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BronzeTiger:
Was osimhen not battling with injuries last season? He has gone on lengthy injuries again this season but he's leading the capocanoniere race with 22 goals. He has broken Samuel etoo most African goals in a season record and can still become the first african capocanoniere winner. Napoli's last three UCL goals were by him despite missing almost the whole group stage with injuries. And you say kwarashekere elevated his career?

**What eto record, Correct me but didn't Simeon Nwankwo score 22league goal the other season?

*Oshimen before Kvaradonna was getting outscored by Old men and flops. The highest tally in his career was 14 league goals. Tammy Abraham scored 17 in his debut season in Seria A. The presence of Kvara has elevated Oshimen career.

akwesenana:
Amala bandits many for the Nation sha.
He say 'kblalabla helped Osimhen's career.'

Before Kvaradonna came to Napoli Oshimen was getting outscored by the likes of Tammy Abraham, Real Madrid Borja Mayoral and Sassuolo Caputo. He was even getting outscored by Old retiree in Ibrahimovic. He should be thanking Napoli for buying Kvaradonna and helping his career.

Incognito9:
Napoli won 7 straight match without osimhen and scoring 22 goals combined in those matches blah blah blah

How many goals did kvara Kai Kai scored in those 22 goals infact what's his g/a in those 22 goals scored.

In 8 straight matches osimhen scored for Napoli, Napoli has a combined 21goals and osimhen scored 10 of those.

Guy u re just hating 😂

You don't even understand your own argument that's why you are neither here or there. You are just blabbing whatever comes to your mind. Somebody brought Oshimen being injured and said their performance dropped because of his injury so he Is their best player. I just causally reminded him that the same Oshimen was injured in September and Napoli won 7 straight matches without him. Without him they till averaged 3 goals per game in those 7 matches. No drop in form whatsoever without their so called best player.

BronzeTiger:
Yes that game showed it because after all the noise of kvara will show he's Napoli's main man ahead of the ac Milan match Napoli still drew blanks there. His replacement Simeone showed he's miles below osimhen. When osimhen was heavily manmarked at home it was his chance to step up but he blew all his final product finally ending with the penalty miss. I can also say since osimhen returned they've not yet lost any game compared to when they were battered by milan. You people praise kvara for his dribbles and playmaking but you sideline osimhen aside his goslscoring. Can kvara drag whole defences back like osimhen? Can he press defences like him? Can he chase long balls like him? Is he good in the air like him? Napoli also had a title charge last year before they later blew it to ac milan. But the constant there was osimhen scoring decently.

This same season they won 7 matches straight without Oshimen scoring 22goals in the process. The AC Milan match you are talking about Kvaratskhelia still had the most chances created and dribbles completed. He was a one man show who was unlucky. Like I said before Oshimen should be thanking Kvara for elevating his career.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHp8k06ngoc&pp=ygUaS3ZhcmF0c2toZWxpYSB2cyBBYyBtaWxhbiA%3D#bottom-sheet

BronzeTiger:
Osimhen is Napoli's best player this season. It was shown in the Napoli vs ac Milan ucl second leg when one missed a crucial penalty after being selfish for most of the game while the other still managed to claw one back after being manmarked by at least two players for much of the game then being ignored by some of his other teammates looking for glory.

Yes it was not shown in the matches they played from August to May, it was not shown when Oshimen was injured and Napoli won 7 straight matches scoring 22goals without him, it was not shown when Kvara won 3 player of the month award but it was shown in one match against Ac Milan. The same match were Kvara was Napoli danger man throughout creating the most chances, having the most shots and completing the most dribbles than anyone else.

liveLongNprospa:
Being comparable to someone in style of play doesn't mean you are as good as someone else on your team with a different type of play.
Guy this thing is not hard.
He gets compared to Maradona coz of their style of play.
Osimhen is a better player than him. Is more important to the team. Has the most contribution if I'm not mistaken.


And again just for you to understand where we are coming from.
That graphic being used is to show that kvaratskhelia is the best player in Napoli.
That's why people are pissed.

He is Napoli best player this season and has been nick named Kvaradonna the next prince for a reason. They see him as their next Maradonna and rightfully gave him his crown. Oshiemen has nothing in common or similar with Maradonna. Nigerians are only pissed because of country bias.

liveLongNprospa:
The significance of maradonna crowning that guy is to show he is the best player and the king of Napoli.

But majority of football fans and the media all know and have talked about Osimhen being the best and most important player to the team.

Also that someone is linked in terms of style of play to Maradona doesn't mean they are the best.

Their various contributions don't support your stance

You are arguing like you are confused. Maradonna is the king of Napoli and Napoli fans have referred to Kvara as their new Maradonna through out the season because of his performance and similarities to Maradonna. Is Oshimen comparable to Maradonna in anyway?

Incognito9:
I know the amala you're trying to turn here, let's kukuma remove all the goals osimhen scored for them this season, let's know how matches they would have won

What is the meaning of Amala turning? You are just dancing around with no point to hold on to. They fact he was injured and they continued their winning streak scoring insane amount of goals tells us everything. From August to March Kvaratskhelia was Napoli best player winning Seria a player of the month 3 times in that period. Oshimen should be thanking Kvara for elevating his career.

Incognito9:
Lol, let's say ur 6 and half, still not UpTo 7 matches you said.

They won those matches scoring almost 3 goals per game without Oshimen, Yes or No?

Incognito9:
Osimhen played the second leg against ajax and he scored in that match.

He was bought from the bench when they were already winning. He was inconsequential to that results. Give it and 6 and half if you like, doesn't change anything. Napoli won comfortably and scored goals without him.

Incognito9:
Check this ur info well

It's well checked. Oshimen was injured against Liverpool in September and Napoli won the next 7 matches without him. Spezia, rangers, Ac milan, Torino, Ajax, Cremonese and ajax again. They scored 22goals in those 7 matches.

larride:
Yes they did.

Now tell us how many points they lost with and without Oshimen, let’s compare.

You can do the maths for us and I don't understand how this proves anything about Kvaratskhelia not being Napoli best player. Oshimen was injured in September and Napoli won straight 7 matches without him.

larride:
Na simple question him ask sha. How many points did they lose when Oshimen was playing and when he didn’t.

They lost matches with and without Oshimen yes or no?

liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo.. Who was more impactful.
Who was the best.. That's how you crown the new king.

Not by style of play

The one who won 3 player of the month award which is a record and their new Maradonna. Tell us why they have been calling him their new Maradonna all through the season. That should tell you the amount of impact he has.

liveLongNprospa:
I did not hear about osimhen because I'm in Nigeria.
The sports pages on the Internet especially twitter talked about him.
Sports analyst especially on UCL nights praised him alot.
Infact at some point he was being propped up for balon D'or. That's how much hype he got this season.

Infact how well known is the Kvaradonna nickname tells you what you need to know.

It's well known Kvaratskhelia has been called Kvaradonna the entire season. They see him as their new maradonna. There's a reason he won 3 player of the month award including back to back. So tell me how Maradonna crowning a player they have been calling Kvaradonna the entire season is racism.

liveLongNprospa:
He was? And yet it was osimhen's name we were hearing about the most?

How is that possible?

You are in Nigeria hearing about a Nigerian player. Kvaratskhelia has the most player of the month award this season.

liveLongNprospa:
My brother in christ..
Please that picture shows Maradona crowning Kvara as the new king..
Not because of this your explanation

There's a reason Kvara has been called Kvaradonna the whole season.

iamoyindamola:
How many did they lose with osihmeh and without osihmeh
I am waiting?

They lost matches with and without Oshimen. The point you are trying to prove is non existent.

iamoyindamola:
Yet osihmeh has injury and they dropped points and lost out on UCL

They lost matches and dropped points with Oshimen playing as well.

liveLongNprospa:
I hope osimhen gets the mvp at this point with how the league is moving.
But people can see how a different form of bigotry can pain when it's carried out against a Nigerian

Maradonna and Kvara are similar players so it make sense. Both are dribblers who score and provide assists. Kvaratskhelia was the playmaker at Napoli just like maradonna was. His nick name is even Kvaradonna. It's just similarities of the players nothing to do with racism.

liveLongNprospa:
Osimhen more than deserves it.
He had the highest contribution to their title.
It's annoying that such a picture would even be posted.

Kvaratskhelia was actually Napoli best player from August to Early March before he dropped form.

Mrviktor:
Rashford won't deliver when u really need him to.

Unlike Benzema. Salah. Kane.. Halland.. Mbappe.. Lewandowski nd other top goal getters.

His conversion rate is really low

Rashford has actually been clinical this season. He has an xG of 13 but has 16 league goals. The problem is you only remember the ones he misses but not the other times he was clinical and scored from difficult positions winning us games. That's what stats will always show you.

Leyqute:
According to this stats, Man city has a better xGA than Newcastle yet they've conceded more than Newcastle.

We have the same xGA as Chelsea but they've conceded way more goals than we have.

Stats don't tell the whole story.

My point is simple: with Greenwood in this side, we'll score more goals. It doesn't matter if you have a low xG, you'll score more goals if your strikers are clinical.

Liverpool had an xG lower than 3 against us at Anfield but they scored 7 goals.

Stats will always tell the story if you are over performing or under performing. Having a low xG already tells us we are not creating enough clear cut chances. In terms of xG we are not top 4. Having an high xGa already tells us we are allowing the opponent to create clear cut chances. We are not top 4 as well in terms of restricting opponents from creating clear cut chances. Average possession we are not top 4 as well. xPTS we are not top 4 too. You are only looking at our performances and not the other team performances in matches we were lucky to win or get a draw this season. Infact using xPTS we are already over performing by being in 4th because our actual performance will have us in 6th talkless of being title contenders.

Leyqute:
Bros forget.

With Greenwood in this side, we’ll still be in the talk of the title race. We might not be strong contenders but we won’t be 15 points away from second place. Worst case scenario, we’d be 2 or 3 points away from number 2.

Brighton away, Leeds, Crystal Palace, Tottenham away, Newcastle home. We wouldn’t have dropped so many points unnecessary. Even that Arsenal away game we wouldn’t have lost.

People always underrate Greenwood until he starts scoring and proves them wrong.

We are not even amongst the top 4 teams in the league this season using underlying stats. xG( Expected goals) We are not top 4, xGA(Expected goal against) not top 5, xPts(Expected points) Not top 5. Using performance index Manchester city, Arsenal, Newcastle and Brighton have better than us this season. Stats doesn't back your opinion of us being title contenders even with Greenwood.

https://oddalerts.com/xg/premier-league

Jodera:
We would never know yet BUT there's no precedence we could hold onto. Like Trevor said, Greenwood have scored only 12goals in last 52 matches. This is not the stats of someone who alights EPL that you'll think with his presence alone, you guys would compete for the league.

Is this Rashford only season in which he's scored 20+ goals? I don't think so, and if I browse it, I'll be probably right that this isn't.

But have Greenwood ever scored 20+ goals?
Yet you feel he'll be the one to drag you guys as title challengers. Let's even pretend as if you guys have been dominating teams like the real "title challengers" sef?

Like I said earlier, biko no make us laugh

We wouldn't have been title contenders for sure but he would have scored a lot more than previous seasons. Take your own martinelli as an example who has 15league goals this season, that's the kind of progression Greenwood would have had. Martinelli had never scored double league digits goals before in his career, he has 15 this season and we all know Greenwood was the better and more clinical player between both. Martinelli has scored more goals this season than in his 3 other league season combined.

Casemiro is too reckless. Hope he doesn't get sent off

olabode89:
Enciso just dey dribble Case anyhow.

He has him on strings.

Shaw breaking line pases is reminding me of Martinez.

Casemiro is a really poor passer.

LostMyZeal:
We don't even hammer teams on a regular, but see the numbers and make a mental calculation of what it could've been if we had forwards who aren't selfish.

Look how we've fared in comparison to teams that are well organized. What do you see?


ETH will reign

I won't read much into that. Most of those goals came In the Europa and caraabo cup against weak teams. Our Premier league tally is a better indication of were we are and we are only outscoring the likes of Fulham, Villa, Leicester and Leeds by 3 to 5 goals. Infact we have scored the least amount of goals in the top 8.

Blake755:
That una dead midfield

Which position in the midfield?

Blake755:
Of course let's man u continue turning a blind eye
🇳🇱 Xavi Simons (20) has been involved in 30 goals (18G + 12A) in 44 games for PSV this season so far!

🔥 He has created 53 chances and completed 62 dribbles in Eredivisie this season.

✅ Second highest rated player in the league (7.86).
This guy and Bellingham who do you rate high above the other

What position should we sign him for?