There is no going back. We want to succeed in this program we have given our time, energy, and money.

deebsman1:
I have told you the brazen truth above. If you want grant,search and apply for 1 (thats even if u can meet the tough conditions and rigorous processes) but if its loan you are looking for,you should braze up your mind that you will provide something

I applied for grant, my application was accepted but I was told later that it is for only existing businesses. A way of start-ups cannot even start anything.Youwin is for both existing and start-up businesses. Before you finish the whole truth you know, know also that you cannot be advising someone that needs N5million to start his business to go for a N1million grant. You don't know how the shoe pinch the person wearing it.

deebsman1:
By there ways you shall know them
If you want someone that you don't know to give you money and you can't find someone you've known a long time to guarantee you, then you are not loan Worthy

Ok we heard. Some people are even collecting grants and you are here preaching loan worthiness. Anyway we are not going to allow our fate to be left in the hands Of third party after we have put in so much in this program. Thank you for your concern, Bye.

Sportize:


Pls I need to be reminded wat d exact nature of dis course is cos am one of the agitators from d previous thread dat even led to creating this one, u can see from my previous posts nd am nw am turned d enemy because I stated reality nd honesty and that is, for Boi to soften d term attached with guarantors for it to make finding one easy... Why is that bad? Why does d op want Boi to scrap the guarantors totally even when they were told about guarantors during d in class training. Even d FG will not look into such a case nd am sorry it's a dead road if u think a bank will jst wave off its mode of operation 4 ur sake... Forget it... Soften d term for guarantors is d key here but all I see is a bunch blind men trying to lead other blind men

# sportize is officially out... Lemme know wen guarantors are removed for u lot

You are free to leave. We will seek ways to harmonize and better what we are asking for. With the presidency, it will be a heart to heart talk because Baba is there.

jpphilips:



Organise yourselves in protest, I want to read the update of your protest not this c0ck and bull story.
If it was politicians, youths like you will swarm behind them.
Jobless Nigerian youths have the number to make a change yet they are all at home waiting for celestial feeding bottle.

Bro its one step at a time.

John902:
does it matter who was there in 2014 or who came in 2015,u asked for presidency and it was given to u knowing fully well that you are not capable... imagine Donald Trump blaming Obama for America's involving in battlefield on the Aleppo city.Nigerians we r dullard God come bless us with another Dullard as president. shits

It does, base on their present predicament. I no follow for those you are referring to as dullards.

tsdarkside:


when 2014??..

early,middle or late..

it doesnt realy matter..fact remains..

jonathan was in charge throughout 2014....

we had elections in 2015 remember??..

even prosponed ones till nearly middle of 2015...

you ipobians have weak arguments...

Please try and get sense biko. I was just patiently waiting to see if you will get the gist but you didn't.

Let me help you. Assume that someone's generator starts giving him problem this year, this is what he will tell you: since 2014 I have been using this generator I have not experienced such. Such= 2016 generator problem.

I hope you don't abuse those that help you even if the person is IPOB?

Jethrolite:
Did you see me replying anybody? Those who are slow but think they are fast are here trying to tell me I am saying what I do not know. I went as far as calling the regional manager of South East for BOI yesterday to tell him my predicament with getting guarantors and told him every other requirement was in place. All he did was to encourage me not to give up as I had come a long way.

All these people on top are talking like accepted business plan means you will get the loan.

My sources are Mr. Oghomi and Mr. Obaro. If you are truly a participant in the South South and South East, you must know them. Go to the whatsapp group created by graddev, the place is deserted. I can not put 2 of my loved ones in distress because of greed to collect loan.

This is one of the worst times to start a business in Nigeria especially with a loan. As for those who are saying we are making stories up, ride on and I wish you the best. Eventually, you will come to the stage where those of us who have thoroughly done their assignments are. Do not prepare your guarantors and let me see how BOI will disburse loans to you. As a matter of fact, I want to see that person that is conscious of what they are signing and actually become your guarantor. I just need to see 10 startups who actually got the loan from the 1200 of us who made it and I will agree I did not put in enough effort.

My moral dropped immediately I saw the guarantor form. Some of us lost hope during the in-class training because they know what it is to get someone to guarantee a loan at this point in time. This program is target at the unemployed graduates. Those who have rich relatives or guarantors can as well get a job through them. This program should benefit those it is meant for, not the rich getting richer because they are privileged to have people stand-in for them.

Adeiza5522:
pls bro I don't mean to discredit ur post. it seems u never took time to read through the terms and conditions. I wanted to apply initial, when I saw those conditions, I opted out. it was even two guarantors worth 10m before. there is change for u ooo. never give in towards your dream

Around which month of the year did you try to make your application? That will determine if its cohort 1 or 2.

You opted out because the program is discouraging. This is why we want Mr President to give us a good intervention program. We want him to support us so we can also support him.

shift15:
Your experience just confirmed that BOI are doing well and have learnt from past mistakes.
Remember the Jonathan YOUWIN programme, many that collected the money used it for something different from the business.
If you are genuine and real, you will look for those that around you that believe in you and they will stand as your guarantor.
5M is not 500M nor 50M, rather than complain on NL, go to work and get those that stand for you and get rich following your dream.

May I tell you, more than 90% of those that tell you they can't get guarantor may have gotten guarantors, don't be a loser.

Rented agent spotted! How much were you paid?

How did you know that everybody in this life have at least 2 people that will guarantee them a 5 million loan?

How did you know that 90% of those complaining have gotten guarantors?

Don't present silly replies, I just need facts to the questions above.

People like you are the type that engage in corrupt practices. They are very quick and have great affinity for anything that involves manipulation. By the way, all the people I know that benefited from YOUWIN are doing very well in their respective businesses.

ZoneBslayer:

time reveals ALL things...I remember when I was posting pictures of youwin beneficiaries in rural areas here on nairaland... a lot of farmers in rural areas benefited from that program..God is my witness that I posted the pictures of the success of youwin here... and encouraged people to tap into that opportunity... BUT many of you allowed yourselves to be deceived by political e-goons here on nairaland... NOW the you all are crying over spilt milk! too late...the grass is not always greener on the other side...that opportunity is gone for good!

Bro its not like that. For me, its about the kind of business I had wanted to do then which is different from what I want to venture into now. if such opportunity comes up again I will certainly be a beneficiary.

This is heart breaking. Had it been I started my business with Youwin, I would have gone far. But now its just as if I can't even start not to talk of expanding the biz. Youwin helped capital intensive businesses a lot to get started. I know I would have benefited if such a program is still ongoing.

Lalasticlala, OAM4J, Mynd44

This is serious. We want our Oga(President Buhari) to know what we are asking for. We need change, his program is not moving success.

Am pleading with Mr President to give us the unemployed youths a better program. Yes-p is not a good intervention program for creation of jobs and rapid growth of the economy. This administration might produce little or no start-up businesses. BIG/GEM project does not accept start-ups and those who benefit from these programs are mainly those who started with YOUWIN. Youwin created a very good opportunity for them now but we cannot even start at this point in time. I felt very bad when my business proposal was selected but was later rejected during GEM induction because it is a start-up business.

Yes-p is just a big disappointment. Many of us turned their back on this program immediately after the in-class training. After 3 months of training and commitment, getting guarantors is now our biggest stumbling block. No body would want to be a guarantor at this point in time.

Please #BringBackYouwin and enable start-ups access to BIG/GEM project. Boi/Yes-p program is not helping us achieve our dream.

mrvitalis:

Those that notify dect 14 vs 22 down

I eat my tithe and that's my backing

Hahaha, Oga nothing do you. Call me to join you next time. There is love in sharing.

mrvitalis:
First of all it is not in the Bible that u should pay tithe to any man

The instructions for tithe is so clear in dect 14:22 read down

U are to eat ur tithe not pay in the place he will direct u. . Or u can sale it and use the money to buy the things u lust after including alcohol take it to the house of God and eat it while worshiping God, u were advised to remember the pastors and the poor...

So i don't get were it is said u should pay ur tithe to anyone

There is nowhere it is written that Christians should bring their tithe to the Church. Men(Levites) receive tithe then but now they no longer receive tithe. It is Christ the High priest that receives it, Heb 7:8-12.

Christ showed us how he receives things from us in Mt 25:41-45. This is how to give to God.

truthislight:


Actually, It is almost impossible for one who has not first study the Bible, the root of Christianity, to Just decide to pick a Christian Church and pick the true church.

Logically, to know the difference between the right from the left in what is right and wrong in Christianity, one should first consult with the source of Christianity.

Otherwise, if a blind man follows a blind man, they both will fall into a Pit.

Yes, the man who has not first studied the Bible is blind as to what is truth in Christianity.

Peace.

You are right bro. People don't question their doctrines and belief. Take "trinity" for example, many where taught and still believe that God is 3 person in one God; many believe than one God is one God over all, who is the Father; many also believe that God is just one person appearing in different forms as the Father, Son and Holyspirit. These people study the bible but in line with their church doctrines.

Getting the truth out of all these belief is to approach them with QUESTIONS. When a trinitarian starts saying it is a 'mystery,' then s/he doesn't know what he believes in.

If people should approach the Jehovah's witnesses, Catholics, pentecostals, etc with questions on a particular belief, they will actually get to know the truth. And they have to do this by being neutral as they ask questions.

truthislight:


I can't readily place the person you mentioned though.

However, most people that just started claiming Christianity without first studying the Bible always stand the chance of having their bubbles busted since they were never on solid foundation based on the truth consistent with the whole Bible.

And when such happens, disillusionment sets in big time, and the way they will react is highly unpredictable since it can shake one to its foundation.

To some, lost of rational reason to hang on to anything for that time being make them subscribed to virtually anything they feel is justifiably unexplainable to console themselves.

Most that turned to denial or atheism, and are honest and realist, do normally come round to research the Bible without biases and sentiments.

From hence, anything do happen.

Believing in 'Hell fire' is one of such believe that people accept owing to not doing due diligence in the study of the Bible.

Well done.

Peace.

It is well.

Peace.

truthislight:


How are you doing?

Long time man I hope you are doing well.

Am doing good bro and you?

Bro, this free!cocoa girl, was she an atheist all these while? Some comments just dey surprise me. It seems believers of hell fire, etc are now embracing atheism. Have been reading the topic: Pastor to atheist.

Diva122:
Trek naa

Is this how to motivate someone?



Anyway, I support the deportation of any uncle, aunt, brother, or sister that is not sending us money from US. They should come back so we can also try our luck by replacing them.

Biafman:
Nwanne trek for the real man Trump, we Biafrans are behind you and will support you till you reach Washington for the inauguration.

This is just the kind of motivation I need. Thanks a lot bro.

anibi9674:
trek till u die.

I reject you and your wish.

Those who have anything for me should do it now. Its not when I become celebrity after meeting Trump you will then come and claim relationship.

richidinho:
Send me a recharge card and i will put help you

I promise to do that after meeting Trump.

Dear Nairalanders, I want to trek to Washington for Donald Trump from Aba in Abia state.

My made-in-Aba boot, GPS, and world map is ready for the journey. I really need you guys support and encouragement.

Please hit "like" if you think I can make it and "share" if you think I can't.

The visit by the Northern governors to Clinton with their agenda is now a waste. It is time for Biafrans to visit Trump.

sekundosekundo:


You came late.

Wow! good to know new comers are now getting the gist. It was tug of war before you arrived.

Do you give to Christ what belongs to him or do you encourage covetousness in church? Most of practice what we don't understand just because we feel it works for us. We care less to look critically at what we do to see if we are actually on the right part of truth.

HOW DOES CHRIST RECEIVE TITHE?

Hebrews 7:8-12
8 In the one case tithes are received by mortal men, but in the other case, by one of whom it is testified that he lives. 9 One might even say that Levi himself, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham,...12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.

How does Christ receive tithe since mortal men no longer receive it due to change in priesthood?
Two things are clear here:
1. Mortal men were receiving tithe then
2. But now, Christ receives tithe.

So if men today still crave to receive tithe that is meant for Christ(High priest) in the manner the levites did, then they are coveting what belongs to Christ.

Tithe is a kind of mandatory giving by the Jews in those days according to the law, but God desire that Christians give cheerfully as they prosper. The only way Christ said we can give him anything cheerfully from our heart without compulsion, be it a tenth of your income, more or less, is written here:

Mt 25:41-45
41 “Then the king will say to those on his left, ‘Get away from me! God has cursed you! Go into everlasting fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels! 42 I was hungry, and you gave me nothing to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me nothing to drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me into your homes. I needed clothes, and you didn’t give me anything to wear. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t take care of me.’
44 “They, too, will ask, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or as a stranger or in need of clothes or sick or in prison and didn’t help you?’
45 “He will answer them,‘I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you failed to do for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seemed , you failed to do for me.’

There is no other way. Forget what works for you in your church. Even those who performed powerful works in Mt 7:21-23 were surprised that what worked for them failed them in the end. Only the truth shall set you free.

tintingz:
No, it doesn't contradict, Jesus has made himself clear many times to the Pharisees he was sent from God.




Why dont you quote those verses finish?

The Jews misunderstood (change) Jesus words "for a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy and because that thou being a man makest thyaelf God" this were the jews word, if we read John 10:31-36 we will see Jesus corrected them again.

John 10:31-36King James Version (KJV)

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

At @ bolded, Jesus answered them "because I said I am the son of God"? That was Jesus words correcting the Jews.


The above verse has answered this.

The Jews false allegation = You makest thyself God?

Jesus answered correcting the Jews = Because I said I am the son of God?

Nice one bro.

Please I would like to know if scholar and Olaadegbu pick the correction Christ made or are they still holding unto the false allegation of Jews.

I lost hope on Olaadegbu long time ago when he was 'miaring' from my questions as if a man is monitoring him should he try to leave their man-made doctrine. I thought he must changed by now.

They don't know the difference between the God of our forefathers, and his holy servant...Christ Jesus, Acts 3:13.

dannB:
@shesAgem, Please, I can not hear what they are saying in the leacture course. You guys should help me on how to solve the issue. Cause the assignment is on thursday.let's share ideas here.

Download the pdf version of the video from the resources section of ur course page. It is the usually the 2nd in the list after the mp3.

Governor Ayodele Fayose of Ekiti State, has condemned Monday’s killing of over 30 Igbo protesters, who were mainly members of the
Indigenous People of Biafra (IPOB) and Movement for the Actualisation of Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB), saying it appeared that
President Muhammadu Buhari was turning the people of the South East and South South to “politically endangered species.”
Fayose
He called on the international community to take note of the wanton killings being perpetrated by the Buhari-led All Progressives Congress (APC) government.
A statement on Wednesday, by his Special Assistant on Public Communications and New Media, Lere Olayinka, Governor Fayose said there was no justification whatsoever for the killing of over 30 Igbo youths just because they were marking “Biafra Day in memory of the former leader of the defunct Biafra Republic, the late Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu.”
He said it was worrisome that Nigeria and its people had been more divided since the advent of Buhari’s government, adding that approach to civil unrests of any kind under the government was causing more security problems in the country.
The governor, who reiterated his avowed belief in the unity of Nigeria, said it was unspeakable for security men to have used life ammunitions against the Igbo protesters and went on to justify the murder of innocent Nigerians just because their views were different from those of the President.
“To even justify the killing by claiming that the Igbo youths protest was orchestrated in order to mar the first anniversary of Buhari’s
government is to say the least, wicked and animalistic,” the governor said.
He said it was worrisome that more than 150 Igbo youths had been killed by Nigerian security operatives under the directive Buhari’s
government from August 30, 2015 till date, adding that “It appears that President Buhari has made up his mind to eliminate as many South East and South South people as possible and lovers of the corporate existence of Nigeria and its people should call the president to order.”
“I am alarmed that Nigerians who were only on peaceful protest could be shot at and killed by security agents and after the senseless
killing of innocent Nigerians, security agents could demonstrate their heartlessness by coming up with justifications for the criminal act.
“One is however not surprised because every evil perpetrated by the Buhari-led government against Nigerians, especially those the
presidents appears to hate have been justified by those who perpetrated them.
“We were in this country when over 1,000 Shiite Muslims were killed and buried overnight in Zaria, Kaduna State and the murder was
justified. We were also here when over 400 Agatus were killed in Benue State and the President said nothing.
“The Monday killing of over 30 Igbo youths is therefore condemnable. Its justification is barbaric, heartless, crude and must be condemned by all lovers of unity of Nigeria and its people.
“I therefore wish to express my sympathy to the people of the South Eastern part of Nigeria and I urge them to remain resolute in their
agitation for a Nigeria in which all Nigerians are treated equally irrespective of their tribe and religion.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/biafra-buhari-turning-s-east-s-south-people-to-politically-endangered-species-fayose/