₦airaland Forum

Ribajae:

Which heaven mister man, u think that Jonathan would have stopped recession? Or other calamities. We were in a country close to a big climax of happenings which is poorly managed by another old organism

recession would not have happened in if jonathan was to continue. First of all, 6months without ministers making no capital project happening and no money in the economy. Secondly he will not go to China for money swap which made America to boycourt buying our oil which lead to lack of money. 3rdly , he will not threaten to stop amnesty program for nigerdelta militants which caused them to start bombing oil installation . 4thly he will not go abroad a speak poorly of the country which together with te above points made foreign investor remove their money from our economy and he will not stop importation of rice despite the alredy estblished inflation which caused even more hunger..... the list goes on and on but I don't have time to start mentioning this. Nigeria was 3rd fastest growing econmy in less than 8months , we entered into recession . Think my dear, think

mfm04622:
Please don't insult me.

Yes, they usually do that, but that was not done in this case. The car was not dumped after the operation, rather it was taken to Kwara State Government house and the car was registered again. If they have no link to the State Government, how did they have access to the Government House to park the car?

It is obvious you wont reason otherwise and I don't have time to waste.. I wonder how a normal person will think that the senate president and governor will attempt to rob 5 banks and get less than 50million from the counter since they cannot assess the safe..

mfm04622:
What is the vehicle used during the robbery doing in Government house?

lolzzzzz.....such a daft question. No one robs with his car what robbers do worldwide is to snatch or steal a vehicle , rob with it and dump it not to mention using a vehicle with a noted plate number. Saraki also does not drive such a vehicle ( lexus 300).. Use your head my dear!!

Bolusticus:
So, an armed robber that knows the dire consequences of blackmailing of an ordinary LG Chairman will just wake up one morning and accuse a sitting governor of sponsorship?

Just like that?

if you are beaten very well and starved you will even implicate mr Trump. Stop believing everything which makes you moronic.

samysamy:
A fake mopol allegedly shot Michael Opeyemi Bamidele (MOB)' arm today while trying to shoot Fayemi in Ekiti state .MOB has been rushed to the hospital, reports says one of the two other persons who were shot may have died.


Source: http://usascholarshipfree..com/2018/06/see-fake-mopol-who-shot-mob-while.html

excuse me. it's an old move. We know this stunts of course done to discredit the opponent. APC is a failed party whether they win next election or not ( sincerely hope they dont), it is clear they cannot take Nigeria to any new height democratically or otherwise. Shame on this people!!

Amarabae:
So the late professor of pharmacy Dora Akunyili also wanted to study medicine but failed?
You see why the Nigeria health sector is in shambles.
It's a pity

yes prof Dora wanted to study medicine the same with over 90 percent of JOHESU members and if you can't disprove this just keep shut!!

lordkush:
since others went on strike the doctors that know it all have not been working. why ?

your ignorance is so much that you didnt know that hospitals have been working including ISTH.. Nawa for you o!! Let me add that you cry themuch you want to that is you problem infact my advice is that you get an empty butchet and fill it with you tears , nobody cares about you!!

lordkush:
nigeria is indeed a shithole

so because the minister of health is a doctor,

minister of state a doctor

Even minister of labour is a doctor

all the cmd in federal and general hospitals are doctors


wher 're the nurses, med scientists, pharmacists, microbiologists, chemists, these 're all professionals. they attended universities
just like the doctors.


as it stands now. a house officer the lowest cadre of doctors earn 180k. I have seen the pay slip of a friend that works in irrua specialist teaching hospital.

I'm neither a doc or a pharmacist or a nurse
but the disparity and cheating is too much mhen.


let's call a spade a spade.

you are in your own world dear. Doctors are paid higher everywhere in the world, the same way Judges are paid higher than other judicial staff, military is paid higher than other security agancies. It's called essential services and it's everywhere in the world..so cry from today till you die it won't change anything. , if e pain you too much den go and read medicine and surgery at AAU that is if your brain can carry or better still kill yourself!! The next set of house officers will be paid more than 180000 so you can so you can jump into the highway, just because you are ignorant, jealous and unintelligent to know that this is what is obtained everywhere in the world . My friend gerrara here men!!

Benite:
… As NIC takes over mediation process
By Luminous Jannamike

ABUJA – In consideration of the plight of health-seeking public and to give room for an amicable resolution of its dispute with the Federal Government, the Joint Health Sector Unions, JOHESU, on Wednesday agreed to suspend its 44 days old strike on Friday June 1, 2018.

This decision followed the intervention of the National Industrial Court, NIC, which offered to take over the mediation process between the striking health workers and the government.

Before now, an NGO, the Incorporated Trustees of the Kingdom Human Rights Foundation, KHRFI, had obtained a court order against JOHESU; mandating the health workers to suspend their industrial action on the 21st of May, 2018.

But, in pursuit of its constitutional rights to either comply or challenge the Court order, JOHESU filed an appeal at the Appellate Court.

However, the leadership of JOHESU decided to sheath its sword and direct the members of the union to resume duties since the NIC, as a neutral and impartial organ of the Judiciary, has mandated its mediation centre to take over the negotiation and reconciliation processes within the next 24 hrs in the interest of the public.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/05/breaking-johesu-agrees-suspend-strike-june-1/

you want something that is not happening anywhere in the world (1) remove relativity in salaries and (2) to become CMDS (except for privately owned hospitals who appoint management specialist ) . I laff in esan. It will never work..they should not resume naaa.. let's see who will suffer other than the poor masses paying from their nose @ private hospitals,hunger for kill JOHESU. Shame on them!!

Bolustical:
I don't think there should be anyone on Nairaland who should need the 5k. If you can afford expensive data being provided by the service providers, then you are no target for the scheme.

However, the question can be rephrased by asking anyone on Nairaland who has poor relatives in the rural areas who are benefiting from the scheme.

you are spewing rubbish, do you know how many nairalanders will colect that 5000naira just to buy data??

MrRhymes101:
u r joking right? Privatise the health sector of a country with 75% living below poverty level?? Think again!

please I don't have your time.... all of a sudden you care about the 75 percent nigerians below poverty level? Did you not think about them before you embarked on the strike? These 75 percent, are they not receiving medical care right now from private hospitals? Face the fact my dear, privatise and you wil see how irrelevant JOHESU is and i'm sure that is your fear.

Unlimited22:
I made a point without being insulting.
Whose brain needs testing?

you deserve it.

Unlimited22:
Doctors are ALWAYS the first to quote USA and UK. It's noteworthy to point out that all health workers earn much more than the average household salary in the aforementioned countries. And the quality of life is definitely NOT the same. I don't know why we should be quoting meaningless figures.
Are you aware that doctors In Canada recently asked for a reduction in their salaries, and an increment in that of health workers? Can this ever happen in Nigeria?
Call a spade a spade please.

your brain is paining you, you want nigeria to be like the developed countries but you don't want what is obtained there to happen here.. Get your head tested dear. It can't happen in Nigeria? Yet you want the consultancy title happening for some professions there to happen here..you brain definitely needs testing.

MrRhymes101:
Pay them abeg! Why force them to call it off?? But this health workers took an oath to save lives na... Wedding MC

It is not all that took an oath to save lives.. an association comprising of cleaners, accountants, ordeals, mortuary attendants, generator engineers can 't be about saving lives rather an accountant wants to held a hospital . They are saying that a cleaner also derserve to held a hospital, why will they not think this way since hazard allowance is 5000 naira for both the doctor, nurse, pharmacist, accountant, record staff but when Ebola and lassa came , more than 10 doctors died ( even though they represent 5 percent of hospital work force) and no member of JOHESU has been reported to have died except a nurse during the Ebola outbreak. Please Health sector should just be privitised all this aggitations will stop at once.

Cr7sBabe:
You want me to read this!
this early mormor

you try naa..lazy nigerian youth..."winks"

Mobsync:
Eye service.

Have the doctors not been treating other patients?

And when doctors go on strike, don't JOHESU attend to other patients?

So why is this news?

JOHESU attend to other patients?? Ignorance is your real name

Fearcom:
If you don't keep shut I will paste payslips and tables used to prepare Salaries, you m0ron

please paste it but more importantly, tell me the hospital that pays that much ( you will be helping a bro). If you don't, I wish sincerely that the thunder strikes you also.

QTEST007:
THIS ONE BAFFLE ME WALAHI!!

my own don pass baffle my brother, i'm soaked.

7Ebisco:
Call for sack of health minister, walk out of negotiations

Paul Obi in Abuja

The Joint Health Sector Union (JOHESU) thursday called on health workers in Lagos, Kano and Yobe States to relax the ongoing indefinite strike in their domain following the cooperation of the governors from the above states.

The move to relax the strike in Lagos, Kano and Yobe States was as a fallout of the positive responses from the state governments in addressing several demands made by JOHESU.

Speaking with journalists last night, JOHESU Chairman, Biobelemoye Josiah, explained: “It is paramount we seize this discourse to specially convey deep appreciation to state governments which have gone ahead to meet the various clamours and terms of settlement in agreements with government. This include Yobe and Lagos State which have now adjusted the CONHESS scale as demanded.

“We specially commend the Lagos State Government for approving the consultancy cadre for pharmacists in its employment. Just like the Niger State Government did with pharmacists since 2012.

“The JOHESU also expresses gratitude to the Kano State Government for ensuring good welfare package for its healthcare workforce in addition to the intervention of Governor Abdullahi Ganduje to ameliorate the on-going strike. We urge our members in Lagos, Yobe and Kano State to tactically relax the strike to accommodate emergency services in those states as a measure of goodwill.

“JOHESU wishes to declare once again that the crux of our clamour has always been restoration of the relativity in the CONHESS and CONMESS scale which was deliberately distorted with active government collaboration in 2014. We remain steadfast that in alignment with democratic norms and the rule of law, this desire remains very legitimate.”

They also took a swipe at the Minister of Health, Prof. Isaac Adewole, demanding that the federal government terminate his appointment as a minister.

They stated that “the Federal Ministry of Health as presently led by Prof. Isaac Adewole has constituted itself as a major hindrance to fruitful deliberation as he has never disguised his intention to symbolise the propaganda machine of the NMA through his posturing at all our meetings, which necessitated JOHESU to take a position that the negotiations were structured to fail ab-initio.

“Prof. Adewole is on record to have insisted that the wage structure in the health sector must reckon with what was obtainable in the 1991 late Prof. Olukoye Ransome – Kuti’s dual salary system (MSS and HSS) which marked the beginning of persistent acrimony until it was corrected through the Harmonised Tertiary.

“The duo of the Ministers of Labour and Health who are both members of the NMA have taken a position that parity must entail a basic salary differential in the emolument of health professionals and their doctor colleagues.

“On May 15, 2018, JOHESU came up with a comprehensive presentation to graphically showcase the realities of the various salary scales in the health sector from 1977 till date.

“Even when the reality on ground shows that a fresh doctor presently enters the public service on CONMESS 3 which is the equivalent of GL 12 with a take home monthly package ofN313,000,00 per month, the closest in line who are health professionals enter public service on CONHESS 9 which is the equivalent of GL 10 with a package of N161,670.00 with a proposal to have an adjustment that takes him to a total emolument ofN190,000.00, the two ministers who are members of NMA have taken positions that these health professionals seek parity with doctors. In mathematical terms this is a significant 61 per cent differential.”

Josiah who was accompanied by JOHESU Secretary, Ekpebor Florence, stressed that should President Muhaamadu Buhari fail to remove Prof. Adewole from office, the minister, they argued would remained “a major threat to public health especially at a time that the dreaded Ebola disease is currently rampaging in some African countries.

“The federal government must energise the deadlocked negotiations between the JOHESU and Federal Ministry of Labour and Employment with genuine conciliators who have national interest.

Specifically, a befitting budget to offset the already compromised three options presented by JOHESU to the federal government on May 16, 2018, must be made available through interventions facilitated by the Office of the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF),” they maintained.

http://www.mcebisco.com.ng/2018/05/health-workers-relax-strike-in-lagos.html

313,000 naira.... thunder fire JOHESU executive for this kind of disinformation

Olatara:
euthanasia is also know as suicide. I came across that word in an Indian movie 'Guzaarish' I don't wish my enemy such.

euthanasia isnot suicide o, it's also know as " mercy killing". Where a patient request to be killed.in suicide one kills oneself but in euthanasia, one request of the authority to be killed. The doctor may require legal authorisation to perform the patients wish.

hydeka:
Smh..

lolz. You tire for me abi?

optm:
u do u do those surgical procedures u listed? do u do heart surgeries aswell? but u a med dr? why cant u ? this is a pointer that health care requires inputs frm different specialist/ specialty nd nt a one man show. not every pt dt comes fr eye care services require surgery or wld be needing the services of an ophthalmologist. i carry out an eye exam on pts, mk a diagnosis, treat or refer those dt wld b needing the services of an opthalmologist to dem just as u mk referrals to ur colleagues specialized in an area ur aint specialized in. so u c dt health care isnt a one man show but requires alot

lolz.... heart surgeries are done in Nigerian my dear, (also neurosurgery) a pivate hospital in abuja, lagos . However, the fact that they are not done doesn't mean that they will done by non doctors and that is a very unbrilliant analogy . Your second analogy is more intelligent but as you have said, I refer to senior colleagues, they are colleagues, you are not colleague my dear.. ophthalmologist will never refer any case to you and I hope you know what that means.. I don't have a problem with others beaing Word consultant sha because it's in some parts of the world however not those other demands fo chist sake.... salaries should also be increased for everyone and that's very important considering Nigeria's present economic state and this tallies with what NMA wrote

optm:
u do u do those surgical procedures u listed? do u do heart surgeries aswell? but u a med dr? why cant u ? this is a pointer that health care requires inputs frm different specialist/ specialty nd nt a one man show. not every pt dt comes fr eye care services require surgery or wld be needing the services of an ophthalmologist. i carry out an eye exam on pts, mk a diagnosis, treat or refer those dt wld b needing the services of an opthalmologist to dem just as u mk referrals to ur colleagues specialized in an area ur aint specialized in. so u c dt health care isnt a one man show but requires alot

lolz.... heart surgeries are done in Nigerian my dear, (also neurosurgery) a pivate hospital in abuja, lagos . However, the fact that they are not done doesn't mean that they will done by non doctors and that is a very unbrilliant analogy . Your second analogy is more intelligent but as you have said, I refer to senior colleagues, they are colleagues, you are not colleague my dear.. ophthalmologist will never refer any case to you and I hope you know what that means..

emmanuelex1:
Doctors are the most educated illiterates who does not know almost every profession has consultant. eg business consultant.

there are many consultants my dear even politics, music, environment. Just like the word doctor is used freely, if you go to the university, you will hear lecturers bearing the name doctor in all fields.they are borrowed words.

eleojo23:
Oh my God!
Consultant is an English word for Christ's sake!

na yoruba word before? abi doctor na hausa word!

optm:
you are ignorant as to who an optometrist is and what an optometrist does. the problem with most nigerian med drs is ignorance. i am an optometrist and i don't work in stores but in a clinic. i attend to a pt seeking eye care services from start to finish. as in the tradition of d med drs, u guys hv fought so hard to suppress optometrist in govt hospitals and hv most relegated to just refraction, refuse to hv optometry interns in govt hospitals wit the hlp of ur colleagues dt re CMD's, therez no career growth for those in govt practice cos dey ve been forced to b under ophthalmology department whereas optometry is an independent profession. guy use google and educate urself on who an optometrist is and wht dey are trained to do. there are also specialist areas in optometry and we hv consultant optometrist as well as u hv consultant meds

are you telling me you do surgery for retinal detachment, do u do glaucoma surgery, enviseration, or vitrorenal surgeries?? Please educate me.

eleojo23:
I see that these guys don't know what consultant means.
The don't know that the title 'consultant' is used even outside medical field.
The only consultant they know is all those consultant gynaecologist, consultant pediatrician etc and they think that any other health professional who becomes a consultant will take over their own role.
They don't know that everyone has his own specialty and that they can become consultant in their own field.

Which kain doctors be this wey no understand this simple thing sef?

someone finishes the PHD from a university calls himself a doctor as he has finished his doctorate degree..the world has come to accept this terms but they are all borrowed words from medicine so also is the word consultant.

positivethought:
No that's not what I'm saying,what I mean is that in a hospital setting especially big hospitals or any medical set up the pharmacy department should be headed by a pharmacist same case applies to the laboratory radiology n other departments,let the doctors head medical departments like gynecology obstetrics pediatric orthopedic n so on, it acceptable for the doctors to always head the hospital but the doctors should accept the headship of pharmacist also in a pharmaceutical set up n so on,but if a pharmacist establishes a hospital then can anyone stop him from heading it or vice versa?

the fault with this is that a laboratory scientist cannot make a diagnosis (trust me there are serious conditions that require the expertise of a doctor to diagnose ) a lab scientist is not trained enough to make diagnosis ...same for a radiographer etc.. for example optometrist own stores everywhere where they claim to treat eye conditions, but unfortunately, they can only cut you glass for refractive errors . They direct the patient tto go meet the ophthalmologist . There is no need duplicating profession. As it is everwhere in the world, if you want to make diagnosis, lead a department o hospital, go to the university, study medicine and surgery as same goes everywhere in the world, nigeria will not be different.

shullamite:
At least its clear where the problem in the health sector is coming from now. The doctors don't want other staff to enjoy a little increament of salary even after government has increased their slararies more than Three times in in four years. This is just a case of wickedness and man's inhumanity to man. The doctors are not the employer of labour but they are telling government what to do. It's a case of eating alone and wanting other people to die of hunger even though there is excess food to serve everybody. Let the world see how wicked the doctors are in Nigeria.

Let me tell you the truth early this year the government of Canada increased doctors salary but the doctors refused the increament and told the government to use the money to pay other health workers and improve the facilities in the hospitals for patients to enjoy. But in Nigeria the case is opposite.

please read number eight of the published article than spewing rubbish online.... No matter the number of Johesu, they will only achieve their demands when it tallies with international practices

stonemasonn:
a registered nurse of over 20 years experience who is a specialist in say oncology should earn much more than a fresh medical graduate.

Moreover before government sign any agreement with JOHESU, government should include licenses and examinations every two years for all JOHESU members. No exam no license, no license no job and no salary review.

ignorance is a disease, is the current practice not what you stated in your first paragraph

HtwoOw:
Maybe that's true


But i don't blame him


I blame the 16 year looters who couldn't build standard hospital befitting this nation for all those donkey years



I Salute those of you who used my posts to gather likes and those ones who insulted me with their post

You asked Buhari to build a hospital within 3 years, but i remember first year through the second was recession during which crude sold at $22/b there was Jonathan avengers causing havoc everywhere , You people just wont face reality Yes , allocated billions to aso clinic what if all he goes to UK to do is to see a Specialist that Nigeria has not produced yet


Continue your keyboard / online winning,

specialist that nigeria has not produced yet, your brain must be paining you..shior

Kleenatics:
I don't think JOHESU members are requesting to be placed on same salary scale with Doctors.

mister thinker, please go and read the demands and stop thinking.