I am sleeping and it gets cold I have dreams that involve feeling cold.

Dream 2: If he had a dream about the future how come he couldn't then prevent it? Does that make sense?

Dream 3: Pure coincidence, a simple dream about his daughter walking suddenly signifies death. Any number of dreams could signify the same thing like a dream where she actually died. In addition the dream itself could be about any number of things. His daughter walking, his daughter getting kidnapped etc. In short your idea is because a father had a very normal dream about his daughter and something happened to her it was a dream about the future, and I feel you would come to this conclusion regardless of what the event that happened to his daughter was, when it happened, and whether is was positive or negative

It is obvious you are Naive. if you had experience of occultism or diabolism you would not be an atheists.

Am done with this argument ,I would not waste my time on some naive atheists till you growup and learn.

uvalued:
i dislie the saying white man is africa's reason for backwardness. stop using what the whiteman has imposed on you such as te internet ...blaming instead of using your God given brain to cause growth...keep living in the past...by disconnecting from the internet....

Are that Dumb that you cannot realise that the Whiteman has influenced you more than your parents.

LightandDarkness:
Dream 1. Your friend might have unconsciously felt his neck swelling up or felt pain around his neck. His brain took this and made it into a dream. Sometimes when I am sleeping and it gets cold I have dreams that involve feeling cold.

Dream 2: If he had a dream about the future how come he couldn't then prevent it? Does that make sense?

Dream 3: Pure coincidence, a simple dream about his daughter walking suddenly signifies death. Any number of dreams could signify the same thing like a dream where she actually died. In addition the dream itself could be about any number of things. His daughter walking, his daughter getting kidnapped etc. In short your idea is because a father had a very normal dream about his daughter and something happened to her it was a dream about the future, and I feel you would come to this conclusion regardless of what the event that happened to his daughter was, when it happened, and whether is was positive or negative

Pathetic excuse.
You are doing the same thing you accuse christains of, you are just guessing.

Like i said the Man had none of those forethoughts. secondly this type of dreams don't occur often but when they occur they come to past.

easymancfc:
It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

The Bible talks about the Second death in the Book of Revelation.
Also the book of revelation talks about Hell(grave) and death been cast into the lake of fire.

easymancfc:
It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

. But the Bible speaks of the wicked being
tormented "forever," doesn't it?
The term "for ever," as used in the Bible, means
simply a period of time, limited or unlimited. It is
used 56 times in the Bible in connection with
things that have already ended. (To check in a
concordance, look up the word "ever." It is like
the word "tall," which means something different
in describing men, trees, or mountains. In Jonah
2:6, "for ever" means "three days and
nights." (See also Jonah 1:17.) In Deuteronomy
23:3, this means "10 generations." In the case of
man, this means "as long as he lives" or "until
death." (See 1 Samuel 1:22, 28; Exodus 21:6;
Psalms 48:14.) So the wicked will burn in the fire
as long as they live, or until death. This fiery
punishment for sin will vary according to the
degree of sins for each individual, but after the
punishment, the fire will go out. The teaching of
eternal torment has done more to drive people to
atheism and insanity than any other invention of
the devil. It is slander upon the loving character
of a tender, gracious heavenly Father and has
done untold harm to the Christian cause.

easymancfc:
It seems if you cant refute an argument you accuse the person of twisting scripture... Who gave you the authority to accuse someone of twisting scripture??
Are you the sole interpreter??
Answer the simple question then..
You said forever or eternal doesnt mean unending... now all those passages relating to God having glory and dominion and power and kingship forever and ever or eternally..

IF FOR YOU ETERNAL OR FOREVER DOESNT MEAN UNENDING THEN WILL GOD'S DOMINION OR POWER OR GLORY OR REIGN COME TO AN END

IF NOT.. WHY DO YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY FROM ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (mat 25:46) OR THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT RISING FOREVER AND EVER (rev 14: 11)

i await your response

Then why does the Bible say that the wicked
will be destroyed with unquenchable fire?
Unquenchable fire is fire that cannot be put out,
but which goes out when it has turned everything
to ashes. Jeremiah 17:27 says Jerusalem was to
be destroyed with unquenchable fire, and in 2
Chronicles 36:19-21 the Bible says this fire
burned the city "to fulfill the word of the Lord by
the mouth of Jeremiah" and left it desolate. Yet we
know this fire went out, because Jerusalem is not
burning today.
3. Doesn't Matthew 25:46 say the wicked will
receive "everlasting punishment"?
Notice the word is punishment, not punishing.
Punishing would be continuous, while
punishment is one act. The punishment of the
wicked is death, and this death is everlasting.
4. Can you explain Matthew 10:28: "Fear not
them which kill the body, but are not able to
kill the soul"?
The word "soul" has three meanings in the Bible:
(1) a living being—Genesis 2:7, (2) the mind—
Psalms 139:14, and (3) life—1 Samuel 18:1,
which here refers to eternal life that God
guarantees all who reach His kingdom. No one
can take this away. The last part of Matthew 10:28
says both soul and body will be destroyed in
hell.

easymancfc:
It seems if you cant refute an argument you accuse the person of twisting scripture... Who gave you the authority to accuse someone of twisting scripture??
Are you the sole interpreter??
Answer the simple question then..
You said forever or eternal doesnt mean unending... now all those passages relating to God having glory and dominion and power and kingship forever and ever or eternally..

IF FOR YOU ETERNAL OR FOREVER DOESNT MEAN UNENDING THEN WILL GOD'S DOMINION OR POWER OR GLORY OR REIGN COME TO AN END

IF NOT.. WHY DO YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY FROM ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (mat 25:46) OR THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT RISING FOREVER AND EVER (rev 14: 11)

i await your response

Does the word "hell" as used in the Bible
always refer to a place of burning or
punishment?
Answer: No, the word "hell" is used 54 times in
the Bible, and in only 12 cases does it refer to "a
place of burning."
The word "hell" is translated from several
different words with various meanings, as
indicated below:
IN THE OLD
TESTAMENT
31 times from "Sheol,"
which means the grave."
IN THE NEW
TESTAMENT
10 times from "Hades,"
which means "the
grave."
12 times from
"Gehenna," which
means "the place of
burning."
1 time from "Tartarus,"
which means "a place of
darkness."
54 TIMES TOTAL
Note: The Greek word "Gehenna" (mentioned
above) is a transliteration of the Hebrew "Ge-
Hinnom," which means the "Valley of Hinnom."
This valley, which lies immediately south and
west of Jerusalem, was a place where dead
animals, garbage, and other refuse were dumped.
Fire burned constantly, as it does at modern
sanitation dump sites. The Bible uses "Gehenna"
or the "Valley of Hinnom" as a symbol of the fire
that will destroy the lost at the end of time. The
fire of Gehenna was not unending. Otherwise it
would be still burning southwest of Jerusalem
today. Neither will the fire of hell be unending.
Destroying sin, sinners, and Satan

easymancfc:
It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

10. What will be left when the fire goes out?
"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as
an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do
wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that
cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of
hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor
branch." "And ye shall tread down the wicked; for
they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in
the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of
hosts." Malachi 4:1, 3.
Answer: Notice the verse does not say the wicked
will burn like asbestos, as many today believe,
but rather like stubble, which will be burned up.
The little word "up" denotes completion. Nothing
but ashes will be left when the fire goes out. In
Psalms 37:10, 20, the Bible says the wicked will
go up in smoke and be completely destroyed.

easymancfc:
It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

. Will the fire eventually go out?
"Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall
burn them; they shall not deliver themselves
from the power of the flame: there shall not be a
coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it." Isaiah
47:14. "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth."
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their
eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither
sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any
more pain: for the former things are passed
away." Revelation 21:1, 4.
Answer: Yes, indeed, the Bible specifically
teaches that hellfire will go out and that there will
not be left "a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit
before it." The Bible also teaches that in God's
new kingdom all "former things" will be passed
away. Hell, being one of the former things, is
included, so we have God's promise that it will be
abolished.

easymancfc:
It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

All this Bible verses below talks about the total destruction of the Sinners and not an eternal Hell fire.

The wicked die the second death in
hellfire. If the wicked lived forever being tortured
in hell, they would be immortal. But this is
impossible, because the Bible says God "only
hath immortality." 1 Timothy 6:16. When Adam
and Eve were driven from the Garden of Eden, an
angel was posted to guard the tree of life so that
sinners would not eat of the tree and "live for
ever." Genesis 3:22-24. The teaching that sinners
are immortal in hell originated with Satan and is
completely untrue. God prevented this when sin
entered this earth by guarding the tree of life.
Bible Clear - Wicked Obliterated
The Bible says the wicked suffer "death" (Romans
6:23), will suffer "destruction" (Job 21:30), "shall
perish" (Psalms 37:20), will "burn" up (Malachi
4:1), "shall be destroyed together" (Psalms 37:38)
, will "consume away" (Psalms 37:20), "shall be
cut off" (Psalms 37:9), "shall be slain" (Psalms
62:3). God will "destroy" them (Psalms 145:20),
and "fire shall devour them" (Psalms 21:9). Note
that all of these references make it clear that the wicked die and are destroyed. They do not live forever in misery.

easymancfc:
It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

Jesus meant the Angels who where loyal to God. God cannot contradict himself in Ezekiel 28:1-end the God said he will destory Satan and turn him to Ashes.

As usual you only pick Bible verses that support your doctrine while ingnoring other bible verses.
The Bible is better understood when all verses relating to a particular issue is read and rationailized.

Horlufemi:
Evolution is a lot like larmacks theory, it belongs in the dustbin.

The reigns of atheism is evolution

It takes more faith to believe in Evolution than in God.

I tried and tried to believe evolution but I couldn't find myself believing in it. That's was the beginning of my faith in a creator.

I concur 100%.

obinna58:
Then why defending what u don't know

He told me he didn't.

Niyeal:
I'm an evolutionist

This article has just exposed Evolution.

[quote author=obinna58 post=59147837]the man told you he never had any after thoughts?




No he didn't.

easymancfc:
So if i or any other christian quotes the bible as our authority.. we are twisting it... but the adventist church always interprets it correctly right?

1. I never told you that the devil would be destroyed.... while sinners would suffer eternally...
the devil was an angel (lucifer) and ANGELS CANNOT DIE as Jesus said in luke 20: 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection..
The devil and sinners will suffer together as the bible says in mat 25:41, rev 14:11, Rev 20:10 etc which are quoted below..

2. The second death is not annihilation as your church wrongly teach.. it is also called the LAKE OF FIRE... BUT IT NO WHERE MENTIONS THAT EXISTENCE CEASES THERE...

Rev 21: 8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the LAKE that burns with FIRE and brimstone, WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH .”

Rev20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH, THE LAKE OF FIRE; 15 and if any one’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE.
So the Bible calls the "LAKE OF FIRE" THE SECOND DEATH...

AND THAT'S WHERE THE DEVIL AND ALL SINNERS WILL BE.. AND THEY WILL BE TORMENTED THEIR FOREVER AND EVER...
Matthew 25:41
"Then He will also say to those on His
left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones,
into the ETERNAL FIRE WHICH HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS;
rev 20:10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOREVER AND EVER.

IT DOESNT MENTION ANNIHILATION OR THAT THEY WILL CEASE TO EXIST...

and it agrees with the rest of the bible...
ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (mat 25:31-46, Daniel 12:2)

Dan 12:2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to EVERLASTING LIFE, and some to shame and EVERLASTING CONTEMPT.

mat 25: 46 And they will go away into ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, but the righteous into ETERNAL LIFE .”
more bible passages for you to ponder
mark 9:43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go to hell, to the UNQUENCHABLE fire.
48 where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.

Hebrews 6:2
of instruction about washings and laying
on of hands, and the resurrection of the
dead and ETERNAL JUDGEMENT .


ETERNAL = EVERLASTING = UNENDING = FOREVER AND EVER..

HOW CAN THE PUNISHMENT OR REWARD BE ETERNAL IF THOSE WHO ARE REWARDED OR PUNISHED ARE NOT

Where is it written that angels cannot die?

25 REASONS TO DOUBT THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION. (With acknowledgement to Dr. Walt
Brown, Center for Scientific Creation)
**************************
* 1. It is an established scientific fact that life cannot
originate from non-living matter (the Law of Biogenesis).

*2. The chemical evolution of life is impossible. No scientist has ever advanced a testable procedure by which this could occur.The Miller- Urey experiment, still shown in many
current textbooks, has been proven to be irrelevant.

*3. Mendel's Laws of Genetics limit the variations in a species. Different combinations of
genes are formed, but not different genes. Breeding experiments and common observations have also confirmed that genetic boundaries exist.

*4. Acquired characteristics cannot be inherited. For example, the long necks of giraffes did not result from their ancestors stretching.their necks to reach high leaves, nor does a man in a weight- lifting program pass his well- developed muscles on to his child. No
mechanism exists whereby the altered behavior of an organism, in an attempt to adapt to its
environment, will produce a genetic change in its offspring.

* 5. Genetic mutations have never made a creature more viable than its ancestors. Mutations are almost always harmful, and many are lethal. More than 90 years of fruit fly experiments, involving 3,000 successive generations, give absolutely no basis for believing that any natural or artificial process can cause an increase in complexity and viability. "A mutation is a random change of a highly organized, reasonably smoothly functioning living body. A random change in the highly
integrated system of chemical processes which constitute life is almost certain to impair it - just
as the random interchange of connections in a television set is not likely to improve the picture."James F. Crow ( past Professor of Genetics, University of Wisconsin)

*6. Natural selection (or
"survival of the fittest" actually prevents evolutionary change, it does not encourage it. Since mutations almost always contribute to a decrease in viability (survivability) , the mutated animal quickly becomes part of the food chain.

*7.Mutations cannot produce complex organs such
as the eye, the ear, or the brain, much less the intricacy of design found in microbiological
organisms. These organs are not even imaginable, much less viable in a partially
developed state. The principle of "irreducible complexity" demonstrates that a wide range of component parts and technologies must be
simultaneously existent for these organs to function. In a partially developed state, they
would become a liability to an organism, not an advantage. Moreover, most complex organs have interdependent relationships with other complex
organs which enable proper functioning. These relationships must also be simultaneously
existent.

*8. The most complex phenomena known to science are found in living systems. Detailed studies of various animals have also revealed
physical equipment and capabilities that cannot
even be copied by the world's best designers using the most sophisticated technologies.
Examples include the miniature and reliable sonar systems of dolphins, porpoises and
whales; the frequency-modulated radar and
discrimination system of bats; the aerodynamic capabilities and efficiency of the hummingbird;
the control systems, internal ballistics and combustion chamber of the bombardier beetle; the precise and redundant navigational system of
the arctic tern; and the self-repair capabilities of
practically all forms of life. All evidence points to "intelligent design," not random processes.

*9. All living species are fully developed, and their organs are fully developed. There are no living lizards with scale-feathers, leg-wings, or 3-chambered hearts. If evolutionary processes were the norm, these intermediate forms of
development should be observable throughout nature. Instead, they are non-existent.

*10. All living creatures are divided into distinct types.
There should be a myriad of transitional, un-classifiable creatures if evolution was the norm.There is no direct evidence that any major group
of animals or plants arose from any other major
group.

*11. Created kind are only observed going into extinction, never coming into existence. 12.
The fossil record contains no transitional forms of animals, only extinct forms. The fossil record has been studied so thoroughly that it is safe to
conclude that the alleged "gaps" or "missing links" will never be found.

*13. The so-called "evolutionary tree" has no trunk. In the earliest
part of the fossil record (generally the Cambrian
sedimentary layer), life appears suddenly, complex, diversified and fully developed.

*14.Insects have no known evolutionary ancestors.

*15. Many different forms of life are completely dependent upon each other (symbiotic
relationships). Even members of the honeybee family, consisting of the queen, workers, and
drones, are interdependent. If one member of each interdependent group evolved first, it could not have survived. Since all members of these
groups have survived, they must have come into existence simultaneously. The only possible
answer for their existence is "intelligent design".

*16. It is impossible to conceive of an evolutionary process that results in sexual
reproduction. Complementary male and female systems must have completely and independently evolved at each stage at the exact same time and
place. The millions of mechanical and chemical
processes, as well as behavioral patterns and physical characteristics, would all need to be compatible. Even leading evolutionists admit they
cannot explain this.

*17. Human speech and
languages did not evolve - in fact the best evidence is that languages "devolve". Speech is
uniquely human. Furthermore, studies of 36 documented cases of children raised without
human contact show that speech appears to be learned only from other humans. Apparently,
humans do not automatically speak. If so, the first humans must have been endowed with a
speaking ability (intelligent input). There is no evidence that speech has evolved.

*18. Codes and programs (DNA and the genetic code) are
produced only by intelligence. No natural process has ever been observed to produce a
program.

*19.The existence of similarities
between different forms of life implies a common designer, not a common ancestor. One would
not, for example, assume that a submarine evolved into an "amphibious" seaplane, which in
turn evolved into a passenger airliner. All might have common features such as propellers,
internal combustion engines, and metal frameworks - but this is simply an indication of a
common intelligent designer (man), not a common ancestor (the submarine).

*20. Many single-celled forms of life exist, but there are no
known forms of animal life with 2, 3, 4 or 5 cells,
and the forms of life with 6 to 20 cells are parasites. If evolution occurred, one should find many forms of life with 2 to 20 cells as transitional forms between one-celled and many-
celled organisms.

*21.As an embryo develops, it
does not repeat an evolutionary sequence. Although it is widely known that Ernst Haeckel,
who popularized this belief, deliberately falsified
his drawings, they are still used in current biology textbooks.

*22. No verified form of
extraterrestrial life of any kind has ever been observed. If life evolved on Earth, one would
expect that at least simple forms of life, such as microbes, would have been found by the
elaborate experiments sent to the moon and Mars.

*23. Ape-men never existed. It is now acknowledged that "Piltdown man" was a hoax;
the only evidence for "Nebraska man" turned out
to be a pig's tooth; Eugene Bubois conceded forty
years after he discovered "Java man" that it was
just a large gibbon; the skulls of "Peking man" are
now considered by many to be the remains of apes; the classification Homo erectus is
considered by most experts to be a category that should never have been created.

* 24. The earth's
sedimentary layers were deposited rapidly, not
slowly over millions of years. There is no evidence of erosion between layers. The existence
of fossils dictates a sudden deposition of sediments. "Polystrate" fossils (those that span multiple strata) can only be explained by rapid
burial in multiple sedimentary layers that were liquefied or soft at the time. The "millions of
years" assigned to the geological strata and the evolutionary tree is based entirely on unfounded
assumptions.

* 25. Radioactive dating methods are based on a number of untestable assumptions
that produce "old age" results. Past atmospheric conditions, solar activity, volcanic activity, state of the earth's magnetic field, decay rates of
radioactive elements, and other factors are simply unknown. Most dating techniques actually
indicate that the earth is "young", not "old".

www.creationmoments.com/content/25-reasons-
doubt-theory-evolution

Bandeco:
Obviously he needs to. The guys argument lacks depth. He peddles so much ignorance in his bid to defend his myth.

I will take you serious when you refute my argument.

easymancfc:
Eternal doesnt mean undending and you say am twisting sciptures... my friend... free yourself from heresy...
your amazing facts adventist site is not an authority neither...

ETERNAL DOESNT MEAN UNENDING

WHAT DOES IT MEAN THEN??

second death doesnt mean annihiliation

Jesus tells us the fate of the righteous and the Wicked in
mat 25:46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

IF ETERNAL DOESNT MEAN UNENDING THEN HEAVEN FOR THOSE WHO MAKE IT WILL COME TO AN END ONE DAY....

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

I YOU OPINION FOREVER AND EVER WILL HAVE AN END RIGHT..

Revelation 11:15
Then the seventh angel sounded; and
there were loud voices in heaven, saying,
"The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of His
Christ; and He will reign forever and
ever."

Psalm 146:10
The LORD will reign forever, Your God, O
Zion, to all generations. Praise the
LORD!

Psalm 10:16
The LORD is King forever and ever;
Nations have perished from His land.

Daniel 6:26
"I make a decree that in all the dominion
of my kingdom men are to fear and
tremble before the God of Daniel; For He
is the living God and enduring forever,
And His kingdom is one which will not be
destroyed, And His dominion will be
forever.

Micah 4:7
"I will make the lame a remnant And the
outcasts a strong nation, And the LORD
will reign over them in Mount Zion From
now on and forever.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and
glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Peter 5:11
To Him be dominion forever and ever.
Amen.

IF FOREVER AND EVER DOESN'T MEAN UNENDING THEN GOD'S GLORY AND POWER AND DOMINION AND KINGSHIP AND REIGN CANT BE UNENDING ACCORDING TO THESE BIBLE PASSAGES... AND IF YOU THINK IT MEANS UNENDING HERE... THEN WHY DO YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY

here are more verses for you to ponder over

1. "And a second time they said,
"Hallelujah! Her smoke rises up forever
and ever," ( Rev. 19:3 ).
2. "And the devil who deceived them was
thrown into the lake of fire and
brimstone, where the beast and the
false prophet are also; and they will be
tormented day and night forever and
ever," ( Rev. 20:10 ).
3. "to whom be the glory forevermore,
Amen" ( Gal. 1:5 )
4. "Now to our God and Father be the
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( Phil.
4:20 )
5. "Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( 1 Tim.
1:17 ).
6. "The Lord will deliver me from every
evil deed, and will bring me safely to
His heavenly kingdom; to Him be the
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( 2 Tim.
4:18 ).
7. "equip you in every good thing to do
His will, working in us that which is
pleasing in His sight, through Jesus
Christ, to whom be the glory forever
and ever. Amen," ( Heb. 13:21 ).
8. "Whoever speaks, let him speak, as it
were, the utterances of God; whoever
serves, let him do so as by the
strength which God supplies; so that in
all things God may be glorified through
Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the
glory and dominion forever and ever.
Amen," ( 1 Pet. 4:11 ).
9. "and He has made us to be a kingdom,
priests to His God and Father; to Him
be the glory and the dominion forever
and ever. Amen," ( Rev. 1:6 ).
10. "and the living One; and I was dead,
and behold, I am alive forevermore, and
I have the keys of death and of
Hades," ( Rev. 1:18 ).
11. "And when the living creatures give
glory and honor and thanks to Him who
sits on the throne, to Him who lives
forever and ever," ( Rev. 4:9 ).
12. "the twenty-four elders will fall down
before Him who sits on the throne, and
will worship Him who lives forever and
ever, and will cast their crowns before
the throne," ( Rev. 4:10 ).
13. "And every created thing which is in
heaven and on the earth and under the
earth and on the sea, and all things in
them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits
on the throne, and to the Lamb, be
blessing and honor and glory and
dominion forever and ever," ( Rev.
5:13 ).
14. "Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom
and thanksgiving and honor and power
and might, be to our God forever and
ever. Amen," ( Rev. 7:12 ).
15. "and swore by Him who lives forever
and ever, who created heaven and the
things in it, and the earth and the
things in it, and the sea and the things
in it, that there shall be delay no
longer," ( Rev. 10:6 ).
16. "And the seventh angel sounded; and
there arose loud voices in heaven,
saying, 'The kingdom of the world has
become the kingdom of our Lord, and
of His Christ; and He will reign forever
and ever,'" ( Rev. 11:15 ).
17. "And one of the four living creatures
gave to the seven angels seven golden
bowls full of the wrath of God, who
lives forever and ever," ( Rev. 15:7 ).
18. "And there shall no longer be any
night; and they shall not have need of
the light of a lamp nor the light of the
sun, because the Lord God shall
illumine them; and they shall reign
forever and ever," ( Rev. 22:5 ).

I never said the adventist site had any authority. the only authority that is acceptable is the one of the Bible and the Adventist views on there site is backed by real bible verses.Explain to me how the Devil the genesis of evil would be destoryed while sinners would burn for eternity or tell me what the Bible meant when it said sinners will face the second death

easymancfc:
Eternal doesnt mean undending and you say am twisting sciptures... my friend... free yourself from heresy...
your amazing facts adventist site is not an authority neither...

ETERNAL DOESNT MEAN UNENDING

WHAT DOES IT MEAN THEN??

second death doesnt mean annihiliation

Jesus tells us the fate of the righteous and the Wicked in
mat 25:46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

IF ETERNAL DOESNT MEAN UNENDING THEN HEAVEN FOR THOSE WHO MAKE IT WILL COME TO AN END ONE DAY....

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

I YOU OPINION FOREVER AND EVER WILL HAVE AN END RIGHT..

Revelation 11:15
Then the seventh angel sounded; and
there were loud voices in heaven, saying,
"The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of His
Christ; and He will reign forever and
ever."

Psalm 146:10
The LORD will reign forever, Your God, O
Zion, to all generations. Praise the
LORD!

Psalm 10:16
The LORD is King forever and ever;
Nations have perished from His land.

Daniel 6:26
"I make a decree that in all the dominion
of my kingdom men are to fear and
tremble before the God of Daniel; For He
is the living God and enduring forever,
And His kingdom is one which will not be
destroyed, And His dominion will be
forever.

Micah 4:7
"I will make the lame a remnant And the
outcasts a strong nation, And the LORD
will reign over them in Mount Zion From
now on and forever.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and
glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Peter 5:11
To Him be dominion forever and ever.
Amen.

IF FOREVER AND EVER DOESN'T MEAN UNENDING THEN GOD'S GLORY AND POWER AND DOMINION AND KINGSHIP AND REIGN CANT BE UNENDING ACCORDING TO THESE BIBLE PASSAGES... AND IF YOU THINK IT MEANS UNENDING HERE... THEN WHY DO YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY

here are more verses for you to ponder over

1. "And a second time they said,
"Hallelujah! Her smoke rises up forever
and ever," ( Rev. 19:3 ).
2. "And the devil who deceived them was
thrown into the lake of fire and
brimstone, where the beast and the
false prophet are also; and they will be
tormented day and night forever and
ever," ( Rev. 20:10 ).
3. "to whom be the glory forevermore,
Amen" ( Gal. 1:5 )
4. "Now to our God and Father be the
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( Phil.
4:20 )
5. "Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( 1 Tim.
1:17 ).
6. "The Lord will deliver me from every
evil deed, and will bring me safely to
His heavenly kingdom; to Him be the
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( 2 Tim.
4:18 ).
7. "equip you in every good thing to do
His will, working in us that which is
pleasing in His sight, through Jesus
Christ, to whom be the glory forever
and ever. Amen," ( Heb. 13:21 ).
8. "Whoever speaks, let him speak, as it
were, the utterances of God; whoever
serves, let him do so as by the
strength which God supplies; so that in
all things God may be glorified through
Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the
glory and dominion forever and ever.
Amen," ( 1 Pet. 4:11 ).
9. "and He has made us to be a kingdom,
priests to His God and Father; to Him
be the glory and the dominion forever
and ever. Amen," ( Rev. 1:6 ).
10. "and the living One; and I was dead,
and behold, I am alive forevermore, and
I have the keys of death and of
Hades," ( Rev. 1:18 ).
11. "And when the living creatures give
glory and honor and thanks to Him who
sits on the throne, to Him who lives
forever and ever," ( Rev. 4:9 ).
12. "the twenty-four elders will fall down
before Him who sits on the throne, and
will worship Him who lives forever and
ever, and will cast their crowns before
the throne," ( Rev. 4:10 ).
13. "And every created thing which is in
heaven and on the earth and under the
earth and on the sea, and all things in
them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits
on the throne, and to the Lamb, be
blessing and honor and glory and
dominion forever and ever," ( Rev.
5:13 ).
14. "Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom
and thanksgiving and honor and power
and might, be to our God forever and
ever. Amen," ( Rev. 7:12 ).
15. "and swore by Him who lives forever
and ever, who created heaven and the
things in it, and the earth and the
things in it, and the sea and the things
in it, that there shall be delay no
longer," ( Rev. 10:6 ).
16. "And the seventh angel sounded; and
there arose loud voices in heaven,
saying, 'The kingdom of the world has
become the kingdom of our Lord, and
of His Christ; and He will reign forever
and ever,'" ( Rev. 11:15 ).
17. "And one of the four living creatures
gave to the seven angels seven golden
bowls full of the wrath of God, who
lives forever and ever," ( Rev. 15:7 ).
18. "And there shall no longer be any
night; and they shall not have need of
the light of a lamp nor the light of the
sun, because the Lord God shall
illumine them; and they shall reign
forever and ever," ( Rev. 22:5 ).

Same twisting of Bible verses.