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popizaino:
Delima has two world cup for Brazil where is Giroud's second for Brazil.

Delima has Copa America for Brazil where is Giroud euro cup ?

Delima won the world cup with Brazil winning the golden boot in a samba shirt where is Giroud's golden boot for France where Les blue shirt ?


Answer this and I don't go and start calling Rihanna, Wike,Mama Gee now to make your point.

As long as you know in the Real World nobody will ever compare Giroud and Delima Ronaldo so why are you wasting your time?

hensben:
Messi never struggled to score for Argentina, if it is so bring the stat let’s see how many games without goals that you term struggling. I’m not here for rollercoaster emotional debate, I’m telling you fact that Spanish national team were unimpressive in their wc win in most games, they crashed out in group stage the following wc while messi was still winning for Barca la liga and ucl plus individual awards. No way Barca will win ten la liga in present of Real Madrid without messi. For example, That was the difference between Messi and cr7 in their peak; Real Madrid as a team carried cr7’s effort to glory while messi as an individual carried Barca’s team effort to glory with his superior goals, asssist, driving force and playmaking. Messi was 3 in 1 player with his superior goals, assist and driving force, whereas cr7 was only outstanding in goals. Football statistics proved this fact.

Nonsense bickering. Spain dominated world football with that Barca core without Messi so no amount of long epistles is going to make it untrue. They didn't need Messi to be dominant or to dominate. During Spain dominance of world football Messi went to three competition back to back to back with Argentina without scoring a single goal. No single player carried Prime Barca.

andrewbaba44:
Is it an europa league finals or champions league ?

Was it not an European final?

hensben:
Same Spanish team that was knocked out the following wc in group stage. Messi took an unbalanced Argentina to wc final and won player of the tournament with his performance. Spanish team was unimpressive in their wc win if you really watch it, they nearly crashed out of group stage. It was fate that gave them that tournament, thanks to early red cards to Netherland. There is a reason Diego Forlan was the player of the tournament and not a Spanish player

All these are stories. Spain dominated world football with the core of that Barca team without Messi. In that same period Messi was struggling to even score for Argentina in major competitions. I repeat again no single player carried Prime Barca.

andrewbaba44:
Na Madrid you when be or Chelsea

It look like you are also obsessed with pendu the glory hunter

It’s well man

Did Chelsea win against Villarreal or not?

Expert17:
But Messi was the only Barca player winning the Ballon D'or, and was the only attacker scoring 50+ goals every season, he was their go-to-man know this and know peace.

Ask David villa how many goals he was scoring for Spain when he was enjoying their dominance and was their main striker.

andrewbaba44:
Not an europa league final or champions league

Thank you

It's an European final so rest.

hensben:
Barca dominated without messi? How old are you? You mean barca will win ten la liga in present of Madrid without messi. Yes country football is different, messi was still world best the year Spain won wc. You are yarning opata bruv. Salah and Messi in same sentence na big offense to football lovers.

That Barca core dominated international football without Messi. They didn't need Messi to be dominant or dominate. There's no difference whatsoever. Show us Messi Argentina performance during various international tournament during that period when Spain was dominating world football. He was struggling to even score for Argentina. No single player carried prime Barca.

andrewbaba44:
Epl teams will win when they play against themselves or another European team that’s not from Spain

You have amnesia right cause I can swear Chelsea won against Villarreal this season. Maybe they are from Germany not Spain.

andrewbaba44:
Benzema Na boss ,You can see that he did it without pendu ,did pendu do without him ?

No too carry Ronaldo matter for head oga

Why can’t pendu get past the quarter finals since he left Madrid ,I guess juve players aren’t good enough [s][/s]

According to your logic did Benzema score in the champions league final? That means he ghosted and was carried along right. You brought the logic not me.

Very soon it will be Benzema didn't score in the final so he ghosted and was carried along by Vinicius. Some logic exposes themselves.

andrewbaba44:


Ramos and co where not ghosting in finals .

I already agreed with your logic. Ramos and co were carried along.

andrewbaba44:
Sergio Ramos scored a late equalizer against ATM at the dying minutes to take the game to the extra time as they ended up winning

Bale carried madrid when they won Liverpool 3-1

Ronaldo ghosted in about 2 ucl finals for Madrid ,Ramos has always turned up with his defensive abilities

Ronaldo ghosted against Chelsea then ,all thanks to John terry famous slip

Say something else

So we are saying the same thing. Madrid don't need Ramos or his defensive abilities to win the Champions league since they just won without him one season after he left. In few years time when Modric leave and Madrid win another champions league then Modric was carried along and was not needed as well. Do the same with Benzema. Your logic is top notch.

hensben:
Country football is different. Moreover, that team consist of Madrid players too; Alonso, Ramos, Casillas, etc or didn’t you see Casillas World Cup save against Robben. Messi goals and assist return with his playmaking is what you are undermining, it seem you forget so soon.

Country football is not different. It's the same football. I said the core of that Barca team dominated world football without Messi which is true while Messi during that period was struggling with Argentina to even score goals in major competition. No single player carried peak Barca.

hensben:
Without Messi that team will never dominate la liga the way they did, they will just be tiki taka merchant while Madrid go home with the trophies at the end of the season.

Without Messi the same core dominated world football with Spain. No single person carried peak Barca.

hensben:
When did Messi and Salah become mate in football? Fear God Bruv.
Pep managed formidable Barca, Bayern and then money man city and yet to win ucl without messi. Pep is overrated, be truthful for once. Mou, Ancelotti are ahead of him due to the way they had their achievement.
Messi in his peak carried barca with his overall play while KLOPP tactics carries Salah. Salah was never rated before Klopp, whereas, messi was highly rated as a genius before and after pep. Spot the difference.

No single person carried peak Barca.

OhBritannia:
Bros are you joking with the bolded right now?
How can vinicus be in the balloon 'D" or top 5?
Shuo!! Bros na wa for you o.

Do you know the FIFA world cup will still play a huge role in determining who wins balloon D or.
Remember This is a world cup year.
All benzema has to do now to win the balloon D or Is for France to get to atleast semi finals and he can Only win if Lionel Messi or Ronaldo don't win the world cup.
If either Messi or Ronaldo wins the world cup then benzema loses the balloon D or and FIFA best player trophy.

But for now the top 5 for balloon D 'or' are.
Benzema.
Mane.
Mbappe.
The rest two that will join them will be determined by the world cup.
Vinicus is a good player no doubt but balloon D 'or' is out of his reach.

World cup has nothing to with Balon dor. The ceremony is in October.

I honestly didn't see how Trent was bad in this game.

andrewbaba44:
Chelsea is good no doubt ,but there was no time Chelsea have been rated higher than Bayern

Chelsea this season is better than Bayern of 2015. Bayern was a mess that season.

donstan18:
Trash

Nonsense

andrewbaba44:
Chelsea better than Bayern of 2015

Yes Chelsea are better than Bayern of 205

donstan18:
They were all champions in their league the season that qualified them to that UCL.

And please, Bayern and Juventus of 2015>>> This Chelsea and Liverpool.

Let me repeat it for you again in case you missed it.

This Psg is better than Psg of 2015
This City is better than City of 2015
Chelsea is better than Bayern of 2015
Liverpool is better than Juventus of 2015

donstan18:
Barcelona 2015 was clear..

PSG
ManCity
Bayern
Juventus

This Psg is better than Psg of 2015
This City is better than City of 2015
Chelsea is better than Bayern of 2015
Liverpool is better than Juventus of 2015.

Very soon they will tell us Madrid didn't need Sergio Ramos to win champions league and was just carried along since they have won without him. Then when Modric leave and they win champions league again it will reach Modric turn.

macjireh:
KLOPP AND PEP ARE VERY AVERAGE...IF IT WERE AN ALL ENGLISH FINAL,,KLOPP,,SALAH AND MANE WILL BE FEELING LIKE KINGS...THEY MET THEIR MATCH TONIGHT

Madrid had one shot on target. Met their match indeed.

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Ibime:
It's not as hard as you make out.

Government only needs to reduce access to guns by 70% to make a big difference

First criminalise sale of guns to the public. That takes new supply out the market

Offer a buyback of guns at double market rate to the citizens for an amnesty period, at the end of which possession will be criminalised.

This demand and supply dynamic will drive the price of illegal guns through the roof so that only those with financial means (and thus a level of mental stability) will be able to get hands on them.

This should take 70% of guns off the market, and stop further guns getting into the hands of new psychos with mental illness yet to reach age of maturity.

Criminals would always have guns, they do the world over, however access to people with mental health issues is too easy and too cheap at the moment. Criminals are more discriminate with their use of guns, your average 16-25 year old going through an emo episode isn't.

Buyback is never going to happen. Mandatory buy backs don't work. Didn't work in New Jersey when they were "forced" to turn in 15 round mags when they dropped the limit to 10. Didn't work in Australia the last time they did one, only a few hundred showed up. Didn't work in new Zealand when they tried to get rid of the AR15 after the mosque shooting, I dont think anyone showed up to that. I wonder where the US would get money for a buyback, though. According to the internet, there are 434 Million guns in the us; if the government offered $250 each, it would cost
$27,125,000,000 to purchase even 25% of the firearms in circulation.

nihilistjnr:
After the dunblane massacre in 1996, the UK outlawed private ownership of all handguns, and heavily restricted access to any other types of firearms.

These days, the average citizen can only get access to kakakpo shotgun, after extensive screening, and the local police must attend your house to check your gun cabinet is secure.

We no dey get mass shootings for here.

This is not to suggest that criminals don't have guns and use them. But the chances of you being shot during a crime are extremely low.

The narrative of culture blah blah is a myth. Mad people will always exist in this world. It is only in Yankee that those mad people have access to assault rifles and high calibre rounds.

Banning Guns in America like Uk is never going to happen. America is a nation of smaller countries (states) that have the ability to tell the federal government to fuc..k off. It's not like a european country where a single body makes all the laws and therefore all law enforcement is subject to that single body. This makes implementation of these laws much easier.

In America there is the split between federal and state enforcement, and as you see states can more or less decide for themselves what they wish to do. So on a national level you will never have what you want, and in a state to state level, well this adds fuel to the fire as laws in one state mean shi..t in another, so ultimately you have states where one legally buys firearms, is legally registered nationally, goes to another state, and then suddenly influx of firearms which is perfectly legal. Like I said only changes in the culture will make less people want guns.

donjazet:
The way americans weirdly celebrate gun culture is baffling. Another day, another mass shooting.
. America for you.

Gun ownership has turned into a religion of sorts in parts of this country, to the point that people put their firearms on the same level of importance to themselves as the Bible and family members. A few years ago when I was in Catholic church, the priest had to request people stop bringing their guns to church. He said that it is a place of worship, to preach love and peace, not a place for weapons. Outlawing guns won't fix this problem though. Only changes in the culture will make less people want guns. Extremely strict laws will just drive the illegal gun market and create more problems, like Prohibition did.

Capaldi:
[Florian Plettenberg] "News #Mané: He can really imagine to join #FCBayern this summer! There is movement in talks with the player and his management. Next 3-4 weeks are decisive. Nagelsmann & Brazzo want him. Transfer fee probably less than €50m. @SkySportDE #TransferUpdate"

Liverpool are going to lose both Mane and Salah.