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izzou:
[color=royalblue]Okay...Let's assume those ones up north are economically disadvantaged.

Why can't Southern states leverage on their closeness to Lagos and develop gradually?

My state is 8 hours to Lagos by road (I am factoring countless checkpoints and bad roads). That means that with a proper structure for transportation, either by sea or rail, it can be 4 hours.

If this is available, there are manufacturers that will ditch the idea of buying land at 1 billion in Lagos, and rather pay few millions to manufacture there

Most Southern governors are just lazy. Money kuku dey to spend, so no need to think.[/color]

I agree we have a spending problem.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I remember when Chimaraoke Nnamani wooed NBPlc to Enugu state during his tenure. He gave them years of tax breaks and I think free land, in exchange for employing 70% of people in his state.

I mean, there are other ways to make it work, and that's why I said a lot of them are not visionary.

Lagos built an IPP that supplies power to all their hospitals and courtrooms. Are you saying Oil rich states cannot do so for free trade Zones in their states?

How many states have even thought of having FTZs sef?

Bros, the problem is a constant. We know. But as a leader, what are you doing about it? Na the Koko be that.[/color]

The oil states are actually doing FTZs but the non oil state are not really doing same.

States like Jigawa, Gombe, Bauchi, Kebbi, Nasarawa, Ekiti, etc. Which free trade zone dem wan do ? People who want to invest in such states must come with huge volume of capital to even bring the manufacturing companies to life. I believe giving such investors tax break may not really cut it for them , hence why they aren't seeing investors to woo.

Another thing is most of the state government officials spend money like they are states with oil and have investors fund lying around somewhere. The truth is some states are economically disadvantaged and for them to turn a corner they need to first learn to save government funds, invest them and then investors from outside will pick up interest in the state. That is why frivolous government spending will always be our bane as a country whether in states with oil, economically viable state or non-economically viable states.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Well, in my opinion

We can keep flogging the past issues, and we are absolutely right. But it doesn't change the fact that almost all our governors are not visionary leaders.

What exactly are they doing to improve manufacturing in their states? What exactly are they doing to woo companies from Lagos to their states?

I haven't been to many states, but I can tell you that of all the ones I have been too, Lagos offers a better security than the rest.

For most states, only the capital is the most secured and easiest place to do business. After the capital, you're on your own. [/color]

I am not excusing those state governors o, because some of these governors are cows. But I just need to point out few things in relation to this Ur post :

1. There's absolutely nothing u can do to encourage manufacting in a country where there's no stable power supply. The few companies producing in Lagos, PH, Kano ( Yes there are still companies producing in kano), etc do so at a great cost to them. They literally provide their own source of power. The truth is not many can actually do that, hence why there are few manufacturing companies and some are still leaving due to unfavorable govemenment policies in recent times.

2. States where there are no jobs, it will be hard to get security right. The more unemployed people u have, the more people will embrace crime. Some of the people not engaging in crime even in this Lagos are shunning crime because there's opportune city for them to sell either their skill or time for money.

That being said, only true federalism can actually make Nigeria a level playing ground where u can start comparing states with each other. As of today, some states are more economically disadvantaged than the others due to no fault of theirs.

raumdeuter:
There were genuine cries by people with concerns about environmental degradation like Ken Saro wiwa but the militancy was driven by thugs who didn't care about any spillage or environment, Do you genuinely think Asari, Tompolo, John Togo, Soboma etc cares if people were swimming in oil waste and inhaling kpofire everyday? These people are just thugs empowered by politicians and got out of control.

Since Tompolo Asari etc have been running the creeks have they for one day mentioned anything about environment? Its basically give us money, give us contract or we stop the flow of oil.

When you empower and arm thugs, na only the beginning you know you don't know how it will end. The Delta thing after dem finish Warri Ijaw Itsekiri -Urhobo war, Ammunitions don surplus. So how do you tell people you have guns and rocket launchers they were supposed to use on your enemies to go home and become regular citizens and start looking for STEM and non STEM jobs?

Same thing everywhere war or mini crisis don happen. Looks Sudan and South Sudan after dem fight war finish, dem separate them, both sides don start another round of internal wars because people armed wont go back to living a regular life if the flow of money stops

That's the issue; once an agitation goes from peaceful protests (which government usually ignore) to armed/violent protests, all bets will be off. It is usually difficult to tell people with gun to embrace peace.

raumdeuter:
One guy dey tell me the story of his family, His da and mom were Graduates working in the US in the 70s then the state creation in 1976 happened. Their state govt searched abroad for all graduates from their states and offered them instant employment in Nigeria and very good offers

The dad relocated and joined a manufacturing company, the mom relocated joined the state civil service, So did many of their state people who were abroad in the 70s. Some even moved to Nigeria with their Oyinbo wives

Now the parents regret ever making that move. All the assets he built in the state are almost worthless. Their Nigerian pension completely worthless. Plus the family has been threatened with kidnap multiple times. They got letters from kidnappers telling them to pay ransom to avoid being kidnapped.
The only thing that helped them was they had their first child in the US who later filed for the parents to become US citizens. And the work they did in the US in the 70s qualified them for some Social security benefits in the US

The mom came back to Naija in the late 70s with the pregnancy of one the child, The child was born in Naija and till now hasn't been fortunate to get a US visa again

Anybody wey don miss this kind opportunity, e dey always hard for them to get opportunity abroad again except something miraculous just happens.

One guy threatened suicide one saturday morning in the area I used to live before. His mum travelled with his dad to the UK in the 80's after marriage and they gave birth to him there. Only God knows what happened to his mum, she just said she wanted to come to naija to come see her mum(The guy's grandma). After she came back to Nigeria she was living with her mum and her son; comepletly forgetting her hubby in the UK.

After several years in Naija she lost contact with her husband and continued her life in naija. The son grew up to hate the life he was living with his mum and grandma who was then a retired headmistress. The guy didn't make any headway years after secondary school education. One time he asked his mum for his UK passport and she claimed "It is with grandma". The guy tried everything to get it but all his efforts proved abortive. I guess they may have misplaced it.

We woke one Saturday morning and heard a lot of noise. People were begging this guy to come down from the tank top he had climbed with rope in his hands which he wanted to tie on his neck to commit seppuku. He claimed he was tired of his life and wanted to end it all. Omo no be small thing. All the elders and adults and even his mates were all begging him to come down o , make he no unalive himself before Olopa go come pack everybody for area to come write statement. Eventually they talked him out of it sha after hours.

The last time I knew about that bros, he was doing Newspaper Vendor in traffic.

raumdeuter:
All these manufacturing companies at their peak will still have to import machineries, sometimes import some raw materials and sometimes export the finished products mostly through Lagos Port or other Ports. Most of the port revenues actually goes to the FG and this constitute a part of the FG non oil revenue

You are right, for whatever reason, the manufacturing industries that sustained the hinterland collapsed. Possibly the military govt policies. Even the manufacturing companies in Lagos were not spared from Ilupeju to Agbara to Oba Akran

So many things that attracted people to the interior states collapsed and the only hope became Lagos and Oil States. The govt policies that for political reasons encouraged militants and kidnapping in the SS now ensured that migrating or building a hub in the SS will have to think twice


Ideally when Nigeria moved from manufacturing to basically oil, the Warri, Onne, PH should be benefitting but no. Na mostly AkwaIbom and Eket benefit because they didn't embrace militancy to the level of other oil cities

The kidnapping and militancy in those South South states didn't happen in isolation, It was actually in response to the long age issue of oil spillage and pollution in those areas . The militancy didn't even start during democratic government, it started in the last days of military government. Those boys only got more powerful when the soldiers went back to barracks and they arm twisted the new set of politicians.

In fact, the new set of politicians have some of those boys working for them so it became an issue . Dem Akwa Ibom-Cross people didn't suffer as much oil spillage and well blowout like those in the Rivers and Delta faced, that's why they had no reason to really embrace militancy.

You see Nigeria ehn, a whole lot of things don happen for this country that had no input of politicians but it is normal for politicians to claim the good things and dissociate themselves from the bad things.

In fulfillment of a promise to give free medical services to a Sokoto businessman accidentally shot during an operation, the Department of State Services (DSS) has invited the victim to its hospital in Abuja.

In mid-March, the DSS Director-General, Mr. Tosin Ajayi, approved the payment of ₦10 million damages awarded by a court to the businessman six years earlier. To compensate for time lost, the DG handed the businessman an additional ₦10 million, bringing the total sum to ₦20 million.

At the time, Mr. Ajayi directed the DSS hospital to officially integrate the businessman into the Services’ medical care system, which would enable him to enjoy free medical services anytime he desired.

A security source said the businessman arrived in the hospital “a few days ago, and has been undergoing free medical tests and treatment from the hospital’s best doctors.”

He said, “True to the DG’s directive, the man has been in the VIP ward which, of course, is fully air-conditioned. They have been running series of checks and giving him round-the-clock medical attention, in order to make him regain full control of his limbs. I even understand the DG asked that he be fed for free.”

In 2016, during a pre-dawn operation to arrest a suspected gunrunner in Jos, Plateau State, DSS operatives mistakenly shot and injured the businessman who incidentally bears the same name as the suspected gunrunner. The gunrunner was eventually arrested.

Two years after the shooting, in 2018, the businessman, through his lawyer, Idris Akibu, approached a Federal High Court in Bauchi.

Delivering judgement on the matter with suit number FHC/J/CS/18/2018, the court, presided over by Justice Muhammed Shittu Abubakar, ordered the DSS to pay ₦10 million in damages to the injured businessman.

https://www.nairaland.com/8432850/dss-gifts-bizman-20m-free

Kudos to the current DSS DG for implementing the court judgement against DSS on this matter , but I have an issue with the way our pressmen/journalist write these days.

A man was shot by officers of the state security services , he was abandoned for 2 years before he took the matter to court and won after which damages was awarded to him. The agency didn't pay him until 6 years after and then Guardian is writing this particular news piece as if the man just won a gift which he is privileged to get.

Omo! Only God knows the kind of mental and emotional stress the man and his family must have gone through up till this moment. I understand the man gets extra N10m aside from the N10m ordered by the court , but the way Guardian toned this news and the headline makes it look like he is a lucky man to get the money.

The fact that some states that used to be economically viable stopped being viable can be linked to the death of manufacturing in the country as a whole. From the 80's to the late 90's a lot of manufacturing companies scattered all over the country suffered slow and painful death .

Importation became the order of the day. Some companies that have plants in states like Plateau, Jos, Kano, Kaduna, etc. folded up and some of the products they manufactured, traders started sorting for close substitutes through importation. Some of the taxes these companies would've paid to the respective host state government dried up and of course importing those items through the Apapa and Tin Can Island port in Lagos means more revenue for Lagos.

It can be argued that the death of the manufacturing sector favored Lagos as a state directly and indirectly. Directly in the sense that most imported items get to pass through Lagos and revenue accrued to the state as a result of that.(E no get the kind money wey u no go pay before ur consignment leave Lagos; from council tax to state government tax, etc).

Lagos benefited indirectly from the death of manufacturing sector because most of the bright minds who would've worked in the defunct manufacturing companies in different states end up finding their way down to Lagos where they have to put their bright minds to work to provide a solution to a problem which they can sell to fetch them money.

You don't need to argue, just go to different states and see several abandoned textile companies, motor assembly plants, foam making industries, glass making companies, paper manufacturing industries , etc. There was Leyland Nigeria Ltd Oyo, Osogbo Steel Rolling Mill,Jos Steel Rolling Mill, Sokoto Cement Company, Nigeria-Romania Wood Industries Ltd Ondo, Batagarawa Steel Rolling Mill Kaduna, Bendel Cement, etc. These were companies that were all working back in the days and contributing positively to the economy of the respective states where they were situated. It was their death that forced most expatriates living in those states back to their countries and Nigerians working there to find their way down to Lagos to come and hustle in the surviving companies feeding off the oil focused economy that emerged.

Don't take my word for it, ask people who know. Ask elderly people who witnessed the country move from production based economy to oil dependent economy that orders most of the basic needs of its people.

Search for Opportunities has always pushed people towards Lagos. It didn't start 1999 and it won't end 2031.

For example, Ambode's father traveled on a canoe from Ilaje Ese Odo in present day Ondo State to Epe where he worked as a teacher in the old western region (60's).

Na that same pursuit of opportunities dey make person wey finish NYSC in Kogi State in 2023 to find his way to Lagos and get job in 2024.

The trend is not the brain child of a single person and it will not stop anytime soon. It is what it is.

Of course, over the years the government of Lagos state should be credited for ensuring there is security of lives and properties despite the continuous of influx of human population into the state seeking opportunities

izzou:
[color=Royalblue]Battle of the STEMS.

Mass Comm grajets having a laugh [/color]

What a time to be alive!

Inter-STEM violence sweet Sha

Theflint1:
Was Lagos an orderly city during Tinubu's tenure?

The article even corroborates what Elder said in his post. Elder claimed there was already infrastructures and national presence in Lagos before Tinubu's tenure .

The article says Lagos was orderly until 1990s when the town planners left for Abuja. The article further pointed out that the 1970s oil boom under the military government affected Lagos positively in the sense that major infrastructures like Eko bridge and Third mainland bridge was built while the already existing carter bridge was re-built, among others. The article only blamed the military governments between 1970s to the late 1990s for lack of planning.

The same article still blamed the current democratic government for making Lagos to remain deplorable, rowdy, unsanitary, and a city of the urban poor.

NB: No be talk all these things, na inside that same article dem write am.

Anyways ,make I sit down read the incoming revisionism that may last the whole day.

Fadedvoiced:
If Tinubu can push the dollar to 2k or 2,500, I swear, he deserves a lifetime seat.
Whether it goes up or down, prices of goods and services still rise like it’s a national sport.
People say, “If the dollar drops, prices will drop.” Lie of the century. Prices stay glued or even go higher.
So abeg, make it 2k or 2500, and some of us will serve Tinubu forever.

Who will u now leave the job of sucking Atiku's balls for ?

TemporaryHansel:
Let’s set the record straight: Tinubu did NOT develop Lagos, and we won’t sit back while people try to rewrite history with vibes and propaganda.
Lagos was Nigeria’s capital for 60 years. That alone gave it a massive head start in infrastructure, funding, and national presence.
Abuja’s only been FCT for about 40 years and already, no state comes close - now imagine Lagos with two extra decades of federal focus.
Truth is, Lagos was always going to be ahead, with or without Tinubu.
They should stop dressing federal legacy as personal achievement. He inherited momentum, not built it from scratch.

Patiently waiting for BATISTs to come and give u long lecture on this topic.

E be like say na una Atikulated and BATISTs go entertain us today

Segedinho:
The Baskard government don increase CNG from #230 to #380 after people don run convert their cars inspite of the daily queue dem Dey face


Tufiakwa for this country

And so it begins.

airmark:
Obviously, you have learnt from experience under Tpain .

More Tears by Moonlight 😂

airmark:
Cry? When i just exposed you as a liar like your leader and enjoying cappuccino while reading how Sowore is mocking your 'launderer-in-chief'.

Cry harder bro, it helps reduce excess salt(sodium) from the body

airmark:
Obidients are Gbajues and liars, i know. You guys deserve Tinubu, he's got your antidotes.

U no go cry keh?

Theflint1:
A lot of them are either Buharists or Agbadoists, they now pretend to be ""neutral" cause how much havoc their principals have wrecked.

😂

U no See faux righteous anger as baba is revealed as a fundamental Buharist

U go dey explain....explain....explain.... explain tire..... 😏

airmark:
Me, defend his administration?

I blasted him for being mediocre after he left office and multiple times I faulted how he failed on security and economy.

Are u sure u didn't off cloth to defend him, only to find Ur voice when he left the seat? 🤭

airmark:
My brother, what we have had since time immemorial have been selfish people at the helms of affair of governance in this country. I was one of those who thought buhari should nt be there since the era of obj, thinking cos of his Islamic/northern background and dictatorial tendencies. I tried to study his person and realized his actions and inactions have shown he has the interest of majority of Nigerians, who are below middle-class at heart. I listened to his interviews and realized though he has many challenges, he wants to lay great foundation in which everything will be well for majority of us. He has passion for a greater Nigeria at heart, that is undisputable. The past administrations got us into where we are right now. He needs to clean up the mess that might mitigate against his developmental programmes. He gave reasons for not appointing ministers yet, which I believe to every Nigerian patriot made a lot of sense. Permanent secretaries would be able to expose the rot in the system directly to him with no fear and this will make Buhari to bring a new system which can reduce corrupt practices to the bearest minimum and in essence people will directly feel the impact of his programmes. Now things are hard but I believe with time things will fall into places. Now nobody wants to go to jail, the era of impunity is gone, an average Nigerian can report any corrupt person to the appropriate agencies and nothing will be swept under the carpet.

izzou:


[color=royalblue]This guy is high[/color]

Person wey Don shack burukutu 😂

TemporaryHansel:
We no dey argue like this for this thread oh. I no know say you dey sabi cook too.

😀

Everywhere good

liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo how much e go see sef😂

He may have been promised appointment ; who knows?🤷‍♂️

Shebi u see all those young APC guys on Twitter fueling different inciting agenda all in the name of Special advisers.

liveLongNprospa:
It's why their own annoys me because if we want to all talk about people that have benefitted from government then some of us go carry pdp and apc for head like Oasisx.

But see wetin selfishness wan do person wey nor allow am dey think forward.
Obi wey person dey push, no personal benefits (infact e go commot food for men mouth) but God forbid say person think beyond e belle.

Mtcheeew

U dey mind am? Maybe he thinks we all need to rely on political patronage to feed

Fadedvoiced:
@blueraydick
If I sue you to court, can you prove I am elder0001?

Goodluck to you with that lawsuit 😎

Theflint1:
Atiku dollars don favor Elder over the years sha

Na wetin him supposed talk be that instead of posturing to unsuspecting newbies as if he has genuine intentions.

izzou:


[color=royalblue]"As long as corruption favor me, no wahala"

But na person wey vote Obi no like Nigeria [/color]

All this wailing u are seeing Na crocodile tears, just like that man wey knock police officer off the bridge in the video 😂😂😂

If anybody wants to gaslight people into voting Atiku, it should not be someone who pronounced with his own mouth he will be voting him for selfish reasons.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Another angul.. AA fit even endorse BAT in 2027. After all na only four years he remain for BAT.

Then he will contest to be president when he is 85 years old. He will b Nigeria's Paul Biya

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It is how everybody is putting pressure on other candidates for the coalition, and exonerating Atiku that's funny

Even Tinubu dey run kitikata, dey find endorsement

Atiku be like Pikin wey get ball, and e must play first set

Instead of him to be unifying the North, e dey Dubai dey wait for coalition announcement [/color]

Na coping mechanism na. Blame every other person apart from the Dubai-based Alhaji.
Somebody that has been failing for over 30 years, dem say na Obi and his supporters make him lose.

He Don contest against northerner he lose, je contest against southerner he lose.

Make dem no questuon his political value, make dem dey look for who to blame when he loses in 2027 again.