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GloriousGbola:
Its the korope for me. Afrodoc na wicked pesin

The way I burst out laughing reading it ehn.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
They already ordered for aircraft from Russia in 2023. So while they're waiting for them to be delivered, they have to use the ones they have.

You are one funny guy aswear.

Oya let's do the maths; November 2023 was just 6 months ago. 50 years minus 6 months = 49 years and 6 months.

So it was after 49 years and 6 months the mighty Iran could pull off the replacement of their korope Helicopter . And this is the country u sing their praise to high heavens ?

obainojazz:
Building rockets up and down…. Common sense is not common sometimes

Dem Dey shout Death to Israel and the west up and down while their president flies around in a coffin

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Una funny oooh. The ignorance here is shocking tbh. North Korea has nuclear weapon yet none of their military aircraft is indigenous. Either they come from Soviet Union, China etc..

So why can’t Iran buy chopper from Soviet Union or China ,etc ?

Abi those ones too impose sanction on Iran like the west ?

Nobody is asking why Iran don’t manufacture copters, all we are asking is why is Iran’s most powerful men being transported in 50 year old korope copter despite how “powerful “ Iran is among comity nations.

Ellexy:
So the West couldn't allow Iran simple heli parts but somehow allowed them develop nuclear weapons.

E shock u too

afrodoc2:
The situation is like a KDB across goal line pass. It is either Haaland taps it in at the far post or the defender scores an own goal. No explanation wey Iran wan give wey go get evidence. The options are:

1) Crash due to natural climatic conditions: Maybe Allah is punishing the Iranian leadership for supporting evil all over the globe.

2) Crash due to obsolete aircraft: Shey na the Iran wey wan go face Israel dey pack its leadership inside korope like this?

3) Neither bad weather no obsolete aircraft: It must be Israel dealing with Iran in a very sleek manner. Maybe they bribed an aircraft engineer to remove one screw from the helicoper.

Everywhere the Iranians turn to, there's a very big "L" staring them in the face on this one.

Theflint1:
You just can't fake the funk, the US and its allies no be anybody mate.

That’s why it is funny that Okpa actually believes Israel and its allies in the West went to sleep and allowed Iran acquire nuclear weapon which they have hidden from the public view .

afrodoc2:


Not 30yrs o. Not 40 yrs o. A half century. A whole Iran wey fit finish Israel in 1 second? I am taken aback, shaken up and bowled over.

He shouldn’t have even offered that kinda explanation on Iran’s behalf at all.

Na hat trick own goal.

GloriousGbola:
1979 was over 45 years ago

russia and china have produced several helis since then
so i dont follow your argument

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So Iran cannot approach an ally like China or Russia to buy another helicopter?

Na 1968 model dem take dey fly Number 1 up and down?

If this is true, then the country is not who they always paint themselves to be.[/color]

Una just choke okpa for neck 😂

Okpa that has been singing to our ears how Iran has sophisticated weapons ( weapons superior to Israel’s) , how Iran acquired nuclear weapon but hiding it; na that same Iran Okpa is telling us kept their number 2 and 3 man on a 50 year old helicopter because the West no gree them buy new Helicopter or its parts .

😂😂😂

Sportsweb:
I Can See You Are Still In Tears.

Don't worry you will get used to it.

. scratch it, Arsenal fans are already used to tears and disappointment. Not a big thing for you.

Just watch some highlights of this season and look at the scorelines of matches you will be alright.

More tears to ur cheek bro. I perfectly understand the misery u are going through right now. If my team was hammered 5-0 like we did Cole Palmer Fc this season, I would be mad too.

U will resume wailing about Jackson and Babashile in few days time.

nihilistjnr:
Lool na him o

In one fell swoop, Iran's number 2 man and number 3 man taken out.

And all this after bombing Iranian facilities on the birthday of the number 1 man just last month.

There's actual mafia organisations wey no do reach this one.

Anybody who read his empty threat last month would think he's got full power over life and death. smh

Sportsweb:
Proud FC


I remember saying Mikel Arteta should be competing for other trophies. EPL is not the only Trophy.

Imagine if Arsenal had landed one of Carabao or FA Cup and then bottles EPL, the pain won't be that much.

The fans and players would be rewarded wit a trophy to celebrate.

Next season watch Arsenal exit all tournaments with excuse they are focusing on the league.

The way u took this wailing serious, one would think the team u supported won a quadruple this season .

When this euphoric feeling clear commot ur eyes, u will go back to lamenting about Jackson and Ikebe super Sterling

Arsenal in 2024

Played 18
Won 16
Draw 1
Lost 1



Away from the senseless trolling , this team did good ! I am proud of each and everyone of the boys 👏

nihilistjnr:
Confirmed dead today.

Lol

Na why dem no dey fück with joos be this. These niggas are ready to do you dirty on any level. They can do you legally with cancel culture and bankruptcy. They can do you with assassinations and espionage. They can do you with open conventional warfare.

If shoe get size, the joos are shoemakers.

Was this guy not the same person that promised nothing will remain of Israel just last month ?

raumdeuter:
Na for Oba Akran road I do my IT in 2001, I saw the number of companies in that axis and the number of workers they employ. I hear say most of those companies have folded some sold to churches, all the manufacturing gone and replaced with imports all the employment gone and replaced with yahoo yahoo, Okada riders and crime

Yes o, churches just keep springing up in those areas occupying the same buildings factories and companies used to occupy .

The same thing with that Ilupeju axis too.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Firstly, these companies work through Bidding. They have a set amount for a particular item. So, if you like, put all your financial problems on the quote, na that amount wey dem set dem go pay

Secondly, The reason they will patronize Okey and Sons is because he can actually have it and supply it in 3 days. Ordering from abroad may take weeks to come. So, they rather settle for who has it and can deliver now (not forgetting they already have a set budget for it)

Thirdly, I never see refinery parts before. I am just responding to your quote on if they patronize local sellers, and yes, Chevron, Shell, NLNG, all have their own Okeyson and Bros as vendors.

I no sabi refinery parts. [/color]

If u check the initial post I responded to; it was about the claim that Dangote refinery employees supplied substandard parts that’s why the refinery couldn’t start on the scheduled date.

I disagreed with the post because for starters I know when u want to set-up multi billion dollar facility in the oil and gas industry , u get ur funding from consortium of lenders .( mostly international and few local banks )

These lenders would draw up a common term agreement that will specify how u will go about the construction , it will name the international enginerring consultants of repute to handle the job, how u are to procure equipments and parts, the estimated start-up date, the insurances u are to take on the project from inception till start-up date, etc. Like everything will be written in black and white . The project won’t even commence if this is not signed by all parties .

The lenders will have a trustee appointed who will have ensure the terms agreed are strictly adhered to throughout the life span of the project . It’s not like u will say u want to do something out of line.

The borrower knows what is at stake and will put in place checks to ensure their employees don’t 4ck things up so they don’t lose funding cos the lender can pull out when such happens .

When the project is completed and after some years u pay down on ur facility , u can decide to run the business however u deem fit. U can decide to start buying substandard parts if to cut cost in the short run. But as long as u are still answerable to the lenders , u won’t let ur employees 4ck things up for u

izzou:
[color=royalblue]They do, sir!

As long as you can meet the product and the specification they ask you, yes, you can.

[/color]

To buy critical equipment parts for refinery ? Things that are not even made in Nigeria ?

There are even some items that that when they order for them it will take over a year to get shipped cos the manufacturer will have to start making them.

When I say they don’t call okey Japan and Ndubest, I mean they don’t call them to order through them cos it will cost the company more money doing so cos those ones will also import it and they will add profit margin .

I was talking about critical equipment and parts . This is not made-up stuff , it is something I have info on.

GloriousGbola:
so, in line with what you said -

do oil companies import generators or buy locally?
do they import the vehicles their personnel use or buy from nigerian vendors?
i am sure you also know about local content policy and its stipulations

there is no oil platform in nigeria running on 101% imported parts - infact that is a recipe for a different problem since the nigerian environment is different .

example: an indian changeover is more reliable in nigeria than a UK changeover. because an indian changeover is built and designed in an environment like nigeria, where you can changeover four times a day, vs uk where you may NEVER changeover in the lifetime of your facility.

it is even possible that some of the 'international standard parts' brought in came with their own problems. that is when you will find how many things are damaged by Nigerian voltage

We are talking of equipment they use for their factory , not generators they can buy from mantrac or vehicles they can buy from Elizade or Globe Motors .

Funny enough Dangote himself has Dangote Sinotruk WA that even sell trucks to other companies outside the Dangote group.

The Dangote group is not a company founded 2 years ago still struggling to find a reputable local vendor for stuff like changeover , cables etc.

I maintain claiming Dangote failed to meet the start-up date was due to staff supplying substandard equipment is far-fetched and unbelievable . This is not an academic exercise , the story just sounds unbelievable to me.

Yes I am aware of the local content law and local content will not force u to buy critical equipment from Nigeria when we don’t even produce them here .

GloriousGbola:
there are original circuit breakers and fake ones. and you cannot tell by looking. if the procurment guys gave PO to dodgy contrcator for electrical panels and that one provided fake breakers, you will be having faukt and not knowing what is happening - more so if your technical team are oyibos who have not worked in an environment with fake spare parts

on a project years ago, we ran a cable to our office server room power installation. i specified a cable sized 95mm. after we commissioned the cable was warm [sign of overheating] i could not understand why. it was a very very frightening time. in the end my boss intervened and another vendor was commissioned to put in 120mm cable. i was looking like i did not know what i was doing, but then the people who replaced the cable called me aside and showed me - a 70mm cable had been supplied and the size information scraped off and 95mm stamped on it

there are people with machines in alaba that lay insulation on cable. they will join cable and use the machine to hide it.

all you need is one corrupt guy on your team who is not thinking that far ahead.

a vendor i worked with on a project was my boss paddy. he tried to cut corners and i fought him and fought him. he eventually did the right thing. a year later , a site he had worked on three or four years befoe had a major failure. his pipe [which has a lifetime guarntee] had failed and petrol was pouring everywhere. the gutters were full of petrol. in fadeyi. this was ambos admin ad fire service mobilized and filled the gutters with foam. it could have become a major fire incident.

that day my boss threw up his hands and said - i am tired of my friend! what was unspoken was that the same thing would have happened in the more recent site if i had not fought the guy.



no matter how much experience you have, enter a new business/enterprise there is a learning period or curve during which people can chop you if they are like that . you dont have any vendors or suppliers you have done business with. you want to be careful. if i tell you cost of this service [A] is 2A or A+x or A² how do you know? it is during the project when you now meet with subcontractors or other professionals you can build your own network and supply chains

U are missing the point .

Big conglomerates like Dangote have international engineering companies they patronize for equipment and parts . They don’t call Okey Japan or Ndubest Technical services to get their parts for them. They have a procurement department whose job is to negotiate terms and see through the procurement process with these international engineering firms . They have a trade finance team who will see through the opening of form M’s with CBN and facilitate the payment for these items. There’s control to these things . Some of these equipment even require the manufacturers to send experts down to Nigeria for installation. I know these things .

Dangote has set up Dangote Cement factory , Dangote Sugar, Dangote Flour , etc in the past . He even set commissioned the largest Feetlizer plant in Nigeria as recent as 2022 which I believe was commissioned at the set date .

I am not buying the story that Dangote refinery did not meet the set date for commencement of operation because of staff suppying substandard equipment . I may agree with other reasons

izzou:
[color=royalblue]If i was a state governor, i would pick one food item....Maybe Rice.

Open a Rice board or Commission

Put an order that the commission will buy rice from farmers at XXXXXX price. As long as you have it, we are buying.

Even person wey no wan farm, go use him empty land plant rice. Afterall, he cannot lose.[/color]

If security is not guaranteed the farmers may just overlook ur offer and not key into it. The rice board will just end up being just another govt agency set up where staff collect money with no real job to do.

When u have Fulanis running riot all over the country with their cows causing destruction to people’s farms, u have bandits demanding tax from farmers and kidnappers raiding big farms to kidnap owners for ransom. You may not achieve much with this initiative considering the fact that security apparatus is mostly in the hands of the federal govt at the central .


I know state governors get security votes and one may suggest they form paramilitary like LNSC, Amotekun , etc but there’s little those ones can do facing armed criminals with automatic assault weapons

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I just took the message and kept the messenger one side.

With his wealth, how many manufacturing industries him get?

I still believe the state governments can start the change, but then, those ones wan chop fast because 8 years dey quick finish[/color]

State governors want to rule for 8 years stealing as much as they can and then relocate to senate house where they can 4ck the country even more .

I think it is only rich states like Lagos , Delta and Rivers state whose former governors have fed so fat that don’t really nurse idea of going to senate after their terms as governor . Those ones think of becoming the president 😂

GloriousGbola:
not everything will be bought from abroad

cable will be bought in nigeria
Please do not mention SON. SON is a rubber stamp for all sorts of rubbish
the oil and gas industry is not a monolith, especially now that we have local players.

there are 1000 ways corrupt people will slow process
we are due a payment on a project. na one lazy very lazy guy wey suppose sign. i told my partner this guy will demand something my guy called me back to say yes, the guy demanded something. the payment has been hanging for a week. work has stalled. now take that and multiply it.

also, if you do not have proper inventory management and security in place, your people on ground can steal materials, or swap them out with lower grade. my partner was in a police station being grilled by police and soldiers because they caught some riff raff under him stealing materials on another project. a situation where you must look at everyone around you as a potential thief and rogue. how will work move if i am double or triple checking everyone?

I am a Nigerian and I know how corrupt Nigerians can get especially when they are in a position to take decisions that revolve around costs of a business they don’t own .

However , saying Dangote refinery start date was delayed because staff were stealing and supplying substandard equipment is something that is almost unbelievable .

This is not he first business Dangote is setting up. Man has set up several businesses in the manufacturing sector plenty of times . He has wealth of experience on handling these challenges than almost any Nigerian businessman . He didn’t just become African richest man with a system that allows employees steal and sabotage his business na. Haba!

There may be several reasons why his refinery didn’t start up at the agreed date , but claiming it is due to employees supplying substandard products and parts is far fetched abeg.

Amoto94:
An acquaintance who is working with Dangote Refinery said that some of the employees were sabotaging the man's efforts by stealing equipments, supplying substandard products, and financial misappropriation were rampant these were the reasons for the delays and setbacks

I doubt ur acquaintance is right on this .

In the oil and gas industry , most if not all of the equipment are imported from abroad . How will employees import substandard products/ equipment when they have the mandate to buy from international suppliers of repute ?

They will get proforma invoice from the manufactures , open form M, LC’s , have their banks and the suppliers banks sort out payment terms and all. All of these processes have control. Some of those equipment even pass through SON ( standard organization of Nigeria ) .

If they were buying from local market, I would agree with this line of thought. Those international suppliers they purchase from abroad have a reputation to uphold .

The fact that Dangote actually uses Indians as top management staff makes this line of thought kinda unbelievable. Those Indians will fire anybody that appears incompetent or becomes a liability in the team without bating an eyelid

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It will always be cheaper and easier to import than produce because of the difficulty in doing business.

From very funny government policies, to the risks of security and transport, to the ever increasing cost of raw materials, to dubious staff and vendors...Omoh..

Anybody thinking the country will get better is still on Colos. We are simply enjoying now. It just gets worse as we move on.

I went to somewhere in the interior of Ogun state, and you will not believe that Cassava is a scarce commodity there, despite hundreds of acres lying fallow.

The reason? Nobody wants to farm. All the young boys and girls don run go town go find money.

So the few people wey plant, they slam ridiculous prices on it

Nigeria![/color]

Looking back now and having a deeper understanding of the multifaceted challenge manufacturers face in this country, I think the promise of presidential candidates in the last election ( especially Peter Obi ) to make the country move from being import dependent is actually political talks and lamba . It’s not something any president will be able to do in 8 years .

Successive governments (particularly the military ) killed the manufacturing industry and made it quite difficult to do business at a reasonable margin. I remember the late 90’s and early 2000’s when the Ilupeju industrial estate was still buzzing . When we go to see our relatives around that Onipanu side , I always see all those Empee , textile companies and all when we pass through ilupeju from Oshodi.

I think the successive military government laid the foundation to 4ck the manufacturing sector and the civilian government that came after them were too busy basking in the euphoria of self government to bother about revitalizing the sector with forward thinking policies. They just focused on the easy way out (importing ) , while paying lip service to revitalizing the sector

Itsrm:
Make I shock you. Scientific calculator is now 8000 . I don't think it was more than 800 when I last bought it. What kind percentage increase is this? These were things we could easily afford from our meagre pocket money back in the days and still have enough to last us the month.

Saw a thread on twitter where most ladies were lamenting they can no longer afford to make their hair.

It has never been this bad.

Ah! Scientific calculator 8k keh ? As in normal Casio ? Not the one Texas instrument calculator those writing CFA use ?

Around 2019 or thereabouts when I was to write an exam I asked someone to help me get that same Casio calculator which he did and collected 2,500 from me. I thought he actually added to the cost but I felt he earned it sha cos I needed it badly that day .

Na wa o. U sure say education never expensive pass ignorance like this ?

Itsrm:
Had to quote this separately. I think say na only me

Dem go just scan a few things you go hear N37,000.

I have lost count the number of times I've heard, "remove this one" at the counter.

It’s just so annoying .

Honestly I think supermarkets and malls have yahoo boys to thank for still being in business o. I mean how many legit hustlers fit afford to dey spend those kind money on toiletries and groceries alone when there are other needs begging for attention ? Ordinarily magic shaving cream don Dey cost 5k, kiwi polish over 1k, body cream over 5k .Harpic toilet cleaner nko? Bath soap nko ? Air freshener nko?

Imagine being on Band A , having a car to fuel , having black tax to pay to ur family members , and still being a dutiful father and husband in this Tinubu regime . And they said it is baby step of pains 🤦‍♂️

No wonder bobrisky left .

Itsrm:
I don't think the guy in that screenshot live in Nigeria. 4/10 is being too generous. What is the 4/10 for?

Security is in shambles, economy in tatters, poverty is at all time high, agriculture is comatose and food inflation has skyrocketed.

Only reason I gave him 1/10 is for the few ministers who are trying their best.

Meanwhile on this fuel issue, I'm starting to think it's a ploy to prepare us for Dangote. Dangote will likely sell around 900-1000 which is the price we are currently buying.

I was actually being generous so some people won’t wake and start calling me hater ni.

Tinubu has practically 4cked up every privilege we enjoy for being Nigerians who stayed put in this country . When I see people who don’t live in Nigeria having takes on the state of the country , I don’t get triggered anymore .

As for Dangote , he has the country held by the jugular , I give him credit for using every rule inside and outside of the book to make himself indispensable to both the government and even the common masses . Even when he’s taking decisions that goes against the masses , they will find reasons to sing his praise . Emefiele carry CBN dollar give him at subsidized rate but senior man about to sell fuel to us at international market rate. No wam!

raumdeuter:
In America food is cheap, even in Nigeria if a single girl is spending 3m on food and dining out a month. what is the average salary of a girl of her level? If food alone is taking 30% of your income, there is still accommodation which you have to pay. If you are single, that type of girl is someone to dey wary of cos na the type wey go push a regular guy to early death with financial pressure

Any obsession wey anyone get wey dey consume a healthy part of your income and its not even a necessity to survive na something to take to God in prayer

Cos na those kain thing no dey make person get savings (Akojo).

From experience those kind of girls will put pressure on their partner to meet up with certain standards they have set for themselves.

Eating with minimum $2k plus for 1 person just seem on the high side sha. cos we can extrapolate to say some months she fit spend $3-5K on eating out. Especially early in life. If na someone wey don dey top cadre for life and career you might cut them some slack, If na that fine girl MD for Zenith Bank now I fit understand or DJ Cuppy

My desire for her is to get a partner wey sabi chop life and spend money like her too to avoid monkey dey work baboon dey chop situations. So as she dey blow her salary, the guy sef go dey blow his own. Both will YOLO and face whatever consequences together

The person in question might probably be from a well to do family or getting paid well for whatever she does for a living ( even if na onlyfans set ).

The point is different people have obsessions which they don’t spare anything to spend on. They will go the extra mile to spend on such obsession.

My former MD even though he’s way ahead of us in years , he always makes sure he buys the latest iPhone once it comes out. One of my colleagues back then is from a well-to-do family so he can afford some items beyond his salary. When iPhone 7+ was released , he bought it almost immediately it was available in naija .

You know what happened? My MD saw the phone with him and checked it out and further asked him about the functionality . This man bought same phone that week. Then when iPhone X came out baba bought same . He bought 11 pro max also after the release. It was that my colleague that told me it appears baba is just obsessed with all these smart gadgets and nothing more .

Spy360:
F*cling mediocres

Jodera, Blueraydick, Mostob

Now u need to understand why some of those man utd trolls come her to express their frustration .

Itsrm:
1/10 for me.

Oasisx, do you agree with this assessment?

Anybody living in Nigeria and not an APC member will not rate him more than 4/10 in the last one year considering the living conditions of people generally .

For the life of me, I never thought a loaf of bread will cost more than 1k between last year and this year .

U will visit a mall to buy just toiletries and when they scan on the cashiers desk u are already paying tens of thousands . 🤦‍♂️

Anybody who thinks because it is his first year and it’s too early to judge him is just being delusional . We all know as Nigerians that things can only get worse and not better . Let’s not even talk about cost of fueling a car sef .

mostob:
The jersey make sense sha

McCabe is bae

I’m buying this jersey soon .

Stupid dry cleaner don spoil this season own recently 🤦‍♂️

iamoyindamola:
For the rice part I think that's the reason we extended jourghino's contract
As for saka, I don't want to be greedy for now what I want is a good deputy for him
All thos nelson, maquinhos should fvck off we need a strong contender for saka in that position
Antonio nusa is very raw and can be managed, this guy is already playing with odegaard and haaland in international level
Then we need serious integration of at least 2 youngsters into the team
It's very important
We have lost Reuell Walters too

I agree with u; let Nelson and Maquinos 4ck off and let’s get another good contender for Saka position.

I don’t see Saka playing AM sha