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ovoP:
when club like city does this, you say they're buying the league..

Does United look like a sugar daddy club?

Yes we've spent a billion on transfers, but we should be spending a billion more. We are not a City or Chelsea who should just be grateful for whatever the owners put in to save them from being irrelevant. This is the club's own money and should be invested in the club, in the first team, the academy, the stadium, the training ground and so on.

ChristoBam:
If we spent 70m on Antony and it turns out it was a wrong signing. Guess what?

It's fvck off and make use of what you have from the Glaziers. No way, they'd spend on another RW.

This is a club that makes crazy money every year. From sweats of legends of this club(some who lost their lives in the process of trying to play for the club). These people put the Club on the world map and made it one of the most marketable in the world.

Exactly. We are Manchester feckin United, what’s the point in being a sporting powerhouse of a brand if we don’t have any financial power to outmuscle our rivals and retain our spot at the top table. Yeah we’ve wasted money, sure, but we should be able to spend double and correct it ffs! Its our money generated by the club and fans so should be spent on the club and infrastructures.

nitrogen:
Lol. Tell me banks or lenders that provide 90 percent of debt in an acquisition transaction? If you know what you are saying and you want to be transparent, you would have known or told us that they put in convertibles/PIK loans and equity. Equity was 10 percent, sub debt or PIK loans make up the 90 percent debt. Most times, you are not required to service the PIK loans. They are closer to equity because debt servicing is not mandatory!

Okay, back to how much they used to service loans. Yes, they spent 948 million on debt servicing for almost 20 years and spent over 1.5 billion on transfers on a 4 billion enterprise. That’s not bad at all. It shows they are good on the business/financial side of things. Moreso, they only paid dividends of 125 million in the same period. Can you tell me how much that is annually (that goes to them)? Less than 10m per annum. So tell me how they are taking money out!

What kinda further development do you want? Spend 3 billion on transfers in 20 years? You want us to spend more than what we’ve spent on transfers when we are the highest spender in Europe? That’s prodigality!

Honestly, you guys are just naive!

You are still typing on discussions with zero to little knowledge about. They continue to siphon tens of millions of pounds out of the club in dividend payments each year. They haven’t reduced the overall debt by any meaningful amount in years. We are still ~£500m in debt, the second-largest debt in English football after Spurs, who just a state-of-the-art football stadium whilst Old Trafford hasn’t had as much as a lick of paint in recent years. This is a club debtless before your darling owners Came in.

We are still the only club in the entire league paying dividends.

Other owners pump money from their pockets into the clubs they own while we have owners that continues taking without dropping a dime from their pockets. United interest payment of nearly 500M is more than the rest teams combined in the league for the last ten years and you are here talking nonsense about NetSpend.

nitrogen:
Buy the club and run it. Stop the shyte show. You can’t be telling a business owner how to run the show.

Mind you, they used their own money + loan to acquire the club. It’s their capital in the business. If you don’t like it, you guys should raise money and buy from them!

Stop typing in discussion you have little to zero knowledge about. They used 90% of loan money to purchase United and saddled it with debts to the bank. United was debt free before those leaches came into the club, saddled It with debt and took money from it. Since 2005 we have spent almost £704m on interest for the loans taken out by the Glazers. Since the leveraged buy-out we have spent £1.1 bln on financing ( £704m interest, £244m debt repayments and £125m dividends) Averaged £42m in last 5 years. We have spent nearly 1.1billion on the glazers from 2005 till now. 1.1billion taken away from the club that would have gone a long way in developing infrastructure and the squad further.

nitrogen:
What do you guys want sef? Nawa o! Do you want to teach them how to manage their business? They are spending, infact they’ve spent more than they should have spent in the last decade, yet, you guys are always complaining that they bleed the club and run a tight budget.

Is it their money they are spending or the money generated by the club?

raumdeuter:
No player excel in every tournament they ever played. We check their entire body of work in their career to determine flops like Hazard and those who excelled like Lewandowski

Do you agree Lewandowski flopped in 2018 world cup badly.......Yes or No?

FirstbornWds:
Lewy underperformed in the 2018 world cup.

Thats all am interested in.

raumdeuter:
Messi went to 2010 world cup and did not score one goal playing for almighty Argentina that made the quarters

No one will doubt him being the best player of his generation

But we have Hazard who has flopped everywhere. 4 CL career goals, flopped in La Liga flopped everywhere. Maybe he will try sumo football

I don't care about Messi or hazard you are bringing Into the discussion. It was your reply concerning Lewandowski performance in the 2018 world cup am only interested in. Do you agree he flopped in that tournament badly Yes or No?

FirstbornWds:
Staying for 15 years in top-flight football and scoring below 25 league goals until last season is also a failure.


Every top striker bar Ronaldo Messi can be guilty of things like this. Let's not make it all about Lewa

How has anything you have typed related with my discussion concerning Lewandowski and his performance at the previous world cup?

raumdeuter:
That was why they were the only team Poland could beat

Why didn't you striker score against any team in the group? Why didn't he score against Japan?

No matter how you spin it. 0 goal in a group containing Senegal, Japan and Colombia is a big failure for one of the best striker in the world.

raumdeuter:
These are better than Poland. How many players you don ever hear say come from Poland wey good?

How is Japan better than Poland?

Havertz10:
indeed, you are aware that there are people, even tuchel, that have stated that havertz is more talented than Dennis Bergkamp and van Persie combined.

In my opinion there's nothing like talent or more talented in football.

Please don't get carried away it's just pre season friendlies. I remember us smashing Liverpool and Madrid during pre season only to lose the first match of the season to Swansea under Van gaal. Ten matches into the new season will give us a clearer view.

andrewbaba44:
I Dey talk by current form you Dey tell me history

How does current form relate to being the biggest team in England? English is not that complicated na.

andrewbaba44:
Na my mouth you wan hear am ?

Mancity off course

What is this?

The biggest club in England is Manchester United followed by Liverpool. Man city won't even come top 4.

andrewbaba44:
Liverpool is the second biggest team in England currently

Who is the biggest team in England?

forgiveness:
For me, it's Real Madrid and Liverpool. Barcelona is past glory.

Lol Liverpool are not even the biggest team in England.

TrebleChamp:
Madam Chelsea made a huge bid for Raphinha, which Leeds United accepted. Raphinha rejected Chelsea and chose Barca. So the dead broke Barca improved on the offer and highjack the deal. It's that simple, plenty shalaye not necessary

Its more of Leeds using the news about Chelsea bid to bait Barca to pay higher and to hurry up because before Chelsea offer Barca were bidding very low. Leeds are the winners here.

Mikechinos:
Mehn Zidane igbal is the truth. Amad is just a waste pipe in this match

Even Pereira looked World class during Pre-season. You guys need to calm down. Pre season friendlies doesn't show anything and should not be taken seriously.

TrebleChamp:
Utdreport:
#mufc have been asked to pay combined transfer fees of €125m in order to sign Lisandro Martínez and Antony from Ajax #mulive [@DuncanCastles]

Too much for both players, Ajax really want to squiz us well. Both clubs should fine a middle ground asap, since ETH favours signing his former players....

That works out at £105 million which is £50 million for one and £55 million for the other.

Ibime:
CKays push didn't come from inside Nigeria, that's why it's difficult for Nigerians to accept. The Oyinbos made CKay big via TikTok. He is an International superstar that never developed a local fanbase, that's why these niggas are not accepting.

Thank you. Ckay will do huge numbers anywhere in the world and in any arena currently. He has mad international fans.

airmark:
Even Wizkid and Burna don't sellout all arenas. You are ludicrous.

kk.

a4turitoroman:
Loool

Yes you heard me right. It's only in Nigeria ckay for unknown reasons is not valued. Nigga is headlining shows in the freaking Caribbean.

hensben:
Ckay can only do club tours for now due to lack of many songs. Middle East and some Asian countries like India blew up LN via TikTok, the song got certification and numbers via streams.

Just stop please. Ckay is the most booked African artiste so far in 2022 with over 30 bookings across 20 countries while headlining 6 of them. You think show promoters are dumb or what. Ckay will sellout any arena in Europa, US and around the world currently. He is the most popular African artist in the world ryt now.

How can a song that have over 1.5 billion streams in all streaming platforms including sportify and even apple music be manipulated and be bots? What a silly excuse to come up with. If it's that easy then all artists for they chop that amount on a regular na.

Joezinho:
Kizz Daniel and Fireboy have more hit songs than most present day Nigerian artists...

By hit songs do you mean amount of streams world wide, awards nominations / Won or Charts topped?

Expert17:
Anything can happen apart from Blind marking and injuring his team mates, doing no look defending and keeping opponents onside.

Anything can happen is not answer but an easy cope out cause you have nothing tangible to say.

Expert17:
Key word here is intelligent, Maguire is not just slow but very very stupid

And Yeah, Blind is better than Magwayaaa

You actually didn't answer his question. He said you should place Daley blind In this current team with Fred and Mctom as midfielders in a high line and tell us what will happen? You are talking about intelligence when the initial discussion from the other page was about pace if am not mistaken.