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FreeIgboho:
See how you couldn’t answer my question? Because there is ONLY ONE correct answer!

But I'll answer yours:
God the FATHER!!!! That's who!!!
Or are you saying the Father is not God??

Good. You are are talking as if it is difficult for you to mention him. And you you know he is the source of everything.

Now you can ask me anything. Quote this comment. i will answer you during the day cos my battery is very low now.

FxMasterz:
In all honesty, you posited that ChatGPT does favour Trinity, while Image123 claimed It doesn't.

Personally, I can attest to it that ChatGPT favours the Trinity doctrine. It is trained in whatever is popular. The Trinity doctrine is more popular than the no-Trinity doctrine.

I'll counsel my brother, Image123 to apologize to Boomark in the spirit of love and Christian brotherhood.

However, I would advise my brother, Boomark to stop making absolute assertions on the matter. Calling the Trinity doctrine a false doctrine when you are yet to prove it so, is uncultured.

I still have a lot to show you from the Scriptures once you're done with Image123. Do not make definitive remarks because the Scriptures say of us: And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 1 Corinthians 8:2.

Thank you bro.

But please your response is hidden in this place. Kindly copy your response to the main challenge thread.

I'm not talking about his personal belief. I'm talking about what he is claiming that I said. Is it a false accusation or not? Edit your response or say whatever you feel it is there.

FreeIgboho:
I'll answer for you: GOD because he can't be anything else. Any person with all those attributes has to be God and since there is only one God, he has to be part of that one God. (Eg, ONLY God existed before creation).
Case closed.
Nice chatting with you.

Who is God that Jesus is hearing from? You didn't answer the question. I don't if you understand what Jesus said? He didn't hear from himself. Who is that God?

Stop answering like someone who doesn't read bible. And don't tell me it is God. Unless you don't know him.

FreeIgboho:
You were asked a very simple question:
WHAT IS SOMEONE WITH ALL THOSE ATTRIBUTES?
Prophet? Angel? Just a man?
Once you honestly answer that, end of discussion.

Why should I answer you when you don't even believe in Jesus Christ? Someone with all those attributes got it from somewhere. You are too busy with the surface instead of the source.

FreeIgboho:
If Jesus is NOT God can you say EXACTLY what he is and why these below are NOT Godly attributes, and that will be the end of the discussion.

1) Say he'll come into people's hearts
2) Forgive sins
3) Say "Before Abraham I am"
4) To have existed with the Father since before creation
5) Called himself the beginning and the end
6) Said if you destroy this temple (his body) he himself will raise it up in 3 days
7) Be after people's souls not any worldly gain
8} Not be destroyed by God for being worshipped as God. Or is "jealous God" powerless?
9) His worshippers totally blessed and exploding in numerbers. Or is "jealous God" powerless?
10) Be active and alive in people's lives TODAY, with testimonies everywhere.

Just say WHAT exactly he is and why these are NOT Godly attributes, and that will be the end of the discussion.

John 8:40 NRSV
[40] but now you are trying to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did.

Ask yourself, Who is the God he is hearing from? That truth which is the will of God is what you must do. When you know it you will then see the errors in all you wrote.

As for signs and wonders, see your colleagues here below

Matthew 7:21-23 NLT
[21] “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. [22] On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ [23] But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’


He doesn't joke with God's will. No time to argue with those who have rejected what he heard and said from God.

Prophecies, miracles and testimonies of those who receive miracles are all useless.

FxMasterz


Pastor, is the truth difficult to say here?

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136388655

Image123:
You did not answer this. Boomark.

I don't have time to be repeating same thing over and over again.

Image123:
Again and again, the proof remains that ChatGPT or any other AI is not reliable to stand on. Here is my own video saying again that i won.
This time, i didn't log in, i just put everything just to be transparent, still same result saying the opposite of what you post. As usual, make of it what you will. i don't need it for validation, you do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSBOPnMVmV4

Whenever you make a clear bold video you tell me.

FreeIgboho:
If Jesus is NOT God can you say EXACTLY what he is and why these below are NOT Godly attributes, and that will be the end of the discussion.

1) Say he'll come into people's hearts
2) Forgive sins
3) Say "Before Abraham I am"
4) To have existed with the Father since before creation
5) Called himself the beginning and the end
6) Said if you destroy this temple (his body) he himself will raise it up in 3 days
7) Be after people's souls not any worldly gain
8} Not be destroyed by God for being worshipped as God. Or is "jealous God" powerless?
9) His worshippers totally blessed and exploding in numerbers. Or is "jealous God" powerless?
10) Be active and alive in people's lives TODAY, with testimonies everywhere.

Just say WHAT exactly he is and why these are NOT Godly attributes, and that will be the end of the discussion.

I know you believe so much in human beings than God. You don't even believe in Jesus. So answer this:

1. Do you believe what Jesus said, that he has a God according to Revelation 3:12?

Let's watch as the antichrist spirit will reject Jesus' word. Oya reject...

Gabrielshow24 , Steep, Sand2022, Kingsempires
Chibuezem , Dtruthspeaker,
sonmvayina FreeIgboho
Ken4Christ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_OdAWggZAU?si=zkzyF2lZhGOqq2Jq

He said the false dichotomy applies to my question. And my question is "Do you believe in what Jesus said..?" So asking people "do you believe in Christ and his words?" have now become a false dichotomy. This is the spirit of the antichrist in trinitarians doing its work of opposing Christ.

2 John 1:9 NRSV
[9] Everyone who does not abide in the teaching of Christ, but goes beyond it, does not have God; whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.


You all have rejected the teachings and words of Jesus Christ and have gone beyond it to believe man-made doctrine of trinity which is not in the bible. You ignore and refuse to believe his words because of trinity. You don't have God. You only have the spirit of antichrist.

Round 7

Subtopic: Jesus Christ is a prophet of God

Claim:

The Bible identifies Jesus not as God Almighty, but as a prophet sent by God.
Jesus said, “A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country” (Matthew 13:57), and the people declared, “This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth” (Matthew 21:11).

He fulfilled Moses’ prophecy: “I will raise them up a Prophet… and will put my words in his mouth” (Deuteronomy 18:18; Acts 3:22). Jesus Himself said, “I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment what I should say” (John 12:49-50). He say the truth which he hears from God.

A prophet is God’s messenger, not God Himself.
Therefore, Jesus being a prophet proves the Father who sent him is greater than all — including Jesus (John 14:28) — just as the main topic states.


Key verses:

Matthew 13:57 NIV
[57] And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home.”

Luke 13:33 NIV
[33] In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day—for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem!

Matthew 21:10-11 HCSB
[10] When He entered Jerusalem, the whole city was shaken, saying, “Who is this? ” [11] And the crowds kept saying, “This is the prophet Jesus from Nazareth in Galilee! ”

Luke 7:16 HCSB
[16] Then fear came over everyone, and they glorified God, saying, “A great prophet has risen among us,” and “God has visited His people.”


Deuteronomy 18:18 NIrV
[18] I will raise up for them a prophet like you. He will be one of their own people. I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him to say.

Acts 3:20-22 NIrV
[20] He will send the Messiah. Jesus has been appointed as the Messiah for you. [21] Heaven must receive him until the time when God makes everything new. He promised this long ago through his holy prophets. [22] Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me. He will be one of your own people. You must listen to everything he tells you.

John 7:16 GNT
[16] Jesus answered, “What I teach is not my own teaching, but it comes from God, who sent me.


John 12:49-50 GNT
[49] This is true, because I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has commanded me what I must say and speak. [50] And I know that his command brings eternal life. What I say, then, is what the Father has told me to say.”

John 8:40 LSB
[40] But now you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God. This Abraham did not do.

John 14:28 LSB
[28] You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Do you agree Image123?



I have posted Round 6 result

Round 6 Result

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 point

Image123: 0 points for any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring)
Boomark: 0

Final score

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 points

Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGfJTMexJoA?si=4XgfTBrHpZxnVLgF

Image123:
Okay, good. What of



i guess you want me to use this to re-score your rounds? What rounds are you contesting? Lemme know the ones i'll help you with.

BTW, i'll be put all the rules in quote each time. i don't intend to have a dedicated tab. i can use AI for other things. So anytime i need it for you, i'll put the rules. At least, you should have no fear, they are your rules na. Or?

No. I have been doing the scoring manually. I am not contesting any round. I only saw you didn't do the right thing in your round 5 video.

All I have been doing is for you to do the right thing. You don't do it wrong and start lamenting.

The Ai has a place where you see previous conversations and you can continue your conversation with it there any time. You also get fresh page where you can ask new questions.

Image123:
Make your requests clear and straightforward. You keep twisting and bending on your own rules, get your acts together. Make sure that the OP(Opening Post) is updated with the rules. i cannot be searching for the latest rules from your several updates. i didn't make the rules, you did. i only use them to show you what you didn't know before. You MUST know.

It has been updated and bolded. The challenge rules remains permanent while you use and edit the one with instruction for each round

Image123:
Round 6

Subtopic: The Holy Spirit performs functions that make Him divine and He is referred to several times as either belonging to God or Christ or the Lord.


Claim:

Reading the Bible, we see that the Holy Spirit is a person and He is distinct from the Father and the Son. As stated in the subtopic, His functions as seen in the Bible are divine. These functions include, but are not limited to His works in creation, the resurrection of Jesus, and the inspiration of the Bible. These are all works of God.
Apart from these, the Bible tells us that He is eternal, He is everywhere, and He knows everything. As i stated, He is referred to as the Spirit of God, of Christ, and of the Lord:

Round 6

Rebuttal

The Holy spirit performs divine functions according to the will of God the Father. It is the spirit of God not another God. It does not speak on his own authority as Christ told us, he speaks whatever he hears from God the Father through Jesus Christ. God gives the Holy spirit to anyone he wants. It is being sent and proceeds from the Father and not his equal. It is of God because it belongs to God. It is of Christ because God the Father gave it to Christ without measure. And all things are of God the Father according to 1 Corinthians 8:4-6. It is the power of God. Jesus said that the sent is not greater than he who sent him.

The works of God means the works of God the Father. Just as Jesus is doing the work on him who sent him. The Holy spirit was never called God in anywhere in the scripture. The Holy spirit does the work of God the Father by praying for believers according to the will of God. So he is not equal to God the Father because he is serving God's purpose and will.

So the subtopic does not support trinity but support the fact that the Father is one God over all and greater than all who are called God.

Key verses:

I Corinthians 8:4-6 NKJV
[4] ...and that there is no other God but one. [5] For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), [6] yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

Luke 1:35 NKJV
[35] And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

John 15:26 NKJV
[26] “But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.

Acts 1:8 NKJV
[8] But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

John 16:13 NKJV
[13] However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

John 9:4 HCSB
[4] We must do the works of Him who sent Me while it is day. Night is coming when no one can work.

John 13:16 RSV
[16] Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.


1 Corinthians 3:23 LSB
[23] and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.

John 3:34 LSB
[34] For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for He gives the Spirit without measure.

Acts 2:17 LSB
[17] ‘And it shall be in the last days,’ God says, ‘That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind;...

John 14:26 LSB
[26] But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

Romans 8:26-27 NLT
[26] And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. [27] And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God’s own will.

Image123:
You are completely On Your Own then. Seeing you cannot obey your own rules and insist on changing goal posts per round. You didn't say claims and rebutalls are to be sent to whatsapp before 24 hours, which you later pleaded for 48 hours. Evidently, it's to help you manipulate AI. Good luck.

Ok I will post round 6 rebuttal and the updated rules will start from there.

Image123:
You are completely On Your Own then. Seeing you cannot obey your own rules and insist on changing goal posts per round. You didn't say claims and rebutalls are to be sent to whatsapp before 24 hours, which you later pleaded for 48 hours. Evidently, it's to help you manipulate AI. Good luck.

You are not blind to see manipulation in the video posted. Have you seen any manipulation or you are only interested in making false remarks against innocent people. Even though your video was tiny I still spotted your errors that affected the AI judgement.

After today I will not listen to your false accusations because your deciet is now obvious.

Image123:
You're quoting round 1 and result and talking about round 5. i used the prompt that you gave in the OP, check it. i am not AI, so i am not responsible for this word jangle you are talkind about, called.
Kindly make a screenshot or marking so i understand your concerns about brackets. i simply copied your post, just like others or is it no more a claim. As for video, i'll try making clearer if i make another but it's clear enough on landscape on phone.

What you posted is like this:

General rule

CLAIM:
[Subtopic:

claim
Jesus himself.......]

The subtopic is not supposed to be inside the bracket. It should be above the CLAIM. You can delete the small letter "claim." It should look like this.

Main Topic:

Subtopic: Jesus Christ..

CLAIM:

[Jesus himself in Matthew and key verses]

REBUTTAL:

[Your rebuttal and key verses]

See how it should be. You must first post the general rule and forget about it. Remember to tell it to use the rule in subsequent posts. After this you don't need to copy the general rules again.

So after each round, you copy this below and edit it properly and post to ChatGPT in the same page where you have already posted the general rule. I have removed rule 7 because there was no rule 6. I will update old rule 7 as rule 6 and also update instruction 6 which will take effect from round 5. Check here to see my previous post of how to feed the AI with rule.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136386003

Round 1 or 2 or 3 as the case may be.

Main Topic:
The Father is One God over all and greater than all who are called God
Vs
The Father is God, the Son Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet they are one God (Trinity).

Subtopic:

CLAIM:
[Paste your full message here]


REBUTTAL:
[Paste their full message here]

✅ Instructions:
You must not be partial. Analyze both responses and score this round based on:

1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately?

2. Did either person use scripture out of context?

3. Did either side prove or avoid the point?

4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely?

5. Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone?


Then give:

A brief summary

Gabrielshow24:
Illiteracy is really bad😂. No matter the amount of straws you build they will surely burn in the fire of truth👑. Provide what is needed. Also, You have used this script before and it backfired—You claimed I lied and then evidences refuted you. Now, you have added this one to your list of lies.

Kindly educate yourself on what false dichotomy is and stop wasting everybody's time. You made a false dichotomy not Jesus!

You have been educated already. Your false accusation against Jesus is clear in the video. That's what the antichrist is achieving with trinity.

Image123:
i have not seen Boomark's response to this 48 hours after. He's more busy with his ChatGPT struggles than actually having a discussion. Okay oh, just follow your rules, at least you were busy boasting like Goliath of Gath before i took your challenge. Now show working, it's screenshot we're seeing.

If you are only interested in telling and insisting on lies to cause confusion and delays just to get +10 points it won't work. The rule was made for cases where there was no issue.

Go and prepare the video I asked you to do accordingly to the rules I gave you. Because I sense you manipulated and distorted my claim.

I have already prepared the round 6 rebuttal since yesterday. See it in the screenshot below. But I will not post it until I remarks Round 5 with the updated rule 7 and instruction 6.

And I want people to also see how you make false claims against people.

I was falsely accused in the post I made in link below.
I would like you to check if it is a false accusation or he is right. What I said was marked with pink and what image123 accused me of saying marked with green

What I said about ChatGPT in the first screenshot:

Me: It's default program favours trinity.

What I was accused of saying in the bolded:

Image123: Prior to my corrections, you erroneously denied ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136385350

See another place where he made the same statement. So I want you people to honestly tell us the truth. Thank you.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136380242

gohf, Janosky, Emusan.

Image123:
Like i said earlier, AI is not as reliable as you think and it doesn't claim to be. ChatGPT will always tell you "ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info." It can give you different answers, based on many factors like what you feed it either knowingly or unknowingly.
i just fed in Round 1 and 2 and it gave different results. i was still asking it to remark again. You can see it in the two videos below. Same AI that told you and me that Mr A had the edge is telling me now that it is a draw. Who knows maybe tomorrow, it will say Mr B has the edge.
Am i trying to prove that i won or i am winning and have more points? NO, i don't care. i am only showing you the frailty of what you are resting on.

Round 1 result below, you can pause at any time like you usually say. i even challenged it that it initially said that you won. See it there in the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bx04SSk0kU

Round 2 result below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGQAq1i8Lp0

There is an error in what you posted. In round 5. It is saying that I made my claim because Jesus was CALLED servant. I clearly said that Jesus IS a servant of God not that he is called a servant.

I also saw CLAIM above the subtopic and the claim was not in a bracket. These are errors in what you post. I couldn't see detail of what you post because the characters are tiny. Please make a clear video and post.

I will amend rule 7 and instructions 6. Through it was okay in my own but I meant to to be for the claims alone. In your own, it analysed the main topic separately and wrote "Valid" for both of us. This is an error on your part because we are not opposing each other on that subtopic.

So try and feed the rules as I have shown you. Start on a fresh ChatGPT page.

Image123:
Job_5:2  For wrath killeth the foolish man, and envy slayeth the silly one.
Hos_7:11  Ephraim also is like a silly dove without heart: they call to Egypt, they go to Assyria.
2Ti_3:6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

Not saying you should go and start name-calling anyone, though, just proving all things. If a kid is misbehaving, there's nothing wrong with telling the kid not to be silly.

When they finish telling us we will know who is the silly one.

FxMasterz:
What are you guys even fighting about? You're discussing scriptures and still have the guts to call one another 'silly' and referring to yourselves as having a problem. Who do you guys really represent?

Please check the screenshot I posted and tell us if he actually said what i said. Don't mind him.

Please make a clear video using xrecorder app from your phone I can't see what you post clearly.

See what you will do because it's like you are not doing well. On a fresh page in ChatGPT, post these rules below alone. See in the screenshot of how I did it. You don't need to copy it all the time. This is the general rule that it uses to make judgement.

ChatGPT please don't comment on this post. You will comment accordingly to the instructions on the next and subsequent posts.

Challenge Rules:

Bible Versions:
Any version allowed. Each participant must state the version used when quoting scripture.

Rule 1: The Bible Alone
Only the Bible will be used as authority. Each person must prove their claim with scripture. No assuming or borrowing anything from science, commentaries, traditions, creeds, etc.

Rule 2: Context Always
Verses must be explained in their immediate and full context. Never isolate a verse to prove a point.

Rule 3: Equal Turns
Each person gets the same number of responses per point/claim. Till any exhaust their claim.

Rule 4: Respect and Clarity
Use respectful language. Focus on proving truth, not mocking.

Rule 5: One Topic at a Time
The challenge or claim must be focused on proving or disproving the Trinity. Do not bring in unrelated topics (e.g., Sabbath, tithing, etc.).

After this one above, you will then start posting this one below for each round. This is the instructions given to it so It can focus on the general rule above

Main Topic: Trinity - is it biblical?


Subtopic:

CLAIM:
[Paste your full message here inside this bracket]


REBUTTAL:
[Paste their full message here inside this bracket]

✅ Instructions:
You must not be partial. Analyze both responses and score this round based on:

1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately?

2. Did either person use scripture out of context?

3. Did either side prove or avoid the point?

4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely?

5. Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone?


Then give:

A brief summary

A winner for this round (if clear)

See the screenshots below to see how I started it. Please ensure you put the claim and rebuttal inside their respective brackets. If you know programming a little you will know that missing a bracket can give you a different thing altogether.

Please stop using the award point part. It was not properly started for ChatGPT. It was for you to see how scores are award. I do it manually for only the final winner and anyone who avoided points.



Rule 7. Was meant to be for only claims not rebuttal. I will update it again so It will disqualify anyone whose subtopic and claim under his subtopic does not reflect on the main topic. Rule 7 and instruction 6 were add after round 4.

I will remark round 5 after updating Rule 7.

Apart from these there is no problem.

Image123:
i have asked you several times to ask ChatGPT the direct question, but you come here giving silly assumptions. What is laryid BTW, you've mentioned it a couple of times.

It means lied.

I couldn't post because of it.

I will call on gohf, Janosky, FxMasterz, and Emusan to tell us for the sake of truth. In all honesty, if what I said, is the same as what Image123 is accusing me of saying. 2 non-trinitarian and 2 trinitarian.

We will continue when we see what they say. Its like Image123 has a problem.

Image123:
Lolz, this is a whole new level of hypocrisy. So you were too cowardly to tell AI that you were referring to it, you went to carry church G? Who is church G? i gave you clear proof that ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity. You went to tell it Church G. Who is this unserious fellow? Be courageous enough to know when you are wrong. It is very simple. Not wrapping nonsense around yourself.

So church G is now an excuse for your lies and out of point talk? If I use ChatGPT you will also lament that ChatGPT know we are talking about it and became biased. I made it neutral and you are still lamenting.

You laryid against me period. Church G has no business in how you twisted what I said. That's exactly how you twist scriptures.

I thought you should be apologising to me for making false claim against me? But you have abandoned it you are now blaming a neutral Church G.

See how Gabriel mocked Jesus Christ


https://www.nairaland.com/8484151/bible-challenge-prove-trinity-falsehood/4#136384223

I have told them the spirit that is at work in Trinitarians.

Boomark:
Rule for the participants

Rule 1: The Bible Alone
Only the Bible will be used as authority. Each person must prove their claim with scripture. No assuming or borrowing anything from science, commentaries, traditions, creeds, etc.

Rule 2: Context Always
Verses must be explained in their immediate and full context. Never isolate a verse to prove a point.

Rules for you ChatGPT

Rule 1: You must strictly analyse and make judgement based on claim and key verses presented only.

Rule 2: You must not be partial.

Rule 3: You must state who won the challenge.

Mr B Question:
[John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.



Question:
1. From the scriptures above, do you believe that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ?

Chose option:

A. I believe and accept

B. I reject]

Mr G Answer:
[I have told you, the son glorifies the Father and the Father as well glorified the son by giving him a name above every other name!

What aspect of this don't you understand? In Authority the Son honors the Father and the Father likewise has made all honor the Son as they honor Him!

Your false dichotomy falls short!]


MR G CLAIM:
[Paste your full message here]


MR B CLAIM:
I want to say that Mr G (Gabrielshow24) is not a Christian but a heathen. For dodging the question I asked with off point response. Refusing to chose either option which means rejecting Jesus' teaching, and for saying the words of Jesus Christ from both scriptures are false dichotomy.

Saying that Jesus was glorifying the Father and the Father was also glorifying the son does not answer the question about what Jesus said. Besides the Father didn't say anything in any of those scriptures. He lied in order to avoid accepting the words of Jesus. He has rejected the only true God and Christ Jesus because he does not continue in the teachings of Christ. cannot be regarded as a Christian but a heathen.


Key verses:

2 John 1:9 NIV
[9] Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

John 12:48-49 HCSB
[48] The one who rejects Me and doesn’t accept My sayings has this as his judge: The word I have spoken will judge him on the last day. [49] For I have not spoken on My own, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a command as to what I should say and what I should speak.

Luke 10:16 HCSB
[16] Whoever listens to you listens to Me. Whoever rejects you rejects Me. And whoever rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.”


John 12:48 HCSB
[48] The one who rejects Me and doesn’t accept My sayings has this as his judge: The word I have spoken will judge him on the last day.]

✅ Instructions:
Please analyze both claim according to all the rules with respect to the question and answer. On the list below, award +10 point each to who followed the rules and -10 point to who disobeyed the rules. Score based on the following:

1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately?

2. Did either person use scripture out of context?

3. Did either side prove or avoid the point?

4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone?

5. Which claim was closer to the truth based on the question answer?

6. Mention who can be regarded as a heathen.

7. Did Mr G avoid answering the question?

8. Was Mr G answer to the question out of point?

9. Analyze the false dichotomy statement say if it was made against the questioner or the words of Jesus Christ in the scriptures?

Oppose my claim and post here. We will insert it in MR G claim and send to Ai for analysis.

Gabrielshow24


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_OdAWggZAU?si=zkzyF2lZhGOqq2Jq


Spirit of the antichrist at work.

ChatGPT also confirmed that he is in the business of telling "laryii." I used church G in the video instead of AppG.

https://youtube.com/shorts/HfQ_GDU9b9A?si=S6OWd2oULDGlwQVN

I will not strive with him anymore because it is obvious he and most Trinitarians have problem. They don't have God because they have abandoned the teachings of Jesus Christ.

2 John 1:9 NIV
[9] Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

They have gone ahead to form trinity which is not seen anywhere in the bible and abandoned the teachings of Jesus Christ about himself and about God the Father, the only true God.

They think they are doing Christ a favour by trying to make him equal to God the Father. They don't know it is a subtle way that satan and the antichrist have used to make them abandon the teachings of Jesus Christ. Christ know better than all of them.

All my claims in Round 1, 3, and 5 are based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. That's why I clear all the points available while image123 goes ahead to blame.

His main topic and claims are all against the teachings of Jesus Christ.

I will drop a link to one of them who mocked the teachings of Jesus Christ. When I said they have the spirit of antichrist I knew what I was saying.