iamoyindamola: What point? That we sold an average player for a good money, we should be worried about those who approved buying Pepe instead. I still insist we didn't miss it regret selling iwobi Well your opinion matters and mine also
U see ehn.....Some Arsenal fans have been so used to mediocrity. If u tell dem Iwobi was average they will not agree. We sold a player that refused to grow from potential into a star dem dey wail.
Somebody that even Everton fans are slating for being disappointing and overpriced.......smh. Instead make we do Thanksgiving say we Maga dem, our people dey grumble like Israelites wey wan go back Egypt
Spy360: You are the one that is misunderstanding mostob. He didn't say Iwobi is KDB or Silva. He said at that time when we had shiits in our squad Iwobi was our most creative player that his problem was scoring, that if he had still been around with Arteta working on him we probably wouldn't need Aouar.
Sometimes sentiments make people lose comprehension, but you can clarify things with simple questions and answer.
First iamoyindamola claimed he was not a starter and requested for stats which Jodera provided enough of, yet you guys still argue facts that are glaring.
This is the nonsense I hate on this thread. Arguing without direction.
Whatever makes u sleep at night.
The fact is he is gone and rightfully so. Arteta is here building a team that will compete with other top teams trying to get an Aouar which he believes will fit into his plan. Anybody that feels like watching Ìwobi do his audio creative play should pray he makes Everton's Carabao cup and watch him there
Kbs468: Mikel Arteta on a defensive playstyle: “I’m here to win. I’m here to find ways to do it. The players we have available can change our game plan. We have to be able to adapt. I think in football now, one way doesn’t work unless you are superior to the opponent all the time.” #afc
Arteta: “Sometimes it’s what you want to do as a coach & are allowed to do with the level of players & performance that top teams can do against you. [In those games] we had to defend deeper than we would like to, but we have to prepare for the games finding scenarios to win.”
mostob: Agreed he won't make their starting line up regularly but as a Youth championship best player,he should be at worst a squad player yet Madrid preferred 17yo Mavin to him. SMH Iwobi created the highest goalscoring chances in his last season with us. I still don't know why you can't comprehend my POV ..''Iwobi was sold at the wrong time''.. and here you are dragging the young man. I don't attach sentiment to any player too.If we had replaced him with maybe Isco or Coutinho,this argument won't surface. But bro, You really need to watch Football and understand what a player brings to the team. We were all here when you were criticizing Xhaka and Guen but......let me stop here. And if you can't get my point quoted above, you are OYO. And can you please continue to drag Iwobi pls
Smh. This one thinks Real Madrid is Arsenal that will carry dem future prospects knack for team when they should be on loan getting first team action to develop them for a greater future at the club.
Everybody that follows the situation at Madrid knows Ceballos is a future project. A wise Ceballos would prefer to start at Arsenal because of the upcoming Euros instead of being a squad player at madrid which u suggest. That's how players make smart decision.
But what Am I even saying sef? In a bid for u to cover Iwobi (the non starter at Everton's) yansh u are here trying to drag Ceballos who is a regular at Arsenal and one of the stars in our resurgent midfield under Arteta..... . It is really laughable. Nice try.
When Ìwobi starts creating those audio chances at Everton you can call my attention. I will be here.
mostob: The same Ceballos? How come he couldn't even make their starting line up.? Even a certain 17year old Marvin made his debut last weekend. Oga Iwobi 's sale was a wrong move. Finito I too have moved on ... the way you dey rubbish the guy was what brought all these arguments.
He will start at Madrid because he will kill players like Modric, Kroos etc at their prime so that he can start ahead of dem àbí?....smh
Iwobi played at Arsenal and couldn't establish himself as a mainstay. Alaye rest. This Iwobi image laundering we no dey buy am.
I no rubbish anything, I warned u I was going to drag him. You failed to bring any proof to back Ur claim of "Iwobi was our best playmaker".
Some of us do not attach sentiments to any player, we say it as we see it. Never will we support players to stay at the club with little improvement in their game. The Era of players turning out to be theo Walcott has gone. You don't live up to expectations; u move!
mostob: Ceballos is more or less a mere squad player in Madrid... Even the Aouar we are chasing, It is a gamble.
lolz.
Ceballos that was European U-21 best player. E get reason why Zidane gree sell am......shey na that one u dey use compare Alex "potential" Iwobi? Whether u agree or not the fact is ; Iwobi had his chances. His time is past.
We have moved from those kind of players to getting players that fit into project Arteta like Aouar. Anybody that still wants to watch Iwobi should go and pray He at least makes Everton's Carabao cup team so they can see him do his thing
iamoyindamola: I think it's another iwobi they are talking about
U dey mind dem? By the time they watch him move from one lowly team to the other till he gets to backwater league teams, their eyes go clear say Iwobi na Dem Bojan Krkic people wey na potential we see till old age.
kokaneprodigy: Iwobi not making first team under Emery is not a criterion to judge him at all, keywords here “under Emery”. Emery’s first team where players like Willock, Nelson, Guendouzi were starters while the likes of Laca, Ceb, Ozil, were bench warmers?
U are not getting it. Ìwobi regressed , he couldn’t hold down a starting shirt . He never transformed from the potential we saw in his breakout season till he was condemn to the bench and sold. He’s still unable to start for Everton as well.
mostob: Oga ..Iwobi was our best playmaker. Ozil was inconsistent then and who else do we have?... Willock..Even in some match, Emery had to push Torrera forward. Since Iwobi left,why do you think we struggle to create chances? I'm not saying Iwobi is world class but his sale was wrong. Why? 1. Arsenal should have realized how much Ozil was declining then and the fact that there was no other playmaker.
2. What is the use of going for Aouar with Partey deal left hanging when Iwobi could have easily fill the void albeit free of charge? That Aouar fee could have been used for Partey deal.
I asked you for "facts and figures" showing he was "our best playmaker". Abi shey playmaker na by mouth?
We have thrashed that okpata yarns about "Ìwobi's sale being wrong" over and over here. You are talking about Ozil being inconsistent like say Ìwobi's best output is not just 6 assists in a season which is even a one-off . If inconsistency was a drug I tell u, Iwobi was on overdose of it while at Arsenal. He was on the way to pulling a Walcott on us ; remaining as a potential till he is in his late 20's when to sell him for 10 million sef will be Herculean task.
I honestly don't know where you suddenly got this notion of Ìwobi being the best thing after slice bread o.
Which void would Ìwobi have filled free of charge? . Arsenal fans sef ehn. When we had many average players here and there and we couldn't compete with local rivals in competitive match we were complaining about the crop of players we had in dem Ìwobi and Co.....Now the club is trying to change that narrative and bring in players that have proven records to assist build a team that compete both in the league and Europe we are suddenly hearing of Ìwobi's audio exploits. I can agree with you on any other thing ó, but saying Ozil's sale was wrong lailai.
mostob: Drag am ...you are free..but the fact still remain that Iwobi was our best playmaker before he was sold. The fact that he didn't do a KDB every match doesn't mean the guy is bad.
Which yeye playmaker? Which year was that exactly?
Bring out facts and figures to back this ur claim of “our best playmaker” . Show me why his sale was wrong. I want to check something
BOFREJO: on being linked with Jorginho at Chelsea…
We are still open to improve our team, we are looking for different options depending on what happens with some of our players here so we are getting prepared just in case we need to do something."
excerpt from Arteta Press conference
We dey here dey always fight ourselves last year say Xhaka no Sabi tackle....he's not good enough etc all because he is not fitted into the role he's been assigned in the team.
Gaskiya! If Arteta should do mistake sign Escortinho laidis, Iamoyindamola and Spy360 go off cloth fight each other ni....especially when he begins his Escort services in our midfield worse than Xhaka's worst moments sef
Roland17: He can join the queue and stand behind RVP, Cashley Cole, Fab (I hope Xavi shared some of those trophies and medals with him and Barcelona retired his jersey), Sanchez, Nasri and others who left the club acrimoniously and are now aggressively seeking Arsenal’s attention because the club they ditched us for don’t regard them as players worth more legends. #Weknowourlegends
Honestly I hate Koscienly for that nonsense stunt he did with his useless unveiling. He deserves no further attention than the one he already received when that video hit the internet.
As in, of all those ungrateful bunch u mentioned up there Koscienly was the most foooolish amongst them. If he's not foooolish he would've seen how his former defence partner Matersacker is respected for his years of service and even still works at Arsenal as part of his reward. I can understand the reasons some of the players who left in controversial manner gave for taking those decisions but I would never understand Koscienly's
Skimpledawg: If you say the Barnsley goalkeeper was utterly useless, I will agree.
At the bolded, was it really their fault or that Caballero was in fine form? A replica strike of that Lincoln first goal strike was faced by Caballero also and he parried it away.
Baba that was the only serious goal threatening shot he saved out of the 11 shots on target. Only a piss-poor keeper like Kepa would've allowed the other attempts in.
More clinical forwards would've buried some of the chances na....Caballero no be Neuer o. Àbí no be all the shots be dis
Skimpledawg: 1. Barnsley; 14 shots, 9 on target. 31% possession against a Chelsea strong side fielding Azpi, Silva, Tomori, Emerson, Chilwel, Havertz, Abraham, Mount, Barkley, Odoi and Kova. Thats almost our 1st 11. Caballero being in fine form saved all shots he faced.
2. Lincoln; 13 shots, 7 on target. 28% possession against Adrian, Williams, R.Williams, Van Dijk, Tsimikas, Grujic, Jones, Elliott, Shaqiri, Minamino and Origi. Only Van Dijk and Origi can lay claim to a starting berth there.
And these points up there wasn't the reason I mocked them earlier on. It was how their forwards lacked basic knowledge of how to actually round the Liverpool goalkeeper to score and it happened many times before their first goal.
1. I knew you were going to talk about possession but I don't think anybody expects a lowly team to get possession more than a team coached by Jurgen Klopp. Irrespective who Klopp fields,it is practically impossible for a team like Lincoln to dominate possession against loserpool.
2. You talk about Caballero saving all 11 shots on target he faced yet you say Lincoln's forwards lack basic football knowledge. Don't u think Barnsley's forwards are useless to have played 11 shots on target and not to have turned one into the net?
In fact the whole Barnsley team was useless. They had a useless keeper who wouldn't know when to come off his line to clear the ball, defenders who get chanced in their own box and midfielders who couldn't string passes together.
macjireh: Lincoln were played with Liverpool 2nd 11 and were still wiped 2-7,,Chelsea played with first 11 and won by 6-0,,so Chelsea used a stronger team while Liverpool used their weaker team to demolish a very weak side
Chelsea also didn't field their first 11. At least I know Caballero, Odoi, Tomori, Emerson, Barkley etc are not the regular Lampard's first choice in their respective positions.
That is beside the point. The point is I watched the two matches and I could understand seeing Lincoln try against loserpool and getting overwhelmed...but Barnsley didn't even bother to try against Chelsea; before they string one or two passes together they are already defending ( something which they are actually poor at)
Lincoln played the current EPL champion and managed to put 2 past them....Barnsley on the other hand conceded 6 unreplied goals against Chelsea while playing some serious patternless football.
Watching Barnsley doing everything to get beaten was appalling to neutral fans' eyes