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cloudgoddess:
If you actually understood what evolution was/how it worked, you would have not made that statement.

So what is Evolution?

4everGod:
Thats not the point. The point is, why was it accepted as part of mans evolutionary process without initial proper checks? It was obviously based on personal recognition.

If it was based on personal recognition then that means there are possibly other scientific submissions about evolution that were also accepted without necessary checks.

This is why we say that SCIENCE NEVER LIES BUT SCIENTISTS DO!

Science is not Human ,so how will it lie?
Is Atheists like you that twist Science to suit your fantasy.

School District To Distribute Satanic
Literature To Students On April 1
Nope, not an April Fools’ Day joke.

Delluded Nigerian Atheists cliam that Western countries have abandoned christainity and that most are becoming atheists.note
Atheisism is the Belief that their is no God or gods.
But contrary to this believe. The western countries are not abondoning christainity for Atheisms, but rather they are promoting Satanism. They removed the Story of Bible creation from been taught to Children in Schools,and introduced Satanic books and stories ,to be taught in there schools to Children.
This confirms the belief that Atheisms was invented by Satanist to decieve Gulliable people to believe their is no God and to create uncertainity among Christains while promoting its true objectives and that is Satanism. Athiesm has never been about Science. It is a religeon a false one  just like Idol worship.

After a series of complaints from Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), the Satanic Temple and Western Colorado Atheists and Freethinkers, the Delta County School District caved in and will provide students their books on April 1 —without parental consent.
FFRF Co-President Dan Barker made it clear that the demands to distribute satanic books were made in retaliation to Gideon Bibles being passively handed out during school hours to students.
"The Delta County School District could have
resolved the issue by not allowing religious
groups inside their schools," Barker expressed in
a FFRF news release, according to The Christian
Post. "But since it has chosen to be obdurate, it's left us with no option than to respond to the religious propagandizing."
The anti-Christian organization also argued earlier this month that school district officials’ previous refusal to hand out books hurt taxpayers.
“[P]ublic schools have previously attempted to
deny FFRF permission to distribute literature,”
FFRF Staff Attorney Andrew Seidel contended.
“That resulted in a lawsuit that cost the [Orange]
County Public Schools nearly $90,000, and they
ended up approving all the literature for
distribution anyway. Shortly after approving all
the literature they closed the literature
distribution forum — what FFRF had been asking
for (and what FFRF has been asking DCSD 50J for)
from the beginning."
Focus on the Family Education Analyst Candi
Cushman disagrees with the reasoning behind
allowing the atheist groups to distribute their
allegedly problematic literature.
"[C]ommon-sense standards of decency should
apply to these [books]," Cushman told The
Christian Post. "From the images displayed on
recent television reports on this story, it appears
that some of the materials may be disparaging of other religious viewpoints and even lewd in their depictions. So a decision to make this literature
available to students should also be reviewed in light of other school policies that may protect students' exposure to inappropriately lewd.

The Truth will prevail
Despite her belief that the satanic and atheistic
literature is detrimental to students’ development,
Cushman notes that the Colorado school
district’s desire to open up its campuses to a
variety of beliefs is a good thing.
“[I]t is commendable that the school is making an effort to avoid unconstitutional discrimination in a public forum against a group simply because of its faith-based perspective," the Christian expert in education stated. "As Americans, we believe the truth will rise to the surface when allowed to be heard.”
She contends that the God’s Truth will ultimately win against Satan’s lies.
“As Christians, we know the truth of the Bible will win out in a competition with any other belief system," Cushman continued. "It would be unfortunate to let intimidation from groups —
with an apparent agenda of shutting a public
forum down — to succeed in censorship for all."After the recent controversy revolving around the satanic book distribution and concessions made by schools in Colorado, a local news outlet announced that officials from Delta County School District are now considering revising their policy when it comes to the distribution of literature on school campuses.
"The Delta County School District says that their policy reads that they cannot discriminate against any groups or organizations when it comes to
non-curricular materials," KJCT Channel 8
reported.
A press release distributed by Delta School
District officials states that it will only protect
students from several types of literature or
materials.
"The only exceptions are if the material promotes hostility or violence, commercial purposes by advertising a product, interferes with the schools,promotes candidacy in an election or is obscene or pornographic,” the district announced.
So instead of them to produce science articles for Children the now produce Books on Satan.
What has Evolution has to do with Satan?

Www. m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56fd3ff0e4b083f5c606f5fe

SirWere:
Yes yes yes. We see how threads like this litter the internet everyday.

Besides, who were the people who officially declared it a forgery? Creationist Hell No. It was biologists who accepted evolution and saw the obvious disrepancies in the fossil.


And I'm agnostic. Don't get your point

Which Biologist clown?

Edenoscar:
So am I suppose to become a christian after reading this?

No just hide your face in Shame Clown.

jmichlins:
you had to resort to science to prove science wrong, what do we use to prove religion teaching like earth been the center of the universe wrong. I keep telling my fellow theist to keep on their lane and not force your teachings upon others. Live and let live is the true way of life

You are an Atheists just hidding his identity.shame on you.

frank317:
So what has being an atheist got to with adding or not adding value to human life?

Pls don't tell me that as old as u are, u still don't know the meaning of atheism.

Oh pls for how long will Christians continue to display their ignorance on public forum

Clown ,show us what you have done for humanity other than same-sex miarrage and increase in immorality.

It is  a well known fact, that Europe regarded as the  richest and most Civilized Continent in the world,  attributes their growth and Success to Christanity.

Christains have contributed So much to  Civilization and they  still do so now, as examplified by the Redeemed Christain Church of God Lagos.

Lagos State Governor, Akinwunmi Ambode
…As He Commissions Traffic Lights In Lagos.

The Lagos State Governor, Akinwunmi
Ambode, has enjoined all motorists in the
state to obey traffic lights for smooth flow of
traffic on the major roads. The governor
stated this on Friday, while commissioning
traffic lights at Akinbolagbe Street/Ligali
Ayorinde Road and Chief Yesufu Abiodun
Oniru Road junction on Victoria Island, which
were donated by the Redeemed Christian
Church of God, City of David Region 20,
Lagos Province 4, Zone 8 Area 004, Victoria
Island, Lagos.
Speaking through his Special Adviser on
Transportation, Prince Olanrewaju Elegushi,
Ambode commended the pastorate and
members of the Parish for supporting the
state government’s policies and programmes,
especially the donation of the traffic lights.
Responding, Pastor Idowu Iluyomade, Senior
Pastor of the Redeemed Christian Church of
God, City of David Region 20, Lagos Province
4, Zone 8 Area 004, Victoria Island, Lagos,
said:

“The decision to donate the traffic lights was
borne out of the desire to ensure easy flow
of traffic, we noticed that the Oba Yesufu
Oniru/COD Church Road became an
alternative route for many vehicles that want
to by-pass the toll plaza, after commissioning
the Lekki Freeway a few years ago. This
brought a significantly high vehicular traffic
into the estate and regular gridlocks on the
road.”

m.guardian.ng/news/ambode-tasks-motorists-on-traffic/

The question is what has Atheism done for Mankind?

Cutehector:
Those who manage the Nigerian oil and gas industry only think of their pockets and forget the future of Nigeria.

True . very sad situation.

Teempakguy:
And intelligence is required to know this . . . how? are there any logical steps that can be carried out to reach this conclusion?

When you read your Bible often, you will be able to discern evil from truth.

The increase in demand for natural gas as a subsitute fuel for coal in power generation ,coupled with increase growth in world energy demand . Has led companies to exploit new means to monenitize offshore gas fields or stranded gas fields.
  Stranded gas fields are offshore gas fields that are located  several miles from the shore and are not feasible to produce due to lack of infastructure.
   Floating Lng  offers Oil&Gas companies means to develop stranded or offshore gasfields economically with little impact on the enivornment.Flng is synomous of FPSO(a floating production,Storage and offloading vessel) which   process and stores oil offshore.

A FloatingLNG  is a Ship or a Barge that has an LNG plant built on it, with the capacity to liquefy gas, store the LNG,and produced  LPG(liquified petroleum gas) and NGL (Natural gas liquids)as well as offloading them to LNGcarriers.

Developing FLNG ships require a lot of technical and Economic inputs. Safety measures must be implemented in the design of this vessels and also measures to mitigate the effects of Process Harzards that are inherent in process plants with limited space must also be incorporated in the design.other challenges are issue of loading and offloading at turbulent seas,sloshing in partial filled tanks,effect of sea motion on vessels.
A close collobration between the Oil majors and Oil Serviceing and Equipment providers have led to breakthrough in solving most of this Challenges.

The FLNG offers a lot of opportunities to not only the Oil&Gas Operators ,but also to governments(Resources Owners) job market,Oil&Gas servicing Companies and contractors. It has the pontential to create thousands of jobs both in the Construction and operating phase,aswell as  provide Revenue to governments .with this in view  the World and especially the Energy industry was exicted when PETRONAS offically unvielled the World first
FloatingLNG vessel PFLNG SATU in the Month of March .the Vessel will be moored at the Kanowit gas field 180KM(112miles) offshore Sarawak ,Malaysia . it has capacity to produce 1.2Million metric tonnes of LNG per year. DSME-TECHNIP Consortuim performed the engineering ,procurement &
Construction work for the Vessel and Topsides.

This is a major milestone for the entire Energy Industry and one that holds good fortune for everyone.

It is a pity that Petronas, which is a State owned Oil company of Malaysia, is breaking new grounds and expanding globally .while Our  NNPC is still crippled  with Corruption and incompetency .they are still enable to thrive in their local Domain,how much more to compete with their peers .Petronas(Malaysia)Petrobras(Brazil) Statoil(Norway) and SaudiAramaco( Saudi Arabia).

Teempakguy:
it is not "believe", it's "belief"
And it is not a belief. It is a fact.

Your religious delusions do little to change reality.

I did not ask you, to show your English skills.Simply prove your facts.

Mizblinks:
I've tried that severally but can't come up with something tangible... Maybe you should help me with that... Thanks anyways.

You did not Search well.

johnydon22:
There have been a lot of Notable very influential Christian scientists whose works influenced many of our modern works.

If you are asking how Christianity influenced modern science in term of renown individual scientists who were christians then very many of them like:

Rev Fr Georges Lamietre - A catholic priest who first propounded the Big bang theory.

Isaac Newton - you may hear about Caculus or laws of motion.

Christiaan Hygenes

Johanness Kepler - who once had gone to the protestant seminary, i cannot say for sure if he remained a Christian till death though.

Very many of them but if you are asking what Christianity as an organized institution has done for development of modern science then i'd say nothing much as a matter of fact early science got a whole lot of persecution from the Church.

Like any scientist who taught Heliocentric solar system and not the geocentric system the church taught was either imprisioned or burnt at the stake for heresy - Gelileo was almost certainly a victim.

Giordano Bruno a catholic priest was burnt at the stake for heresy by the church because he held a view that there are more planets and life existed on them.

The church strived to contain and control scientific studies and aggresively opposed any scientific idea that were in direct contradiction to what the church taught.

But in the 21st century; christiandom is stepping up, vatican has in collaboration with NASA a large telescope for astronomical studies named LUCIFER.

I think they are more so stepping slowly into scientific grounds having realizing that earth is evolving into a society that will soon neglect and chastise ideas consonant with scientific facts.

Vatican is not the representative of Christians. Vatican is the mysterious Babaylon the City on 7Hills prophcised by the Bible.
I know you are too Dumb to know this.

Mizblinks:
Someone should help me identify the contributions of Christianity to the modern science and technology please... Thanks in advance.

Cc: johnydon22, ogaemma, blueAgent, mrphysics et el....

You can google it.

Teempakguy:
I'm not one to trifle with in matters of logic and argument. I suggest you pick on some person your own size. The fact that you still think irreducible complexity has logical viability gives you away as low hanging fruit.

Go and sleep.

You cannot defend or express your Believe. you are pathetic.

UuzbaGuuzba:
Don't worry. FIRST GO ABROAD and see with your eyes. White people look down on us blacks. THEN YOU BLACK, WILL STILL GIVE THEM CHANCE to LOOK DOWN ON YOU AGAIN.

I can relate to EVERTHING olaboy posted above.

Blacks, look, and act in a manner that they are looked down upon.

HCpaul:
What an ignoramus homo sapient, a vacuous and ignominious hoity-toity. Inane and injudicious claim calibrated with a deadpan and ludicrous assertion.

I will advice you to go and study the philosophy of science and come back to decelerate your irregular and expressionless assertions.

According to science, a belief in a supernatural being is a personal issue and not a scientific approach.
I saw one of Winners01 post arraying enormous names of Christian scientists.

So you people think that your God is happy with Galileo Galilei who is an astronomer? And you are surkm that the guy is a real Christian? Confused Christians...

if you are not ignorant of the Book you are carrying, you will realize that the day you start looking up to the sky and putting the cosmic into imagination, you have just create for yourself barricades that will eternally disqualify you from been a Christian.
Science itself is an atheist while scientific theories are formulated atheism based.
A real pastor will always pray that some limitations should emerge in science.
One of my brother who is a seminarian wasn't happy when I told him that NASA will soon be launching people to Mars in some years to come as well as citing in his head the curiosity mars rover used for the exploration of living organisms on mars.
My brother face changed and he was unhappy for a moment. Knowing their chances of progress, my brother said "If they succeed, it is God; If they didn't, it is still God."
As a science student, I was able to identify the misconception of proposition and how a condition cannot be true and false at the same time, then I realized what religion has done to Africa. They are not just happy for scientific achievements while their pastors will keep preaching the limitations of science on the alter just to deceive the multitudes.

If not for scientific fields like philosophy and its subset (theology), did you think that religion like (Christianity) will still stand?

That a person have not declaim himself as an atheist doesn't imply that he is a Christian, and that a person make quotations on religions doesn't disqualify him for been an atheist.
Winners01 is a typical example of such person who keep making this silly mistake.

Sometimes, I do make quotes that seems to favour religionists but that doesn't qualify me as a Christian.

No scientists will spend 30 minutes in praying not to talk of hours, spending hours in reading the Bible (a single book) everyday till they eventually depart from the land of the living, Paying tithes and offerings when they have scientific projects to spend their money on, joining a service unit (drama, choir, instrumentalist, ushers) when they know within themselves that they just don't have the time, and to crown it all, going to church everyday (endlessly) just to consume their time spent on knowledge exploration.

How can people be spending their hours in church everyday and be expecting changes in the country??
Praying for blessing and expecting to be richer than Bill??
Just don't get it.

Those folks ain't Christian at all but an untitled freethinkers who are still incarcerated by the philosophy of religion and not its delusion.

Science can only be approached as an atheist.

We don't see a rainbow and start praising God like that my brother without knowing and not ready to know the conditions attached to such occurence.
We instead discovers the whys and the hows behind it.

I love Gate sha when he utterly declared that he often goes to church since he has a lot to do on a Sunday morning and he's busy on his allocation on time resources.
Yet, the guy have never declare himself as an atheist but is he a Christian based on the above statement?

Sincere answer please.

Clown .Bill Gates daddy is a pastor. secondly all the Celeberity Atheists are all Satanist. they only front as atheists in public to decieve gulliable people like you.

johnydon22:
Sorry for the delay my brother, work isn't giving me much NL time



Yes, means this universe is almost certainly not the first to have existed or the last to



Our existence is no more than a mere blink in the cosmic duration, so we almkst certainly will be long gone from the cosmic field before these events happen.

I will invite you and HCpaul to my thread 'Songs of the worlds' Come and enjoy the orchestra.

Its Obvious you are Depressed.

Dawdy:
Sadly, evolutionists use the fallacy that, you don’t need any intellect, design, information and purpose to produce anything and everything that exists.
The magic ingredient is time, just wait long enough and it will happen. If it doesn’t happen just give it more time.
I call that blind faith.

I call it Insanity.
The funny thing is this Clowns do not do research about the World around them.they don't ask questions .how did magic come into existence ,why are their Satanist and Occultist Elites.e.t.c the Bible even said that when strange things begin to Occur. people Should know that the time is near. this Zombies should read inbetween the lines and see that the World events and NEW WORLD ORDER movement is a step in actualizing Bible prophecy of the government of Anti -Christ.


www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/signs_of_satan.htm

Teempakguy:
I'm tired of this incessant arguing back and forth. Perhaps the most annoying aspect is how the OP has the audacity to bring religious hogwash into the science section. That is not needed here, there is an entire section devoted to arguments like this. this section should be devoted to actual science.

After all the arguing back and forth, the ONLY logical stance to take is

"We do not know if there is a God or Not."

The stance of Agnosticism. whether atheistic or theistic, I don't care. But the moment someone tries to push for certainty for a supernatural deity, and dares to drag science into it, They will be put in their place with sound logic as johnydon22 has so eloquently done.

Shame on You. i used your own Argument to disprove your Evolution.Clown

adegeye38:
From the perspective of an observant human...
What is nature?

What kind of rules govern nature?

What if nature itself is the manifestation of a simple entity(God) designing a complex universe?
and as scientists unravel the mysteries of the universe they are just unravelling the awesomeness of the creator in the form of nature?

What is time?

At what point did time begin?

If God had existed before the begining of TIME then it answers so many questions

1) God was never created cos there was no need for his creation.
2) he was existing before beginning began and will still be existing after the end hence he is the begining and also the end.
3) It is proven and accepted that whatever has a beginning will surely have an end, and the universe was designed in such a way that there is always a beginning and an end (in which the bible emphasized on). In which we are also witnessing tday.
Taking time to understand who God is essential.

Science and religion are not enemies, science can learn a lot from religion.

Do you know that as science unravels the mystery, the complexity, the awesomeness of the universe IT IS ONLY LOGICAL AND MUCH MORE EASIER TO BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD MORE THAN TO BELIEVE IN A IN THE EVOLUTION, BIG BANG AND CHANCE THEORY.

AND DONT FORGET IT IS ONLY A THEORY...AN ASSUMPTION.

LETS TAKE SPACE AS AN EXAMPLE
SPACE IS A GIGANTIC AND UNIMAGINABLE "SPACE" FILLED WITH GALAXIES, STARS ,COSMOS, SUN, BLACK HOLES, AND UNKNOWN ENERGY KNOWN AS DARK MATTER.

IT IS ONLY LOGICAL TO BELIEVE THAT NATURE IS A MANIFESTATION OF A SUPREME CREATOR, THAN TO USE A MATHEMATICAL THEORY TO TRY TO PROVE HOW THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED

IT TAKES A LOT OF FAITH TO BELIEVE TOTALLY WITHOUT DOUBT IN A THEORY AS LAME AS EVOLUTION AND BIG BANG THAN TO BELIEVE IN GOD

ATHEISM is a RELIGION
For the feeble minded who are scared about the possibility of being accountable to a supreme being

I LOVE SCIENCE A LOT, BUT I DONT THINK SCIENCE MAKES THE EXISTENCE OF GOD A DOUBT.
IT ONLY COMPLIMENT IT.

CONCLUSION:- science is still evolving there is still so much to learn and a lot of theories still to be proven( including evolution and big bang) and a lot of previous proven facts still to be disproven by new discoveries.

AS WE GO ABOUT UNRAVELING THE MYSTERY LETS KEEP AN OPEN MIND.
AND ITS BETTER TO LIVE YOUR LIFE LIKE THERE IS A GOD AND FIND OUT THERE IS ISN'T THAN TO LIVE YOUR LIFE LIKE THERE ISN'T AND LATER FIND OUT THERE IS.

PSALM 14 verse 1:The FOOL says in his heart, "GOD DOES NOT EXIST

FACT: my entire life is a big proof of God's existence.

ALL IN ALL THERE IS MORE TO THIS VERY COMPLEX UNIVERSE THAN WHAT WE SEE.

Nice writeup Bro.

This Science School of thought : Argument of perfection or irreducible complexity states that living Organisms exhbit features that have such complex interdependency of parts that an open-minded Observer will recognize them as the product of an intelligent Creator.

winner01:
So what is atheism and why are you spreading it, if it is not a thing.

Atheism is code name for insanity.

winner01:
A-theism literally means not theist. Very well, then: we know what it is not. But what is it?

Perhaps it’s like an onion: you peel and peel it, and discover that there is no core. Its basis is nothing at all.


People should notice that atheists never discuss how atheism would improve, strengthen, or otherwise change theirs or others’ lives for the better. Instead they spend their whole lives criticizing their Creator and religion.


Why can’t atheists be content in talking about their own worldview, in their own circles; rather than constantly bitching and complaining about what they are not/what they used to be? Do they have problems letting go of their past?


They keep telling us that once you are religious, your brain becomes dormant. But these great scientists proved otherwise.

The repeat it even louder - that freethinking is exclusively meant for atheists, but these ones have shown otherwise.


Do they think these people were crazy or something. Or are they saying this because of their hatred for God or unwarranted bigotry.



Also, according to 100 Years of Nobel Prizes, a review of Nobel prizes award between 1901 and 2000 reveals that (65.4%) of Nobel Prizes Laureates, have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference. Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine, 54% in Economics and 49.5% of all Literature awards. We have also seen the successes of countries such as USA, UK and others, that have unofficially labeled themselves as Christian countries in the past.

Note: I’ve not included the successes of any other religion here, I’m simply emphasizing the products of Christianity.



I'm not sure of the contribution of atheism to the progress of humanity, but one thing i'm sure of is that atheists who found their way to power have tried to impose atheism on innocent people to no reasonable end.
I also know that atheists all over the world could be intolerant of christianity especially. --- even on nairaland.
I also know that terrorism from atheists has ridden-ed almost every atheist country that have ever existed.

So what exactly has atheism done for humanity and why do atheists terribly want people to join them in their irrational unbelief in our supreme Creator?

Nice writeup. but are you really expecting an answer from this Clowns? they know atheists can not boost of anything.

eshietIntrepid:
I never said I am.

I never said you were.

Belarium:
Your are quoting out of context. That is in response to his internet quotation of Baker Hughes Global Revenue. He didn't take it into consideration the merger pay which BHI has used to buy back shares and offset loans

He said Baker Hughes were making money in Nigeria ,despite the drop in oil price and i asked him how.is Nigerian oil industry isolated from the global oil industry?

Heryorh:
u sure about this

Sure it is online.

kenkenn:
Wow...Nice research.

For Chelsea, one man caused the hatred---

JOSE MOURINHO and then DIEGO COSTA

Lol....I think people hate Chelsea becos of their unexpected success during Mourinho's first time at CFC. not really becos of Mourinho, Inter and Madrid were not hated much, when he was their.

kenkenn:
For Leicester, they are having a positive rating everywhere cos they've gat no "Hated Rivals" but that will come soon if they repeat the feat of last season.

THIS DESERVES A FRONTPAGE

Not true. i think people just don't hate a club becos of their success , rather more Success could win them more fans

eshietIntrepid:
You can surpress a man forever, the governmental structure of this world is only programmed to favour the few privillage.

This explain why conflict will never end.

Who are the few priveledged?

TrajansKong:
Still haven't answered my questions.

Who are you?

Why are you here?

What are your solutions to the issues raised by the OP?

Can Jesus or Hendrik Verwoerd supply you with an answer, blueAgent??

Iam not Obliged to answer your questions.
Till Africans become honest to themselves and work hard rather than blame others , nothing will get better.