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Image123:I would like everyone to see how Image123 has been lying against me. He doesn't understand english that's why he is believing a false doctrine. It is obvious the delusion in 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 is against trinitarians as i said sometimes ago. What I said about ChatGPT in the first screenshot: A. It's default program favours trinity. What I was accused of saying in the bolded: B. Prior to my corrections, you erroneously denied ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity. It is obvious that my friend has a problem. How can someone who cannot understand a simple 5 word statement come and be teaching bible? This was the reason I rejected human to humans because they have a very big problem that heaven is aware of. Something I agreed to is what he is accusing me falsely of denying. I will run this on ChatGPT so It also confirm this blunder. I will replace ChatGPT with AppG so It will be neutral. You guys can also see what a trinitarian told me and my position. From the 2nd screenshot
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Round 5 Result Boomark: +10 points Image123: 0 point Points for any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring) Image123: -5 points Boomark: +5 points Final score Boomark: +15points Image123: -5 points Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more. https://youtube.com/shorts/rSY2gkJWmzA?si=7VCnh9tzzT7iG6ge
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Image123:Stop correcting me. Go to the videos and point out any manipulation. I feed it with what all that you and I wrote. Show me where I made that denial in your bolded comment. I want to show people how you lie and talk off point. |
Image123:So stop complaining about it. |
Image123:You don't understand english. That is why you talk out of point and out of context. Mini challenge has buried your wrong belief. I told you before then to do all your best so you don't blame me if you fail. I said that because I knew you have already failed even before we start. I see ahead of all those believing falsehood. Now you have failed and you are here blaming me. Go back and what the AI analysis and see how you failed. Learn from it and stop reading bible out of context. |
Image123 Please always wait for me to post the result of each round before you make a claim. Posting of the results marks the end of the current round and the beginning of a new round. So that everything will be in order. Thank you. |
Boomark:The Mini challenge stands as it remains unopposed. It was a test for ChatGPT neutrality when given specific instructions. It was 50:50. The participants tested the claims in their various phones. The false claim failed in both phones and it will fail in any other person's phone. We cannot permit wayo by removing those instructions which no one disagreed with. The truth stands like a strong tower. |
Image123:You always talk out of point because you are already confused by trinity and no understand the bible. Who doesn't know that the Holy spirit is the spirit of God. You have been deceive because whenever you see God you think it is 3 persons. You don't know who is who. I have learnt that Jesus Christ is Lord? You are now sounding desperate to remain relevant with your trinity.You don't even understand 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 which I use often to destroy your claims. The Holy spirit is the the spirit of God the Father and it belongs to him. Christ also belongs to God. All things came from God the Father. That it why you see ".. of God" man of God, Son of God, Spirit of God, children of God. Continue blaming AI for rejecting your out of point belief. You can't force it to accept falsehood. Even your own AI have rejected you. |
Image123:The only thing I understand is that trinity is a false doctrine. There is nothing to learn from something that is a lie. It obvious you don't know you are talking out of point in that your round 5 rebuttal. You are free to challenge and my main topic again with the mistake you think I made. Let do it what I use to do others. AI is not my wife or brother or father or my relative to be partial to me always even in your own phone. As if it like me so much even in your phone. No. The reason is because you talk out of point and don't even know. It will see all your out of point comment and fail you. There is nothing to learn from something that has failed. |
Rule for the participants Rule 1: The Bible Alone Only the Bible will be used as authority. Each person must prove their claim with scripture. No assuming or borrowing anything from science, commentaries, traditions, creeds, etc. Rule 2: Context Always Verses must be explained in their immediate and full context. Never isolate a verse to prove a point. Rules for you ChatGPT Rule 1: You must strictly analyse and make judgement based on claim and key verses presented only. Rule 2: You must not be partial. Rule 3: You must state who won the challenge. Mr B Question: [John 17:3 NIrV [3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. Revelation 3:12 NIV [12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Question: 1. From the scriptures above, do you believe that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ? Chose option: A. I believe and accept B. I reject] Mr G Answer: [I have told you, the son glorifies the Father and the Father as well glorified the son by giving him a name above every other name! What aspect of this don't you understand? In Authority the Son honors the Father and the Father likewise has made all honor the Son as they honor Him! Your false dichotomy falls short!] MR G CLAIM: [Paste your full message here] MR B CLAIM: I want to say that Mr G (Gabrielshow24) is not a Christian but a heathen. For dodging the question I asked with off point response. Refusing to chose either option which means rejecting Jesus' teaching, and for saying the words of Jesus Christ from both scriptures are false dichotomy. Saying that Jesus was glorifying the Father and the Father was also glorifying the son does not answer the question about what Jesus said. Besides the Father didn't say anything in any of those scriptures. He lied in order to avoid accepting the words of Jesus. He has rejected the only true God and Christ Jesus because he does not continue in the teachings of Christ. cannot be regarded as a Christian but a heathen. Key verses: 2 John 1:9 NIV [9] Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. John 12:48-49 HCSB [48] The one who rejects Me and doesn’t accept My sayings has this as his judge: The word I have spoken will judge him on the last day. [49] For I have not spoken on My own, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a command as to what I should say and what I should speak. Luke 10:16 HCSB [16] Whoever listens to you listens to Me. Whoever rejects you rejects Me. And whoever rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.” John 12:48 HCSB [48] The one who rejects Me and doesn’t accept My sayings has this as his judge: The word I have spoken will judge him on the last day.] ✅ Instructions: Please analyze both claim according to all the rules with respect to the question and answer. On the list below, award +10 point each to who followed the rules and -10 point to who disobeyed the rules. Score based on the following: 1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately? 2. Did either person use scripture out of context? 3. Did either side prove or avoid the point? 4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone? 5. Which claim was closer to the truth based on the question answer? 6. Mention who can be regarded as a heathen. 7. Did Mr G avoid answering the question? 8. Was Mr G answer to the question out of point? 9. Analyze the false dichotomy statement say if it was made against the questioner or the words of Jesus Christ in the scriptures? Oppose my claim and post here. We will insert it in MR G claim and send to Ai for analysis. |
Gabrielshow24:Even heathens will laugh at a virgin birth and the word (speech) of God becoming flesh. You are also in the category of those who say there is no God. I hope know where it is in the bible? They belittle what God can do. |
Image123 Good evening bro Please go to the op and read through. I have add Rule 7 and instructions 6 to enable us not to go astray from our main topic and the purpose of this discussion. I have made some minor updates. Please from tomorrow I might have much time online. So I extend the time limit to 48 hours. This doesn't mean I won't reply within 24 hrs if I'm available. Please bear with me. Thanks Check Round 5. I have posted it already |
Image123:You could not show me the word "Holy spirit" until I gave you NIrV and told you to use it. I saw Holy spirit, I saw the Lord and I saw Jehovah. The Lord I know is Jesus Christ. So now you have seen Jehovah below in NWT. Do you expect me to force you to accept it? That was why we did the mini challenge and the truth shows that it is Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 3:17 NWT 17. Now Jehovah is the Spirit, and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom. See what is written in New World Translation. You are not the only one that have bible to quote from. My job is to show you that you are believing falsehood and I have done that very beautifully. I believe that you have learnt that you are believing falsehood. I used the word of God to prove that the verse you quoted above is a wrong translation. So learn that from me. AI only confirmed that I did a good job. Stop blaming AI for your wrong belief. You failed because Boomark of God destroyed your claim. It is me that did it and I did it with the word of God. You lamentation will not change the fact that you are believing the wrong things. AI does not know who is who. It was neutral and 50:50. You did the test in your own AI and you failed. You also failed woeful my own AI. You are still insisting on something that has failed. If all the people in the world try it in their own AI you will still fail. Know that your trinity doctrine was already buried in Round 1 by my claim and in Round 2 by my rebuttal. Round 2 is where you defined trinity. Round 1 and 2 is our main topic. Every other thing you and I are doing is just presentations that support those rounds. If you want a redo of Round 2 to reflect on your current definition of trinity we can still do it since you all don't have one definition of trinity. You have also failed to defend trinity well in round 4 because you didn't not tell us how the Holy spirit was also call the Raviour and Redeemer. Normally you should have scored 0. You cannot be discussing "twonity" as trinity. This is deceitful. You are deviating from what you defined as trinity. Henceforth your subtopics should reflect what you gave as your Main topic. I will update the instructions and rules these things. It is an error to abandon your main topic which is the reason of our discussion. |
Round 5 Subtopic: Jesus Christ is the servant of God the Father. Claim: Jesus himself in Matthew 12:15-21 confirmed what was written in Isaiah 42:1-4, that he is a servant of God the Father. that masters are greater than their servants. Jesus is subject to God the Father who subjected everything to him. Jesus said his God who is also known as God the Father is greater than him. God the Father is not equal to Jesus Christ his servant. Key verses: Matthew 12:15-18 HCSB [15] When Jesus became aware of this, He withdrew from there. Huge crowds followed Him, and He healed them all. [16] He warned them not to make Him known, [17] so that what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: [18] Here is My Servant whom I have chosen, My beloved in whom My soul delights; I will put My Spirit on Him, and He will proclaim justice to the nations... Isaiah 42:1-4 HCSB [1] “This is My Servant; I strengthen Him, this is My Chosen One; I delight in Him. I have put My Spirit on Him; He will bring justice to the nations. [2] He will not cry out or shout or make His voice heard in the streets. [3] He will not break a bruised reed, and He will not put out a smoldering wick; He will faithfully bring justice. [4] He will not grow weak or be discouraged until He has established justice on earth. The islands will wait for His instruction.” Acts 4:27, 30 HCSB [27] “For, in fact, in this city both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, assembled together against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, [30] while You stretch out Your hand for healing, signs, and wonders to be performed through the name of Your holy Servant Jesus.” 1 Corinthians 15:24, 27-28 HCSB [24] Then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father, when He abolishes all rule and all authority and power. [27] For God has put everything under His feet. But when it says “everything” is put under Him, it is obvious that He who puts everything under Him is the exception. [28] And when everything is subject to Christ, then the Son Himself will also be subject to the One who subjected everything to Him, so that God may be all in all. John 13:16 NIV [16] Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. John 15:20 NIV [20] Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. Matthew 10:24 NIV [24] “The student is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his master. John 14:28 NIV [28] “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. Hebrews 10:5-7 NIV [5] Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; [6] with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. [7] Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’ ” Do you agree Image123? |
Image123 Aaaahh! This round 4. Keenly contested. But you are slowly drifting away from trinity o. Your subtopic didn't reflect anything about trinity. But no problem I will always support your claim as long as if has nothing to do with trinity. Congratulations. Tomorrow we start round 5. At least we have distractions anymore. L |
Round 4 Result Boomark: 0 points Image123: +10 point Image123: 0 points for any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring) Boomark: 0 Final score Boomark: 0 points Image123: +10 points Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC2g4CK4MKE?si=ZuK9qkY7FabC-9k3 Keen contest. Image123 Won
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Image123 I told you earlier that if I win don't think that I'm doing magic. If you look at the analysis you will see that I never made mistake in hitting the target even with fewer bible verses. That's the power of being on the side of truth. You might be wondering what gave me the confidence to do this challenge even after seeing "Holy Spirit" in NIrV translation. When you stand on the truth everything will flow. I have chosen to stand Yahweh the only true God and Christ Jesus alone. Not with any church doctrine, organisation, or Nicea agreement. So now you will stop blaming AI and start focusing on yourself and your belief. I will post result for round 4 soon. |
FreeIgboho:You are lucky you dodged my challenge. I would have emptied your 2000+ year Nicea portfolio. https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/2#136345173 Well this is part of the Nicea portfolio that was dismantled. Their agreement which I disagreed with. Gabrielshow24 will soon collect his own. Let him continue pretending he doesn't know how to read book again after seeing my challenge to him. |
MINI CHALLENGE RESULT This is to prove the AI does not know who is who but it analyse base on how make your claim. If you make a good claim it will tell you. If you make a bad or out of point claim it will tell you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISzp8PQ5gsQ?si=fKmlAXuSx2-2DnU7 Winner: MR B (Boomark) with landslide victory. Image123 please accept the results if it is the same with yours or post a video of your own result.
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Gabrielshow24:Please what should I define for you? Should I define John 17:3 or Revelation 3:12. I wonder how people like this are online teaching people bible. You don't understand what I just posted and told you to read carefully. Is this how you acquired your academic excellence? If you pretend or maybe of a truth that you don't understand anything just to avoid being exposed, I will still go ahead and do my part. |
MINI CHALLENGE 2 Corinthians 3:17 HCSB [17] "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." My claim is that this scripture 2 Corinthians 3:17 is talking about Jesus Christ the Lord and not the Holy spirit. The ones that has Holy spirit are wrong interpretation/translation because it is talking about the Lord and Jesus Christ is the Lord not the Holy spirit. So HSBC translation is good. The Holy spirit was never called Lord. LORD as it was used in the old testament was used to replace the name of God the Father (Yahweh). The God of Abraham as seen in Acts. The Jews knew the the God of their forefathers. Jesus Christ is Lord because God made him Lord. The Holy spirit was not known as Lord because what the disciples and apostles preached to both Jew and Gentile is that Jesus Christ is Lord. They bear witness to the Lord Jesus Christ. The surrounding scriptures in 2 Corinthians 3 and chapter 4 points to the right context that the verse about is talking the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy spirit testified about Jesus and reminded the disciples everything Jesus said which includes that Jesus Christ is Lord. The Jews and Gentiles who turn to the Lord Jesus will have their veil removed. It is not written anywhere that people should turn to the Holy spirit for salvation. Jesus also confirmed and said that he is the Lord by himself. Key verses: 2 Corinthians 3:13-18 HCSB [13] We are not like Moses, who used to put a veil over his face so that the Israelites could not stare at the end of what was fading away, [14] but their minds were closed. For to this day, at the reading of the old covenant, the same veil remains; it is not lifted, because it is set aside only in Christ. [15] Yes, even today when they read Moses’ writings, their hearts are covered with that veil, and they do not understand. [16] But whenever someone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. [17] For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. [18] So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image. 2 Corinthians 4:3-6 NLT [3] If the Good News we preach is hidden behind a veil, it is hidden only from people who are perishing. [4] Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. [5] You see, we don’t go around preaching about ourselves. We preach that Jesus Christ is Lord, and we ourselves are your servants for Jesus’ sake. [6] For God, who said, “Let there be light in the darkness,” has made this light shine in our hearts so we could know the glory of God that is seen in the face of Jesus Christ. Romans 10:9-10, 12-13 NLT [9] If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. [10] For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved. [12] Jew and Gentile are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him. [13] For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” 2 Corinthians 4:3-6 NLT [3] If the Good News we preach is hidden behind a veil, it is hidden only from people who are perishing. [4] Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. [5] You see, we don’t go around preaching about ourselves. We preach that Jesus Christ is Lord, and we ourselves are your servants for Jesus’ sake. [6] For God, who said, “Let there be light in the darkness,” has made this light shine in our hearts so we could know the glory of God that is seen in the face of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:21, 36 NLT [21] But everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. [36] “So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!” 1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT [45] The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. Acts of the Apostles 11:20-21 NLT [20] However, some of the believers who went to Antioch from Cyprus and Cyrene began preaching to the Gentiles about the Lord Jesus. [21] The power of the Lord was with them, and a large number of these Gentiles believed and turned to the Lord. Deuteronomy 6:4 NIV Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Psalm 83:18 NKJV That they may know that You, whose name alone is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth. Psalms 83:18 HCSB [18] May they know that You alone — whose name is Yahweh — are the Most High over all the earth. Acts 3:13 HCSB [13] The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you handed over... John 13:13-14 HCSB [13] You call Me Teacher and Lord. This is well said, for I am. [14] So if I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet. Luke 6:46 HCSB [46] “Why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and don’t do the things I say? Matthew 7:21-22 HCSB [21] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord! ’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name? ’ John 15:26-27 NIV [26] “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me. [27] And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning. John 14:26 NIV [26] But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. |
Don't you see what I feed it in the videos? Did I alter anything you posted? If I start talking off point it will tell me. The same with you. So I feed with our claims. We cannot remove Instructions and boundaries it must no exceed. It's default program favours trinity. So you requesting that we remove topic is indirectly ask it to favour you. It is not my fault if your topic or subtopic is not properly backed by scripture. That reason we are here. To verify the truth using a neutral third party. |
Boomark:Image123 I need this |
Please define your Trinity so I will add it as your main topic. Main topic: my own Vs your own. Please do this now if you see it so I can send our claim and rebuttal. Image123 |
Image123:I will do that now. I wanted to address your concerns first. I don't like the feeling that I'm manipulating th AI. That's why I make the video so everyone will it is transparent. We have equal opportunity to make our subtopics favour us. I will prepare the result now. |
Image123:Sorry my brother. I remembered it but forgot later. Any time you are ready. The time I mentioned won't count. Just take your time and analyse well. It is mini challenge to prove that the AI follows instruction on a neutral bases and to also show the right context and translation of 2 Corinthians 3:17. Image123 |
Gabrielshow24 I want to deal with you with a single blow so you will stop claiming academic champion and stop laughing too much on nairaland and at home. Base on the screenshots, I will "illiterately" prove that you are an agent of the antichrist and every other thing I want to claim according to the rules. If I successfully prove this as an illiterate, you know what it means for your academic qualification. Your job is to defend your response with your academic excellence and prove that you gave a professional answer. Use everything that you know will help you. Read the rules carefully. Give me your own questions like I did in rule 7 and 8. Eg. Was Mr B presentation a false dichotomy? I will make my claim and post here while you also make your and post here. Copy your claim into MR G CLAIM and my own into MR N CLAIM ask AI to analyse it. No cheating. 50:50. I will make video of the result and post here. You must make your own video and post or you agree with my own video. Everybody is free to test the challenge in their own ChatGPT. If you are not afraid of me take this challenge. This below with the claims is what you you will copy into ChatGPT. Rule for the participants Rule 1: The Bible Alone Only the Bible will be used as authority. Each person must prove their claim with scripture. No assuming or borrowing anything from science, commentaries, traditions, creeds, etc. Rule 2: Context Always Verses must be explained in their immediate and full context. Never isolate a verse to prove a point. Rules for you ChatGPT Rule 1: You must strictly analyse and make judgement based on claim and key verses presented only. Rule 2: You must not be partial. Rule 3: You must state who won the challenge. Mr B Question: [John 17:3 NIrV [3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. Revelation 3:12 NIV [12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Question: 1. From the scriptures above, do you believe that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ?] Mr G Answer: [I have told you, the son glorifies the Father and the Father as well glorified the son by giving him a name above every other name! What aspect of this don't you understand? In Authority the Son honors the Father and the Father likewise has made all honor the Son as they honor Him! Your false dichotomy falls short!] MR G CLAIM: [Paste your full message here] MR B CLAIM: [Paste their full message here] ✅ Instructions: Please analyze both claim according to all the rules with respect to the question and answer. On the list below, award +10 point each to who followed the rules and -10 point to who disobeyed the rules. Score based on the following: 1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately? 2. Did either person use scripture out of context? 3. Did either side prove or avoid the point? 4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone? 5. Which claim was closer to the truth based on the question answer? 6. Mention who can be regarded as working for the antichrist. 7. Did Mr G avoid answering the question? 8. Was Mr G answer to the question out of point?
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Gabrielshow24:So after saying all the your academic standard, you could not understand what you are required to do. You went ahead to start talking off point. Or you type all these english words to avoid what you should do or speak english but don't understand english. But don't worry I have something special for you. Let image handle that one. |
DeepSight:He is already afraid |
FreeIgboho:Stop asking me questions. The ones I asked you 2000 years ago ago you have not answered it. See it in the link below and answer it. https://www.nairaland.com/8456831/why-jesus-definitely-god/60#136324300 Answer it and accept the challenge. Stop telling us what other people know when you don't know anything by yourself. See more reply in the screenshot.
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FreeIgboho:See your challenge here so understand that 2000+ year means nothing or 2000+ years of believing a lie. Do your best o so you won't be shamed with empty 2000 years portfolio. https://www.nairaland.com/8484151/bible-challenge-prove-trinity-falsehood/3#136334085 |
You are now sounding desperate to remain relevant with your trinity.