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Politics / Re: 2017/2018 Youwin Beneficiaries Protest Unpaid Grants At Finance Ministry by Boomark(m): 5:31pm On Jul 31
Paulotool:


SO WHAT DID SHE PROMISE ON HER VIDEO ON YOUTUBE?

I ALSO WATCH HER PROMISE FUNDING ON NTA. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS BUHARI REGIME? WHY DO MANY LIES?

The promise start during the sensitisation program. They told us we will get up to N10 million to start our businesses and that was the reason I applied in the first place. All my efforts will not be in vain. They better look for money to fund our businesses. We cannot accept this deciet.
Business / Re: YouWiN Beneficiaries Protest Unpaid Grants @Finance Ministry (Pics) by Boomark(m): 4:51pm On Jul 31
frog12:
Why should buhari pay for jonathan's wasteful experiment okonjo spent 60 millioin dollars on this project, and buhari has spent less on N-power, benefitting almost a million nigerians. they should transfer them to n-power immediately

Someone like you wouldn't mind working as a cleaner in any mamaput restaurant instead of employing people. We are entrepreneurs and not on the same level with you.
Politics / Re: 2017/2018 Youwin Beneficiaries Protest Unpaid Grants At Finance Ministry by Boomark(m): 4:10pm On Jul 30
We cannot be taken for a ride. Telling us you didn't promise funding is unacceptable. What then did we win as Youwinconnect winners?
Politics / Re: 2017/2018 Youwin Beneficiaries Protest Unpaid Grants At Finance Ministry by Boomark(m): 3:07pm On Jul 30
It is very wrong to treat Nigerian youths like this. Must they protest before this government does the right thing?

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Business / Re: Football (+Other Sports) Betting Season 12 by Boomark(m): 11:55am On Jun 02
TissuePaper:
wink wink

Bros. Please check your mail
Business / Re: Youwin Vs Youwinconnect: Why Agricultural Sector Is Developing by Boomark(m): 7:11pm On May 17
MANNABBQGRILLS:
Good

Well done bro. I can see you are already doing great in the food industry. More power to your elbow.

If you get Youwinconnect grant, super powers will be added to your elbow. We are still waiting for them for a while now.
Business / Youwin Vs Youwinconnect: Why Agricultural Sector Is Developing by Boomark(m): 4:51pm On May 17
Many people don't know that agricultural development does not take place in a twinkle of an eye. It takes time, processes, and encouragement of people to get involved.

In 2011, Youwin was established to assist and encourage Nigerian youth who want to go into business. Agriculture was the main focus and a lot of rice farmers/millers, poultry farmers, cassaver farmers, pig farmers, goat farmers, tree, food, and cash crop farmers, agro processing companies, etc, started their businesses with funds they got from Youwin. They were given fuii grants upto N10million to start their businesses and for more than 3 years they were funded and supported to develop the agric sector. It was a big relief for the Nigerian youth who have nursed the ambition of starting their own businesses. Food stuff were becoming cheaper because we had them in abundance. Waste were also reduced drastically because the processing companies are there.

Tony Elumelu Entrepreneurship Program, TEEP, established in 2010 was equally giving grants to Nigerian youth to start their businesses. They focused mainly on agriculture too and that sector was gradually booming.

In 2016 BOI/Yes-p was established to assist unemployed youth with loan to start their businesses. We did a powerful online training for 3 months and our moral was very high to take over from Dangote as soon as we get the money. For reasons best known to them, BOI decided to demoralize and frustrated most us out of the program because we could not provide two guarantors who have netwoth of upto N10million each. Even those who manage to get guarantors are still being frustrated till today. Those of them that rented land, equipment, and shops did not use them for anything until they expired. Their delay tactics is shocking. They don't know that time is money. The frustration made me think of looking for a job and never think of anything youth entrepreneurship program again. The program failed to progress when people became aware they are not serious.

Those who think CBN or BOI loan has helped in developing agricultural sector should have a rethink. You can't get their money. Those who managed to get it are very few. If you doubt me go and try your luck.

Youwinconnect came and I was happy. I was happy because I know what Youwin does for Nigeria youth and I wasn't expecting anything less. We did online training and winners were selected. We also did face to face master class training and that was when our heart started melting. They did not clearly tell us on how much we are going to be funded. The N2.5billion equity fund they say is available will go the 5000 winners N500,000 each to start their businesses. We want to open industries not shops. I believe this will not be the case.

Since 2015 till date, apart from TEEP, there is no successful entrepreneurship program for the youth and Youwinconnect is the last hope. I just hope the President, Vice president, and the minister of finance will do something for Youwinconnect winners. Something better than what Youwin did for the youth. Youwinconnect will drive agriculture and other sectors of the economy to the next level if we get funding.
Religion / Re: Is It Compulsory To Go To Church Before Prayers Answered? by Boomark(m): 11:55am On Apr 15
NO!

After reading through to this point, non of the persons above me quoted Jn 4:20-24. Worship(Prayer) in spirit and in truth can be done anywhere.

John 4:20-24
20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship.”
21 Jesus said to her,“Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem(Temple or Church), worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

This is direct from Christ Jesus.

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Politics / Re: "YouWin CONNECT Program Disappointed Us" - Participants Cry Out (Photos) by Boomark(m): 11:28am On Mar 15
Yes-p was a failures
Youwin....
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by Boomark(m): 2:49pm On Mar 04
MuttleyLaff:
Yes! Not need for it, we now digital
You see how, without it, its caught on Freeze?

How many years after that your Onitsha Mall stunt sef too? grin grin grin grin grin grin
No make am wait 4 years before you do the real thing ooo grin grin grin grin grin grin
and no "ajibu" before then too
"ajibu" loosely meaning "no milk sampling"

Gombs, this guy gave you a beautiful answer here.

Freeze, after 3 to 4 years does not need tracts to ask the unanswerable questions about tithe.

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Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 12:21pm On Feb 24
Emmanystone:

It's obvious you don't understand what Table the Lord is talking about.

Abeg go find work do.


lipsrsealed

Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 3:15am On Feb 24
Emmanystone:

He needed Salvation first before anything. It's obvious from his story that he needs your help. The pastor failed him, now help him. Afterall na human being you be just like pastor.

Wow! I thought someone just said I be lier super. Make I close mouth before they pounce on me again.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 2:49am On Feb 24
Emmanystone:

I just sesned that you are a big lair. You know folks hate Ouedepo and Winners Chapel, you need to beg money from people, but to get their sympathy, you need to malign a Church. When they help you today with money, you'd keep coming back.
Stop being lazy, get up and work.

the bible says,A lazy man should not be given food.

Ah! bro Emma. The Lord been preparing a table before me the presence of my enemies for more than 5 months. Bro am so much loved. I hope no one use my name beg you food?
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 2:27am On Feb 24
Chai! I regret going back to church. It will never happen again.

All that happened here is not what I never expected. The lies, the twisting, turning blind eye, speaking out of context, name calling were all expected.

Argument with people here have end o. Gave myself yesterday to talk as I want.

Its been more than 5 months and am still alive. Thanks to all of you.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:53pm On Feb 23
akeensbussy:
the only mistake u made was not asking the pastor what going to WOFBI got to do with the help you need.

you to understand that WOFBI is not a bible school but an indoctrinating school. that is why a pastor in redeemed can not automatically become a pastor in winners without been sent to WOFBI for indoctrination before he or she can qualify to be a pastor in winners. vice vicer

Bro I made no mistake. I understand what WOFBI was suppose to do. The agreement that made me spend all I have without getting welfare is where they wrong me.

If he had told me there won't be any welfare to support myself I could have postponed WOFBI and do it some other time.

Is it not wickedness for you to allow somebody spend all he has and later tell him you are not giving him anything while you had agreement with him?
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 10:10pm On Feb 23
JesusSonOfGod:



My friend, you need faith when you need anything from God. There's no faith, you went for WOFBI program just to please the Pastors so they will help you. Like someone stated, you needed help from man and you got man's help.

If you actually need help from God, you need to humble yourself, trust Him with all your heart. Your trust on man won't help you and you actually came on this platform to complain not because you want to really condemn the church but because you still believe someone will help you on this forum. You think you will draw sympathy from people (Probably Freeze followers) by condeming the church. You either trust God or trust man.

I pray you get healed, but I still think you need Jesus in your life. Give your life to Christ bro. You can't intimidate God for Him to do things your way. It's either God's way or you continue waiting for a God hater on Nairaland that will tell you to send your account info after casting the church with you. I also don't think being rude will help you either. Jesus loves you.

So people go to WOFBI to please pastors? Will the pastors smile for them or give them food? Are you saying that it is only Daddy freeze's followers that can help people while pastors followers cannot? I see.

Keep your prayers to yourself bro. You need it more so that you can read and understand. It will also help you to stop imagining things out of context when you read.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 9:48pm On Feb 23
Johncuppa:

There is an arrogant spirit even in your writing.
And your motive for joining WOFBI was wrong and never a display of faith.
Is WOFBI now the reason for your predicament?
I pray God heals you but the way you are responding to people even God will be persuaded to do so.

I don't understand, did living faith suppose to take care of your living and health?

By saying this I got to know that you did not understand. WOFBI itself is the not my problem. What cause my problem is the agreement I had with the pastor which he failed to fulfil. I wrote this in the op but it seems people do not want to see it.

God knows about me very well. There was a time those that want to do me anyhow see anyhow. Those that knew of it will never trouble me. Wasn't going to church then for God was all I have. I gave even when I don't have enough as far as am better than the person. Now I said let me not forsake the gathering of the brethren and they pushed me away with this. It broke my heart because I cannot do such a thing to any man even if the person is not a christian. Maybe that was why I had heart attack.

Even if all the christians here did not help me...I will live on. I won't die. My response to some people is because I no longer understand how christians behave these day. If christ should tell them that he had heart issues and they did not help him. They start asking 'when?'

Bro it is not arrogance. I confidently know that most people here are wrong with their approach. Some of them are just here to defend 'winners chapel.' whatever happens to the needy(the body of christ) they don't care. They are all wrong. I will live to do that great good that has been eluding me all these while for the least of his brothers. It is already settled in heaven.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 8:23pm On Feb 23
HigherEd:

I know you spent money while attending the program. But are you saying you haven't paid money for the WOFBI program itself because pastor waived the fees for you?


Bro I did WOFBI on scholarship. I never had any plan to join WOFBI. It was my story that took me to church on tuesday and I started WOFBI on wednesday.

The money I spent during WOFBI is what I could have used to find something doing. After WOFBI, I cannot transport myself to church again and feeding became difficult. That was when they abandoned me.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 8:09pm On Feb 23
UnchangeableGod:
First of all, God calls us to repentance leading to salvation. After we have answered that call, He calls us to discipleship. He then calls us into the ministry. It is not another person that will tell you that you are called. It is the Caller Himself. Have you answered the first call to escape from the wrath to come?

Bro we didn't go to WOFBI to shew gum. I don't need to quote what Paul told us to do for brothers in need. I need help can you help me?

Christ did not ask unbelievers that kind of question you are asking me before he helped them not to talk of his own person. Learn to live like christ that is why we are called christians, it is not by lip service irritation name calling abi answering.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 7:34pm On Feb 23
GoodMuyis:


The pastor did not deceive you, his expectations on getting welfare for may not go as expected thats why he could help. Yourself say that he had being transferred to another church. Amd this might make it difficult for him to assist.

His action not to contact you maybe as a result of feeling guilty of not being able to help.

Am sorry to hear condition, God will help you out

The resident pastor is still in the church and he is the one I did most of the discussion with.

I don't have the heart to ignored anyone assuming am the cause of their or might have misled them. I will certainly call the person even if I don't have the money to assist.

Some christians would rather defend the pastors, continue blaming me for nothing than help me.

How do you think God will help me out?
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 7:21pm On Feb 23
HigherEd:
How much did you pay for the WOFBI course?



I don't actually see any deception here Sir

[quoteI]I told him I have little money with me since am no longer working and that I will need welfare to support myself if I should join the program. He asked when I joined the church and I told him. So he said I should go on and join the program, and also meet my homecell leader concerning the welfare.[/quote]

It is deceit when I was ignored and abandoned after spending the little I have while attending the program.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 6:48pm On Feb 23
Johncuppa:
I don't understand, did living faith suppose to take care of your living and health?
Yes, they can do it but not their responsibility.
The fact that they absorbed you and asked you to join WOFBI does not been they are responsible for your living.
I'm exactly in your shoe and met a lot of folks that are in the same issue - we are told we have calls but we are not UNDERSTANDING it. Most of us left our job for the training and hoping to get a better job or receive divine direction to God's will during or after the program but we never expected living faith to be responsible for our living.


Please read with understanding first before you comment. Did you not see where I told him that I will need welfare before joining WOFBI and he agreed?
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 6:44pm On Feb 23
LLSAINT:
My Dear OP. From your write up, you were looking up to men for help and guess what, you got what you deserved. Second, God does not call a jobless man. Be not deceived. No where in the scripture you would find a jobless man called by God. The solution is for you to re-direct your steps and trust only In God and not men or their ministries.

Yes I really got what I deserve for going to seek advice from a winners chapel pastor and going to church. Now I know nothing good can come out of them. God is the defender of those being defrauded.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 6:40pm On Feb 23
mabea:
He only advised you to attend WOFBI first knowing well that your life would be transformed through that platform. I didnt see any promise from what you typed there. The best thing is to seek God. Pray and ask him for your healing

Bro go and read my post well. Jehovah's witnesses reject blood transfusion. They pray to God to heal them but you will castigate them for sticking with prayer.

Tell me you don't go to hospital or buy drugs.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 9:37am On Feb 23
bedspread:
No body deceived u.... u deceived yourself...

You are looking into man for Help!! Which is an Error

How? Please explain from what I wrote.

I will only say that I deceived myself going back to church but I won't conclude yet until after this period. I have been at peace with myself and God all the years I have not been going to church.

But if you cannot explain how I deceived myself truthfully, don't worry. For now am only seeking help for my heart condition.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 9:25am On Feb 23
mabea:
I feel sorry for all your troubles but it's not right to join a church just for what you will get. Even if you have a call from God, do you actually need someone else to tell you? He will tell you personally.


Moreover you went seeking for man instead of God. I wonder how they deceived you by asking you to attend WOFBI.

Bro Check the dates in my post. I was working when I joined them in june. I don't desire anything from any church that's why I stayed away for years in peace only for this to happen soon after joining.

How I was deceived is still in my post based on the agreement I had with pastor before I joined WOFBI.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 9:14am On Feb 23
bloodofthelamb:
Bro, always remember to look to only Jesus Christ, the LORD that provides.

I always tell those around me that I am not your helper, the Lord Jesus is. Though he might use me or anyone else to help and provide for you.

That still did not make me your helper.

Of course bro. God has been using man to help man.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 8:43am On Feb 23
Bethor:
@OP, same story line, God would do this or that for you...better get up and go and look for job to do and take care of yourself and forget all these fantasy of God calling you before you end up dead..it's all and had been a scam from the beginning....!!
Peace..!!!

That was my plan...to search for something to do when I get the welfare. It never came and I have exhausted the little I have attending the church program.

Use to go out and search but coming back without anything is usually frustrating considering the little I have and the high transport fare.
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 8:14am On Feb 23
Shedrack777:
feel so sorry bro, they might have deceive or abandoned you, but God will lift you up and send a helper for you in Jesus Name. Amen!

Amen
Religion / Re: How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 8:13am On Feb 23
terrezo2002:
I pray you get help, but first look unto God to heal you and not on money to treat yourself. God knows how best you will be healed, it may be you have to go to the hospital or not. I also believe the church will help you if you go back to them concerning your case. Meet your pastor again.
Now your attitude seems to be wrong. You said they deceived you. You don't abuse your helpers. The spirit will not allow the help to get to you. Go back and ask for their forgiveness and ask for help. Explain to them your condition. I am sure you will get help this time around.

Bro I tried to reach them but was ignored, maybe because I don't have money. The cell leader has never called me since then to at least know how am doing since he knew my condition. We are just very few for him to forget me. This is more than 5 months since then and am not expecting anything from them.

I have stopped going to church and this is the second time after Assemblies of God. I told God in my prayers that I will not go. I don't want to be thinking of any pastor this way during sermon..."this man can deceive or can be heartless when someone is in need." I gave them enough time to be sure am not making a mistake and that it was actually a deceit.
Religion / How I Was Deceived At Winners Chapel And Had A Heart Attack by Boomark(m): 6:40am On Feb 23
I decided to join winner chapel around June 2017 after staying away from church for so long. And in the month of july I resigned from work due to some issues I had there. There was a day I attended a crusade in my area, and a woman called me aside and asked me what I do for a living. I told her I don't have any job. She said ok, that she got a message that am to become an evangelist. One of the female ministers from the crusade also told me the same thing that night, that I have a call. I began to wonder why God have not reveal anything to me if it is true. Some years ago, someone from the catholic church told me that am to become a reverend father and I rejected that. I believe that all Christians are 'called' by God.

I went to winners chapel Osisioma, the Aba headquarter and met the then assistant resident pastor for him to guide me on what to do concerning the message I received during the crusade. I told him everything and some of my personal life experience. He encouraged to join WOFBI(word of faith bible institute), a 2 week bible study program and to also speak to the resident pastor. I met the resident pastor and told him my story. He urged me to join WOFBI first. I told him I have little money with me since am no longer working and that I will need welfare to support myself if I should join the program. He asked when I joined the church and I told him. So he said I should go on and join the program, and also meet my homecell leader concerning the welfare.

The heart attack
At the end of the program, I went to the resident pastor and told him that I have not received any divine direction. He told me to continue praying and also meet the homecell leader again concerning the welfare. I met the cell leader and he assured he is working on it. Days amount to weeks and I became frustrated. He kept on telling me that he will do something about it. My neighbours were the ones helping me sometimes with food. I could not believe what happened to me. I sent message to the then resident pastor(he was transferred to another church at the end of the program in August 2017) whom I first met and narrated what am passing through and my poor health condition, he never replied me nor called me. A pastor told me later that I must be paying my tithe and have been a member for upto 6 months to benefit from the welfare program. If they had told me this in the beginning I wouldn't have joined the WOFBI program. I would have known how to manage myself with the little I had then. So while I was still wondering what happened to me I had a heart attack. I prayed that God should not let the heart problem to kill me. Since then till now I still feel pressure in my heart area and have not been able to go to hospital because I don't have the money.

I was hoping that one day I will get money to treat myself. I never wanted to bring this here but I notice some sharp pain in my heart that woke me up early this morning while lying on my stomach. Out of fear I had to write this here. My brothers and sisters please I need help to treat myself.
Religion / Re: Who Are Those That Peddle The Word Of God For Profit ? by Boomark(m): 8:04am On Nov 26, 2017
truthislight:


@Boomark

How far? Long time no see.

My brother I dey o. Good to see you. How your side?

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