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Android22:
Also, 2017:

2017: one of the most intelligent. As clear as day.


https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Android22:
Which of your links adds that he ENJOYED (past tense) coaching him? lol

Check the link for your self. Go and read them


2013: He boldly stated most intelligent


https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/pep-guardiola-philipp-lahm-is-the-most-intelligent-player-i-have-ever-trained


2017: It became One of the most intelligent I have coached

https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Expert17:
I don't know how to read the data? Lol
I watched Ederson @ Benfica, I'm not even using his EPL heroics to judge him.

Ok kindly bring out Ederson passing stats at Benfica.

Android22:
I attached your screenshot and mine so that people can see if both quotes are the same.

In one he adds I enjoyed coaching him which implies he no longer coaches him. Yet he made the same statement that you cannot deny.

Pic 1 is from your link. Pic 2 is from mine. Both are different times. One in 2013, the other after Pep has left Bayern.

Try again.

I have dropped the two links to each statement Pep made in 2013 and 2017. Go and read them


2013: Most intelligent

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/pep-guardiola-philipp-lahm-is-the-most-intelligent-player-i-have-ever-trained


2017: One of the most intelligent

https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Expert17:
Do you know his definition of intelligence?

It might be ability to understands his tactics once or anything else....

Your argument is base on probability and what if. I don't debate what if. The only fact we have here is Pep statement changed immediately he wasn't coaching lahm any longer. It went from the most intelligent to one of the most intelligent.

Expert17:
Sweeping = Neuer, thanks to Bayern high line and farmers league.

Passes/distribution = Ederson.

I can mention up to 10 errors Neuer has committed while trying to play from the back in the farmers league.

Do you even understand how to read this data you just posted and how does it help your argument with only one season sample size? Ederson cannot even touch Ter stegen talkless of Neuer when it comes to passing and distribution. Let's leave it at that.

Android22:
Even your caption has shown you that you were wrong. Just admit it so I can then show you Neuer's blooper reel.

I have dropped the two links to each statement.

2013: Most intelligent

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/pep-guardiola-philipp-lahm-is-the-most-intelligent-player-i-have-ever-trained

2017: One of the most intelligent



https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Expert17:
It's a simple stuff, he met players as intelligent as Lahm when he joined Man City.

So you mean Manchester city had more intelligent players than the Barca he coached before going to Bayern? This explanation doesn't have foundation to stand on.

Android22:
Is this not clear enough? The screenshot is after he left Bayern. Hit redial.

2013: Most intelligent

2017: One of the most intelligent

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/pep-guardiola-philipp-lahm-is-the-most-intelligent-player-i-have-ever-trained


https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Expert17:
His opinion on Messi and Busquets hasn't changed.

Do you know what it means for a GK to beat Man City midfielders in passing drills? Neuer makes a lot of mistakes with his feet and his passing range is not up to Ederson's level despite playing in farmers league. I guess you are confusing sweeping with ball playing/distribution.

What opinion on Messi and Busquet are you referring to and how Is that relevant here? Ball playing under pressure, Sweeping and ability to pick passes from the 18yard box to anywhere Neuer is better than Ederson.

Android22:
So you won't pretend you did not see it. This is not 2013 as you can tell that Pep had left Bayern and he still called Lahm the most intelligent.

Pep statement in 2013 and 2017 are very clear. In 2013 he said most intelligent and in 2017 changed to "one of the most" intelligent player I have coached.


https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Android22:
lol I COACHED him at Bayern. Did you skip that part?

How Is that relevant to the statement of "Most intelligent I have ever coached" in 2013 and "one of the most intelligent I have coached" in 2017?

Android22:
He said one of the best I ever coached in 2017. And still maintained he was the most intelligent.

That screenshot is from 2013. The one he said in 2017 was one of the most intelligent I have coached and not the most intelligent I have coached like in 2013. Two different statement.

Expert17:
What if he has seen another intelligent player like lahm? so the statement is right.

Remember Pep didn't retire in 2013.

An argument with what if has no substance. The point here is pep has always been known to praise his current players which means nothing in the long run and shouldn't be taken as fact. Pep saying good things about Ederson is normal. He said Neuer was the best goalkeeper he has ever coached as well and Lewandowski was the most professional player he has coached in his career while at Bayern or how he said he would love 1000 Dantes in his team only to discard him later on.

Android22:
He said one of the best. He still said most intelligent. Remember you first claimed he only made that statement in 2013?

2013: He said most intelligent I have coached

2017: He said one of the most intelligent I have coached.

2 Different statement.

Android22:
He said it again in 2017 when Lahm retired. lol

In 2017 he never said the most intelligent like he said in 2013. It became "one" of the most intelligent I have coached.

Android22:
He still said so after he left just like he still calls Messi the best player he has ever coached.

He said so only in 2013.

Expert17:
Nah, he started his career as a midfielder and even beat his Man City teammates in passing drills.

For sweeping Neuer is better but that passing/distribution and confidence on the ball; Ederson is very very clear.

Let's agree to disagree.

Android22:
Pep said the most intelligent player he ever coached was Lahm. Not Iniesta, not DeBruyne, not Rodri, not Xavi. But sure, when it comes to Keepers, he will have to lie to protect his keeper.

Pep said that in 2013 about lahm and guess what team he was coaching?

Expert17:
Their coach (pep) pick Ederson as the best.

Sweeping - Neuer
Ball playing - Ederson.

Fun fact- Ederson can pass the ball better than McFred.

Ofcourse pep will pick his current goalkeeper to boost morale. Same way he praised Bravo as the best goalkeeper in the world and how he said Foden is the most talented player he has seen. Neuer tops Ederson in all aspects.

Android22:
Ederson is better at sweeping and ball playing.

If Neuer is 9.5/10 with his hands he is 8/10 with his legs/feet. Ederson is 7 with his hands and 9.9/10 with his feet. That is what makes Neuer the overall better keeper.

Neuer is better than Ederson in all aspects. Shot stopping, ball playing and sweeping.

What am I reading? Neuer is the one who revolutionalized goalkeeping with his ball playing and sweeping ability. Perfect combination of shot stopping with ball playing and sweeping ability. Ederson has nothing on him.

You all are acting like Man city needed Haaland goals to win the league when they won it back to without him scoring 99 and 96 goals respectively. Why the overreaction?

Unlimited22:
E no really concern me tbh. I'm talking about England own

Ok noted.

Unlimited22:
Less than 30 hours to the window closing, you're bidding for Edson Alvarez from an Ajax team whom you don't want to send Ziyech to, and who have already lost Ryan Gravenberch, Noussair Mazraoui, Antony, Sébastian Haller and Lisandro Martinez.


Amazing.

Just a correction Netherlands transfer window ends today.

raumdeuter:
Ronaldo Limas peak was from 19 to 25 after that he dropped off

He is still regarded as one of the greatest players ever

Is that a yes or a no? What time span/period is enough to be regarded as peak performance to judge a player (a year, 3yr, 5yrs etc)?

raumdeuter:
A player is evaluated for what he does at his peak not what he does after. Ronaldinho will be for his exploits at Barcelona not in Milan. Messi will be judged for what he did at Barcelona not what hes doing at PSG

Peak is kind of vague. What happens when a player peaks from 21 to 25 then drop off?

Karleb:
PSG payed 222 for Neymar
Barca payed 105, 122 and 120 for Coutinho, Dembele and Greezman
Real Madrid bought Hazard for 103
Chelsea bought Kepa, Werner, Lukaku for how much again sef?
How much did Atletico buy Felix again?
How much did it cost PSG to get Mbappe?


Those complaining about Anthony fee are not serious.

What kind of logic is this?

FirstbornWds:
He finished 3rd

Did Poch finish 2nd at Tottenham or not?

WhoDeyHause:
No because it was not expected .

Same thing that applies to ranieri applies to Pochettino here too.

WhoDeyHause:
Leceister that he bottled the league to won their first ever premier league title that year so this can never be an excuse for bottletino.

How can a club that was not expected to finish top 4 before the season starts bottle a title. If Leicester had finished 2nd that season, would you call ranieri a bottler and a useless coach?

WhoDeyHause:
Was it to only be qualifying for top 4 Levy signed him?

How many times have Tottenham finished in top 4 for 22yrs before Pochettino?