MaxInDHouse:


At least you can see for yourself now that you were MISLED.

Next time try to investigate matters thoroughly before jumping to conclusion.

I never said i am not a Christian neither did i say Jehovah's Witnesses aren't Christians rather what i'm saying and will continue to say is that the group name CHRISTIANS has been BASTARDIZED and CURSED due to politicians claiming Christians so that name doesn't merit it's original purpose as Jesus said his disciples will become the light of the world to be noticed globally.
Today his true disciples are maintaining that legacy but unfortunately billions bearing that group name have defamed it with their falsehood and deeds.
So who are the true Christians today as in those PRACTICING what Jesus taught?

If you're interested in that let me know so we can both continue our discussion but on this note i'm done!

FxMasterz:


Boomark of Satan is not interested in the truth. He is a liar himself and therefore loves fellow liars. That's why he's in bed with the liars on this thread.

achorladey:



Boomark of God already knows MaxInDHouse is lying and manipulating his words regarding him being a Christian. My post should help Boomark to see more evidence to nail MaxInDHouse as a liar.

MaxInDHouse:


So you can't quote where i specifically said:

"MaxInDhouse is not a Christian"

Guy stop running to conclusions instead try to always engage people in person to know what they meant.

Emusan who kept asking that question knew better than you do because he knew i will never ever say i'm not a Christian but he was manipulating gullible followers like you who are inexperienced.

I am a CHRISTIAN but i won't agree with others who aren't ready to engage themselves in the work Jesus assigned his disciples that they are my brothers in Christ.

MaxInDHouse:


Mr Bookmark you're supposed to be FIGHTING with MaxInDhouse and not one of our friends..... achorladey

FxMasterz:


Boomark of Satan will say it's a lie. He'll ask you to stop lying against Max. He shuns all forms of evidence. He embraces only the lies in his heart as truth.

FxMasterz:


Boomark of Satan will say it's a lie. He'll ask you to stop lying against Max. He shuns all forms of evidence. He embraces only the lies in his heart as truth.

MaxInDHouse:


So you can't quote where i specifically said:

"MaxInDhouse is not a Christian"

Guy stop running to conclusions instead try to always engage people in person to know what they meant.

Emusan who kept asking that question knew better than you do because he knew i will never ever say i'm not a Christian but he was manipulating gullible followers like you who are inexperienced.

I am a CHRISTIAN but i won't agree with others who aren't ready to engage themselves in the work Jesus assigned his disciples that they are my brothers in Christ.

MaxInDHouse:

Can you quote any of my comments where i explicitly said this?

To illustrate think of a situation where medical personnels are to work together against a deadly disease but some people now came up claiming they are also medical personnels and they want to be part of the team, you and other (trained) personnels tried all what you can do to get them informed regarding the disease and all the information expertise have given you but these people disagreed yet they are claiming medical personnels will you like to be called along with them?

Surely you will prefer another group name that will exclude them for a sound reason so that by the time someone ask you why refused to join them you will explain.

So i am a CHRISTIAN but that doesn't make me and any other religionist brothers in Christ simply because such a person also claim to be a Christian. I can only agree that you are one of my brothers in Christ if you're ready for the assignment Jesus gave all his disciples.

If you're following what others say that's your own cup of coffee next time ask the person in question not just reading comments from different commentators and running your own conclusion.

FxMasterz:

You are a JW for sure. You're bitter that a Winners Pastor didn't assist you. This forms the basis for your satanic bitterness and demonic love for falsehood and deceit. If you're not a JW, show proof of the current church you attend. Bring ordination certificates. Boomark of Satan is a confirmed Charlatan for his inability to produce an ordination certificate. He keeps lying and giving flimsy excuses with no evidence. No proof! No single proof!

While there are bad pastors in every Church, Winners pastors would not block you for asking for help. They'll refer you to the Welfare department instead. The pastor is not the one to take care of your welfare needs. The welfare department would look upon your request and forward it to the pastor. Once the pastor approves it, it goes to the account office for disbursement. Welfare is not his responsibility. It doesn't have to come from his pocket. So, he doesn't need to block you because of welfare requests.

If any Winners Pastor blocks you, it will be because you're of a very bad character with a useless and unreliable personality. He must have regarded you as someone undeserving because of your pestilent attitude like the one you're currently displaying on Nairaland - lying and supporting evil. Which pastor would like to associate with someone who constantly tells lies, has a pestilent attitude and contributes nothing to the society and congregation. Always begging, begging and begging with an unrepentant stinking character. After the pastor gets tired and frustrated because of your bad character, he blocked you. Your case would be the only one among 1 million cases of those who beg pastors for help in Winners.


Foolish Boomark of Satan, I will never link you with Oyedepo with this your kind of lying, deceitful and pestilent attitude. God forbid. You don't have any proof of you being an evangelist. See the fool, he wants to provide proof only after I link him with Oyedepo. Do you have sense at all?

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Bitter boomark of Satan. You are a JW, give us evidence of your present church where your were ordained an evangelist. I know you cannot dare fulfil the challenge. No evangelist would ever talk and say "If you are really a pastor, then you are not just a liar but also evil and wicked."

I know that you will come up with lies and excuses. This is how liars do. They'll make clams about what they're not. Just ask them to provide evidence, they start singing another song, giving excuses and start philosophizing on why they can't produce evidence. Bitter, lying boomark of Satan, you have no iota of shame.



Bitter lying boomark of Satan. Neither I nor the Church invented the certificate. Certificates were invented by the Academia. As the Church grew, the church also eventually adopted certificates to ward off Charlatans like you. Any church that ordains you would give you a certificate as proof. The Apostles didn't have certificates but often wrote letters of endorsement. They wrote of Paul and Barnabas. They wrote for Paul and Silas. Paul wrote for Titus and Timothy. Letters of endorsement were often used in the early
Church to certify people who do the work of God.

Now, let me provide more evidence of JW scripted talks. I already told you that two ex JW members here confirmed it. No JW current member denied it. Since it didn't sink into your deceptive mind that this alone is evidence that they script their talks, I'll bring you more evidence from Quora.

A curious JW member - a new member asked the question after observing how their talks are in their kingdom halls. He became really curious and took the question to Quora. Both current and ex-members of JW answered the question in a way that corroborated what has been stated here with more lights even shed.

I am sure that your deceitful self will not consider these evidences. You would look away as you have always done in order to follow your false narratives and call others liars for telling you the truth. Liars never change without the help of the Holy Ghost. So, I don't expect you to change or even have any remorse after seeing these evidences Anyone expecting changes from the Bitter boomark of Satan, lover of lies and hater of truth is actually deceiving himself.

There were many responses on Quora confirming their scripting. I'm showing you a few here because Nairaland can't take more per post.

FxMasterz:

Boomark of Satan, I was a Winners Pastor 23yrs ago. If you attended Winners Chapel, show us your WOFBI certificate. Winners does not ordain evangelists. You lying Boomark of Satan. Show us your certificate of ordination as an evangelist from Winners Chapel!

Is this what you even call a rebuttal? A rebuttal devoid of evidential proofs is not a rebuttal. Mere words or empty claims don't ever count as rebuttals. Are you educated at all!? Bring out your evidences and proofs! You don't prove anything by shouting here and there. Hope you hear me, Boomark of Satan?

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So, you ordained yourself an evangelist? Lol. The Gift of Evangelist is a calling and Devine ordination into one of the 5 fold offices. When anyone is called into any of these offices, there's a Spiritual ordination followed by a physical ordination by a Spiritual father, leader or mentor who pours oil on your head to signify the free hand of fellowship extended to you to operate in that office in the body of Christ. Such physical ordinations usually come with certificates. Who ordained you? Where were you ordained? Who is your father? Where's your certificate of ordination?



You lying son of Satan. There was nothing called certificate in the days of the apostles. However, there were open endorsements. As the Church grew, certificates were invented and therefore became necessary so in the church so as to fish out Charlatans like you. By confessing that you are an evangelist without a certificate, and not mentioning a physical ordination, you are a self acclaimed fake evangelist without any endorsement by the body of Christ!



Keep your mouth shut!

So, it is God-made doctrine that there is no hell fire? That Jesus is Angel Michael? That only 144,000 people would be saved? That Jesus came in 1914 and started ruling as a mighty spirit King?

You deceitful son of a lying father. Show us your WOFBI certificate. Who is your father? Give us the proof of non-scripted JW talks as evidence. If you cannot provide all these 4, your are a confirmed liar and agent of hell. Boomark of Satan, I'm waiting for you!

MaxInDHouse:


This really amuses me walahi talahi.

Because we don't welcome leniency from what is not in accord with our faith so you are free to label us with whatever comes into your mind {Matthew 10:24-25} as long as you're not ready to humbly learn from us you are not worshiping the same God with us therefore you can't be one of our brothers {Matthew 12:46-50} of course you're a neighbor just like all others around the world so we must love you {Mark 12:32} but when it comes to our family in the house of faith NO Sir you're not one of us!

I never ever had a different belief from the whole association of Jehovah's Witnesses!

MaxInDHouse:


I know from the onset that you can't easily grasp why all these religionists are saying all sorts of things against Jehovah's Witnesses but now you know.
You are not my brother unless you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

[b]That is why no JW will stand or sit with you for prayer unless you're ready to humble yourself and learn what our God commanded us to keep on doing! John 17:8-9; Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14

Now you know what has been causing the big issue, you may wish to be one of our brothers but that's impossible unless you're ready to abide by the same rules with us! Matthew 12:46-50

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:


Do you mean religionists claiming Christians or those PRACTICING what Jesus taught?

This is why Jesus said:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will RECOGNIZE them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will RECOGNIZE those men" Matthew 7:15-20

Each religion has a head or a small group that's heading the religion according to Jesus the head or small group heading such a church shouldn't be our focus when we are on the look out to RECOGNIZE true and FALSE PROPHETS rather we should concentrate on the result of what members of each church turns out to be globally.

• Jesus commanded all his disciples to preach and teach about God's Kingdom from house to house. Matthew 10:11-13
• While doing so their teaching should be in harmony globally. John 17:22
• They should have love among themselves just as Jesus loves them. John 13:34-35
• They can't be in the army because that will negate the idea of being one body as soldiers in one country always view soldiers in other countries as enemies deserving death at war and Jesus' real disciples must love their neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} and their fellow believers just as Jesus loves {John 13:34-35} which means they should be ready to lay down their own life for their fellow believers so they must not raise weapons against anyone from the authorities. Matthew 26:52

All these will WORK towards the achievement of one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally just as God promised {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} this is what proved that Jesus is TRULY WORKING {Act 1:8} as the Prince who is uniting faithful people throughout the earth under his headship as their Master, Lord and King! Isaiah 9:6

Ọmọ only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is doing this today!

So if you think all religions claiming Christians are in the same body yet they are contradicting themselves to the point of raising weapons to slaughter one another during tribal and ethnic crisis i totally disagree with you!

FxMasterz:

A vague question that doesn't address the matter at hand would receive a question as a response. Only people with low IQ call queries panic.


1. Common sense told me you are a JW. You attack other Christians for exposing JW while defending the lies and deception of your cult. If you're not a JW, prove that right now by giving us the certificate from the church where you were ordained an evangelist!


2. No true evangelist defends a an organization known for its false doctrines, lies and outright manipulation of scriptures. No true evangelist believes that Jesus came in 1914 and started ruling as a mighty spirit King that year in heaven. No true evangelist believes that Jesus is Angel Michael. No true evangelist believes that there's no hell fire! If you're truly an evangelist, present your ordination certificate. I would verify the certificate myself.



Boomark of Satan, reply me asap as I have many shockers in the oven for you. I hate lying boasters with passion. I'll be your albatross on this platform.

How can any so called evangelist defend an organization that confessed in court that they've been teaching untruths and that they're the only religion in the world that forces falsehood on its members on the pain of spiritual death.

I'm not your regular debater. If you're for truth boomark of Satan, you'll enjoy me. But if you're for lies, I'll deal mercilessly with you.

Present your certificate, respond to my answers and clear yourself to show the world that you're not a liar!

FxMasterz:


Keep your mouth shut. How can a liar be a slayer of lies? You're an attacker of truth. An enemy of righteousness

Now, point out the lies I told from your screenshot. What exactly does your screenshot prove?

The LIAR is Boomark who says JW talks are not scripted. When asked to describe how they do it, he claimed he does not know. The PATHOLOGICAL LIAR is Boomark who lied that he's not a JW, he also lied that he's an evangelist just to deceive people.

Boomark of Satan, the attacker of truth, lover of lies, you have been exposed.

MaxInDHouse:


I know from the onset that you can't easily grasp why all these religionists are saying all sorts of things against Jehovah's Witnesses but now you know.
You are not my brother unless you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

That is why no JW will stand or sit with you for prayer unless you're ready to humble yourself and learn what our God commanded us to keep on doing! John 17:8-9; Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14

Now you know what has been causing the big issue, you may wish to be one of our brothers but that's impossible unless you're ready to abide by the same rules with us! Matthew 12:46-50

May you have PEACE!

achorladey:



He has no jurisdiction to exclude you no doubt

I don't know who gave him such right?

achorladey:


Na to whine am remain. He knows his mode of operation can't work here.

achorladey:


If you like call Boomark your enemy it will not remove B from Boomark of God.

Be careful Boomark has the authority based on ifs to throw you into hellfire

FxMasterz:


You're a lying JW demon. Get out, you shameless and filthy liar!

MaxInDHouse:


I can understand that you're trying to do what you can to resolve issues with those claiming Christians so you can continue doing it if you feel satisfied but let me make something clear to you, you are not my brother rather you're my neighbor only members of Jehovah's Witnesses are my brothers.

As for what Jesus said i know you won't say it applies to nobody so try to figure out those to whom Jesus' statement @ Matthew 24:9 applies, i am 100% convinced that it applies only to one organization of like-minded worshipers and that organization is known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

achorladey:



Boomark of God how are you doing today?

Hope you are still leading by 4 quadrillion points

When is your ifs of a will going to turn up reality about throwing us into hellfire

FxMasterz:


Shut up. Which great lie have I told? You pathological demonic and unrepentant foolish liar.

Boomark of Satan lover of lies, hater of truth. God's judgement would come speedily upon your head to give your the wrath of God for liars in good measure.

Demon possessed JW cultist using all manner of lies and deception to defend his cult. Good judgement shall be hastened upon you if you fail to repent. You filthy demon.

MaxInDHouse:


Another wrong conclusion after reading a post.

Who among the nations will hate Jesus' disciples?

This is where wisdom comes in because if all the peoples hate those Jews Jesus sent out then how are they going to make disciples among peoples of the nations? Matthew 20:19

Of course just as only the religious ones among the Jews hated Jesus with passion and continued going about to instigate others against Jesus and his disciples {Act 13:45} the same will happen to Jesus' disciples everywhere they go. Satan knew very well that under normal conditions 90% of people will welcome the Good News of God's Kingdom so to create confusion he initiated politicians right in the gathering of the first century Christians this ones left the congregation and started another religion in the name of CHRISTIANITY but don't follow the steps of those taking the lead.
That's what gives birth to thousands of different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines today so which one out of these different religions is spoken against by the rest just as Jesus foretold?

The answer is OBVIOUS:

FxMasterz:


You have no shame! A wise person would have held his peace after I showed him that the claim was corroborated by another, and was never debunked by current members.

Foolish satanic evangelist, you who don't know how they do scripting should not be the one telling us that their scripting is not what we thought. How old are you sef? It seems I'm talking to some wayward kid.

Michael547:

Are you saying that you don't know any other person worshipping Jehovah today?

FxMasterz:

In your foolishness, your eyes were blinded to the fact that he's talking what he knows which was corroborated by another former member, and was not denied by any of the current members. Can you see how foolish you are?

3. You went ahead to say it is only fools that will say they are not scripting.

Filthy lying evangelist, can you show me where I said that? Did you go to school at all? Or you cannot understand simple English?


It's a foolish question because that someone wanted to give a new interpretation to what we know scripting to be in the English dictionaries.

The fellow failed to describe his own idea of scripting. He also failed to prove that the JWs were not scripting. A big fool for that matter.

FxMasterz:


If you actually have sense, you'll understand that the person who accused them of scripting was a high ranking member of the organization before he left! You claimed not to be a member but know more about them than a former insider. Filthy lying fellow!

A foolish and useless Evangelist you are! I can't see any Wisdom of God operating in you.

Go and keep your mouth shut! We are not kids here okay? If you don't know what they do, those who are exposing them left them for some of these things they now expose. You join the JW in lying and now start to whine about not being part of them. Is that not your new tactic? You lying evangelist of Satan. If you're of God truly, you would verify the truth and then defend it 100% afterwards. It's only a fool that would defend a group saying they don't script their talks, then after he's asked to describe how they do it, he says he doesn't know and that the askers don't have sense. Very childish and foolish. Now, the demonic JW is claiming to be an evangelist. Evangelist of lies.

MaxInDHouse:


The funny thing about you is that Jesus said all other religionists will hate his true disciples! Matthew 24:9

So for you to keep saying you know Jehovah's Witnesses and not condemning then will make it really difficult for others to know where you belong because to them everyone must hate Jehovah's Witnesses whether a member has offended you in person or not.

MaxInDHouse:


Do these ones preach and teach from house to house as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:11-13
Do they believe that it's UNCHRISTIAN to hold a weapon against other humans even though their lifes are threatened? Matthew 26:52
Do they believe that it's wrong to bear religious titles along with their names in the society? Matthew 23:8-10
Do they believe that all followers of Christ Jesus must judge matters the same way? John 17:22

If they don't then there are many things true Christians {Jehovah's Witnesses} should TEACH them about Jesus Christ and his commandments! Matthew 28:19-20