Oga Uberness, I see you. I've not forgotten your request o.

kolnel:
@ brabus
Nice analysis
But don't you think the building is relatively small kind of ?

Yeah. But I think small is relative here depending on the owner.

If this is a second home, something like you want to have a crash pad in the city of choice, I think the size is not so bad. I'd rather design something cute like this for a senior citizen or a retiree with lot of outdoor living spaces than designing a 5 bedroom duplex which will become useless over the year.
I design and I build so I'm talking from experience.

If the owner is a newly married young couple, it'll be a perfect place to start a new life without a BIG budget. Much better than living in glorified block of flats called MTUs or Serviced Apartments. They can choose to upgrade the building or move from there into something bigger.

But in most cases, the reverse is the case. We want to build something that matches out newly attained status.

NextHome Blog: Why investing in commercial property may not be right for you? Part 1

When the economy is strong, the demand and the price of commercial real estate go up. People renting commercial property may choose to operate from home instead and close shop when the market is bad. But, even when the economy is doing great on a national scale, local economic changes (government policies) play their part as well.

Read more here:
http://nexthomedesigns.com/2016/03/13/why-commercial-property-may-not-be-right-for-you/

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Cost till date - N15.5m

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EgunMogaji:


Ill never fly on a local airline. I'll only fly in Nigerian airspace with certain international operators.

Why? #flynaijatogrownaira

@ Agarawu23,

I just finished from the church and decide to take a second look at stevLegend's building to see how 7.3m can possibly deliver such a beautiful structure.

Here's what I came up with:

The footprint
StevLegend's house is sitting on a very small footprint of 8 x 11.5m. That's less than 100sqm which makes the foundation very cheap.
One could have such a foundation with the DPC done for less than 1m (especially in a village).

The floor plan
Sir stevLegend's building has a very interesting small but cute rooms. With a living room, ante and visitors toilet not exceeding 35sqm altogether. All other rooms (likely 2 more) on the ground floor are either 10 x 10 or a configuration similar. I'm not expecting him to go over 2500 blocks for the ground floor. So he should be fine with max 750k for the ground floor block work/lintels and columns.

The Slab
Sir stevLegend's building do not have a full slab as can be seen in the curtain wall design which mean the living room is having a void section directly to the roof. This would reduce the slab area by 20%. I'm say 20% because of the addition of the 1m cantilever at the back of the building to increase the room sizes and make provision for the balcony.
I'll put another 1m on that.

The Roof and Tiles
The kingpost of sir stevLegend's building is around 3m and by my calculation he should have 230 - 250sqm of total roof area.
I dedicate another 1m into this. I assume he's buying stone-coated tiles at 2,000 per sqm and spent 500k on woodwork/labour

By the time we sum up everything above and others based on the dimension of the building and the location which is in the village. I think 7.3m is fair enough to deliver this build.

I don't think he'll put more than 500k on the fence.

So it's very possible!

cc: Hajji Mufutau55, stevLegend

_______
PS: You may actually not fall in love with the internal arrangement of the house because of circulation space. But with a good architect and good use of space. This could serve as a very beautiful and comfortable 2 bed duplex for a starter.

Photo credit: stevLegend

agarawu23:
Brabus,
I just hope the bro will give us break down of the cost cos I want to know where the magic is. Though floor plans may/might be different but the physical structure and the level of both buildings as seen won't make me build that of spyder for 7.3m IF the builder of the second building his the real owner (which I blv he won't manage materials to make profit).

Patiently waiting for the breakdown. But in the meantime, let's allocate 500k to each of the stages I highlighted above. We will still have over 7.5m

The carcass of the duplexes attached is 9m and 10.5m respectively (materials, labour and builders profit inclusive).

[size=14pt]Welcome to the Beginning of The End.[/size]

Now we are beginning to chase shadows instead of focusing on real issues such as revamping the collapsed economy, as well as harnessing financial resources to avert the impending collapse of Nigeria.

Maybe this is another way God wants to answer the prayers of some people.

@ StevLegend,

Hope this will help. Let me see how much resources was allocated to the following:

1. Foundation
2. Sand filling
3. DPC
4. Ground Floor Block Work
5. Columns, Lintels and Slab (Ground and Upper Floor)
6. Upper Floor Block Work
7. Parapet
8. Roofing Woodwork
9. Roofing Sheet
10. M & E
11. Plastering
12. Aluminum Windows
13. Iron Rails
14. Chambers
15. Fence

Leave out labour cost, I'll take it as 10% of the figure you get from the above.

#TeamDD

agarawu23:
@bolded, it means spyder's house isn't a low budget then. because when we talk about "low budget" house, I don't expect any additional thing that will cost more money.

I don't know if stevlegend will answer the questions.

I saw his comment here https://www.nairaland.com/2985716/how-build-6-bedroom-duplex/3

Low budget ends at final block work. Every other thing is based on your taste. One of those is the roof and the height.

@ stevLegend,

Congrats on your build. I and many others like me will like to know how you walked on water. Just show me the books. I don't need full details. I just need summaries. Hopefully we can learn some new tricks.

@ agarawu23

The difference could be seen in the following:

1. Roofing - the height of the kingpost will def increase spyder880's cost by nothing less than 500k if not more.

2. Floor plan - Internal partition of a house also determines the final cost. I'll love to compare both project based on the floor plan and not picture. One may have a void while the other have 2 staircases.

3. Location - Where both project are been built can also affect the cost.

4. Proper Accounting - Spyder880 showcased a house with detailed account (kobo-by-kobo) of how much was spent to the last kobo and we all see it. Maybe if you share at least breakdown of your friends 7.3m, we will be able to see how was able to walk on water.

Happy Sunday House!

EgunMogaji:


How do you handle toilet waste?

I've not done this but I know it'll be pretty easy to handle through reticulated sewerage system and anaerobic digestion.

A watertight version of the Biofil Digester (discussed here sometimes ago) system can be installed to feed on the poo while the reticulation system process the waste water for reuse.

Since it's a small community, they can choose to have their independent sewage network which can in turn be connected to a central sewage system in the city.

@ back2sender

I don’t know what makes you so stupid, but I must tell you whatever it is, it really works!

#HappyHour

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Donswampo:
hello all,how many plot of land are there in L×w of 400feet×405feet?

22+

Double post

EgunMogaji:


Pimping ain't easy yo

Man I got pimpin in my veins
Pimpin in my blood
Pimpin in my swag
Pimpin in my cup

Recognize I'm the man
I tried to tell em but they won't understand that Pimpin ain't easy

~ R Kelly

prince3342:
Thanks alot guys! My architect actually told me that I should prepare from N70k to 100k for the approval. I was trying to verify it in the house.

I will update you all as the update unveils.

Thanks once again! One love.

He's right.

back2sender:

Some of us grow up in the street so we know your type very well.

back2sender, I'm sorry I thought it unnecessary to dignify your comments with a response cos you're a common street guy.

I was going to give you a nasty look... But I see you already had one...

Enjoy your happy hour!

Btw, I was not a common street guy like you, while the Lekki road was been constructed I was rolling with Big Boys in 288B (if you ever know where that is).

PS: Never as an onlooker but a stakeholder. You want to know what it takes to bring Regus to Nigeria about 10 years ago. Ask me about that and not some "what killed bingo" questions? Thats for the street.

Do your DD! Dig me well

Egungun, this is how we roll now.

NL1960:


Ok. I don hear you.

Btw, was is that you did not do any or enough checks on the guy you gave Maverick money for his approval or was it Maverick that did not do enough checks?.

Opeyemi Sadipe till tomorrow is a staff of the Lagos State Planning Authority. He's at Ikota Office.
I dont just pick people on the road.

You can continue from where I stopped.

His former office (where we first met) was at the Old Liason office at VI before the Lagos State Model City Master Plan was unveiled and they were relocated to Ikota, Lagos. He was recommended to me by an Officer at Eti-Osa Local Government. I hope I've been able to help.

Next?

If you need his number, I can give you. But trust me, I won't do that. Just go and do your DD before you say I gave you a fake number. It won't cost you money.

44chux:


Happy hour used to be d time bars gave discounts on alcoholic beverages (bonanza) to encourage people to get high... until MTN Nigeria hijacked the term.

In d era of high call tariffs, MTN allowed free calls from 00h30 to 04h30 (called MTN happy hour AKA "midnight call" ). Less privileged boys used the talk time to practice toasting babes, while girls used the talk time to gossip boys & fashion. Hence it became synonymous with useless & senseless talk

You're right on the money.

NL1960:


Iam sure that before you built your chateau, you were in a rental property. Did you do any due diligence by way of looking at the structural drawings and others before you paid and packed in?. What of higher institution?. Did you get the structural documents and others before you enter the hostel you were saying or the off-campus accommodation if you were off campus. You are in Sagamu. Can you show us the stakeholders meeting you attended on the Lagos-Sagamu express road.

Lagos/Ibadan/Sagamu Express road was done by Julius Berger (Baba of Construction). They have their office at Sagamu Interchange and Equipment/Construction Yard 4km away. Meanwhile, the workers stays in the small city.

We knew what to expect from Julius Berger in terms of quality (so there's no need for background check) and funny enough I benefited largely from the scraped up asphalts from the road. The waterlogged part of the chateau was filled up with Lagos/Ibadan scraped up asphalt. In fact, I recommended it also to some of my friends building on Lagos/Ibadan expressway as at that time. Dem dey here dem no go fit talk (I mean the beneficiaries)

The rented apartment where I lived in Sagamu belongs to one of the richest in Remoland (who had over 50 buildings which none has failed structural integrity test) and you don't need a binocular to see the quality of work. The house was built in 1989 but far better than 2015 build of so many. I fit show picture sef if you want.

I didn't attend Julius Berger Stakeholders meeting because I was out of Sagamu when the project was awarded. But even though I wasn't around, I still benefited a bit.
The first job my dump truck did was supply of earth fills on that project before moving it to Lagos in January 2015.

You may want to come and check my backyard to confirm what I used to backfill it. Na Julius Berger deliver am.

Next?

Baba NL1960, pls don't ask me about my place of birth o cos I wouldn't know what to say. But what I do know is that the house where I celebrated my 1st birthday in Oke Bola, Ibadan is still standing strong till date. My church built over 4 decades ago has not failed structural integrity test. My primary school, secondary school .... Someone must have done DD on those because it doesn't cost him anything to do so.

gabbytabby:
No clue here about Ogun.

Yes because everybody just dey build without approval.

mufutau55:

Sorry o. I no sabi this one too o. I hope those who have the knowledge in this will let us know.
@Brabus
@BrabusNG
Please come tell or clarify the above o..
Hajji M.

@ OP, tell your architect to visit the Town Planning Office in Mowe for clarification. They have their office inside the Road Safety office in Mowe.

If it's not more than a bungalow on a plot of land, you should prepare like 100k

Pick up a form from the office for just N1,500

erico2k2:

The 50 deep pile is the actual foundation. That defeats your argument of regarding the depth of foundation

Ok. So what's the actual depth sir? 3 miles or what?

It's happy hour you know.

Read more here:
http://www.aboutcivil.org/burj-khalifa-design-construction-structural-details.html

And here for the geotechnical infos:
http://www.geomarc.it/Poulos_&_Bunce_2008.pdf

@ NL1960,

There's no point saying too much here. I'll suggest you visit LCC office and ask question about the kick off of the project and how they met stiff resistance from the residents at the inception.

As for the stakeholders meeting, I was in the IT then (working on The Palms, Lekki) and we are always connected with BIG projects. So, LCC was something on mind then. Looking at what we can do together so we were at the meeting to see what's on the blueprint and things that we can do for the concessionaire. I can tell over and over again. LCC never worked in isolation and they were very transparent.

Lot of awareness were created especially on meeting days. Lots of flyers and signs were shared during the construction. And I can make bold statement that we saw the blueprint frm the inception

For those who didn't know, they'll assume they shove Lekki Toll road down our throat. No! We were carried along.

@ NL1960

At the Stakeholders Meeting, we discussed how much will be paid at the tolls. And that prompted the installation of vehicle density sensors at Law School (can't remember the year again) to count the numbers of cars that go in and out of VI.

Bros, make I go on.

NL1960:


Iam sure Brabus drives on the Lekki-Ajah road built by LCC every almost everyday and tolls. Can he tell us if he did a due diligence on it as a user of the road and if he was visiting the road during the construction period. In addition, has he also gone through all the design document of the road for him to know if they were followed.

Yes, I did and the few who were always present at the LCC stakeholders meetings when the road design was been discussed knew people were carried along.

Hope you're aware sir that residents kicked against the fence proposal, period of concession and the toll gates. It was in the meetings that the alternative routes were discussed. Stakeholders insist on no toll until alternative routes are built which led to the constitution of City of David road. If I can check my files, I can still come up with some documents.

Anyone who thinks I'm cooking up a story should say so.

LCC didn't work in isolation.


https://www.nairaland.com/255605/stakeholders-govt-differ-toll-collection

Excuzeme:


That particular drink that you seem to like: Don Moen or what do you call it!
Green Tea is okay for me. With Ice please

Egungun can never be a Santa. His tongue is too sharp! All the children will die of "fear".


BTW: What do you actually mean by 'Happy Hour'? Fun time? Silly Time? Anger Period? Just curious nii

TGIF all the same

No na Don Corleone.

_____
Happy hour is the time to loosen up, throw jabs and learn new punch lines. Fun time, silly time...

Excuzeme:


Haa Brabus!

Standing inside Aeroplane ke?!

You no go kill persin!

41 sitting, 99 Standing...suffering and Smiling - Abami Eda.


BTW: I have actually entered a BA flight to London at MMA and the number of passengers was more than the number of available seats! (more than one person on one seat!)

We got to know that it was the Nigerian BA staff that were doing Mago-Mago with tickets, hoping somebody will not show up.

Bad-Azz people!

You never see lapping for airplane. I hope you won't be shocked to hear that they jumpstart some aircraft here.