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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 7:02pm On May 23, 2024
Spy360:
You don't want argument but you are bringing 18/19 stats for ESR.

In the season that just finished, Vieira missed more games through injury than ESR. But you are willing to offer him an extension 'in an elite team' whereas your reason for not minding selling ESR is the same injury issue.

By the way neither of us will affect what will happen to them next season, so no point. It's just a personal opinion which I made clear to you. I will take ESR over Vieira without blinking.
Abeg if argument Dey hungry u, go look for who to argue endlessly with for front.

Someone ask which players do we want the club to sell; I listed my own choice . He requested for reasons and why listed ESR and I provided reasons to him which was fine by him. You are the one that started argument about Viera and what not while questioning my personal opinion .

Now u are making it seem as if I was the one arguing with u over ur personal opinion.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:44pm On May 23, 2024
GloriousGbola:
they are all complicit in one way or another

give them work and they will sell slot
give them work and they will delay so your project will extend
community liason officer will collect extra deve without telling his paddy
community chief will insist on supplying materials for csr borehole or the borehole WILL NOT BE SUNK
Abi.

There’s no way those oil companies (particularly the international ones ) will mess things up in the Niger Delta if Nigerian government don’t enable them.

Shebi they operate in other countries and they do things in a more reasonable manner . Our own people and government no like us, we now want strange businessmen to show us excess love .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:22pm On May 23, 2024
obainojazz:
You have a government and community leaders that should be be challenging this oil companies but you want Nigerians living in the west wey never see oil well before to protest…. Okpa na major clown grin

This is a premier starting to fight them as they aa they badly damaged that area and just left it…. It’s even not too far from populated areas
He wont collect bribe like our naija leaders.
Most of Okpas takes are funny and sometimes ridiculous . I asked him why people residing in the west must come back to hold Oil and gas companies for blokus he no gree answer .

I don’t even think he knows what happens in some of those communities .

Someone narrated to me an incident that happened in one of the host communities . The members of the communities who are majority of the casual workers of the company decided to down tools while protesting unfair conditions of service .

They grounded operations and vowed nothing will happen except their conditions were met. They invited their senator representing their constituency at the National Assembly to be in solidarity with them (because he’s from the host community )

When the man came with his security escorts, the top management of the company invited him for a dialogue and the people were in high hopes thinking the man is going to stand on business. Guess what ? nobody knows what was offered this man in the close door meeting with the management but when he came back to meet the protesting workers, he threatened them and chided them for being bad hosts by grounding the business of their employers.

The workers angrily pelted him with pure water and he had to be whisked away by his security guys . That was the end of that protest . Some of the leaders of the protest were punished by management and it took the intervention of the union to have them not sacked sef. That’s the Nigeria we live in where one person will greedily lap at the offer of these oil companies while the rest of the people suffer for it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:35pm On May 23, 2024
TrebleChamp:
He was cɍiticising Gandollar even though he new he could be dethroned, let's see who the Governor/kingmakers will appoint...
He also criticized Jonathan knowing he could get sacked at CBN. I think that's just him, he will talk irrespective of whose ox is gored
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 3:33pm On May 23, 2024
kingBolton:
Arteta is better than lampard but as far as the 2019/2020 season is concerned, lampard was rated highly, especially how he handled the squad and was able to get a top 4 despite the transfer ban.

It is understandable for people to disagree now with how far Arteta has brought Arsenal now tho.
Make una stop this thing na. Not everybody forgets things easily; we were all on this thread at the end of the 2019/2020 season. Even Ibime who is a staunch Lampard fan blamed him for being a shitty manager after that FA cup loss to Arteta

Ibime:
Lampard only has himself to blame today.

Every decision was wrong from the formation to the Christensen sub
This is not even about hindsight or lapse of time making one forget things. U think Lampard was highly rated and this poster made this remark about the summary of the 2019/2020 season?

Taguchi:
Liverpool : epl trophy

Arsenal : FA trophy

Man city : efl trophy

Chelsea : net spend trophy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:17pm On May 23, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
You sabi answer question with question. Give me the list,,.. You begin yab off point
Which list u keep for my hand ? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 3:08pm On May 23, 2024
kingBolton:
The difference between Arteta and Lampard then was the luxury of time Arteta was afforded. Lampard finished top 4 and was sacked in the second season, Arteta finished outside the top 4 for three seasons in a row and still had a job.

The only reason you are debating who was rated better now is because of what Arteta has done in the last two seasons, as far as I can remember, it was mostly ole and lampard debate , Arteta was barely in the conversation then as far as the 2019/2020 season is concerned. You can go back and check both united Chelsea and Arsenal threads conversation of that season.
None of what u've said has disproved what I wrote in the post u quoted. If Arteta had not won the FA cup he would've been sacked too like Arsenal sacked Emery after 18 months.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:06pm On May 23, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I said Nigerians living in the West. Compile their list and share.
Why must Nigerian in the West come to challenge Shell in Nigeria ? Are they super humans or sub-humans?

Of what significance is it that a Nigerian living in the west leaves his hustle and fly down to Nigeria to be shouting "Shell must go"? So let's say Ibime should leave the UK and start carrying placard in a boat on Forcados while dem Tompolo and Co don go collect bribe from same oil companies ?

Do u want them to risk their lives just to prove a point ni ?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:53pm On May 23, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I guess na small pikin dey worry these people too wey take shell to court. Na to stop responding to your mention regarding dis issue.
U can clearly see the girl farming clout going by her screenshot talking about making her DNA-revelaed ancestors proud grin

You are the one who claimed ur fellow Nigerians are not doing anything about it and it is this same u that is now showing me a screenshot of Nigerians actually seeking judgement against the oil companies grin

Okpa stay one place. You want to throw a jab at ur fellow Nigerians by quoting a clout-chasing Jamaican, yet u ended up providing evidence that suggests ur fellow Nigerians have been standing on business in getting justice against the oil companies.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 2:45pm On May 23, 2024
Vischy:
Arteta has improved because he was afforded luxury of time at arsenal that's the difference between him and lampard....
That is not the difference between them. Arteta simply won a trophy in his first year as a coach and that bought him time. If he had not won a cup , he would've been sacked like Lampard too.

Arsenal sacked Emery after 18 months at Arsenal. Guess what? Lampard was also sacked after 18 months at Chelsea obviously for the same reason Arsenal sacked Emery.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:35pm On May 23, 2024
TrebleChamp:
I don't think Sanusi is interested in returning as Emir, i believe he was already tired of that life, reason he kept criticising Gandollar until he was eventually dethroned.
A new Emir will be announced and it can still be Ado Bayero...
Dey play ! grin

Who says he's tired of that life ? Person wey just dey marry wife dey enjoy FG money as a first class paramount ruler when he was on the throne.

Do u think people just let go of such royal privileges when handed back to them on a platter ?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:32pm On May 23, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
You have just successfully defined neocolonialism. They're not coming now to banish or send our traditional rulers into exile. Na their puppets go run the show. These puppets will be answerable to them even when they trample on fundamental human rights of the citizens, rule of law, embezzle public funds, they will never sanction them or the state they represent even though this Western hypocrites will parade themselves as champions of democratic principles.

We have many Nigerians in the West but na Jamaican woman living in the West dey drag dis colonial company to court, dey call out the evils they're committing in Africa. While Nigerians in the West dey measure dick with fellow Nigerians about his English language proficiency test, I scored band 20, Putin is a dictator bla bla.
Na true Theflint talk when he said na small pikin dey worry the girl and this screenshot further confirms it.

What do u think Ken Sarowiwa was doing that got him killed?

Theflint was right when he mentioned that most of the community leaders and even Nigerian government are majorly complicit in whatever evil Shell and other oil exploration corporations are doing in the South South.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/08/nigeria-usa

https://earthrights.org/case/wiwa-v-royal-dutch-shell/

This girl has not done what has not been done by ur fellow Nigerians before
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:21pm On May 23, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
There are hints that it was for mainly that reason.
The previous emir's family seems to be very close to him.
There's been alot of running around in the lead up to this and it wasn't a surprising seeing Dantata at the villa.

But oh well
Lolz. But Going to Tinubu will obviously not change anything, the person he should be going to see is the governor and not Tinubu na.

This whole thing is the current governor and Kwakwanso doing; it has nothing to do with federal government.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:12pm On May 23, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
So Dantata's visit to Tinubu was a waste it seems
Is that what Dantata’s visit was about ? Well me I don’t know the purpose of the man Man’s visit but I know people like him , Dangote and other rich powerful men don’t usually meddle in political and traditional power tussle openly
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 2:09pm On May 23, 2024
Ibime:
Lampard didn't make signings, they were jumbled together for him
Well, that’s club internal politics .

Maybe that excuse can fly for him during his time at Chelsea sha . But looking at his coaching career overall, he hasn’t gone past the peak of being FA cup runner up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 2:04pm On May 23, 2024
Ibime:
Arteta finished 8th 2 seasons in a row
That was never disputed . He won a trophy in less than a year in charge and that bought him extra time .

Lampard on the other hand lost finals and didn’t do much to improve the lot of the team when the transfer ban was lifted after he made signings .

Lampard was a great player no doubt, but there’s nothing to write home about his managerial career thus far especially when u pitch it against Arteta’s
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:57pm On May 23, 2024
Theflint1:
The bulk of the blame goes to the community leaders, and the Nigerian government...Shell's primary responsibility is to its share holders, so if sustainable exploration would cost Shell $1 billion and the stakeholders from Nigeria insist that Shell should instead bribe them with $200 million and do as they like with the environment, what you think Shell would do?
Okpa knows these things , but agenda won’t allow him agree with u
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 1:48pm On May 23, 2024
BlueAngel444:
guy have shame, I ignored your nonsense response so you could see it as nonsense, even when others corrected you. You dey form stubborn fly, but continue. Continue claiming you are right by yourself.
E be like say this one Dey find his/her period .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 1:40pm On May 23, 2024
forgiveness:
The answer is at the beginning of 2019/2020 when Arteta was appointed as Arsenal manager from Manchester city as assistant coach.

As at then Lampard was already famous due to his exploits at the Championship. Who was better at tha t point at the beginning of 2019/2020 season? grin
grin grin grin

Dj Famous ni.

Arteta was not even appointed until December (4 months already into the season). Yet, he finished the season with a trophy .

Exploits in the Championship cheesy cheesy cheesy. You are not serious o
PoliticsRe: Sanusi Reinstated As Emir Of Kano, Bayero Dethroned - Leadership by BlueRayDick: 1:33pm On May 23, 2024
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 1:27pm On May 23, 2024
forgiveness:
Oga, I agree a rookie Arteta won FA cup in his first season in 2019/2020 season.

Now, let us think towards this direction. Prior to the beginning of 2019/2020 season, Lampard already made name for himself in 2018/2019 in the championship while Arteta was just a rookie coach from being assistant coach in another club.

Based on this, at the beginning of 2019/2020 season, who was better between Lampard and Arteta? angry
grin grin grin

At this point u are giving the vibe of a student who decided to answer a question the examiner did not ask inside his answer booklet.

In one breath u agreed Arteta was still an assitant manager until his appointment at Arsenal. Then the same u is asking about who was a better manger over a period Arteta was not yet a manger cheesy

Maybe u should go and read the initial post I quoted so u won't be arguing amiss.
PoliticsRe: Sanusi Reinstated As Emir Of Kano, Bayero Dethroned - Leadership by BlueRayDick: 1:26pm On May 23, 2024
OriOko88:
It's a lie. Awolowo never deposed any Alafin. It was Olowo of owo that was deposed because of his alliance with Akintola. Go read up ur history, boyy!!
grin grin grin

I can only laugh at ur pride in ignorance. A story that has even made front page on nairaland before.

Just use the search button and educate urself
PoliticsRe: Sanusi Reinstated As Emir Of Kano, Bayero Dethroned - Leadership by BlueRayDick: 1:13pm On May 23, 2024
OriOko88:
undecided
So na legislative act dey depose Emir for north.

I doubt if hausas even get culture. Cos it wasn't that far that they were islamized by Dan fodio. Just 1803 or so. What titles did their Kings bear before those jihad periods undecided undecided undecided

Yoruba culture for Life!! Cant imagine an Ooni or Awujale being deposed by a legislative bill.

For almost over three years counting now,Oyo never get Alafin. Atari ajanaku..kii seru omode cool
Lmao grin

Alaafin Oba Adeyemi II was deposed by Awolowo simply because he aligned with the central government agsinst government of western region.

Since the colonial masters came , people in governments have been deposing kings. It happens in Yoruba and Hausa land jare
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:03pm On May 23, 2024
Sanusi Lamido reinstated as Emir of Kano. shocked

Wow! Just wow!

https://www.nairaland.com/8102151/sanusi-reinstated-emir-kano-bayero
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 12:51pm On May 23, 2024
WhoDeyHause:
I don die sorry we don die.
grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 12:39pm On May 23, 2024
forgiveness:
Where was Arteta when Lampard led Derby to championship playoff? I think he was just an assistant coach with no achievement of his own hence it's save to save Lampard was better than him at some point.
A rookie manager wins FA cup in his first season as as a first team coach. A rookie manager led a team to playoffs in the championship and lost.

So in ur world the one that lost Championship playoffs was better than the one that actually won a cup in his first season on the job ?

Omo! People dey this world o. Even Lampard will not regard himself as the better of the two
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 12:20pm On May 23, 2024
Vischy:
Time is an essential factor but unfortunately Chelsea doesn't tolerate average performance that's why lampard was sacked and arteta is still arsenal manager for 5 fucking years without a major trophy.

Facts; Arteta won't last a season as Chelsea manager
U are talking out of point as usual. If u like go marekt, buy paint and color ur comment in rainbow color, it won't change the fact that I made a factual statement countering the careless cappings of the other moniker.

He claimed at some point Lampard was better than Arteta in their coaching careers and that has been proven to be a lie. Simple.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 11:17am On May 23, 2024
forgiveness:
Where did Arteta finish in hia first season in EPL?
He finished 8th in the EPL and won a major trophy in his first season. Now how and when was Lampard better than Arteta as a coach ?

NB: Arsenal is Arteta's first job as a first team manager
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 11:05am On May 23, 2024
forgiveness:
Nevertheless, Kompany took Anderlecht to 3rd position in the Belgium pro league and cup final though he lost it.

That's with a better team. The probability he will do well in Germany is positive.
I don’t have a problem with Kompany , if he will do well in Germany or not remains to be seen. I only pointed it out to u that doing well in the Championship doesn’t mean u will be a good manager in the EPL or any top league .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 11:02am On May 23, 2024
Vischy:
You suddenly forgot Chelsea lost Hazard and we couldn't sign replacement because of transfer ban yet lampard made it to top 4 with academy players.
U are talking out of point . Go and read that post again; somebody claimed at some point Lampard was better than Arteta . My question is WHEN ?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 10:58am On May 23, 2024
forgiveness:
Well, Lampard did well in the championship before he was considered. Remember, it was Lampard that used Mount on loan from Chelsea and made him a regular player in Chelsea due to ban.
Kompany did not only do well in the Championship, but won it. Guess what he did in the EPL? yes u guessed right, he has successfully relegated the same team.

Anybody can be the Pep Guardiola of the Championship, it is what u do managing a team in the EPL that people will use to judge u.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 10:45am On May 23, 2024
BlueAngel444:
lol it's funny how people now praise Arsenal and Arteta some seasons ago he was trash he couldn't even be compared to Lampard but what Arteta received Lampard didn't, time and listening hears of the board and resources.

Well Arsenal were never a firing club per say. But I don't Bayern considered kompany's past season but his previous seasons in lower divisions, after all Bayern have a great squad in a weak league that should be easy even for Xabi to work magic why not Kompany. Even at that it's a first, to see a big club hire a manager from a relegated team that couldn't even put up a fight. But this football experts see something or else it has got to be the Pep influence.
Una go just dey cap carelessly with full confidence.

When was Lampard ever a better manager than Arteta?

Lampard took over a team that Sarri had just used to trash Arsenal in the Europa league final in 2019; Guess what he did with that team? He used that team to lose against Arteta's team in FA cup final 2020. That was Arteta winning his first cup less than one year of taking over at Arsenal.

Lampard was never a better manager than Arteta at any point in time. Lampard was a great football player , but a shitty manager. Everyone at Chelsea knows this, those at Everton know this as well.

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