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Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 12:19pm On Mar 16, 2021
hoopernikao:


I thought your lack of not reading properly and in context is only affected from your study of the scriptures, i never knew, even normal conversation you cant read in context. I hope this is not how you read letters when they are written to you.

Dont be too fast to jump into a conclusion, read through thread, post that were made along the discussions.

Kobojunkie says only the word of Jesus in the bible is valid at least for NT, that other instructions there (NT) arent expect directly commanded by Jesus, He says that the practices in epistles arent valid because they are words of men but not of God. Does that sound as scriptures to you.

If Epistles are words of men as said by Kobojunkie, because they are spoken and written by men, the words of Jesus he is reading was it dropped from heaven. Was it not men's instrument that God used to give us the same scriptures?

You no dey read properly at all grin and i have told you its affecting you.

The inspired scriptures (by the Holyghost), was put down by men used of God to do the same. Selecting part and refusing others is denying the inspiration of books together. Men are used by the Holyghost, let that ring well in your ears.

2 Timothy 3:10But thou hast fully known my doctrine...

That is a man, hence his doctrine becomes a scripture because the inspiration behind those words was the Holyghost. Hence, men are the vessels.
Its only someone who lacks honor for what and who God used that will neglect men who wrote the scriptures and then he will spite the scriptures.

I hope you get this well now.


Bro you quoted this out of context. With this anybody can open a church and teach whatever they want.

English Standard Version
You, however, have followed my teaching, my conduct, my aim in life, my faith, my patience, my love, my steadfastness,

Berean Study Bible
You, however, have observed my teaching, my conduct, my purpose, my faith, my patience, my love, my perseverance,

Berean Literal Bible
But you have closely followed my teaching, conduct, purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance,

King James Bible
But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,


A teacher can ask his students, "have you been following my teaching or what am teaching?" His teachings/doctrines is not his own invention but the commandments of Christ.

Even things said by satan, Jezebel, Herod, Pharisees, etc are written in the scripture. You don't do the things they have said or did. Paul is free to give his own personal advice out of experience. The commandments of Christ supercedes all.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 5:43pm On Mar 15, 2021
hoopernikao:


I pointed it out to you that the scriptures in your hand that you read, the very word of Jesus you read are documented by man. They are man's doctrine Sir. God used man to speak to you. Get that right. The commanded of Jesus you speak about, was it not given to you by man?

Secondly. You said you obey and trust Jesus commandment.

Is Mathew 28:19 not Jesus commandment again.

So,

1. Are you making disciples in obedience to His words?
2. How are you making disciples without gathering with such?

Bro you are very wrong here. Those who gather people to teach them the doctrines of men have no regard for Christ. We will assume that maybe you don't know the difference between doctrines of men and commandment of Christ.

Matthew 15:8-9
King James Version
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


Commandments of men=doctrines of men.

The heart of such worshippers is focused on man made doctrines. That is why they rush to defend their church or pastor forgetting that it is Christ above all. They will stand against a Lazarus of today and throw away what Christ taught in Luke 16:19-31. In their heart, they feel they are doing the right thing but they are far from Christ.

If you must gather people you must not be selfish.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 9:24pm On Mar 13, 2021
soulpeppersoup:


What were your activity like during the period you were waiting on God?

If you were praying, God would be unrighteous not to have spoken to you or He doesn't exist.

I was in the challenger squad (prayer group) and evangelism group. After that original post with some people criticising me, I went back again to fulfill all righteousness and see if they can do the right thing. This was when they dribbled me like Messi. I patiently waited for months before finally leaving them.

God is not unrighteous. I have had some experience to prove to he was with me. He used all that happened to show me that I was looking for spiritual growth in the wrong place. Men are the unrighteous ones.

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Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 8:29pm On Mar 13, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Not just some but all of them practice doctrines and traditions/commandments of men, that Jesus Christ warned against. The lies have become a sort of addiction, a sort of mind control even, that they run forward to protect their "dealer" when anyone tries to speak/attack with the truth of God.

To find Jesus Christ's own church, you need to go ask Jesus Christ Himself because He is the only one that knows who His followers are.

I can tell you that since I was born and even to this day, I have not seen the LIGHT of JESUS CHRIST shining from any corner of the earth that I have visited so far. And I have looked for it too. That made me think that instead, I should be the one to do as Jesus Christ commands so the LiGht of Jesus Christ can shine through me for others to see and know that Jesus Christ is real. .

My hope is that you will do the very same too.

I have this same mindset even before I joined them. If I had been a follower of men when all these happened, I would have thrown away the sour soup and the pot. But I know Christ is not like men of this world.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 8:22am On Mar 13, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are barking up the wrong church. The Church described by Jesus Christ in His teachings is not the same church of men you have in this world today. Two different churches with different driving principles. undecided

Jesus Christ's church, His body, is not a physical gathering of people - He alone knows those who belong in His Church. His Church is driven by the teachings of Jesus Christ and the doing on the work required for the Kingdom of Heaven. undecided

The churches of this world, however, are businesses and they are concerned with one thing their survival. They are driven by their bottom line and the glory that their kingdoms here on earth receive. undecided

So, trying to push Jesus Christ's rules on the churches of this world is not going to get you anywhere.

My brother it is sad o. Just like the analogy I tried to bring up using the case of the rich man and Lazarus, some of them practice things that are contrary to Christ teachings and feel they are right.

One thing I also observed here about church followers is that they are ready to stand on a lie to defend their church or pastor. They think Christ will reward people who lie for his sake. They don't know that when he said all liars in Rev 21:8, there will be nothing like partiality.

It is tiring to even try to make them see the truth because they are plenty have plenty supporters. Let them continue doing as it pleases them.

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Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:51pm On Mar 12, 2021
donnie:
Church money goes straight to headquarters. Another thing, the pastors are more concerned with meeting their targets and being in the good books of their superiors

Christianity as whole doesn't deal, relate with or reach out to the community or the children of Israel but with those who follow their particular religion or denomination. undecided

Bro read this very well. This is what Christians are charged to do. This is what Christianity is all about and the centre of it. Nobody will tell you this. Christianity is not about meeting money target. Anybody is free to answer a Christian and whatever they are practicing cannot be used to define Christianity

Galatians 2:9-10
New King James Version
9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They desired ONLY that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:33pm On Mar 12, 2021
Truvel:
Let Me Be Frank With U, U May See Dia Actions As Lack Of Love & Kindness But Dey Were Conciously Or Unconciously Telling U 2 Be A Man Of Urself & Not 2 Depend On Anyone. So Build Urself By Ensuring Dat U Engage Urself In One Job Or The Other.

Let me be frank with you. You may see the action of the RICH MAN as lack of love and kindness but he was consciously or unconsciously telling LAZARUS to be a man and not depend on anyone. Read Luke 16:19-31 and see that you all are not different from the RICH MAN.

What is remaining is to consciously or unconsciously say that Christ was wrong in teaching this. And also say, is it his (Lazarus') money?

Christ actually know His people. Not all that call him Lord, Lord are His. Signs and wonders does not qualify anyone. Mt 7:21.

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Politics / Re: Media Framing: Wakili Is Fulani Warlord But Igboho Is An Activist - Nwabufo by Boomark(m): 11:56am On Mar 12, 2021
MENELIIK:


Igbo people dont have se*se at all

Tears everywhere on our matter. The indispensable and generous Igbos have free buckets for all cry cry babies that would not mind their business and be on their own.

Get blanket from Iyabasira and wipe your face whenever you are through. But I feel this tears might go on forever. Sorry.

#Tearsforever
Politics / Re: Media Framing: Wakili Is Fulani Warlord But Igboho Is An Activist - Nwabufo by Boomark(m): 10:12pm On Mar 11, 2021
MENELIIK:


Igbo people dont have se*se at all

You are free to shed tears about it. We the indispensable and generous Igbos have free buckets for those who wish to donate their tears because of what we want.

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Politics / Re: Media Framing: Wakili Is Fulani Warlord But Igboho Is An Activist - Nwabufo by Boomark(m): 12:56pm On Mar 11, 2021
CodeTemplar:
You mean NK kills people? Never knew before o.

He said something about outdated sense.

Look for a better one that will help you know he only asked a question instead of displaying the same thing he just mentioned.

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Politics / Re: Nnamdi Kanu Quotes The Nigerian Law That Gives Him The Right To Seek Biafra by Boomark(m): 12:11am On Feb 22, 2021
favor914:
Sure you even know more than Zeus. You & your father are the ones that drafted the constitution?

Sorry o, it is not my fault that your father didn't take part in drafting the constitution.

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Politics / Re: Nnamdi Kanu Quotes The Nigerian Law That Gives Him The Right To Seek Biafra by Boomark(m): 4:46pm On Feb 21, 2021
oluwatunechi:


note the word "SHALL" was used in this context not "WILL" SHALL is used for conveying request questions or offers

so it would have made more sense if the word WILL was used instead

I. the STATE SHALL recognize the RIGHT
II. the STATE WILL recognize the RIGHT


Until that part of the constitution is amended, the state has no right to go against any right (to self-determination) recognised by the law.

Your 'shall' and 'will' lecture is useless here. You people should stop disgracing yourselves because of envy. The state is fighting lawful IPOB.

The state don't even know the law. Someone super intelligent is teaching them.

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Politics / Re: Why We Need To Support Eastern Security Network by Boomark(m): 9:42am On Feb 21, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
We the people of Nigeria, home and abroad need to come together to support Eastern security network.

How can we support them.

1. By reporting all activities of Eastern security network to the government of Nigeria.
2. Report their Facebook page, telegram and WhatsApp groups where they spend their day planning on how to cause havoc in Nigeria.
3. By not allowing them to join any market union.
4. If you know an ipob or Eastern security network Personnel that has a business in the morning but a terrorist in the night, boycott those businesses and spend your money in law abiding igbo citizens.
5. Stop giving Nnamdi kanu your money to fund his lifestyle.

Only government can't do this job, the people of Nigeria need to come together to stop divisive methods by some groups to make Nigeria lawlesss.

We have been giving this kind of support to IPOB but they upgraded to powerful ESN. I don't know why our lamentation is not working? I think we should support them with buckets of tears to stop them finally. Call a meeting as soon as possible so we can contribute tears. 'Harmmatime' is already drying some precious tears.

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Politics / Re: Our Eastern Brothers Should Please Correct This by Boomark(m): 5:48pm On Jan 31, 2021
knowledgeable:


Even Buhari as a problem, was created by them out of the example you just narrated.

My brother, all because of selfish interest that will favour mostly the politians and their families. Most of them are suffering it today.

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Politics / Re: Our Eastern Brothers Should Please Correct This by Boomark(m): 12:13am On Jan 31, 2021
Uche352:
good day all..this is the first thread I'm creating on this site and lately I've observed something very funny between easterners and westerners,we all want the same thing but that pride and ego is what we put in front of us first without facing what we actually want and we keep on playing mind games the truth is we won't achieve anything meaningful in all of this now back to the main issue of this thread..

I'm a proud easterner and I'm also in support of the old eastern regions quest for self determination...it's a fact that MNK has predicted exactly what has been happening to us in Nigeria today with regards to the issue of herdsmen but there's this funny thing some of us easterners do is we want to gloat to say we weret saying it and the rest of Nigerians were ignoring our messages.. truth is people have died and there's is nothing to pride in the death of innocent people ..we might say alot of bad things have happened to us as a people but it is not the reason why we should rub the short comings of other people on there faces and honestly this is the reason for the ego fight Everytime..I read about a thread where hoodlums attacked a community in the south west and suddenly someone starts mentioning the ESN and I was thinking was has the ESN has to do with this?..this is not an opportunity to feel like ESN is better than amotekun in fact to be sincere the formation of amotekun made it easier for MNK to form the ESN it made the federal government lack the moral ground of questioning the formation of ESN..so please let's call a spade a spade what is good for the goose is good for the gander..we easterners knew how painful it is to us so please let's not rub it on the faces of other people MNK at the moment who is supposed to pride in all of these is not even doing so but he's busy trying to free other ethnic nationalities trapped in Nigeria..we have passed a message and I believe all Nigerians have understood the message we were trying to pass and this is the time to work together and speak against evil and not time to pride in the pains and agony of one another and also to my Western brothers I also want to let you all know that some people took it as a job to cause tribal war on here ..if MNK is not taking pride in what is happening please know that majority of the easterners are not also and please disregard anyone doing so and I also want you all to know that easterners are praying for biafra and oduduwa nation's at this trying times..an injury to one is an injury to all..let's speak with one voice..let love lead..

My brother for most of them their hearts are evil and full of envy.

We Igbos were busy giving our voice against those that did lekki shooting but when Obigbo killing started you see them rejoicing and dancing owambe. To hide their 'overjoyous' mood that innocent Igbos are being killed, they said it is IPOB that is being killed. Non of them can identify an IPOB member anywhere.

They don't know that those who wish evil for other people are indirectly attracting evil to themselves.

Why people rub their nonsense on their faces is because of the insults we received when we were telling them the consequences of the wrong things they are doing. They felt they have more sense and shouldn't be advised by Igbos. In everything we know it is envy that is driving them.

Igbo don't rejoice when people are being killed or persecuted. Even if it is done against Hausa people we shout more than the bereaved.

Igbo amaka forever.

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Politics / Re: Nigerians Are Evil by Boomark(m): 4:28pm On Dec 14, 2020
You mean Yoruba and Hausa people. The one shouting sai Baba few days ago changed his mind after they kidnapped his brothers. Not only evil but also selfish.

Most hausas were happy when boko haram started because they were killing Christians and bombing churches. Now they are now the ones being slaughtered anyhow.

They don't know that when they praise evil deeds they attract it to themselves. Law of attraction.

The bitterness and envy in the life of some Yoruba people is bigger than 500kg garri bag. When they see anything that has to do with Igbos their mood changes immediately. Sometimes I wonder if they are suffering from extreme inferiority complex or what. Their hatred is enormous.

Igbo condemn any kind of killing anywhere. Igbos all joined in condemning the killing of Yorubas at lekki toll gate shooting but when they heard that Igbos are being killed in Obigbo, they were so happy and overjoyed. They hide under the guise of condemning unarmed IPOB members to express their happiness

This is why nothing works in Nigeria. If you wish good to everyone good, good things will come to you if not you will remain in bitterness forever.

This is an advice, let those that have ear hear.

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Religion / Re: Qualification For Heaven by Boomark(m): 9:29am On Nov 29, 2020
Being born again is itself will not take anyone to heaven. It is like induction into a group of people from where those who qualified will be selected from. Once inducted, you can now go on to do the things that will qualify you for heaven.

Matthew 7:21-23
New Living Translation
True Disciples

21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’


If you do these things or sleep in the church from morning till night, it will not make you qualified for kingdom of God. If you like give all the tithe you want in the church. That things were working for those in the above scripture does not mean they are approved of God or qualified.

This is what will make you qualified for the kingdom of God on the judgment day.

Matthew 25:31-46

31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the [c]holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’


37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Look at people around you suffering. They are everywhere.

Galatians 2:9-10
New Living Translation
9 In fact, James, Peter,[a] and John, who were known as pillars of the church, recognized the gift God had given me, and they accepted Barnabas and me as their co-workers. They encouraged us to keep preaching to the Gentiles, while they continued their work with the Jews. 10 Their only suggestion was that we keep on helping the poor, which I have always been eager to do.

James 2:5
Listen to me, dear brothers and sisters. Hasn’t God chosen the poor in this world to be rich in faith? Aren’t they the ones who will inherit the Kingdom he promised to those who love him?


2Co 9:9
9As it is written:
“He has dispersed abroad,
He has given to the poor;
His righteousness endures forever.”


Identify with them. In addition to being blessed on earth, De 15:9-11, you will be quantified.

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Politics / Re: 2023: Vote Us Out If You’re Tired Of Our Faces, Lawan Tells Nigerians by Boomark(m): 4:33pm On Nov 20, 2020
Someone should tell them that the jumbo pay is why we don't like their faces. New faces will also become currupt with jumbo pay.

#Scrapthesenate

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TV/Movies / Re: Dr. Chinyere Ohiri: Willie Willie 1980s Horror Film Actor by Boomark(m): 10:21pm On Sep 18, 2020
if they come take light for night that day, to go get lamp and matches na war.

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Religion / Re: Daddyfreeze response To Pst Paul Enenche:I Will Continue Criticizing Pastors by Boomark(m): 5:58am On Sep 15, 2020
Nice one

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Religion / Re: When A Pastor Is Talking Trash In Church, What Do You Do? by Boomark(m): 3:08pm On Sep 10, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I believe you have the wrong Jesus Christ. You see, Jesus Christ never told you that Pastors are His messengers, and He certainly never told you to give money to His Church. That is not what He said.

Who are His apostles as far as Jesus is concerned? Every single one of His followers is an apostle as each submits to be lead/send out to accomplish the will of God as far as spreading His teaching and His Gospel. There are no special people separated by Jesus Christ for this.
As far as His Church is concerned, it comprises all those who belong to Him(His followers), and only He has authority over them. No man has any authority where Jesus Christ's followers are concerned.
Becareful that you are not deceived by spirits pretending to be from God. For one thing, the Spirit of God will never do is lie... He is the Spirit of Truth and will never send you a message that stands in contradiction to that which Jesus Christ Himself said.
My guess is by the "church" you refer to, the buildings built by men who claim to be of God. God has called on no man to build any churches for Him here on earth and He has certainly not called His followers to give money to the goals of ordinary men. These churches are government-licensed businesses that operate on the whims of those who own them, and as stated in Jeremiah 17, only God knows what is in the hearts of men.
Jesus Never said anything about giving to churches or synagogues. He called on His followers to give directly to those who He has commanded them to, and that would be to neighbors (including enemies). His words are specific about what He wants from us. So trying to introduce another angle does not work because nothing is hidden about what is meant.

Read the verses below and learn what Jesus says you should do, as far as giving to Him. Read it and see for yourself How Jesus Christ wants you to give to Him -- giving that will earn you a place in His Kingdom in the end.

He wants for you to give to the poor for by doing so, you do it to Him. He did not tell you to give it to a church or pastor somewhere. For you see, there is no mystery as far as what Jesus Christ commands us to do. The problem is why do we have a hard time obeying his exact words? Why do we instead chose to obey the words of ordinary men which run contrary to what Jesus Christ stipulated?

I castigate them because they do not speak the truth of Jesus Christ at all. If you pay attention, I also point out what it is they do wrong, pretending to do so in the name of Jesus Christ.

Well done bro.

With the way some of them defend things that are wrong, I wonder if they go to church to serve man or God. Wrong doctrines everywhere and they can't even make use of the bible they have or be patient to learn the truth and accept it.
Religion / Re: When A Pastor Is Talking Trash In Church, What Do You Do? by Boomark(m): 3:00pm On Sep 10, 2020
Nephilim:
hahaha this is hilarious!! Lmao. I see where you're problem is coming from, the bolded right? So every pastors in the world doesn't speak the truth of God abi? You better repent before you let that hatred send you to hell lolz


You never knew how to actually give to Jesus Christ. You were making blind presentation. And when he finally showed you how Christ said we should give to him in Matthew 25 vs 31-40, you started laughing like what I have in my mind which I won't write. Clearly, because you have made up your mind to be disobedient and ignore the teachings of Christ, and stand with what your Pastors teach you.

Someone said he can't stand lies and those who don't teach the truth and you tag it hatred. Are you the one that will send him to hell? He has already shown you how to get your ticket to the kingdom of God. The judgement in Matthew 25 vs 31-44. Miss it and you know where the angels will dump you.

The Pastors that have turned everything to their self gain, despite their miracles, casting out demons in his name, and thinking they are winning souls for Christ, will also get their reward as it is written in Mt 7:21-23... depart from me... They're in church always and you are not. They can't save themselves and they will not save you.

Obedience to God is better than sacrifice.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 1:01pm On Jul 26, 2020
Truvel:
Alright, It's Ur Choice.

Bro the things you are likely going to tell me I know. I just want to know what people have to say about this questions about the teachings of Christ that everybody is running away from.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 12:55pm On Jul 26, 2020
JourneytoEL:
many went through worse in the body of Christ, some were even raped as kids by clergymen. There are weeds in every farm, so it is also in the church. Their work is to distract and frustrate you like their master who comes to steal, kill and destroy. It is our duty to stand firm, put your focus on Jesus and your goal and ensure we don't become tools of the enemy like the other pastors.

Thanks a lot dear.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 2:48pm On Jul 25, 2020
Truvel:
Bookmark, Asking Alot Of Questions Is Not D Issue D Issue Is Asking D Right Questions. What Do U See Urself Doing In D Dream, Perhaps With People Or 2 People? I Av A Reason 4 Asking U Dis.

Are the questions I asked wrong? From something Christ taught? Those are the answers I need. Many who go to church are running away from it because they know they are really selfish.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:19am On Jul 25, 2020
Truvel:
Bookmark, What Do U See Urself Doing In D Dream? It May Give U Clue Of God's Plan 4 Ur Life.

Bro please can you answer the question I asked you up there. I have asked a lot of questions and never get answers.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:11am On Jul 25, 2020
JourneytoEL:
Haven't you heard that gold passes through a furnace before getting purified? Young man, why are you failing your test?. It took Joseph 12yrs of prison time after his dream before he finally became a prime minister. Jacob had to labor for more than 14yrs before setting out on his own, what of Abraham? Even Jesus had to fast for 40 days and nights before starting his earthly ministry. What am I saying? Every genuine Man of God today passed through a very tough time in their life. God uses tough times to groom you into your call. Being a minister isn't about wearing fine suits, driving a good car and going to the best bible school. You need to develop a personal relationship with God.You need to pray so hard that you can hear his voice clearly and differentiate from other voices. Can you ask a beggar for business advice? so why sharing your challenge with lukewarm christians. Go and find out how successful ministers started out. David Ibiyomie once said he and his wife were so poor when he left his job to answer his call that they slept on Mats and drank garri continuously, same with Oyedepo, Idahosa, Joyce Meyer. Do you think it was easy for Paul Enenche to leave his profession as a medical doctor and answer his call. Kenneth Hagin was bedridden for about 4yrs waiting for death when he built his faith. The list is endless. Go to NDA and see the kind of tough trainings cadet pass through to become Nigerian soldiers than imagine yourself that has been called to be a spiritual soldier battling powers and principalities. Between a businessman or a gambler, who's more likely to use a million naira better if they win it? Between an ajepako(street broughtup) and butter(posh kid) who is more likely to survive in a war torn country? God is only making you rugged for the journey ahead. What you are passing through is not your pastor's fault or that of the church, it is only God's way of training you. And, it is sad you are failing. This is just the beginning sef. A time will reach when friends and family will join and laugh at you. You'll even question your sanity. So stop complaining and put on the garment of faith, prayers and praises. He is a covenant keeping God. If he has promised to use you, so he will. I will advise you to do the following:
- Stay away from every known sin including lying and unforgiveness.
- Delete worldly songs from your phone and replace with Godly songs and messages. You can download Apostle Selman's message on Protocol of an encounter for a start. and as many messages on Holy Spirit, ministry, developing your prayer life etc.
-Look for something doing to fend for yourself unless directed otherwise. But, bring out quality 3hrs daily best at night strictly for worship, praises and prayer. Use this time to also read the Word of God with your personal jotter and pen highlighter in hand.
- Read, read and read Christian literature. If you don't have money to buy download as many available online. You can start with Kenneth Hagin, Smith Wigglesworth, John Lake etc.
- It seems you are single, making it even better. Take out time to do vigils in very quiet places like wilderness. Pray to God that you want to hear his voice. Be careful, however to avoid attracting demonic voices. Read on how to differentiate voices before doing this.
- Evangelise as led, nairaland, whatsapp, fb, ig, YouTube or on the streets.
- sow seeds to ministries that inspire you, give alot to the poor and make sacrifices in both time and money. In all ensure your intentions are pure. Never seek to be a powerful minister because of cars and jets.
Been a minister is serious business. There is a time to sow and a time to reap.Now is your time to sow, please sow good seeds to reap a bountiful harvest. The worst thing any man can do is to disobey his call. God loves you and will never forsake you. He wants you to groom yourself into an instrument he can use. Don't be silly to think God resurrected your thread for nothing. Your time is ticking. best of luck.

Thanks a for advice.

But none of these pastors where put in such state by those that call themselves men of God. Something like apostle Paul or Peter being used for putting someone down to a low state.

I can't do such a thing to anybody and still have the guts to preach Christ even when am being reminded of it. Not to talk of those that call themselves pastors. That shows the kind of heart they have.

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Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:01am On Jul 25, 2020
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What I understand from what you wrote is that you need a job

Shikena

Go get yourself a job.

Not white collar ooo or blue collar ooo

Start somewhere

Sugbo?

Thanks for your advice.

Biko try and acquire knowledge or sense. Anyone that is easily accessible to you. It will help make the world a better place.

Inugo?

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Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 9:57am On Jul 25, 2020
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Nothing to point out

It’s a stupid story.

Blaming people for your failure

Blame woman

Blame resident pastor

Blame church

Christianity Is not stupidity!!!

Engage your brain

Even Bishop said recently that he refused the prophecy of a pastor who said God told him to go to Bishop for a seed, because God did not tell him (Bishop) so.


You — WHAT DID GOD TELL YOU?

Follow follow Christian

I knew right from the first word of your comment that you know nothing at all except insults. The type that go to church every day and come back empty. Even this morning when you came to my mind, I was like the only thing you can say is anything insulting and nothing meaningful.

I knew you can't point out anything and that was why I didn't ask you. Let those that can figure out something do the job. Remember I asked you if you didn't understand what I wrote because I have dealt with a lot of people like you and they give same result. So I know your type very well.

I have already learnt to reject every lie from your bishops and pastors and follow the truth in the word of God. Nothing good comes out of them. Thanks for reminding me.

I will not reply you if you don't have anything meaningful to say.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 9:27am On Jul 25, 2020
timisquare82:
My brother i understand what you are passing through now I was once in this kind of condition so many pastors and prophets told me that i have the calling of God and that I can never secure a job with my bsc certificate unless I surrender myself to their ministries so that can train me to become a prophet some even gave me some palliatives. But i chose not to be deceived , to the Glory of God the father today am gainfully employed with that same certificate, got married, bought car, and building my house. Bros does it mean am not serving God? Even now that am gainfully employed? Wake up bro! don't be deceived and allow anybody to write the journey of your tomorrow for you.

Thanks a lot bro for your encouragement. They make things look as if the call Christ gave to all who believe in him as priests is null and void. If you don't answer a special call that you know nothing about you will suffer in the hands of God. Thank God for you and where you are now.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:55pm On Jul 24, 2020
NoBones:
Your story does not add up.......

Please point it out.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:38pm On Jul 24, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I will be honest with you here. These churches are businesses and are not really set up in such as way as to help those in need. so you are probably better off Finding God Himself than continuing to seek the help of these people in the way you have stated. Find God so He can help resolve your situation. Leave these world-churches to God as God is not blind to all that is done in His name.

Thanks a lot bro. It has always been God and I. It is just that whenever one wants to join them in gathering (of brethren) they become willing tools in the hands of the devil.

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