Goshen360:


Lol....not really but the word is true. He that is born of God CANNOT sin. It's either we know what he's saying or we dont.

blueAgent:





It Obvious you don't. know your Bible.
Every one can claim to love God. so for you to prove that you love God you must obey his laws, the question is which laws?

I guess you have read this verse.

John 14:15
If you love me, keep my commandments.

MZLady39:


Love the pic Sir Muttley! Am honored to have received one for my post!
I'm an observer of the original Sabbath (Saturday) and that is the only Sabbath I now honor...with all due respect and not judging those that do not.
Sorry but don't understand what the words "gangan paapaa" mean but I will say this:
You had said that the "Sabbath" was the only commandment that had been abolished. I was disagreeing with you

MuttleyLaff:
Nobody is judging anyone, exposing the truth is what has all along being going on

Noooooo sister, haba, don't pull out fast one on me like that

Don't misquote, misread and stop misunderstanding what I typed

After all the ten commandments were abolished, all the commandments, except for the fourth commandment were restored or reinstated

MZLady39:
Sorry Love the pic Sir Muttley! Am honored to have received one for my post!

MZLady39:
Sorry I'm an observer of the original Sabbath (Saturday) and that is the only Sabbath I now honor...with all due respect and not judging those that do not.

MZLady39:
Sorry but don't understand what the words "gangan paapaa" mean

MZLady39:
but I will say this:
You had said that the "Sabbath" was the only commandment that had been abolished. I was disagreeing with you smiley

MZLady39:
Sir Muttley

MZLady39:
Let me not get confused with you...
sorry but there wasn't any intention to misquote, misread or misunderstand you or pull a fast one

MZLady39:
We are trying to get the facts right..am I correct?

MZLady39:
Where we disagree is the part where you say, "After all the ten commandments were abolished, all the commandments, except for the fourth commandment were restored or reinstated"

Ubenedictus:
the word is always true, it is the interpretation that usually causes headache. I have seen that passage interpreted so often that i can say i know a osas thread is coming soon.

blueAgent:





Yes. are there alternative laws? you could give us.

blueAgent:
It Obvious you don't know your Bible.
Every one can claim to love God. so for you to prove that you love God you must obey his laws, the question is which laws?

I guess you have read this verse.

John 14:15
If you love me, keep my commandments.

Goshen360:
And those commandments are the 10?

blueAgent:
Yes.
Are there alternative laws? you could give us

Goshen360:
1 John 3:23

Goshen360:
The problem with you guys is, whenever or wherever you see the "commandments", y'all quickly think or conclusion it's the 10.

Goshen360:
He never said, keep THE 10 commandments but rather, keep MY commandments

Goshen360:
Jesus commandments ARE NOT SAME as the 10 commandments

Goshen360:


We can explore that on another thread or some other times if you so wish but certain not OSAS thing.

MuttleyLaff:





Jesus' and the NT commandments ARE
ALMOST THE SAME as the 10
commandments
Jesus' and the NT commandments ARE the 10 commandments, less one , RELOADED
It is apparent that less one commandment, is
enough for Jesus and the NT

Ubenedictus:
actually the new command of love encompass the 9 commandment and even more. The scope of those commandments have been expanded.

Ubenedictus:
To get the sense of the passage please read up John 14 and 15, Jesus isnt talking about the ten commandment but his own commandment of love.

jn 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

MuttleyLaff:
It won't be a first to be drunk with the spirit.
You should try it.

Now, talking of this Matthew 5:19 verse you unashamedly put up.
Have you ever sat down to think about what commandments was Matthew 5:19 talking about. SMH

Have another go but try harder, just don't tie yourself up in knots

Ubenedictus:
To get the sense of the passage please read up John 14 and 15, Jesus isnt talking about the ten commandment but his own commandment of love.

jn 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

MuttleyLaff:
"For six days work may be done,
but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day,
a sabbath of complete rest to the LORD;
whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.
- Exodus 35:2

Dont only ask whether he keeps the Sabbath or not.
Ask him too, does he enforce the precept, underlined in Exodus 35:2 above?

They keep only the reinstated nine laws restored from ten abolished laws nailed on the cross for public display

I thought you already know that he likes exceeding his prerogatives wherenever the subject of sabbath is tabled

Even if it's ceremonial Sabbaths, the truth remains that weekly sabbath has been abolished

though it is an unfortunate confusion and easy mixing up oversight to make
it doesnt diminish the biblical facts and truth that the fourth commandment (i.e. remember the sabbath to keep it holy) was abolished
and unlike its nine other commandment counterparts not restored or reinstated

blueAgent:
Please tell me what the commandments is?

blueAgent:
Stop posting rubbish you cannot defend from the Bible.

I guess you have not read this Bible verses.
"It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than
one tittle of the law to fail." Luke 16:17. "My
covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips." Psalms 89:34. "All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for everand ever." Psalms 111:7, 8.

This verses say that not even a dot or T will be removed from the law, So where did you see that one law(the Sabbath was done away with)?

MuttleyLaff:
Say pretty please


I guess Deuteronomy 18:15 and Acts 3:22, I provided up there, have yet to sink in you.

blueAgent:
What has Deuteronomy 18:15 and Acts3:22
have to do with God's law?

MuttleyLaff:
The person through who those ten commandments came through, in those two verses, tells you who to listen to and to listen to whatsoever the Person tells you.

Goshen360:


1 John 3:23.

The problem with you guys is, whenever or wherever you see the "commandments", y'all quickly think or conclusion it's the 10. He never said, keep THE 10 commandments but rather, keep MY commandments. Jesus commandments ARE NOT SAME as the 10 commandments.

blueAgent:
And what did the person tell us?

blueAgent:




Stop posting rubbish you cannot defend from the Bible.

I guess you have not read this Bible verses.
"It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than
one tittle of the law to fail." Luke 16:17. "My
covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips." Psalms 89:34. "All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for everand ever." Psalms 111:7, 8.

This verses say that not even a dot or T will be removed from the law, So where did you see that one law(the Sabbath was done away with)?

Splinz:
Be easy on these people. You should know that as carnal men (Romans 8:7), they'll always hate the commandments of God, neither can they submit to Him. They'll do everything and even embrace wishful thinking & self-deceit that it is no more. So let God be true and every man a liar (Romans 3:4).

Remember the instructions in 2 Timothy 2:23, and be guided accordingly.

MuttleyLaff:
Exactly my sentiment, less is more

The "new commandment" is a specific authoritative order. It is the pinnacle of all Jesus' and the NT commandments.

Its objective and final outcome is LOVE, this ultimately manifests when you abide and follow other Jesus' and the NT commandments.

blueAgent:






You are wrong.
the Ten Commandments hang from these two
commands like our 10 fingers hang from our two hands. They are inseparable. Love to God makes keeping the first four commandments (which concern God) a pleasure, and love toward our neighbor makes keeping the last six (which concern our neighbor) a joy. Love fulfills the law by taking away the drudgery and by making law keeping a delight ( Psalms 40:. When we truly love a person, honoring his or her requests becomes a joy. Jesus said," If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15. It is impossible to love the Lord and not keep His commandments, because the Bible says, "This is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:3. "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4.
So what are the commandments of God?

blueAgent:




You see the Law of liberty you claim that is different from the 10commandments is a big lie.

ReadJames 2:9
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James is making referrence to the ten commandments. it is only in the ten commandments that God explictly told people not to commit adultery or not to kill.
You see the law of liberty is the same as the ten commandments which james said we will be judged by.

Ubenedictus:
I guess what u are looking for is an excuse for sabbath abi?

petra1:


Tithes and offering and alms and worship will always be principles in Gods kingdom

MZLady39:
MuttleyLaff,
My apologies for you not liking "sir". It's a respect thing. But I will respect your choice.

MZLady39:
Laughter and humor is good for the soul when it's not at the expense of another

MZLady39:
Thanks for the decent conversation and your respect of my faith.
You know what I believe.... so we're good...

MZLady39:
I see however, that you like to play on words...

MZLady39:
nteresting..but you know and I know....that you very clearly understand what I believe smiley

MZLady39:
So are you saying that the 10 commandments are no longer biding

MZLady39:
and that there is no specific day of rest for His people?