Foreign Affairs › Re: Why Is Russia So Dangerous? by blueAgent(m): 7:34pm On Feb 25, 2017*. Modified: 9:46pm On Jul 12, 2017 |
Appleyard: So-called God's own country where you can't pray Jesus in public schools just to satisfy the taste of other religious sects... I wonder how many or which G(g)ods you're talking about. I hope you know Russia was one of the countries were Atheisms was a state religeon? Like the OP you two should get your facts right before you post. both Russia and US are controlled by the same Satanic Elites. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Why Is Russia So Dangerous? by blueAgent(m): 7:31pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
irririchris: The size of Russia is bigger than that of Pluto. If Siberia were a country, it would be the third largest in the world. Russia stretches about 10000 km east to west, which is almost three times the diameter of the moon, one-and-a-half times the diameter of mars and just 2000 kms short of earth’s diameter. Russia’s total natural resources are valued at USD 75 trillion. Russia has the largest reserves and is the largest exporter of natural gas. It has the second largest coal reserves, the eighth largest oil reserves and is the largest exporter of oil in the world. Russia is a leading producer of copper, fluorspar, iron ore, lime, gold, magnesium compound and metals, mica, cobalt, aluminum, asbestos, arsenic, cadmium, coal, cement, boron, bauxite, vanadium, titanium sponge, tin, tungsten, potash, sulfur, silicon, rhenium, steel, pig iron, nickel, palladium, phosphate, petroleum, nitrogen, peat and oil shale. Russia has 40% of world’s gold reserves. 20% of the global production of industrial grade diamonds and 25% of global gemstone production come from Russia. 11% of the global aluminum market is controlled by just one Russian company, Rusal. Russia has more than a fifth of the world's forests. About one-fifth of the timber in the entire world is present in the forests of Siberia. If you laid the oil and gas pipelines of Russia around the equator, it would encircle earth 6 times. Only one lake of Russia, Lake Baikal has 20 percent of entire fresh water in the world. Russia has 4 of the 10 largest rivers in the world. Russia’s top 20 billionaires have a combined wealth of about USD 250 billion, which is more than the GDP of 150 individual countries in the world. Russian inventions include transformer, helicopter, video-tape recorder, synthetic rubber, grain harvester, electrical telegraph, arc welding, radiator, powdered milk and thousands of other things without which life would be very different today. Russia has the largest number of nuclear weapons in the world. Russia's RS-24 Yars Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) has ten independently targetable nuclear warheads, which can reenter earth's atmosphere at hypersonic speeds at around 5 miles a second. Russia has the largest atomic bomb - Tsar Bomb, which was detonated way back in 1961. Russia is Not dangerous. It is FORMIDABLE. Written by Rahul Shrivastava, Ambassador of India to Venezuela. Source- Quora.com Still no much for God's own country USA. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Netanyahu Israeli Prime Minister's Derogatory Speech On Africans & Arabs by blueAgent(m): 7:26pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
kikuyu1: Though I blame xtianity,too many simie,the Israelites/Canaanites/Assyrians/Babylonians were all AFRICAN! HaHaHaHaHa.....I laugh at you Dreamer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Roman Catholics Requests Pope Francis Refer To Mary As Co-redemptrix With Jesus by blueAgent(m): 7:21pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: Mary is co-redemptorist, that is historic christian teaching.
What does that mean?
It simply means that in an inferior manner she participated in the salvation of the world by voluntarily agreeing to bring forth for us our saviour, Jesus Christ who accomplished our salvation completely, totally and per excellence.
Jesus our saviour didnt fall from heaven someone had to co-operate with God so we all may be redeemed, this contribution is small and inferior but it is a contribution nonetheless and Mary is that person who made it. She made a contribution for my salvation, for your salvation, for our redemption. We cant sweep that truth away as if it didnt happen.
You don't need to be catholic to admit the truth that my her obedience to God, she contributed, though in an inferior manner to the world's redemption.
That much is scattered in the gospel, in the writting of the early christians and the historic judgement of the church. I pity you. |
Politics › Re: Lord Lugard's Perception Of The African Man - What Is Your Take by blueAgent(m): 7:17pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
khalids: Original Poster "anonimi
" I Concur 100% |
Politics › Re: Lord Lugard's Perception Of The African Man - What Is Your Take by blueAgent(m): 6:55pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
khalids: Original Poster "anonimi
" I concur 100% |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 6:53pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
Splinz: When I say they don't know what was abolished and what remained, they claimed they do. But one can't help but shudder at the height of ignorance they displayed.
Indeed, their confusion is great. True. most of them cannot even differentiate between God's moral laws and the mosaic and ceremonial laws. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Created? by blueAgent(m): 6:51pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
Auki: Jesus was created by the same God that created Adam without father or mother.
Worship God not Jesus Are you well? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Created? by blueAgent(m): 6:50pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: Was there any other one begotten of God? What kind of question is this? consult your Bible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 6:41pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses - Galatians 5:18
It is about the freedom in Christ, under grace and the law of love (i.e. the royal law) according to Jesus Funnily enough, the law of liberty is established, the same way the law of faith is established
20When I was with the Jews, I lived like a Jew to bring the Jews to Christ. When I was with those who follow the Jewish law, I too lived under that law. Even though I am not subject to the law, I did this so I could bring to Christ those who are under the law. 21When I am with the Gentiles who do not follow the Jewish law, I too live apart from that law so I can bring them to Christ. But I do not ignore the law of God; I obey the law of Christ - 1 Corinthians 9:20-21
What you really are looking for is an excuse for sabbath abi? I doubt James told us that we should observe all the law on the sabbath
You this man, you have come again and here I was thinking I am going to have a quiet weekend to myself to do other things needing to be dealt with
I havent tried any hard to avoid your question. You see, you are mixing together two threads, because I asked you on the other thread: Are you a learner? and then said to you: Ought you by now, to have known that Paul was talking about of the law of faith. That's is what you establish in order to override one law when using or applying a superior law. SMH
Paul simply was saying we should establish the law of faith.
It is easy to spot who lacks faith in the area, that the whole ten commandments after their abolition, were afterwards, all explicitly re-introduced except for the fourth commandment Such wont believe this and hence the law of faith in this area doesnt get established by them
I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law When in the air, flying, I am not free from the law of gravity but I am under the law of aerodynamics
Yours, Splinz's and MZLady39's choices, are due to a current level of recognition and understanding Romans 12:3 confirms that the level of recognition and understanding in matters such as this topic is in accordance with the received measure of faith God has distributed to each of us and thats why it was easy for me to readily sympathise with and respect MZLady39 choice in the whole matter
Love avoids doing any wrong to one's fellow man, and is therefore complete obedience to Law - Romans 13:10
What about it? Matthew 22:37-39? Isn't that about the royal law? I guess you have not thoughtfully read the above Romans 13:10 verse
You mean ''the law and the prophets'' and not the ''laws of the prophets''? There is one difference.
The whole ten commandments after abolition were all EXPLICITLY re-introduced short one commandment The omission of the fourth commandment after re-introducing the ten is the difference Keep confusing yourself, the truth is far from you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 6:39pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
openmine: 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of ALL KJV
10 You might follow all of God’s law. But if you fail to obey only one command, you are guilty of BREAKING ALL OF THE COMMANDMENTS in that law. ERV
10 For the person who keeps all of the laws except ONE is as guilty as a person who has broken all of God’s laws.
JAMES 2:10
The following are some of the laws...Which of them do you observe?
To offer up incense twice daily (Ex. 30:7).
To observe the second Passover (Num. 9:11).
To eat the flesh of the Paschal sacrifice on the night of the fifteenth of Nissan (Ex. 12: .
To observe the procedure of the burnt-offering (Lev. 1:3).
To observe the procedure of the meal-offering (Lev. 2:1).
To offer up the meal-offering of the Omer on the morrow after the first day of Passover, together with one lamb (Lev. 23:10).
To offer up the regular sacrifices daily (two lambs as burnt offerings) (Num. 28:3).
To offer all sacrifices in the Sanctuary (Deut. 12:14). The Ten commandments is what God said you should obey not this irrelevant list you wrote here. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 10:09pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: To get the sense of the passage please read up John 14 and 15, Jesus isnt talking about the ten commandment but his own commandment of love.
jn 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. I guess you have not read this Bible verse. Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. The law of love you claim Jesus taught is based on the laws of the prophets. they are not different laws . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath Day? by blueAgent(m): 10:01pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: Are you a learner? Ought you by now, to have known that Paul was talking about of the law of faith.
That's is what you establish in order to override one law when using or applying a superior law. SMH Which one is law of faith? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 9:59pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: You have a bible don't you In it, you'll find all that Jesus commands us and all the NT tells us to do.
Trust me, when you go through it, you will find Jesus commanding us and the NT explicitly telling us about all the Ten Commandments but without any mention of the fourth commandment
Mary once said about Jesus: "Whatever He may say to you, do it"
Moses, before her too, about Jesus said: "Listen to Him and do whatsoever He says
Who you gonna listen to? God the Son or Moses? You are trying hard to avoid my question. I asked you which law did Paul say we should establish simple? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by blueAgent(m): 9:58pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
InsanePsycho: It is a product of your imagination. It is not real that is why it cannot be held accountable  Clown |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 9:57pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: I guess what u are looking for is an excuse for sabbath abi? James told us that we should observe all the Laws. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 9:55pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: The law of liberty is actually bigger than the old law so dont be suprised that do not kill is there. what u wont find though is sabbath. So what is the law of liberty? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Almighty God Don't Write Books, Humans Do by blueAgent(m): 9:52pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
petra1: 2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV Strong's) 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: True. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Abusing God And Talking About Him Carelessly!! by blueAgent(m): 5:26pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
abdulaz: The idea behind the existence of God is just in your imagination, he/she doesn't exist. Clown. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by blueAgent(m): 10:29am On Feb 23, 2017 |
InsanePsycho: Address the op. If a human committed these things that god committed wouldn't you burn the person on the street as a Nigerian?
The bible god deserves jungle justice and a shot to the cranium
Oniranu imaginary being  You answered your own question, you said if a Human being, well God is not a Human being ,He is the Alpha and Omega,The Almightly God,the I AM that IAM,The unquestionable God. get it into your thick skull. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 3:01pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: The person through who those ten commandments came through, in those two verses, tells you who to listen to and to listen to whatsoever the Person tells you. And what did the person tell us? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by blueAgent(m): 2:58pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
obinna58: Amazing God indeed let's take a look at some of his powerful mysterious works in the bible.
1. God drowns the whole earth. In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.
2. God kills half a million people. In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.
3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn. In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.
4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them. In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.
5. Genocide after genocide after genocide. In Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. In Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier.
6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity. In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant. (Newer cosmetic translations count only 70 deaths, but their text notes admit that the best and earliest manuscripts put the number at 50,070.)
7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god. In Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him: “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died.
8. The Amorites destroyed by sword and by God’s rocks. In Joshua 10:10-11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky.
9. God burns two cities to death. In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home.
10. God has 42 children mauled by bears. In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. (Newer cosmetic translations say the bears “maul” the children, but the original Hebrew, baqa, means “to tear apart.”)
11. A tribe slaughtered and their virgins raped for not showing up at roll call. In Judges 21:1-23, a tribe of Israelites misses roll call, so the other Israelites kill them all except for the virgins, which they take for themselves. Still not happy, they hide in vineyards and pounce on dancing women from Shiloh to take them for themselves.
12. 3,000 crushed to death. In Judges 16:27-30, God gives Samson strength to bring down a building to crush 3,000 members of a rival tribe.
13. A concubine raped and dismembered. In Judges 19:22-29, a mob demands to rape a godly master’s guest. The master offers his daughter and a concubine to them instead. They take the concubine and gang-rape her all night. The master finds her on his doorstep in the morning, cuts her into 12 pieces, and ships the pieces around the country.
14. Child sacrifice. In Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as a sacrificial offering for God’s favor in killing the Ammonites.
15. God helps Samson kill 30 men because he lost a bet. In Judges 14:11-19, Samson loses a bet for 30 sets of clothes. The spirit of God comes upon him and he kills 30 men to steal their clothes and pay off the debt.
16. God demands you kill your wife and children for worshiping other gods. In Deuteronomy 13:6-10, God commands that you must kill your wife, children, brother, and friend if they worship other gods.
17. God incinerates 51 men to make a point. In 2 Kings 1:9-10, Elijah gets God to burn 51 men with fire from heaven to prove he is God.
18. God kills a man for not impregnating his brother’s widow. In Genesis 38:9-10, God kills a man for refusing to impregnate his brother’s widow.
19. God threatens forced cannibalism. In Leviticus 26:27-29 and Jeremiah 19:9, God threatens to punish the Israelites by making them eat their own children.
20. The coming slaughter. According to Revelation 9:7-19, God’s got more evil coming. God will make horse-like locusts with human heads and scorpion tails, who torture people for 5 months. Then some angels will kill a third of the earth’s population. If he came today, that would be 2 billion people. Clown ,who is supposed to forgive who. you or God? when you start making aleast a string of hair from nothing then i would take you serious. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Which NL Atheist Can Prove Their Mums Existence Is Not A Figment Of Their Mind? by blueAgent(m): 2:55pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
felixomor: Like the ones who say they were created by chance accidental chemical reactions.....  I laugh. yet boys cannot get just 10000Naria from there betting slip and yet they believe chance can make Humans. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(op): 2:51pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by blueAgent(m): 2:47pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: An omniscient being does not need to think . A prescient being only needs to act not to decide . Making a decision entails acting out your thoughts due to uncertainty of the future .
But is God really omniscient? God is actually beyond omniscient : God has all propositional knowledge and the appropriate non propositional knowledge. Having all propositional knowledge means God knows all truths , that is the knowledge of everything ; and having the appropriate non propositional knowledge is like God knowing He is omnipotent , immutable , eternal . But does God know that he is the thehomer ? Of course not . You can say I am thehomer , but God can't say that . God does not know what it feels like to be a sinner but he knows that a sinner feels guilty . So God cannot have all non propositional knowledge but can have only the appropriate non propositional knowledge .
There are three characteristics of God's knowledge : natural knowledge , free knowledge and middle knowledge . Natural knowledge are necessary truths , free knowledge are contingent truths , middle knowledge is like the middle . Natural knowledge things that could be , middle knowledge things that would be and free knowledge things that will be .
There are many philosophers and theologians that believe that God made a descision but in my opinion , he just acted out his foreknowledge. Excellent answer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by blueAgent(m): 2:37pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Atheism is based on the emotional mind and ignorance . Why do you think most unintelligent people are atheist ? Huh ? Explain that ? Why did the few intelligent atheists like Richard Dawkins and Alan Turing become one after losing a loved one ? You became an atheist because are indignant God did not help you . Explain why most people become atheist after a tragic or traumatic event in their life ?
Let me explain : Our emotions have a mind of their own . In fact , man has two minds : the rational and the emotional mind . The rational mind is of the neocortex , or the thinking brain - this brain helps us make sense of whatever we experience . The emotional brain which is a repository of our emotional reactions can function independent of the neocortex or rational mind . We can hold emotional memories without any sort of active cognitive participation or involvement . We can also hold opinions about lots of things without any conscious awareness .
So what's my point : you are an atheist because of your emotional mind not your rational mind . Your opinion about God is a product of your emotional mind apparently . Why do you think arguments against Gods existence are based on emotions like : why do people suffer , why do the innocent die , why God can't stop some bad things from happening , God is not a good God because he killed or punished people severely or why would a good God punish people in Hell ? These arguments were made based on the atheist emotions not rationality . Do you still doubt ? It is possible Stephen Hawking is most likely an atheist because of his condition , most Nairaland atheists including you are atheists because they sought help and none came ; Richard Dawkins became a rabid atheist because his daughter died , Alan Turing became an atheist after his girl friend died . These people couldn't handle these situations with equanimity and their emotional minds are speaking out not their rational minds .
Have you ever wondered why the greatest minds in the history of mankind acknowledged the existence of God and why some of these greatest minds rejected the notion of a personal God ? The ones who rejected the concept of a personal God precluded being overwhelmed by thoughts from their emotional minds so they decided that God does not intervene in the affairs of men because they clearly understood the logical consequences of outrightly repudiating the existence of God .
Don't pontificate next time and stop attempting to attach rationality and logic to atheism . Great minds like Newton , Edison , Einstein , Plato , Socrates , Xenophanes , Planck , Lincoln , Leibniz and so many others are turning in their grave whenever you do so . Choose deism if you can't handle theism . Excellent post Bro. they only discover their is no God when their selfish desire is not met. but they will never accept that they are Baised. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by blueAgent(m): 2:35pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Finally the truth surfaces . Felixomor , come and see oo  True. the Dude is confused like all other Atheists. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath Day? by blueAgent(m): 2:32pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: You diverted first to Nigerian Law, didn't you. So what's good for blueAgent to do, is equally good for MuttleyLaff to do too in bringing in the law of gravity and law of aerodynamics to make you see the point and correlation Answer the question, which law did Paul ask us to establish? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Young Christian Vs. Young Atheist: Who Is Really Mentally Weak by blueAgent(m): 2:27pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
felixomor: First of all,
Even many nairaland atheists disagree with ur bolded statement above.
Some even say life is meaningless.
But people like u can never know that, because u reason from the nose.
You didnt even make a single attempt to address the OP's issue.
Well, am I surprised?
No
 Lol..... it is obvious his nose is doing the work of his Head . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians How Would You Deny This Blatant Contradiction by blueAgent(m): 2:24pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
jonbellion: The christians are always fond of saying that "carnal minds" can never understand the bible. Well my mind must be be carnal then 2 kings 2:11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. John 3:11 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.(these were jesus' words) I don't think you need a soothsayer to tell you there is something wrong here What's your say on this christians Hopfullandlord, Hahn. Lennycool, jackbizzle, benzics, lepasharon, liberadeus, immorttal, seun, randomperson, teempakguy, SirWere, Akintom The christian crew You spend so much time looking for contridictions in the Bible,which are not contridictions when the Bible is carefully studied,instead of you to worry and spend your time refuting all the Scam Hoax, and unproved lies in your fantasy World(Atheism and Evolusion). |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians How Would You Deny This Blatant Contradiction by blueAgent(m): 2:20pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
A biblical event many cite to support belief that the righteous go to heaven when they die involves the prophet Elijah. Elijah was a prophet of God in the ninth centuryB.C. The Bible states that “Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” ( 2 Kings 2:11). But does this contradict the testimony of John’s Gospel, which stated some 900 years after Elijah’s time that “no one has ascended to heaven but He whovcame down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man”? ( John 3:13). How can we explain this seeming biblical discrepancy? A closer look shows that the two passages can be reconciled easily enough. Careful study shows that three “heavens” are actually discussed in the Bible. One is God’s dwelling place—the place of His throne—and the heaven where the resurrected Jesus is today. Speaking of Christ, who is our High Priest, the Bible says, “We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens” (Hebrews 8:1). Heaven is specifically called God’s dwelling place ( Deuteronomy 26:15). The apostle Paul calls this heaven the “third heaven” (2 Corinthians 12:2)— showing, as noted, that there are two others. It’s described as the “third” because, being in the spirit realm, it is beyond the other two, which are in the physical realm. Another heaven discussed in the Bible, second in proximity to us, is what we call outer space. It is the domain of the moon, planets, comets, asteroids, sun and stars. David spoke of this when he reflected on the awesomeness of God’s creative handiwork, which he described as “Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, the moon andvthe stars, which You have ordained” ( Psalms 8:3). Many scriptures mention “the stars of heaven” ( Genesis 26:4; Deuteronomy 1:10; Deuteronomy 28:62; Isaiah 13:10). Yet another heaven, closest to us in proximity, is the envelope of air that surrounds our planet, consisting of oxygen and other gases. This heaven—earth’s atmosphere—is mentioned in such passages as Genesis 7:11-12, which describes the great flood of Noah’s day: “The windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights.” The Bible also speaks of “the birds of heaven,” those that fly overhead ( Job 35:11; Jeremiah 16:4). To determine which heaven is meant in a Bible passage, we must carefully consider the context. It was into the lower reaches of this first, closest heaven—the earth’s atmosphere—that Elijah was taken. Let’s notice the proof. God had earlier told Elijah he was to anoint a man named Elisha as a prophet to succeed him( 1 Kings 19:16). Later, as the two men walked together, Elijah said to Elisha, “What may I do for you, before I am taken away from you?” ( 2 Kings 2:9). This led to a discussion of God’s gifts to Elisha that would allow him to fill Elijah’s role. “Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” ( 2 Kings 2:11). Elijah was now gone. The former followers and students of Elijah were now to look to Elisha as their new leader. “Now when the sons of the prophets who were from Jericho saw him, they said, ‘The spirit of Elijah rests on Elisha’ ” ( 2 Kings 2:15). Many readers assume that Elijah at that point was made immortal and taken to the heaven where God resides. This was not the case. The sons of the prophets knew otherwise. They knew the whirlwind had simply removed Elijah to another location on earth. They exclaimed to Elisha: “Look now, there are fifty strong men with your servants. Please let them go and search for your master, lest perhaps the Spirit of the Lord has taken him up and cast him upon some mountain or into some valley” ( 2 Kings 2:16). The disciples were concerned for Elijah’s safety, so they sent out a party of 50 men to search for him. The 50 searched for three days but did not find him ( 2 Kings 2:17). Another passage proves conclusively that Elijah was not taken up to live in heaven. The Bible records that Elijah wrote a letter to Jehoram, the king of Judah, several years after he was removed in the whirlwind. Notice the sequence of events recorded for us in the Bible. Elijah’s last recorded and dated act occurred during the reign of the Israelite king Ahaziah when Elijah told the king he would die for his sins ( 2 Kings 1:3-17). Ahaziah’s reign lastedconly about a year, ca. 850 B.C. Elijah’s removal and replacement by Elisha is then recorded in the next chapter, 2 Kings 2. The story continues with incidents from Elisha’s life, including an encounter with Jehoshaphat, king of Judah ( 2 Kings 3:11-14). Several years later Jehoram, son of Jehoshaphat, succeeded his father as king of Judah, ca. 845 B.C. ( 2 Kings 8:16). Jehoram proved to be a wicked king, leading the nation of Judah in rebellion against God’s commandments. A few years into Jehoram’s reign, and several years after Elijah’s removal, Jehoram received a letter from Elijah warning the king of dire consequences because of his sins. This letter is recorded in 2 Chronicles 21:12-15. This letter proves that the prophet was still alive and on earth some years after he was removed by the whirlwind and replaced by Elisha. God had chosen Elisha to succeed Elijah as His prophet, so He bodily removed Elijah to another place, where he continued to live for at least several more years—as his letter to Jehoram demonstrates. The Bible tells us nothing more about Elijah’s life following his writing of the letter. But he eventually died, just like the other prophets and righteous men of the Old Testament, who all died in faith, not yet receiving the eternal life God had promised ( Hebrews 11:39). Again, a careful reading of the Scriptures shows that Elijah’s miraculous removal by a fiery chariot involved transporting him to another location on earth, not to eternal life in heaven. HEAVEN AND HELL |
Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Categories Of Atheists. by blueAgent(m): 2:13pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
Omoluabi16: Atheists or freethinkers are people who deny the existence of God or who refuse to acknowledge Him. I can categorize such people into five.
1.The raging atheist. This is the one without a purpose or cause. The raging atheist suffers from an emptiness of soul, a yet to be filled void in their life.This fellow seeks to ridicule religious people even when he possesses zero content himself. This person can't understand what benefits people derive from their faith, and it hurts them badly. Insulting other's faith is the only source of strength in their very lonely journey of disbelief. Excellent article Bro. |