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jonbellion:
The christians are always fond of saying that "carnal minds" can never understand the bible.
Well my mind must be be carnal then
2 kings 2:11
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.
John 3:11
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.(these were jesus' words)
I don't think you need a soothsayer to tell you there is something wrong here
What's your say on this christians
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The christian crew

OLAADEGBU:
Was Jesus created? Was Jesus the greatest creation of God? Why is it so important to understand that Jesus was not created?

DaimlerBen:
Did Paul draw a sword on Bar-Jesus?

MuttleyLaff:
"For six days work may be done,
but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day,
a sabbath of complete rest to the LORD;
whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.
- Exodus 35:2

Dont only ask whether he keeps the Sabbath or not.
Ask him too, does he enforce the precept, underlined in Exodus 35:2 above?

They keep only the reinstated nine laws restored from ten abolished laws nailed on the cross for public display

I thought you already know that he likes exceeding his prerogatives wherenever the subject of sabbath is tabled

Even if it's ceremonial Sabbaths, the truth remains that weekly sabbath has been abolished

though it is an unfortunate confusion and easy mixing up oversight to make
it doesnt diminish the biblical facts and truth that the fourth commandment (i.e. remember the sabbath to keep it holy) was abolished
and unlike its nine other commandment counterparts not restored or reinstated

MuttleyLaff:
You are out of your depth.

OK, I am so pleased that you've dragged Nigerian Law into this because the law of gravity etcetera questions which you were dodging earlier can show up here in a slight different form.

Do we then make void the law of gravity by jumping off a skyscraper without a parachute through faith. God forbid: yea, gravity is established.

Can you blueAgent sitting inside a Boeing 747 take off in the air and make the law of gravity void through faith. God allows: Yes, we establish the law of aerodynamics

Ubenedictus:
To get the sense of the passage please read up John 14 and 15, Jesus isnt talking about the ten commandment but his own commandment of love.

jn 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

MuttleyLaff:
It won't be a first to be drunk with the spirit.
You should try it.

Now, talking of this Matthew 5:19 verse you unashamedly put up.
Have you ever sat down to think about what commandments was Matthew 5:19 talking about. SMH

Have another go but try harder, just don't tie yourself up in knots

Ubenedictus:
To get the sense of the passage please read up John 14 and 15, Jesus isnt talking about the ten commandment but his own commandment of love.

jn 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

DaimlerBen:
Did Paul draw a sword on Bar-Jesus?

sonmvayina:
No, am not..i know there is a creator of all. God i know is not a MAN..it is the totality of the conciouseness of the universe..both positive and negative..gathering every sunday to read from ancient books, sing and dance and collect peoples money is a waste of time and energy..

sonmvayina:
No, am not..i know there is a creator of all. God i know is not a MAN..it is the totality of the conciouseness of the universe..both positive and negative..gathering every sunday to read from ancient books, sing and dance and collect peoples money is a waste of time and energy..

MuttleyLaff:
"For six days work may be done,
but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day,
a sabbath of complete rest to the LORD;
whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.
- Exodus 35:2

OP thank you for putting this write-up in the public domain,
though you left out Exodus 35:2, thank you still
I wonder who is enforcing Exodus 35:2

This sabbath something is very interesting and quite important
but it is bad that all you've shared is not well-known to believers who strictly observes Sunday as a sabbath
and that closet Seventh Day Adventists like the blueAgent or Splinz of this world dont take as gospel that the sabbath has been abolished

After first denying or resisting the truth about the abolition of sabbath, I doubt these two group of sabbatarians
(i.e. observers of Saturday or Sunday as a sabbath),
in light of supportive biblical evidences, <<notice the plural, will admit or agree that it is true that the sabbath has been abolished.

Goshen360:
And those commandments are the 10?

MuttleyLaff:
"For six days work may be done,
but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day,
a sabbath of complete rest to the LORD;
whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.
- Exodus 35:2

Dont only ask whether he keeps the Sabbath or not.
Ask him too, does he enforce the precept, underlined in Exodus 35:2 above?

They keep only the reinstated nine laws restored from ten abolished laws nailed on the cross for public display

I thought you already know that he likes exceeding his prerogatives wherenever the subject of sabbath is tabled

Even if it's ceremonial Sabbaths, the truth remains that weekly sabbath has been abolished

though it is an unfortunate confusion and easy mixing up oversight to make
it doesnt diminish the biblical facts and truth that the fourth commandment (i.e. remember the sabbath to keep it holy) was abolished
and unlike its nine other commandment counterparts not restored or reinstated

otemanuduno:
Somebody told me that the book of Malachi 3:10 said that we should pay tithe to a supposed god. I asked the guy, is Malachi God Almighty?

John told some people that God Almighty loved the world and because of that he killed his innocent child. I ask people, is John God?

Moses told some people to worship only Yahweh as God Almighty. I ask Moses, is Yahweh God Almighty?

John told some people that they can't see the kingdom of God except they are born again. I ask the people once more 'is John God?'


If Kumuyi had had his way, he would have put his name in the bible and it would look like 'the book of Kumuyi'. And in his book, he would have said, God said that you guys should not watch TV or wear trousers as a lady. And my question would have remained 'is Kumuyi God?'

Actually, the God Almighty we have is the Universe. He created the first sets of beings such as Odin, Atum, Yahweh, Allah, Chimides, Ra, Enki, Moloch and Enli, Mazda, Vishnu including thousands others. All these gods have had the time when people worship them massively. And now, Yahweh and Allah are the ones on the limelight(though their time is gradually fading off the minds of the fearless).

Almighty God hasn't commanded human beings to do anything or not to do it since the beginning of time, only the gods do such. And no book should be tagged the 'BOOK OF GOD ALMIGHTY' rather they are the books of the gods.

i.e the bible is the book of the god called Yahweh. Quran is the book of the god Allah. Vedas is the book of the god called Vishnu. And now the god called Atum is revealing his words to me Otem and the words of god Atum are true, because he does not want humans to keep on deceiving themselves and cheating themselves.

In the books of other gods, they made themselves God Almighty to the people that worship them. But in the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH, God Almighty is being revealed(the father of Atum, Allah, Vishnu, Odin, Yahweh and other gods you have ever heard of).

And currently, some gods who want human to live without fear have put some other gods in a spiritual prison until humans will have a renewal of the mind and live fearlessly. The imprisoned gods are Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, Enlil, Gaol and ten others. And according to the Thummim, they shall be imprisoned for a thousand years until human minds would have evolved into a fearless one.

I AM GLAD TO BE A CARRIER OF TRUTH.

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DaimlerBen:
Stop misinterpreting it yourself, read the whole story.

Luke 22
35 And he said unto them, "When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing?" And they said, "Nothing."

36 Then said he unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, "And he was reckoned among the transgressors"; for the things concerning me have an end."

38 And they said, "Lord, behold, here are two swords." And he said unto them, "It is enough."

Isaiah 53:12b
"...and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors."

Jesus told them to buy a sword to fulfil the prophecy that he would be seen as an evil man (transgressor) who wanted to start a rebellion against Rome (Luke 23:1-5, John 18:30; 19:12-15).
How can only 2 swords be enough to defend 12 people & fight against the multitude that came to arrest Jesus? C'mon!
Even Peter was chastised for drawing his sword.
Perhaps Jews (PERHAPS) were permitted to kill in war & stone to death as punishment, but nowhere (I haven't seen it anywhere) are Christians instructed to do so, even in self defence.

Ubenedictus:
The law of christ, the law of love and ultimately grace.

ScienceWatch:
My question is, why ? Is it a mental problem ?
Is it a lack of nutrition ?

Has the Atheists brain evolved to the point where is no need to learn ?

sonmvayina:
well, you just have to accept the fact that some people see the bible just the way they see Harry potter and the chambers of secret(my favorite)....a story book.

Ubenedictus:
thank God he said by the law of liberty not the old law

Abeg let us now establish the law. What is the purpose of the old law? We all know it wasnt to make men righteous. So what was its purpose?

Ubenedictus:
God hates teaching heresy esp when it is the old law.

Ubenedictus:
Nobody in the new testament claims the old law must be obeyed by xtians. instead it says it was fulfilled, abolished, became obsolate and now we are under sumtin james calls the law of liberty.

MuttleyLaff:
Moses' Teachings couldn't accomplish everything that God required.
But we have something else that gives us greater confidence and allows us to approach God
- Hebrews 7:19

For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
- John 1:17

Certainly, sin shouldn't have power over you
because you're not controlled by laws (i.e. for you not under The Written Law) but by God's favor.
- Romans 6:14

Certainly, there is a curse on all who rely on their own efforts to live according to a set of standards because Scripture says,
"Whoever doesn't obey EVERYTHING that is written in Moses' Teachings is cursed."
- Galatians 3:10

For whoever keeps the whole Written Law and slips in one thing, he is condemned by the entire Law
- James 2:10

But now we have died to those laws that bound us
(i.e. we have been released or exempted from The Written Law)
God has broken their effect on us
so that we are serving in a new spiritual way, not in an old way dictated by written words (i.e. the Old Order Scriptures)
- Romans 7:6

So Christ has truly set us free.
Now make sure that you stay free, and don't get tied up again in slavery to the law.
- Galatians 5:1

Another good read is Romans 8:1-6

What you, called, bible skills that got you laughing, actually is, 2 Timothy 2:15 in action,
an approved & unashamed workman rightly dividing the word of truth

#5 What is the law of gravity, what does it do and/or what is it all about?
#6 What is the law of aerodynamics, what does it do and/or what is it all about?
#7 Does the law of gravity produce any effect whilst the law of aerodynamics is being made use of?
What's your response going to be? No or Yes?

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Why are you so petrified of answering questions #5 - #7 above reproduced?

It is a pitiable spectacle watching you repeatedly avoid answering questions #5 - #7
and watch your dire cringeworthy performance of needing somebody's else website to speak up for you

You just have to man up men. Talk to me yourself and dont palm me off to Doug
My discourse is with you blueAgent and not with Doug nor his amazingfacts website

Tbh, you know that, if you answer questions #5 - #7 it would dispel the myth you've entertained

Also, I suspect you're a closet Seventh Day Adventist
and that's another reason why are steering away from answering questions #5 - #7

You're chickening out from giving the correct responses to questions #5 - #7,
all because you're afraid your answers will shatter your illusion that the Ten Commandments cant be cancelled out or be rendered inoperative

Ken4Christ:
The New Covenant first fulfilled the 10 Commandments and after that abolished it for a superior way of life - Grace.

To fulfill means to meet its righteous requirements. Jesus took our sins and gave us his righteousness. The nature of this new life is Love. When you walk in love, you will not steal, you will not kill and you will not commit adultery.

Romans 13:9-10.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Concerning the concept of sin. Under the Law, sin is the transgression of the Law.

Under the New Covenant, sin is disobedience. Disobedience to the teachings of our Lord Jesus and his Apostles. These are the instructions we live by in the New Testament.

For instance, our Lord Jesus said, forgive when you stand praying. If you don't forgive, you have sinned.

There are several verses that warns us not to fornicate. If you fornicate, you have sinned.

Hebrews 10:25 says we should not forsake the assembly of the saints together. So, if you choose to stay at home when you are supposed to be in Church, you have sinned.

So, the concept of sin under the Law and under the New Testament is not the same.

Besides, the new covenant places a higher standard of righteousness. For example, you have to literally kill under the Law to be a murderer. But under the new covenant, hatred for your brother makes you a murderer.

You have to sleep with a married woman to be called an adulterer, but under the new covenant, when you lust after a woman, you have committed adultery.

The law and grace are two mutually exclusive events. In just the same way you can't have head and tail at the same time, grace and Law cannot exist together.
This is what Paul meant when he said,

Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

If we argue that the 10 Commandments is still in force, what about the Law of Sabbath?

Apostle Paul said no one should judge us based on keeping the Sabbath days confirming the Law and commandments have been abolished;

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.

Please use Scriptures from the New Testament to present your contrary understanding to my submission in this article.

God bless you all.

Ken4Christ:
The New Covenant first fulfilled the 10 Commandments and after that abolished it for a superior way of life - Grace.

To fulfill means to meet its righteous requirements. Jesus took our sins and gave us his righteousness. The nature of this new life is Love. When you walk in love, you will not steal, you will not kill and you will not commit adultery.

Romans 13:9-10.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Concerning the concept of sin. Under the Law, sin is the transgression of the Law.

Under the New Covenant, sin is disobedience. Disobedience to the teachings of our Lord Jesus and his Apostles. These are the instructions we live by in the New Testament.

For instance, our Lord Jesus said, forgive when you stand praying. If you don't forgive, you have sinned.

There are several verses that warns us not to fornicate. If you fornicate, you have sinned.

Hebrews 10:25 says we should not forsake the assembly of the saints together. So, if you choose to stay at home when you are supposed to be in Church, you have sinned.

So, the concept of sin under the Law and under the New Testament is not the same.

Besides, the new covenant places a higher standard of righteousness. For example, you have to literally kill under the Law to be a murderer. But under the new covenant, hatred for your brother makes you a murderer.

You have to sleep with a married woman to be called an adulterer, but under the new covenant, when you lust after a woman, you have committed adultery.

The law and grace are two mutually exclusive events. In just the same way you can't have head and tail at the same time, grace and Law cannot exist together.
This is what Paul meant when he said,

Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

If we argue that the 10 Commandments is still in force, what about the Law of Sabbath?

Apostle Paul said no one should judge us based on keeping the Sabbath days confirming the Law and commandments have been abolished;

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.

Please use Scriptures from the New Testament to present your contrary understanding to my submission in this article.

God bless you all.

Splinz:
I don't think you need anyone's opinion before obeying God. I mean, the Bible is there for you bro.

The thing is, people don't question why they believe what they do, they don't seek for proofs but simply follow the crowd.

Take for instance, the changing of the true Sabbath day to Sunday by those who called themselves Christians. Who authorized the change- God? What is the origin and history of Sunday observance by the churches of the world?

These are what you need to know, and then decide who to obey. Whether God or man.

petra1:
The site is quiet enlightening. I want to ask , Is pastor Dough a Pentecostal minister or Adventist. Also what's his opinion on sabbath . I couldn't get the details

ScienceWatch:
Your friend is a staunch believer in his failed prophet Richard Dawkins. If he ever was a true believer in God as healer, he would show you proof. Do your friend know that your stated mission in life as a "Coward Atheist" is to destroy the worlds religions, firstly Christianity and therefore his own life ?

We all must learn to choose friends wisely.

What has Prophet Dawkins offered his followers ? Only hatred of others beliefs. Prophet Dawkins disguise this hatred by promising his followers a better life after the destruction of others religions.

When you listen to the dreaded doctrines of Atheism, dont you stop and ask what are their hidden selfish motives ?

MrPRevailer:
The Most HATED Kent Hovind Video By The US Government and why they imprisoned him


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqCx2j9Ig1I


Watch this video. It will make you wet.
Better yet Bookmark it.

Lennycool:
Sometimes I don't know what makes me even try.
This dude is here arguing with research carried out by one of the most prestigious university in the world and he doesn't even understand what evolution is.

Lennycool:
Take it up with UC Berkeley then. I'm sure the scientist there would love to know how their research is fake.

sonmvayina:
the truth hurts......a lie is worse.