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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 3:06pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
You're the one's that being silly here. We didn't translate our away form to Old Trafford cuz we were not at that level. You're basically saying we should have won the league unbeaten. Cuz that's what translating that form to Old Trafford means. We were good but not the best. At no point did I say we were the best.

We went away to Anfield, Ethiad, Stamford Bridge, Emirates and every single ground in the league and came out unbeaten. That's a good feat no matter how you try to downplay it to fit your agenda.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 3:05pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
You're the one's that being silly here. We didn't translate our away form to Old Trafford cuz we were not at that level. You're basically saying we should have won the league unbeaten. Cuz that's what translating that form to Old Trafford means. We were good but not the best. At no point did I say we were the best.
We were not that good last season full stop and same issues were exposed this season. Several factors like Liverpool having injury issues and Chelsea with Lampard was the only reason a poor United team finished 2nd. You keep parroting 2nd like we were Liverpool who finished 1point behind city after giving them a title chase in order to drive home your agenda won't work.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:50pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
Do you even know what you're saying? You're basically saying we should have gone the whole season unbeaten then to prove we were good? Lmao. You're the incoherent one.
Another incoherent post. Seems everything just fly above your small head. I am asking you why we didn't translate our away form to Old Trafford? Why didn't we go unbeaten in the Europa league away from home since we were very good away from home in the league? When you add context to the finishing 2nd you keep Parroting you will understand better.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:42pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
Yeah, we didn't have our injury problems too? Like we didn't have to manage playing most of the season with an injured Rashford. Like we didn't have to mix Thursday night football with the league matches. Like we didn't go the whole season unbeaten away from home. Everyone with their excuses.
This is incoherent. Why didn't we extend the unbeaten to Old Trafford? Why didn't the unbeaten away run include the Europa league where they had fans? Your Points don't even have any foundation to stand on. If you think we were excellent and swash buckling last season then I have to leave you to your own fantasy world.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:26pm On May 04, 2022
The way people keep mentioning this 2nd without context is something I will never understand. Liverpool had injury problems, Chelsea had Lampard for half the season,there was no fans for majority of the season which helped us away from home and our home record in the league was very very terrible. When parroting things please add a bit of context to it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bombblacks: 2:21pm On May 04, 2022
andrewbaba44:
I don’t know how many of the 4-0 we will score ,but it’s a 50/50 thing

The last time we scored 5 against Madrid xavi have left Barca and Messi was injured
How can it be a 50/50 thing? Bro forget about it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:15pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
Keep missing the point. Bruno has always been known for poor ball retention right from his days in Portugal . Never hindered the way he affected every single game. Now man's playing like a confused Iwobi.

Rashford also was overdoing things and losing possession, playing like Richarlson sometimes. But didn't hinder him from affecting every single game positively. Man had like 30 goal contributions. Formed great partnership with Luke Shaw and Bruno. Greenwood was loving life with Bissaka that looks like a Congolese driller this season.
So your entire basis of saying Ronaldo affect Bruno and rashford is not even about how they play or their improvement/ Stagnation of last season to this season but goals plus assist stats? Why have i been wasting my time then.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:08pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
Lmao keep dribbling.
Am dribbling cause I changed my view based in what I watched or what? I don't understand the point you are trying to pass.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:06pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
All the long talks won't change what you said. Rashford was lazy bla bla but he was effective in front of goal. No one said Rashford is uninterested last season. Stop trying to change history.

Bruno of this season is the same of the last but last season he was dropping goals and assists for fun. All those late runs into the box and scoring soft goals is gone. All those audacious shots from outside is gone. Remember that cantona celebration last season? The paalties you're trying to say Bruno used to cover some bad performances, Bruno missed his last 2 this season. Confidence gone! How can you say Bruno and Rashford this season are the same as last season? Jokes.
Should I bring out Posts on people talking about Rashford and Bruno last season?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bombblacks: 2:03pm On May 04, 2022
andrewbaba44:
As much as we have won in the past el Classico

They have always been 5-0 4-0 5-1 in the el Classico for the past few years ,Madrid will win some and Barca will win some ,but those disgracing scoreline will always come in Barca way grin
Not talking about the last El Classico scorelines with Xavi, Suarez or Messi etc. This season with the strength of both teams , If Madrid and Barca are to meet 10 more times again this season, how many do you think Barca will be able to win by that 4:0 scoreline?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 1:59pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
Don’t give me all of that. This was you before Ronaldo played his first game.
I had my doubts about the transfer, but like I said previously I have watched all our matches this season to draw my current conclusion. The same issues we had last yesterday are the same one we had this season which had nothing to with Ronaldo.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 1:56pm On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
Don’t give me all of that. This was you before Ronaldo played his first game. It’ll affect Greenwood, Bruno and Rashford. Look at the season of those 3 especially Rashford and Greenwood. It has obviously affected them. According to you, we were winning with the individual brilliance of these guys last season. Where has all the all the individual brilliance gone to?

Most of y’all know the truth. This points to the fact. But for whatever reason y’all just want to stay blind to the truth staring you in the face.
Individual brilliance is always going to fade and end up badly when their is no tactical plans to go with that which happended. It ran it course and was bond to fail spectacular sooner or later. That's Football 101 right there. Let's look at the players you mentioned. Rashford last season was criticised here for exactly the same thing this season (Lazy, uninterested and undisciplined) I remember lequete always talking about rashford and there's few argument about how his charity work could be affecting him, all these happened last season. Greenwood missed half of the entire season for reasons we all know about so I will pass on that. Bruno deficiencies are the same thing as last season which everyone asked him to improve on(Ball Rentation, Helping the midfield,) etc. Bruno had many bad games last season which he covered up with a goal mostly a penalty or an assist. There's no difference between the Bruno of this season and last season if you actually watch them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bombblacks: 1:41pm On May 04, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Stop disgracing yourself

4-0 and outplaying your team and pocketing almost all your key players aren’t fluke

You have been beating Barca by one goal difference several times and we didn’t call that one fluke but you wanna call a 4-0 fluke cheesy cheesy cheesy
Quick fictitious question, If Madrid and Barca are to meet 10 more times again this season, how many do you think Barca will be able to win by that 4:0 scoreline?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 10:25am On May 04, 2022
ChristoBam:
You know the funny things is that before Ronaldo played his first game for United this season, you said it yourself that Ronaldo’s signing will affect Rashford, Bruno and Greenwood. You called it right then. So why’re you now acting like he’s not affecting these players in a bad way?
Because I have watched all our games this season to draw my conclusion. The deficiencies of last season was still present so it had nothing to with Ronaldo.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 11:45pm On May 03, 2022
ChristoBam:
I can pinpoint the exact problem with Ronaldo in the team but I think it had to do with our style of play. We never used to do any of those cutbacks from the wings. We played direct and almost counter like football. Apart from the pressing part, I swear it was similar to what Rangnick wanted the team to do when they had the ball.
We had no style of play last season , don't just even go there. Everyone was complaining on how it was individual brilliance that was carrying us. Greenwood was called out for being Stingy as well even last season. We played the same disjointed football with no attacking cohesiveness, constantly relying on individual ability to win us games and that did not changed with Ronaldo under Ole earlier in the season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 11:25pm On May 03, 2022
ChristoBam:
Lol you obviously get what I'm saying but just want to keep arguing. Like I said before, Dybala won't suddenly start scoring 30 goals because Ronaldo left after those 3 years of obscurity. You don't get over that easily.
If you were right then Dybala should have exploded this season and the rest wingers as well since Ronaldo left but that as not been the case which makes you point dead.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 11:11pm On May 03, 2022
ChristoBam:
He's not suddenly going to get the confidence in front of goal back.
The team style of play changed and they've played that way for about 3 years. It won't suddenly revert back.

The biggest part of everything is, I doubt that confidence, mentality is still there. That happens to anyone after almost 3 years of obscurity.
Nah this is just cheap excuse. If Dybala had gone back to his 30 goal contribution you wouldn't hesitate to use it to further your agenda. if you look at Juve this season now he's gone, there has not been some sudden resurgence of goal scoring from other players which proves your theory wrong.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 10:45pm On May 03, 2022
ChristoBam:
You expect him to start banging in goals immediately Ronaldo left? It doesn’t work like that.
Yes I expect him to. How does it now work?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 10:38pm On May 03, 2022
ChristoBam:
What’s the point of mentioning how we could not beat Villarreal last season? We were better last season than this season. Simple!

I can pinpoint the exact problem with Ronaldo in the team but I think it had to do with our style of play. We never used to do any of those cutbacks from the wings. We played direct and almost counter like football. Apart from the pressing part, I swear it was similar to what Rangnick wanted the team to do when they had the ball.

First thing I saw after a few matches with Ronaldo. Players like Greenwood were being called out for being stingy. Ronaldo and Bruno were running into the same spaces. Shaw and Rashford used to combine effectively at that left wing but now, when the attack starts, Ronaldo is mostly drifting from that left wing.



Btwn how Dybala went from 27 goal contributions the season before Ronaldo joined to 9 goal contributions the season he joined needs to be studied.
And now without Ronaldo how many goals contribution does Dybala have?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:11pm On May 03, 2022
Roy Keane all time United Epl 11.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 11:41am On May 03, 2022
tesppidd:
Good you agree.
Kk
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 11:36am On May 03, 2022
tesppidd:
It is not always good to bad.

Sometimes it is bad to worse.

grin
k
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 11:30am On May 03, 2022
Lana1:
I be like Ronaldo fan to you? The emphasis of my post is how rubbish the players were last season and this season.

And if you've been reading posts on this thread for a while instead of logging in to engage in Ronaldo and Messi arguments you'll realise many of us have been complaining about the players since the days of Mourinho.
Bro you are wasting your time. United was perfect and all the players were world class until the big bad Ronaldo showed up and destroyed a perfect team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 11:25am On May 03, 2022
patrickmuf:
I really don't know if it's the management of City and Liverpool or if it's down to Pep and Klopp on the other side but the respective players are not always on social media before games or after games...They seem more focused on the job at hand...

Hopefully, Ten Hag will address this issue when he comes. I am tired of seeing our players on instagram and Twitter before and after games as if it's what they think of in the course of the game...
They are always on Social media as well. Go and follow City/Liverpool/Chelsea players on Twitter and Instagram and you will see they post alot before and after games. You don't just hear about it because they are not United Players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 8:49am On May 03, 2022
hensben:
Except you want to be economical with the truth, Messi improve team play with his diverse talent(playmaking and goal scoring).
I ask again what attacker will Messi improve at United and how many attackers has he improved at Psg? Why didn't he improve Coutinho, Dembele , Griezmann etc at Barca? Why do you all like to keep setting Messi up for drags over and over again.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 8:35am On May 03, 2022
Phock2sweet:
let ronaldo play playmaker role in manure, we want to check something
Is that the answer to my question?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 8:18am On May 03, 2022
hensben:
They are blind to accept this fact. So far cr7 is scoring meaningless goals for self glory is okay for them. Imagine messi in that man u team he will improve those young attackers with his play. I mean, messi carried a finished barca for years to la liga and domestic trophies.
What attacker will Messi improve at United and how many attackers has he improved at Psg?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 10:23am On May 02, 2022
Seems Barca are resolved to letting De jong leave for the right amount. Yay or Nay?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bombblacks: 6:52pm On May 01, 2022
Capaldi:
Arsenal winning today means Tottenham needs to get something from the Liverpool game next week.
Liverpool title chase is going to end on Saturday.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 6:44pm On May 01, 2022
Apparently Ralphina has a release clause of 25million if Leeds get relegated.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bombblacks: 2:23pm On May 01, 2022
Jodera:
it's funny because with or without Ronaldo, they were winning it for YEARS and that's fact. Ronaldo added nothing new or extraordinary to that winning Serie A
You didn't answer the question. Has Lewandowski goals not been leading Bayern to win the Bundeliga for the past few years so why not Ronaldo at Juventus? If Bayern for example sells Lewandowski and buys Haaland who proceeds to Score 25 to 30 league goals en route to them winning the league, did he lead them or not?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bombblacks: 11:36am On May 01, 2022
Jodera:
Lol, leading juventus to a league they've been perennially winning for over 5times in a row?? Funny

The only time Ronaldo won Serie A top scorer award, juventus narrowly qualified for the champions League. Guess what? He was benched for that most crucial match of the season that made them to qualify for the UCL. I mean your Goat was benched in the last match of the season o, even sub him no see grin
Dem no wan risk their ucl qualification with Ronaldo's presence. A very wise choice they made grin

The only Goat that can turn perennial winners to ordinary team grin
What's funny about it? Has Lewandowski goals not been leading Bayern to win the Bundeliga for the past few years so why not Ronaldo at Juventus.

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