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Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 12:01am On Sep 21, 2016
raphieMontella:
sin brought hurricanes to jupiter?
Is there Hurricane in Jupiter? give us evidence and facts.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m):
johnydon22:
Lordnicklaus is this the the type of infantile personal banters you'd have me engage in?

No thanks i'll pass. . . Maybe you should start cautioning these kids to behave when you need to have a mature and good discussion..

I don't know why these ones are always angry and insultive without making any points.

@BlueAgent there is a certain degree of emotional stability needed before one can be able to engage in debates/arguments or discussions in a platfom with varying and conflicting ideas.

Learn it before you may be considered worthy to be engaged - i personally has gone above the level you are on
I Laugh at U. when you say things that are laughable , you still expect to be given an award?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 4:51pm On Sep 20, 2016
ValentineMary:
Science does not subscribe to a fine tuned universe. If the universe was fine tuned, that means the maker followed a particular format it creating the universe thus having to fine tune a particular area. He could have just made a universe that does not requires fine tuning. But fine tuning shows he is following a laid down law. Who laid the format God or a higher makerhuh If it was God, then he made the vast universe just to place human in a small area called earth. Do u know how that soundshuhLet me break it down a little. If the universe was the size of earth, the Sun would be 1/50 cm. Where does that leave earthhuh

And God wasted that large area just for a tiny fraction. BlueAgent haba
U just showed your ingnorance.
this is the meaning of finetuned.

fine-tune
verb
make small adjustments to (something) in
order to achieve the best or a desired
performance.
Fine–tune | Definition of Fine–tune by Merriam-
Webster
www​.merriam-webster.com/.../fine–tune
to make small changes to (something) in order to
improve the way it works or to make it exactly
right. Source: ...
Fine-tune | Define Fine-tune at Dictionary.com
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 4:48pm On Sep 20, 2016
raphieMontella:
Youve come with fallacies again..
whats the intelligent design in a hurricane?
Clown . the funny thing is that.the people who said the Universe is fine tuned are Scientists and Nobel award winners. who know better than me and you. including Athiest Stephen Hawkings.

Did God create Hurricane to be destructive .No sin brought all this to Humanity
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 1:13pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
Man is not the center of the universe.Man,including animals,mountains.... is a result of interpretation of Vibration Energy/Consciousness at a physical level/material reality. So the idea of man having intelligent thought is out of the question.

Man is here due to the dynamically vibration the Prime particle at that spot is giving off. And the belief of a man(vibration particle) determines what he experiences. The examples are clear,we are all humans but with different experiences all the time. Our mind cells is constantly expanding and creating experiences leading to other experiences based on what we believe is true. Since this life is an illusion created by the bind,it will create what we program it to.We live in the now but motion ,Time help us create a perfect illusion.

Do you know what a Prime Radiant is? Look it up! If you make a concrete research about it,you will understand that the Prime Radiant(Original Particle) from which we all generated from vibration-ally is to the science Big Bang,to religion,God. But to make is simple,I will say it's you and I.
Another fool.explaining something that has np evidence or proof.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 1:11pm On Sep 20, 2016
hahn:
It is actually a product of mere wishful thinking

Let us assume that a "God" created the earth. We will now have to ask ourselves, which one out the 4,200 gods is responsible for it?

Sure, the whole world seems to have come to that conclusion but it is obvious that none of them did as a result of any evidence or proof but mere speculations and wishful thinking flavored with a little bit of dictatorship, slave trade and the exploitation of gullible church members who are forced to believe blindly.

As a specie, we should be above relying on wishful thinking and hasty assumptions. History has taught us that nothing profitable has ever come out of jumping into conclusion. Man would not have gotten to this level in technological advancement if we were to rely on assumptions, the bible, the quran and other books, which should be banned, that are full of lies and and ancient barbarism.

Plus the contradictions and obviously fabricated stories in many holy books are enough to prove to us that they are not worth relying on as a source of information.

If kids can see through the bullshit, then why should adults hold on to it? undecided
Clown. you have nothing reasonable to say.
Even your science acknowledge intelligent design.

www.nairaland.com/3300679/science-view-fine-turning-universe
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 1:10pm On Sep 20, 2016
johnydon22:
Where do i come in here?
Clown , scientists have acknowledged the fact that the entire Universe was designed.

www.nairaland.com/3300679/science-view-fine-turning-universe
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 1:07pm On Sep 20, 2016
hahn:
It is actually a product of mere wishful thinking

Let us assume that a "God" created the earth. We will now have to ask ourselves, which one out the 4,200 gods is responsible for it?

Sure, the whole world seems to have come to that conclusion but it is obvious that none of them did as a result of any evidence or proof but mere speculations and wishful thinking flavored with a little bit of dictatorship, slave trade and the exploitation of gullible church members who are forced to believe blindly.

As a specie, we should be above relying on wishful thinking and hasty assumptions. History has taught us that nothing profitable has ever come out of jumping into conclusion. Man would not have gotten to this level in technological advancement if we were to rely on assumptions, the bible, the quran and other books, which should be banned, that are full of lies and and ancient barbarism.

Plus the contradictions and obviously fabricated stories in many holy books are enough to prove to us that they are not worth relying on as a source of information.

If kids can see through the bullshit, then why should adults hold on to it? undecided
Clown. you have nothing reasonable to say.
Even your science acknowledge intelligent design.

www.nairaland.com/3300679/science-view-fine-turning-universe
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 1:04pm On Sep 20, 2016
according to Scientists they say the world is too fine turned to be a result of mere chance.

www.nairaland.com/3300679/science-view-fine-turning-universe
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 1:04pm On Sep 20, 2016
according to Scientists they say the world is too fine turned to be a result of mere chance.

www. nairaland.com/3300679/science-view-fine-turning-universe
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Is At Work. by blueAgent(op): 1:02pm On Sep 20, 2016
Gayjesus:
what is he waiting for?
Soon you will have it.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by blueAgent(m): 12:55pm On Sep 20, 2016
ValentineMary:
Nice thread OP.

My stance on this is that the universe is as a result of self manifestation that occured not out of necessity but rather out of probability. I like to call it the blind watch man because it knows all at the same time knows none. It is in my opinion a random cause which has shown to have random effects. The reason I would not subscribe to a anthropological God is very obvious. If an intelligent being designed it, it would be in a better and more organised shape than we have seen it to be. And I feel a deistic God is just to dodge making research on man's prime qus "Where did we come from" by we, I mean the universe because we are one and united with the universe.

My rationale behind a blind force is that if it was not a blind force, then there would be no need for adaptation since he/she/it made us just for the universe

If it was not a blind force, then the heavens and the quantum world would obey the same laws since he/she/it would not design multiple subsystems with different functions in a larger system.

If it was not a blind force, then we would not see super nova destroying planets and sending flares carelessly which could be catastrophic to already existing life.

So I don't think the universe was made for us. Rather we are a result of the universe.
Does your science prove this?



www.nairaland.com/3300679/science-view-fine-turning-universe
Science/Technology › Re: Scientific Facts Expressed By The Bible,long Before Science Knew Them. by blueAgent(op): 12:50pm On Sep 20, 2016
Teempakguy:
This is no big deal. the Koran also contains cool and amazing scientific facts. If you of course twist random words properly and that's not even the only religion with cool things like that.

what different thing does your bible have to offer?
Show me were in the Koran.
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Is At Work. by blueAgent(op): 12:45pm On Sep 20, 2016
Gayjesus:
Story to make deluded Christians happy about their imaginary god. Is that all god can do?
Fool, He can take your life in just a split secs and much more.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Has Israel Effectively Colonized The United States? by blueAgent(m): 12:36pm On Sep 20, 2016
Missy89:
Does that include the Iran deal?
I wonder. people just do guess work and post whatever they feel like. without facts.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Has Israel Effectively Colonized The United States? by blueAgent(m): 12:34pm On Sep 20, 2016
MONITZ:
Really? Since it's the NWO that is behind most of these things like u said, then what do u ve to say about the Israeli - Jonathan Pollard who was caught for espionage in the U. S and the Almighty American carrier -the U. S. S Liberty that was sunk by Israel also and America didn't mete out a very appropriate response, all they got was a slap on the wrist kind of response.

Dude the fact is-Israel is the dog and America is the tail, and u know which controls which!

Did u hear the story of the "dancing Jews" that were at the scene of the September 11 attacks just before the attacks happened, they were seen with cameras ,it's most likely that MOSSAD knew what was to befall America, whether they shared the Intel with the C. I. A and they still refused to act is wat I don't know .
That is what the media wants you to believe.that US is controlled by Isreal.but
both are controlled by the Elites. aka fake jews ,
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity: The Religion Of The Poor by blueAgent(m): 7:04am On Sep 17, 2016
HardMirror:
" I will lift up my eyes to the hills,
From where comes my help?
My help comes from the Lord,
The maker of Heaven and Earth." [/i]
Psalms Whatever (can't recall now)

[b] Note: there are thousands of christian millionaires and lots of christian billionaires. So why is christianity a religion of the poor as I claim?


Everyday Millions of christians lift their eyes up to heaven, opening their mouths like chicks in a nest waiting for their mother to feed them their daily worm.
He that provides for the birds of the air, so they don't toil, shall he not provide for his children?

God is the consolation of the poor.
God is the reason why the rich and corrupt live in peace.

We are not of this world! [/b]

Our kingdom is yet to come.

Like poor Lazarus, many toil day and night serving slave masters. The modern rich man. The pastor that flies in private jets and has the best things in life, the politicians, the capitalists raking in fortunes and giving the employees peanuts even though they are the ones toiling to rake in the big profit for their masters.

[i] If our hope was in this world alone, then we are of all men most miserable


Oh yes! We suffer now, but praise be to God, we have mansions of Gold waiting for us beyond! We have untold riches in God!

Lay not for your self treasures where thieves and moths can take them, but lay up treasures in heaven. Where your treasure is there shall your heart be, no one can serve God and Mammon...

Don't desire riches, your comfort is in God, don't desire things that are temporal, desire the eternal kingdom of God.

Surely I tell you it will be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God!

Do not rebel or revolt against your leaders! All your leaders are ordained by God (not votes or force)

The clever antiques that has held humanity in the shackles of religion. The shackles holding nigeria.

Where God is at the very center of corruption.
Don't judge! Let God judge.
Pray for your leaders!

Pray for your pastor! Don't judge your pastor!

Don't desire the things rich people have!

Christianity the religion of the poor; the poor who wish to become rich, the poor who are ready to mingle with supposed sinners, the poor who sing "baba God, pick up my call", the poor who have joined in the corrupt system while still slaves to the system for all they do is pray for things to be better. We serve a rich God and I see no reason why we should not spend billions on mega churches and our pastors live large! Our God is rich!


Christianity an avenue for the rich to come to church in expensive cloths and in expensive cars so the poor can admire them, while they behave as if they are humble, but deep in their hearts they enjoy how they poor members wish to have things they have.

You still don't get it? Don't worry, I am enjoying every bit of it
Clown. People like you cannot differentiate b/w
Night from daytime. How is Christsinity
responsible for underacheivement of blacks?
You forgot that Africans were not Atheists. before
Colonization, They worshiped and served several
gods, which they still do till today.
Africans have always demonstrated poor
judgemental skills and lack the capacity to take
responsibility for their failures, even before
whites came to Africa.
Africans has always been Supersistious
They blame a bad harvest on the gods of fertility been angry, they believed that the cause of an
empidemic is becos the gods were angry,and
many more examples.
What about the Osu system in the East, the killing of Twins in Calabar,or the celeberation of new
yam festivals for better harvest.all this pratices
have existed in Africa even before the Whiteman came.
Even it was Christainity that stoped most of these pratices and introduced Science and Education to Africans.that enable us to have alternative
solutions to most our problems, like using
fertilizers to boost Harvest. rather than to believe on the gods ,for a good harvest.
The irony is that your ability to read and write is becos of the same whiteman and his religeon you are insulting.it was the same whiteman and his
christainity that Clothed you,gave you Education and capacity to mange your resources and even Expolit Science you hold in high esteem.
You are just too Dumb to know your left from
your right.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity: The Religion Of The Poor by blueAgent(m): 7:01am On Sep 17, 2016
The Bible says faith without work is dead. even if you remove religeon from Africans, they will still be poor.becos they are Selfish,greed,and mentally lazy.
Stop fooling yourself , Africans have lowIQ. their
problem is not religeon.
Which native intelligenece?
Haiti is rated one of the top 10 poorest countries
even after 200yrs of Independence and despite
having a religeon that is based on mostly
westAfrican traditional religeon.
Till today natives in parts of Papua New Guenia
still pratice Cannibalism, Human Sacrifice, and
idol worship.they have not been influenced by
Western religeon and culture, so why are they not
developed by now?
In East Africa. African traditional doctors request for body parts of Albinos inorder to make spell or charms for their Clients that will make them rich.is christainity also the cause.
Science/Technology › Re: Scientific Facts Expressed By The Bible,long Before Science Knew Them. by blueAgent(op): 6:47am On Sep 17, 2016
Nigayoyo:
No, I'm not dumb!.....The bible in Genesis explicitly refers to the Heavens as firmament as I had quoted Gen 1:9 in one of my replies above. Bro, the bible should be read in chronological order, you don't just start reading the bible from Exodus, otherwise you wouldn't know what brought the children of Israel into Egypt! Likewise you don't start reading the new testament, otherwise you wouldn't know about the 400 years of silence between Malachi and Matthew and what prophecy had went ahead of the birth of Yeshua Ha-Mashiach!

There is no explicit mention of the existence of other planets in the bible! Apologetics only interpret heavens to mean the universe, which is outright wrong!The truth is that the bible can be used to support ANY action of man, whether good or bad! So what men do is that they interpret the bible to support their bald claims!

For example, The same way you would say Yeshua is coming back again when it is clearly written, without ambiguity, in the bible that there will be no rapture and Yeshua ain't coming back! You doubt that? then go ahead and read Matt 24: 3-34...take note of verse 34 where It says " this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled" but the sad thing is you still have people proving his second coming is imminent! you say it's just a verse I've quoted?.......

okay now go to Luke 21:7-32...also take note of verse 32 where he was referring to the generation of his listeners NOT the generation of this 21st century!

So you see the crappiness of the bible? ....In fact, in Matt 24: 29 where Yeshua says "...and the stars shall fall from heaven" shocked shocked are there stars in the firmament? Hell NO! stars are not in the clouds! They are light years away from the planet earth! Now don't tell me the heaven he meant there was heavens because all translations I had read said "heaven"! Even Jesus never knew there were other planets outside the earth! Using my rational mind to study the bible was the first thing that drew me away from the imaginary Jesus.

In fact, I've got lots of things to write about the bible....I just hope you will also sit down and think about the authenticity of the bible...however, the only way to be convinced is by studying the bible with an unbiased mind, putting aside everything you may have been told by pastors and family while growing up.
Wish you the best on this planet.

I'm done with this thread!
You are making an argument were their is none.


How many heavens are there and what is the
third heaven Paul speaks of in 2 Corinthians
12:
The Hebrew word for “heavens” is shamayim, it is
in a plural form, meaning “heights,” “elevations.”
It is found in the first verse of the Bible (Genesis
1:1; 2:1). The Bible teaches in the beginning God
created the heavens and the earth, he did not
make another heaven after this time. The phrase
“heavens and earth” are used to indicate the
whole universe (Genesis 1:1; Jeremiah 23:24;
Acts 17:24). According to the Jewish tradition
from the Bible there were three heavens. All are
attributed to God as the creator. Psalm 102:25
“Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, and
the heavens are the work of Your hands.”
There are several other words used in the
Hebrew, the word marom is also used (Psalms
68:18; 93:4; 102:19, etc.) as equivalent to
shamayim. Hebrew galgal, literally a “wheel,” is
rendered “heaven” in Psalms 77:18 (RSV,
“whirlwind”). Hebrew shahak, is translated
“sky” (Deuteronomy 33:26; Job 37:18; Psalms
18:11), plural “clouds” (Job 35:5; 36:28; Psalms
68:34, “heavens”), referring to the firmament.
The Bible speaks of three heavens not 7 and these
are not dimensions). The first being our
immediate atmosphere, the second is outer space
as far as it stretches, and the third is the place
where God himself dwells. What Jesus called the
“Father's house.”
First heaven - The firmament, Earths Atmosphere
-which is the immediate sky, where the “fowls of
the heaven” (Genesis 2:19; 7:3,23; Psalms 8:8,
etc.), “the eagles of heaven” (Lamentations 4:19),
it is our atmosphere that surrounds the earth.
Gen 1:14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in
the firmament of the heavens to divide the day
from the night.” The first heaven consists of the
clouds and the atmosphere, the heavens above
us, until we come to the stars.
Psalms 78: 23-23 “Yet He had commanded the
clouds above, and opened the doors of heaven,
had rained down manna on them to eat, and
given them of the bread of heaven.”
The expression doors of heaven or windows of
heaven involved the firmament, our atmosphere.
Descriptions used of this heaven is from where
God would provide food or rain. Genesis
7:11-12: “the windows of heaven were opened.
And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty
nights.” Genesis 8:2: “The fountains of the deep
and the windows of heaven were also stopped,
and the rain from heaven was restrained” Malachi
3:10 Says the LORD of hosts, “If I will not open
for you the windows of heaven And pour out for
you such blessing That there will not be room
enough to receive it.” In reference to an abundant
harvest of crops.“
(Deuteronomy 11:17 “Then the LORD's anger will
burn against you, and he will shut the heavens so
that it will not rain and the ground will yield no
produce....” Deuteronomy 28:12: “The LORD will
open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty,
to send rain on your land in season and to bless
all the work of your hands.”
Second Heaven - Outer Space, the starry heavens
(Deuteronomy 17:3; Jeremiah 8:2; Matthew
24:29).
The second heaven is the starry heavens, where
our atmosphere ends. It is the heavens in which
the sun, moon, and stars are fixed in orbit. The
stars are seemingly endless and the distance
between all of them is staggering no wonder the
Bible states Psalm 19:1 “The heavens declare the
glory of God; and the firmament shows His
handiwork.” In ancient times people were in awe
of the starry expanse, today we know how
immense this really is.
The firmament, or expanse, raqiya` “In which the
sun, moon, stars, and constellations are fixed.”
Genesis 1:17: And God placed them in the
Firmament of heaven. Isaiah 40:22: He stretcheth
out the heavens as a CURTAIN, and spreadeth
them out as a tent to dwell in.”
(Psalm 19:4,6) - “In the heavens he has pitched a
tent for the sun... It rises at one end of the
heavens and makes its circuit to the
other;...” (Jeremiah 8:2) - They will be exposed to
the sun and the moon and all the stars of the
heavens which they have loved and served....”
Third Heaven - This is where God and the holy
angels (and creatures) and spirits of just men
dwell. It is called “The heaven of
heavens,” (Deuteronomy 10:14; 1 Kings 8:27;
Psalms 115:16; 148:4). (1Kings 8:27) - “The
heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain
you.” (Psalm 2:4) The One enthroned in heaven
laughs; The LORD scoffs at them.”
The third heaven is beyond the space and stars.
Where no man has seen by telescope. This
heaven is the dwelling-place of God, to which
Paul was taken, and whose wonders he was
permitted to behold-this region where God
dwells.
It is specifically named “the third heaven” by Paul
in 2 Cor.12:2. Paul mentions being caught up to
paradise in 2 Corinthians 12:4 the word
“paradise” describes a different facet of “the third
heaven.”
“2 Corinthians 12:4 The word “paradise”
paradeisos (NT:3808) occurs but three times in
the New Testament; Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians
12:4; Revelation 2:7. It occurs often in the
Septuagint, as the translation of the word garden;
Genesis 2:8-10,15-16; 3:1-3,8,16,23-24; 13:10;
Numbers 24:6; Isaiah 51:3; Ezekiel 28:13; 31:8-9;
Joel 2:3. And also Isaiah 1:30; Jeremiah 29:5;
and of the word pardeec (OT:6508) in Nehemiah
2:8; Ecclesiastes 2:5; Song of Solomon
2:13” (from Barnes' Notes).
Heb 4:14 “Seeing then that we have a great High
Priest who has passed through the heavens,
(Jesus ascended to the place he was before he
became man) Heb. 7:26 “For such a High Priest
was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless,
undefiled, separate from sinners, and has
become higher than the heavens” meaning he is
more important than the dwelling place of God
and angels. Heb 8:1 As our high Priest, he “is
seated at the right hand of the throne of the
Majesty in the heavens.”
The word “heavens” is also used for visions or a
spiritual event. Stephen said, “Look! I see the
heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at
the right hand of God!” (Acts 7:56) Mark 1:10
When Jesus was baptized “He saw the heavens
parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a
dove.”
The term heaven is used in a metaphor Isaiah
14:13,14; “doors of heaven” (Psalms 78:23);
heaven “shut” (1 Kings 8:35); “opened” (Ezekiel
1:1). (The “kingdom of heaven” (Mt.25:1; Jms 2:5)
. The “eternal kingdom” (2 Pt.1:11).The “eternal
inheritance” (1 Pt.1:4; Hebrews 9:15). The “better
country” (Hebrews 11:14, 16).
Heaven is the abode of the righteous who are in possession of “everlasting life,” “an eterna
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity: The Religion Of The Poor by blueAgent(m): 6:34am On Sep 17, 2016
Senseless post.
Education › Re: Nigerian Students Sue Alabama College For Treating Them ‘like Animals’ by blueAgent(m): 3:08pm On Sep 16, 2016
pippimp:
The funny thing is, back in Nigeria, you are all treated like dirt. Your own government treats you like you are sub human. But, when you go to a country where true freedom prevails, all of a sudden you remember that you have rights? Have you ever once asked yourselves why it is that it is only when America is involved you suddenly remember that you have rights?
Abeg tell this fools ,
Education › Re: Nigerian Students Sue Alabama College For Treating Them ‘like Animals’ by blueAgent(m): 3:02pm On Sep 16, 2016
Mztadhee:
So from the above story, its only this shit you could come up with se? Your fellow countrymen are fighting against oppression and uplifments of their treatment as equal human beings in a foreign land, you are here condemning your Fatherland. Slave mentality!
Clown, How many Nigerians fight for their rights and hold their leaders accountable? they only have mouth when they leave Nigerian Shores
Celebrities › Re: This Is What Happen When White Ladies Parties With Many Black Men (photos) by blueAgent(m): 2:51pm On Sep 16, 2016
Nectarbaba:
Lol. Seriously the non racial white women loves black men becus of our long, thick and strong d!ck.
Clown , your mates they put man for Space and you are here bragging over dick. no wonder the World do not take blacks serious.
Science/Technology › Re: Scientific Facts Expressed By The Bible,long Before Science Knew Them. by blueAgent(op): 2:46pm On Sep 16, 2016
Nigayoyo:
Didn't you see me cite 2 verses? verses 8 and 9 of Genesis chapter 1! Also, in verse 10, "And God called the dry land Earth..." So anytime you see earth in your damn bible it simply refers to the dry land! seems your bible is too contradictory for you huh.

Deut 10:14 also referred to the heavens as the firmament! or how would you say the highest heavens were referring to the other planets that make up the universe? The highest there would mean the planet earth was relatively lower in height, right? cheesy Now to think of that would be soooo dumb! It would take someone with an IQ of the first single number after a decimal point to think like that!

So I say that verse 14 was still referring to the highest firmament or the highest sky!

This is too early in the morning to start arguing with you....now lemme do some science and I'll be back!
Are you Dumb? the Heaven in Genesis refers to the cloud and atmosphere in our Planet (Earth) when the Heavens are used in another context that is not referring to the Earth. it means the Entire Universe.

2 Chronicles 2:6 But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Demonic Cobwebs Exist? by blueAgent(m): 2:44pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jectives:
Baba you're right baje, if one can sleep and floogged in his sleep only for them to wake up with headaches and marks... These things exist. Only people are being delusional.

But then I begin to wonder. Do the whites experience this? And am not talking Hollywood, i mean, do a normal life there like any other here in Africa experience such?? angry angry sad huh
Sure, they also have Demons and Satanist. but most are people who pratise it for personal power on like is who do those things against people.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Became A Satanist!( Must Read) Exposing Xtianity The Deceptiveness. by blueAgent(m): 2:22pm On Sep 16, 2016
Demigods666:
This is spiritual Satanism.

The other is Laveyan "satanism", this religious philosophy does not believe in Satan or the gods and are really atheists and only views him as an archetype for rebellion and the christian "seven sins" and imperfe their religion revolves around a book called the satanic bible made in the 70's by Anton Lavey.
**** they just got you to believe that.
The greatest lie the Devil has ever done is to make people believe he does not exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Became A Satanist!( Must Read) Exposing Xtianity The Deceptiveness. by blueAgent(m): 2:17pm On Sep 16, 2016
Demigods666:
People perish due to lack of knowledge

Before I go on, most people in religion section who once followed the original thread of why I became a satanists know about Demigods who once ventured into Satanism and almost lost his life right?

Well here I am, that demigods is me, here to debunk that mistake to tell you, that was a misconception I later found out on my own. grin I thought Jehovah was the true God after I left Satanism, only to get the shocker of my life... Anyway story for another day. grin


Now angry

The bible is a very powerful subliminal tool to control the masses. One can see this is a man-made work as there are endless contradictions. The bible has been systematically drummed into the minds of the populace from a very early age. A lie must always be enforced as opposed to the truth which can stand on its own. Because spiritual knowledge and occult power have been removed and kept in the hands of a "chosen" few, the unknowing populace has been helpless against it. The agenda here is to create a one-world slave state with the "chosen" few ruling at the top. The perpetrators of course blame Satan to create a necessary distraction, while they use occult power to accomplish their ends. They have a history of stealing from and blaming their enemies for everything they really are and do, while always holding themselves in the highest esteem and innocence angry





With fear, human beliefs and thoughts can be controlled. Humanity was led to believe this omnipresent and “all-powerful” “God” could know their every little thought and action. Through fear, people began to monitor their own thoughts and actions. The seven sacraments (another rip-off of the seven chakras) of the Catholic Church enforced strict control over every stage of an individual’s life. The most control was exercised through the so-called "sacrament" of “confession.” Through confession, the church had even more control, that of knowing the deepest secrets of the frightened population. This enabled the ruling clergy to have power over kings, queens and other secular monarchy


[color=#000000]The Gods left us the truth, inscribed in stone. The pyramids (the pyramids are in the shape of the chakras) have stood against time. It is apparent these ancient monoliths were constructed for future humanity, left to us by the Gods who knew of our fate. These monuments speak for themselves. They were built to reflect the movements of the stars and act as a calendar for beginning the all-important work of the Magnum Opus. The Magnum Opus is normally commenced in the spring, when the Sun enters the sign of Aries, which is known as the "Vernal Equinox." The precise time for beginning this work is at 3 am, which is the hour of Satan. This is the true hour. The fictitious nazarene was said to have perished at 3 pm. 3 pm is actually 15:00, not three and is thus false[/color]


Our Ancestors did not die for this, humanity is degenerating.
We have to help ourselves.
We have to research the truth
And not read just one information from the judeo false Bible


Common we are wiser than that.

Let's think, logic mind.

The whites think with their brain that's why they are far ahead of us!

Can't we think with our brain? Religion has eaten deeply into us!

Let's break away from this mind and mental slavery.

We are Gods, we are all encoded.

The power that lies within us is unlimited.

Everything you see in the world today came from various minds

From the gadgets you use

To the cars you drive

The airplane you fly in

The food you eat

The house you live in

Shows the simple power of the mind we have failed to use.


You all should watch this documentary and discover the Truth



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=libjzX9RRmU

More updates coming soon.
Another confused Clown.keep it up.
Crime › Re: Jealous Lady Murders Her Ex-Boyfriend's Girlfriend After Threatening To Do So by blueAgent(m): 1:59pm On Sep 16, 2016
preetyslim:
Killed ur fellow girl all bcux of Dick! Na so ur ex bf thing dey sweet dat u can't share it wit any other girl? Smh shocked Rip Kendra
Lol...its like it is sugar coated.
Crime › Re: Jealous Lady Murders Her Ex-Boyfriend's Girlfriend After Threatening To Do So by blueAgent(m): 1:56pm On Sep 16, 2016
gypsey:
it boggles the mind! some times one wonders are black people as a whole cursed? if any thing lessons should have been learnt from slavery days.

A lot of lives have been destroyed now as a result of this murder, the mudered dies, the murderer gets death penalty perhaps, the children of both "baby mamas" grows up without their "mamas" and turns into drug addict, dealers and murderers and the circle goes on.
I also think so, blacks are so dumb that they don't know how dumb they are.
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Atheism by blueAgent(m): 1:37pm On Sep 16, 2016
raphieMontella:
like it or not dude.. Evolution is a fact... EOD
What made it a fact,? can you give us evidence
Science/Technology › Re: Scientific Facts Expressed By The Bible,long Before Science Knew Them. by blueAgent(op): 1:33pm On Sep 16, 2016
Nigayoyo:
I didn't want to comment but I felt I should guide seekers of knowledge who might read this thread in the future.... The bible did NOT refer to the universe as the heavens!
If you read through Gen 1:8 you will see this: "And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day." (NKJV)
Verse 9 said " Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear" (NKJV)

So from verse 9 you are saying, the bible meant "let the waters under the UNIVERSE...."huh? that doesn't make any sense bro!

The holy spirit, writing through 'Moses', did not know there were other planets outside the earth so he wouldn't have known anything about the UNIVERSE!

I had a certificate in theology before I became an atheist so don't mislead naive minds please....good night
Another Clown. you just pick one verse to support your little argurement.
The same Bible refers to Heavens of Heaven.

Deuteronomy 10:14
…13and to keep the LORD'S commandments and His statutes which I am commanding you today for your good? 14"Behold, to the LORD your God belong heaven and the highest heavens, the earth and all that is in it. 15"Yet on your fathers did the
LORD set His affection to love them, and He
chose their descendants after them, even you
above all peoples, as it is this day.…

I guess that's why u left theology it is too diffcult for you and your little ego to understand
Science/Technology › Re: Scientific Facts Expressed By The Bible,long Before Science Knew Them. by blueAgent(op): 1:23pm On Sep 16, 2016
Teempakguy:
Look at this guy sha. After opening a thread to explain exactly how and why science proves that God exists, When he's called out, quickly claims that whoever connects science to religion is a fool. Inadvertently calling himself one.

of course, that's after he claims the bible is not a science textbook on the very thread he created to show just how much of a "science textbook" the bible is.

I can't take you seriously if you keep behaving like this, man. get your logic under control!


BTW, Economics can be used to understand and treat malaria. After all, every drug developed to combat the disease have economic effects.
your Ingnorance is Epic. the purpose of this article was not to prove that the Bible is a Science book or that it can be used to subsitute Science books, NO. the purpose is to show that God inspired the Bible and only God could have inspired those who wrote those facts to know them considering how long it took science to know this Scientific facts.

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