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Julia25:I gave him a version of trinity because you people have different versions. My work is to destroy whatever definition anybody give to it. |
Julia25:The green is twisted. Go back to where you got what I wrote. I said, in the beginning, the word of God is his spoken word which he used to create everything. The word of God became Jesus when the word was made flesh (When angel Gabriel told Joseph that the child will be called Jesus). This is where you and I can now say Jesus is the word of God. And the reason you are saying, all things where created by Jesus (by the word of God) Follow things the way I say it. The black bolded is correct. The automatically... you added is your own personal assumption. I don't know what it means. I only dodge people who twist my words. See what you wrote in the screenshot. I don't know where I wrote such a thing. So use my exact word because they are usually borrowing from scripture not theology. Reduce the way you use theological words and focus on how things are written in the scripture. "divine nature (Godhead) is given to God head" I never said anything like this. That was why it is difficult for you to point out. Don't be like your colleague that was asking us "who is godliness?"
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Julia25:Please all these things you wrote here are out of point. I don't even understand if you are telling me what you believe or what. So I want you to mark where I said this thing in this screenshot. Mark it as marked your own. I want to be sure you will not continue twisting my words.
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Ken4Christ:You are saying that to God who raised Jesus from the dead. You are saying that to the Holy spirit who inspired those scriptures. You are saying that to Jesus Christ who told us the truth he recieved from God. Over 30 scriptures pointing at the same thing is what you call "mahyohpic." The spirit of the antichrist is the one pushing you people to insult God and reject his word. |
Truthseeker10:The delusion God sent on those who have refused to believe the Truth is at work on them. I showed one of them some scriptures about what Jesus said concerning the Father (the Father is his God, the Father is greater). He called these scriptures kindergarten scriptures. He used that as a way of rejecting the words of Jesus Christ. They don't know what they are doing. And they will be the first to claim they are relying on the Holy spirit for interpretation. They will beg you to define trinity for them. After disturbing me for so long, I told on of them him it is 666. Case closed and still didn't define the trinity he was defending. They tell lies a lot to support themselves where necessary. They won't want you to use AI so they can easily twist your words and insist on a lie they told. This is what Julia is doing already. |
Julia25:I don't have anything to answer you or anyone that lies. Make screenshot where I said exactly what you wrote. |
Ken4Christ:Please quote all my comment, ie the scripture and questions. Under each of the question, write correct answer by ken: then state what you think is the correct answer according to the scriptures I quoted already. |
DeepSight:You can add they are to also be worshipped as God too for her. This is a very big problem and they don't know they have such problem. |
Julia25:Why do you people enjoy telling and believing lies? Or is it that you people don't understand how to use english? Where did you see me say, "the divine nature is... given to the God head?" You are flowing with falsehood and not what I said. Cool down say exactly what I said. I don't want another headache please. Max asked where you got what you said, you quoted me and still didn't point out where you saw exactly what you wrote. This was why I chose AI because human beings will be talking out of point without even knowing it. And you went further to insist it was what I wrote.
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FxMasterz:Someone who is led by the Holy spirit don't ask "Who is godliness?" It is only people who don't know anything that ask such questions. Pastors that became pastors with man-made certificate are entitled to possess such mistakes. You don't understand simple english. Tomorrow you will come and still ask those who God called or are doing the will of God for their certificate. Making mistakes upon mistakes. https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/5#136445322 The spirit that is ministering to you is not from heaven. I have already revealed the spirit to you and your trinitarian brothers. |
Trinity Is gone. No one is equal to his maker. You all should return to God the Father. That was the purpose of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. To reconcile us back to God. Jesus is the way to God. Go and read Romans I:19-23. You don't honour God as God. https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/7#136538674 You reject the words of Jesus. You reject what God has done. Trinity Is prepared by satan and the antichrist against God the Father. They don't want him to recieve all the glory that belongs to him. Julia25 this answered all your questions. |
Trinity Is gone. No one is equal to his maker. You all should return to God the Father. That was the purpose of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. To reconcile us back to God. Jesus is the way to God. Go and read Romans I:19-23. You don't honour God as God. https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/7#136538674 You reject the words of Jesus. You reject what God has done. Trinity Is prepared by satan and the antichrist against God the Father. They don't want him to recieve all the glory that belongs to him. Dtruthspeaker, Chibuezem, Gabrielshow24 FreeIgboho this answered the questions you asked me. |
Round 11 Subtopic: God the Father made Jesus a God. The prophecy Isaiah 9:6-7 LSB [6] For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. [7] There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of Yahweh of hosts will accomplish this. It was the will of God the Father to make Jesus Christ a mighty God. Verse 7 says: “The zeal of Yahweh of hosts will accomplish this.” That “Yahweh of hosts” is the God of Abraham. Colossians 1:19 says that it God's own decision to have his divine nature dwell in Christ. He who made Jesus a God was never equal to the one he made. God the Father is the maker of Gods. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob who glorified Jesus (Acts 3:13) is still the same God who spoke through the prophets (Isaiah in Isaiah 9:6-7) and now speaks through Jesus (Hebrew 1:1-2). He is Yahweh, the Ancient of days. It was he who glorified the son of man (Jesus). The Son of man receives dominion, glory, and kingdom — proving He did not possess it inherently but was given it (Daniel 7:13-14). The God of Israel, the God of their forefathers is one God not three persons (Deuteronomy 6:4). He is the Father and one God over all. Jesus is called a “God” in the sense of being appointed, anointed, and empowered to carry out God's will and judge the whole world— not that he is God Almighty Himself or co-equal to him. Jesus’ divine functions and titles (life, judgment) were given by the Father — not self-originated (John 5:26-27, Acts 2:36, Philippians 2:9–11). Just as God called human judges “gods” when He gave them authority to judge (Exodus 7:1; Psalm 82:6; John 10:34–36), in the same manner, the Father has appointed Jesus to be called a God so he can judge the whole world. The Father is the maker of Gods. He also made Moses a God to Pharaoh. That's why he is called the God of Gods. Even when called “God,” Jesus still has a God over Him (Hebrews 1:9; Revelation 3:12). God is a spirit and the Holy spirit which is also known as the Spirit of God is a spirit but not God himself. In the same manner, the spoken word of God which was later made flesh, was God, but not the same as God the Father himself. Both the Holy spirit and the word are "of God" because they belong to God and do the will of God Almighty. God created the world by his spoken word or through his spoken word (Psalm 33:6,9, Genesis 1:3). So when this God's spoken word was made flesh and became Jesus Christ, anyone can say, the world was made by Jesus (by the spoken word of God). So God created all things through his word (which later became Jesus). Angels always see the face of God (Matthew 18:10) but only started seeing Jesus when he was made flesh (1 Timothy 3:16). So the one God of the Israelites is the Father alone not Jesus or 3 persons. The Father, who is One God over all (1 Corinthians 8:4-6), the God of our Lord Jesus, the Ancient of days, the only true God, the God of Gods, is the one that made Jesus Christ a God (divine being). The Father is greater than all. Key verses: Isaiah 9:6-7 LSB [6] For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. [7] There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of Yahweh of hosts will accomplish this. Colossians 1:19 GNT [19] For it was by God's own decision that the Son has in himself the full nature of God. Deuteronomy 6:4 LSB [4] “Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one! 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 ”.... We know that “there is only one God.” [5] There may be so-called gods either in heaven or on earth. In fact, there are many “gods” and many “lords.” [6] But for us there is only one God. He is the Father. All things came from him, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord. He is Jesus Christ. All things came because of him, and we live because of him. Psalm 33:6, 9 LSB [6] By the word of Yahweh the heavens were made, And by the breath of His mouth all their host. [9] For He spoke, and it was; He commanded, and it stood. Genesis 1:3 LSB [3] Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. Matthew 18:10 HCSB [10] “See that you don’t look down on one of these little ones, because I tell you that in heaven their angels continually view the face of My Father in heaven. 1 Corinthians 3:23 HCSB [23] and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God. John 1:14 LSB [14] And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. 1 Timothy 3:16 HCSB [16] And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory. Revelation 3:12 HCSB [12] The victor: I will make him a pillar in the sanctuary of My God, and he will never go out again. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God — the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God — and My new name. John 17:3 HCSB [3] This is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true God, and the One You have sent — Jesus Christ. Psalms 136:2 HCSB [2] Give thanks to the God of gods. His love is eternal. Hebrews 1:8-9 HCSB [8] but to the Son: Your throne, God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice. [9] You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; this is why God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of joy rather than Your companions. Acts 3:13 LSB [13] The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release Him. Hebrews 1:1-2 NIrV [1] In the past, God spoke to our people through the prophets. He spoke at many times. He spoke in different ways. [2] But in these last days, he has spoken to us through his Son. He is the one whom God appointed to receive all things. God also made everything through him. Psalm 83:18 LSB [18] That they may know that You alone—Your name is Yahweh— Are the Most High over all the earth. Daniel 7:9, 13-14 LSB [9] I kept looking Until thrones were set up, And the Ancient of Days was seated; His clothing was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with fire, Its wheels were a burning fire. [13] I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And came near before Him. [14] “And to Him was given dominion, Glory, and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations, and men of every tongue Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not be taken away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed. John 5:26-27 LSB [26] For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; [27] and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man. Acts of the Apostles 2:36 NLT [36] “So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah! Acts of the Apostles 2:36 NLT [36] “So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!” Exodus 7:1 NKJV [1] So the Lord said to Moses: “See, I have made you as God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet. Psalms 82:6 AMP [6] I said, “You are gods; Indeed, all of you are sons of the Most High. John 10:34-36 RSV [34] Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, you are gods’? [35] If he called them gods to whom the word of God came (and scripture cannot be broken), [36] do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? Do you agree Image123? |
Julia25:I understood your questions. In the beginning, the word of God is his speech. It was not Jesus. Genesis 1:3 NIV [3] And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. "Let there be lights" is word. His word created light because he didn't use machine to create it. The world was created by his word. You people became confused when his word was made flesh and was known as Jesus. Those who know the truth and the source of everything won't be confused by this below. The world was created by Jesus (his word) This is why trinitarians don't want me to rest. They refused to accept the source while holding unto the surface. The other questions will be answered in my last claim tonight or tomorrow morning in the trinity challenge thread. I don't know where you got the bolded. It is too early to start making mistakes. |
Ken4Christ Don't beat around the bush. Choose from the options below. Jesus is called a Mighty God according to Isaiah 9:6. So answer these questions happily. You have right to choose any of the options "to believe" and "not to believe." John 12:49-50 NKJV [49] For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. [50] And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.” 1. Do you believe Jesus as a Mighty God said, that he speaks whatever the Father commands him to say? A. Yes I believe B. No I don't believe him Hebrews 5:7 NKJV [7] who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, 2. Do you believe that when Jesus is a Mighty God, his cries and tears meant he knew it was only God the Father who was able to save him from death? A. Yes I believe B. No I don't Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” 3. Do you believe that it was God the Father that raised him (Mighty God) from the dead? A. Yes I believe B. No I don't If you refuse to choose any of the options, we know that it is the shame of rejecting Christ and God openly that made it so. The antichrist doesn't want to be exposed. It uses subtle means such as quoting scriptures out of context or using false accusations to dodge questions and scripture. |
Ken4Christ:You are now the one beating around the bush. Which dishonest strategy. I gave you options to accept or reject. The title Alpha and Omega didn't raise Jesus from the dead. If Jesus deity is your problem don't worry, I will include it for you. You never see anything yet. |
gohf:He started by telling me not to beat around the bush. I responded with by choosing from the options he gave. Now he beating around the bush and refusing to chose any option. |
Image123:Let me explain what she said to you since you guys enjoy falsehood. We are using ChatGPT. Anyone saying AI is used in the 80's the way we use it today in apps is a liar. I will regard that as talking out of point. ChatGPT will not say "The Father (Yahweh) has a God" and refuse to say who or mention the name the God of Yahweh. So It is much more better than some lyinq human beings. According to you people's core philosophy, If God is called the Eternal Father then he must have Eternal Boomark. Since I am in his image and likeness. And for the fact that I came from him, I must have been somewhere with him from eternity. This is the example of the nonsense you people are teaching as doctrine. The assumption given to you people by the antichrist. |
Hello Julia25 Please move your posts to the discussion session in the link below. I removed them anytime from 5pm today. Copy/Quote what you replied to there along with your response. https://www.nairaland.com/8484151/bible-challenge-prove-trinity-falsehood#136238868 Please try and attach scriptures to whatever you are saying. I don't respond to philosophy of men. You should go to Round 2 and see rebuttal to trinity definition before you comment. Thank you. |
Janosky:FxMasterz will also be shouting you don't rely on the Holy spirit but look at someone claiming to rely on the spirit for interpretation don't even know that "Godliness' is not a human being. He was asking, "who is godliness?' what a shame. He said the words of Jesus are kindergarten scriptures. Now God has thrown him down below the level of kindergarten children. This is someone that calls himself a pastor but doesn't understand simple english. This is how they believe and teach falsehood as doctrine. Doctrine from the antichrist because they have refused to believe the truth. God now compounded their problem with delusion. That's why they don't understand simple english. What a great shame. |
gohf:Their problem is not ordinary. The hand of satan, antichrist, and delusion God cast on those who refuse to believe the truth is at work in them. |
gohf:Please who measured the one that fullness of God and the one that is incomplete fullness of God? Let them answer this. |
Image123:You didn't answer anything. Don't use Almajiri school system to answer it. Make is clear if you are not afraid. Say something like This "person (put name)" is the God of the Father. |
Image123:Yes I knowingly removed them for they are very useless to the my subtopic and very out of point to the discussion. You are supposed to raise a rebuttal to my subtopic with scriptures and not discussing my previous subtopics and how they look alike. I don't even know if it is Almajiri school that you attended? You oppose having a topic before discussion. You don't know what is good or bad to have in a discussion. Everything that is out of point is welcomed by you. Do you want to claim point with it? You can copy it to your next claim/rebuttal and I will add it. You don't know anything. You people teach falsehood. Who do you think you want to deceive by saying the Father is God. See what you should be saying 1. The Father is One God over all (1 Corinthians 8:4-6) 2. The Father is the only true God (John 17:3) 3. The One God is the God of Jesus Christ (Rev 3:12) 4. This One God is Yahweh the God of Gods (Deuteronomy 10:17) 5. This One God is the One God of Israelite (Deuteronomy 6:4) You are so scared to call him one God but you are here distorting that word of God and spreading falsehood that One God is 3 distinct persons. I can freely say that Jesus is a God and that he has a God he serves. But you cannot say the Father is One God over all including Jesus Christ. Satan would rather tell you to twist One God as 3 persons. See how you make statement to confuse people. You say, God is said to possess eternal power and Godhead. Which God is this? Quote the scripture and tell us who that passage is talking about. I am telling you now that it out of point and out of context. AI only confirmed my powerful rebuttal that you are talking out of point and quoting bible out of Context because it's like everywhere you see "God" you assume it is Jesus Christ. I would have loved to discuss this with you but I can't. I reject and bind. You dodged question like tomorrow no dey. As if you have an ulterior motive against the Father. You have refused to tell us who is God to the Father for many days now. A claim you made and now afraid to defend. I can't waste my time with you people. |
Image123 I will be making my last claim. It will unite with my round 1 claim and destroy everything you are believing in. I hope you are still searching for who is God to God the Father? Brave yourself like a man and answer that question. One blunder that only satan and the antichrist can make a man to commit. That's what trinity stands for. Opposition to the only true God. I will not relent. I will use your negative response and blow trumpet. Unless you humble yourself and ask God for forgiveness openly. Colossians 1:19-22 GNT [19] For it was by God's own decision that the Son has in himself the full nature of God. [20] Through the Son, then, God decided to bring the whole universe back to himself. God made peace through his Son's blood on the cross and so brought back to himself all things, both on earth and in heaven. [21] At one time you were far away from God and were his enemies because of the evil things you did and thought. [22] But now, by means of the physical death of his Son, God has made you his friends, in order to bring you, holy, pure, and faultless, into his presence. Jesus is the way to God. The mediator between man and God. There is a reason for that. But satan and the spirit of the antichrist still wants people to be far from God. God wants everybody back to himself but enemy doesn't want it. They don't want you to be his friends. They are only interested in distorting the truth about what Jesus did. They don't want you to honour the one God who is the Father as one God. Let's see how you are going to oppose God the Father in my next claim as you have been doing. I am always standing on the the words of my Lord Jesus Christ and that why you support most of my claims and use out of point rebuttal to complete the rest. |
Boomark:Ken4Christ answer these questions |
Ken4Christ:If you have the Holy spirit you shouldn't have been ignorant of this scripture unless you are only filled with the spirit of the antichrist. Romans 1:19-22 GNT [19] God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain. [20] Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all! [21] They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. [22] They say they are wise, but they are fools; Even those who don't have God are claiming the Holy spirit. Their dark mind filled with nonsense don't know that God has made everything about himself plain to all. Both to the carnal mind and spirit filled. The carnal mind have no excuse at all. All those saying they need the Holy spirit for bible interpretation do not understand english. Example is FxMasterz who accused me of not relying on the Holy spirit for interpretation but was busy asking "who is Godliness?" As if Godliness is a being. What a great shame. This is someone who calls himself a pastor. He will soon ask "who is fig tree?" When he was asking me for my spiritual father and certificate to preach was when I knew he was empty and only loyal to men instead of God. He doesn't know anything. Now back to you ken and trinitarians, you all have been deceived by the spirit of antichrist. You have all refused to continue with the teaching of Christ so you don't have God and you don't have the Holy spirit. This statement in the screenshot is a show of shame from people who don't know God and his words. This Romans 1:19 was not on my mind. It was readily available for all those on the side of truth to see and to use it as a reply to those believing falsehood. Those who have refused to believe the truth will read it 10 times and will not still see anything. God made everything plain. Trinity Is falsehood from satan and the antichrist to blind people from knowing the only true God.
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