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Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 5:39pm On Sep 06, 2012
You have not answered the question? Okay an illustration,You are a Project Manager and you have your plans. You need to execute them with Resources, Tools and equipment. You were asked, what type of resources do you need and where will you get them from.
You answered and said from my PLAN. The human resources exist in my plan and I will source for him in my plan. They have never existed before they only exist in my plan.
If you are a client will you give the Job to me?

SO from your BIBLE any revision and Version. Where was JESUS and What was He doing before GOD's and doing GOD's PLAN.

And who said this words:

Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 5:32pm On Sep 06, 2012
frosbel: You are the one Sir, dancing in circles with your ambiguous questions.


Again , before manifestation , Jesus Christ existed in the plan of God for our salvation, he did not exist as an independent person or a second member of the trinity.
As an Independent person..... I cant laugh again oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Independent national electorial commission. It was in your Bible that He existed as an Independent official. O God have mercy. Look at yourself just listen to what is coming out from you. This is heresy. I know you can't answer that. You cant
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 5:24pm On Sep 06, 2012
frosbel: Jesus Christ as a Person in bodily form did not exist before his manifestation as the Son of GOD.
Then he existed as what? Or was created from what to put it in simple form or what was him beform His manifestation? We have not infact answered the first question but still dancing in cycle.
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 5:20pm On Sep 06, 2012
frosbel: Jesus Christ did not exist as a Man but as a Plan in the mind of GOD through the promise of his WORD , for the salvation of Mankind.

At the right time, this WORD was made flesh and the promise fulfilled.
Okay i know as a plan, where was HE and what was He doing before the Plan was to be executed? I need you to straightened this question before we move to the next one please
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 5:15pm On Sep 06, 2012
frosbel: "He was chosen before the creation of the world , but was revealed in these last times for your sake." - 1 Peter 1:20

God through his WORD had chosen Christ for our salvation even more he came in person to die for our sins.


So before Abraham I am , is a valid representation of fact. And by the way God's name is not I AM , it is Yahweh.


Just as God's word says he chose us before the foundation of the world.


"For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love" - Ephesians 1:4
You have not answered my question, He existed as what?
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 5:19pm On Sep 05, 2012
Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 5:07pm On Sep 05, 2012
frosbel: The argument is made that because Jesus was “before” Abraham, Jesus must have been God. There is no question that Jesus figuratively “existed” in Abraham’s time. However, he did not actually physically exist as a person; rather he “existed” in the mind of God as God’s plan for the redemption of man. A careful reading of the context of the verse shows that Jesus was speaking of “existing” in God’s foreknowledge.


Another example


Revelation 13:8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast -- all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world. (NIV)

1 Peter 1:18-20 For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. 20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. (NIV)
What do you mean as he existed in the mind of God? And as what?
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 4:28pm On Sep 05, 2012
John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

If he was 100% man then how come he existed before abraham that was long dead before his arrival.
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 3:37pm On Sep 05, 2012
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frosbel: So when you cannot argue the points case by case , you rush off to a site or any site for that matter to look for an article that will label him as a false prophet huh

Why do you find it so hard to argue your case point by point backed up by scripture, why must you always reply on others through cartoons, pictures and articles to do your thinking for you ?

Let me help you a little bit.

Remember God was in Christ reconciling the world back to himself.

"that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation." - 2 Corinthians 5:19

Jesus Christ was 100% full man and not GOD
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Yahweh cannot be tempted, Yahweh cannot die, Yahweh does not say that the father is greater than he, Yahweh does not eat, drink or sleep.

Mate you are jealously holding unto false doctrine.

One thing I do and which God has blessed me with is to examine all church doctrine in the light of scripture.

During this process I have found out that what the majority of apostate christianity believe in largley unscriptural , such as :

1. Immortal Soul
2. Eternal Hell
3. souls in heaven or hell at death
4. Trinity
5. Tithing
6. rapture

etc etc

Read your bible and humbly ask God for wisdom, that is what I do almost everyday and the traditions of men have been totally destroyed from before my very eyes, praise be to Yahweh our eternal father, saviour and redeemer.
With this comment of yours I can say 2 tim 3:15
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 3:27pm On Sep 05, 2012
Fellow nobody has divided God in 3 but only you. God is God and can exhibit Himself in any form beyond human understanding and comprehension. You can't just use human knowlegde to explain spiritual things.You can not say God can't come in the form of a Man to achieve His aim as recorded in the sciptures, and also in the human form exhibit all form of human
1 corthin 2:10-15

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 2:59pm On Sep 05, 2012
You call it anyname, trinity or not. The facts still remains as, God came down in Human form- a mystery you can not unravel, (beyond science it was not artificail insemination or tube inplant), choose to pray as a man- a mystery you can not unravel by human knowledge,and choose to die and ressurect- a mystery science and logic will instead unravel will deniel.
All this mysteries can only be explained and thought by the spirit of God
Christianity EtcRe: The Wonderful Truth Of The Trinity by brainpulse: 2:09pm On Sep 05, 2012
@ Frosbel,

I always thought you are a real christian but didnt know you are not one at all, from your responses.

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."(1 Timothy 3:16)

"God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit." "The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" (John 1:14), and was "declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness" (Romans 1:4).

Why did the bible refered to the "The mystery of godliness"- The mystery word what does it trying to explain?
Who is the God that became flesh?
Who was the one that preached to the Gentiles?

When christians begin to say King james version or other version is incorrect. Know for sure and authoritatively they dont have the indwelling of the holyspirit and does not depend on Him for inspiration and teaching of the wordsGod but they are of the letters and depend solely on human thoughts and logical interpretations.
And never say the Bible was given by Roman catholic. It seems your conversion is questionable .
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Descend Into Hell? by brainpulse: 4:57pm On Aug 28, 2012
Christianity EtcRe: Dose This Mean Jesus Christ Won't Take Muslims Along To Heaven? by brainpulse: 2:16pm On Aug 18, 2012
FMK: you Xcians and muslims always talk about heaven just tell me at what part of the universe that heaven is situated wink
What country do you come from in your mother's womb? sorry to be sarcastic
Christianity EtcRe: Exposed; Jesus Christ, The Greatest Lie Ever Sold by brainpulse: 4:51pm On Aug 17, 2012
Whaaaooooo if this lies is working for me I will rather stick to the lies rather than the truth told by a liar that hasnt worked.
PoliticsRe: LASTMA Official's Death: Yinka Johnson (The Banker) Released by brainpulse: 4:22pm On Aug 14, 2012
Sisi_Kill: Wait a sec. . .who took the pictures??! huh

I mean someone just happened to take a picture of the woman with the deceased moments before he became deceased??!

Hmmmmm, something ain't right.https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/23.gif
Hmmn! could there be a conspiracy theorem of someone trying to set a murder up against the slained man?
PoliticsRe: LASTMA Official's Death: Yinka Johnson (The Banker) Released by brainpulse: 4:19pm On Aug 14, 2012
Thank God for her, this is the way innocent people are robed in unjustly in this nation. This is to point out again that Lasma is a den of untrustworthy and questionable people
Foreign AffairsRe: Children Kidnapped,Chained, & Trained To Become Suicide Bombers by brainpulse: 12:06pm On Aug 14, 2012
lacasa: ​ so​ the west says.


Mtcheeeeu!!

Afterall, they r d same people who go arnd giving them these weapons n bombs ϯo kill people

Who is funding syrian, somalian, chechnian rebels, bokoharam etchuh Same west.

They funded ojukwu as ϯo fight Nigeria as well.

They Say one thing anϑ practice another.

Even the Boko nonsense in nigeria, tђere is suspicion they αve a hand in it.

So​, they can all go ϯo hell fσr all i care
If you dont have something reasonable to comment just read and close.
The blaming game you played since 1960s and 1970s is what you are still playing.
The west this and that..............they are responsible for your drainage problem in your house too.
Christianity EtcRe: GRACE: Why Works? Let Us Break Bread. by brainpulse: 12:39pm On Aug 09, 2012
Mr_Anony: 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1Cor 3:13-15

Basically, The question presented here is if we are saved by God's grace, why then are our works tested at all. Why are we rewarded for works too. Shouldn't grace just be the common denominator irrespective of works?

My offhanded explanation is that God is madly in love with us so that even after He gives us grace we don't deserve, He rewards us for works on top.
Crazy Crazy Love by a Crazy Crazy God. God is just too much.

(blasphemy alert: please note that 'crazy' here is used in a good way)

Now that I have shown my excitement, let us now seriously use the scripture to ponder over it. I await your insights on the matter.

P/s: The Bible is the final authority on this Issue.
I think i like this, but I believe for us to have an indepth understanding we need to probe further into the;

1. The origin of Grace
2. The need of man for Grace
3. The Workings, cost and advantage of Grace
4. The Origin of works
5. The working of Works before Grace
6. The limitation of Works
7. Why we need Grace than works, or do we need the two together, or Can Grace absolutely take the place of Works?

This is the way I enjoy studying the Word of God, and i will be privilegde to learn from the carriers of God's word

Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is Mary(mother Of Jesus) Report In The Bible? by brainpulse: 7:20am On Aug 09, 2012
tintingz: My topic is not abt Mary(as) history I mean the report of Jesus(as) life time his gospel written by Mary. . .simple
You should also ask for Joseph's, pilate, thomas, Bartholomew, Judas, simon, john the baptist etc writings.
IslamRe: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 5:03pm On Aug 08, 2012
brainpulse: I dont believe my post can be hidden even when it has no word of hate and harm. Whao
What i said was that we dont have a problem with you saying Jesus is not God but let always try to tolerate each other and not result in killing one another if there are issues of dissagrements. And you deleted the post. This is a display of highest hypocrite.
IslamRe: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 5:02pm On Aug 08, 2012
What i said was that we dont have a problem with you saying Jesus is not God but let always try to tolerate each other and not result in killing one another if there are issues of dissagrements. And you deleted the post. This is a display of highest hypocrite.
IslamRe: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 4:57pm On Aug 08, 2012
I dont believe my post can be hidden even when it has no word of hate and harm. Whao
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is Mary(mother Of Jesus) Report In The Bible? by brainpulse: 4:34pm On Aug 08, 2012
tintingz: good answer bro. . .simple this is d confirm answer i read so far in dis thread. . .others are just bushing around
This answer has shown that you absolutely want to pitch your tent in the camp of liars and you beliieve so much in what your ears want to hear even when they are far from the truth. Listen to this comment

Ubenedictus:
maybe she wasnt educated or she considerd herself too humble to speak, but im very sure that there are no writtings of mary.
Peace
HE SAID "MAY BE"- MEANING HE IS NOT SURE BUT HE SUGGESTED, IN HIS OWN OPINION.

And you went on to accept it. It is unfortunate, you can't learn with this actitude. And you will be fed with lies easily through what you want to hear.

So enjoy yourself bro with the response given to you
IslamRe: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 4:23pm On Aug 08, 2012
quote author=amunites19Propher Muhammad was forced fight and he fougth 2 depends himself; when he started preaching his enemeis were very wicked to him and his followers there was a time he has to send his followers to Africa because they could not show themselves as muslims letter he decided to move to another town but do you known that these people still flow him to again want 2 fight him, so what do you want him to do?[/quote]^^^ huh huh
IslamRe: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brainpulse: 4:07pm On Aug 08, 2012
LagosShia: boko haram have killed more muslims and northerners than christians and southerners.

someone is busy cutting himself and you are busy crying from the wound.are you for real?

you only have the right to have fear that they may bring their bloodshed down south and seek ways to stop that.

but as usual,it is all about christian missionary propaganda to win souls against Islam even if that means trading the blood of innocent christians up north who are victims of boko haram terrorism.
You know yourself that what you wrote down are untrue and full of lies. If you dont have family members up north then some people are telling you lies. At least you have your media houses too, they report the same inhuman killings of the islamist fundamentalist. And they also come out to say they are killing for Allah, that they were sent by him.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is Mary(mother Of Jesus) Report In The Bible? by brainpulse: 4:58pm On Aug 07, 2012
^^ Thanks Bro the Bible is never an history book centred on some Men, but Gods words,plans and thoughts for us to redeem us back to our rightful position after the fall of Adam & Eve. The plan of salvation, salvation through grace, holiness and righteousness, His show of love and passion, His mightiness, fulfilling His will and mandate and revelation of things to come etc.

2 Timothy 3 :16

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is Mary(mother Of Jesus) Report In The Bible? by brainpulse: 4:41pm On Aug 07, 2012
tintingz: Through out the bible thier's no where God said "i am God i have come to earth to give you this message" if their is kindly show me. . .God only appears in vision, dreams or make something speak for communicating just like Mose and the burning tree where God appears to Moses in a tree and told him to off his sandals before he come closer, did Mose look into the burning tree? NO! he can't "no one has seen God even the son and angels have not" this is what Jesus said funny enough the bible recorded Jacob wrestle with God? What a blasphemy?. . .if your God that you serve is the pics of an european blue eye blund hair of Jesus pic am sorry that is not God almighty. . .
now you want tell me that if i am a king of a kingdom and my people call me my lord my lord! Those that mean i'm God or qualify to be God? The kings of the ancients and present who people call my lord are the God. . .a judge in a supreme high court we call my lord in yoruba oluwa'mi are they God. . .Lord is used for someone in high position, a king, supreme person in power, a master or teacher etc.
in Islam their many roles of spirit i will give you the main three. . .
1. The spirit in God: thats God himself
2. The spirit of God: this the spirit God breath into Adam, it's the spirit in us the soul. . .the spirit that God put into Mary's(as) womb and he said BE and it is, Jesus(as) was born.
3. The spirit from God: this are the angels they guide us, protect us, reveal things of the past or things to come, make things possible for ur(miracles), they write down our deeds on earth and take our souls back to God when death approach.
Asfar this spirits are from God they are all Holyspirits. . .Now can you answer me is the bible not meant for christians and not for non-christians?, what about if someone wants to convert to christianity and need to read the bible to know God but does'nt have the holyspirit in him.
read the roles of spirit i stated above.
I will show you....Exodus 33:11 (Moses)The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent.-NIV

Gen 18:1 ( Abraham)And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

Read what you wrote here agaist God, you just said God is not powerful to do all that. I just showed you and you cant say a thing on that again.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is Mary(mother Of Jesus) Report In The Bible? by brainpulse: 4:23pm On Aug 07, 2012
tintingz: u mean spirits are gramatical? You did'nt answer my question what is a soul and a spirit?
sorry i don't know that jehova is a bird dove that came down to jehovah on earth baptized by john while another jehova is still in heaven talking to jehovah on earth and there came a jehova in bird form flying(pure nonsense!)
ofcuz they are different since jehova is a dove born by a woman and was cruxified like a chicken. . .the God i serve can't be killd he's almighty.
no argument in this your god is multiple 1000 being. . .the God i serve is ONE God
1. Don’t be sarcastic you know you were wrong on the prepositions you used and were fallacies you know it. The error is not about the spirit but the wrong use and the meaning you pointed out are very wrong. Learn and Learn, don’t sound dumb outside thinking you are making sense bro. At least you understand those meaning I pointed out to you.

2. Soul and a spirit- Although they are used interchangeably but are not the same thing.

Your Soul is the life in you, its gives your body the ability to live, feel and think and do so many things. Your Spirit perceives spiritual things. It serves as the interface between the Physical realm and the spiritual realm. Once you die, your soul dies your spirit leaves on. With your soul you are able to put every spiritual communication to physical understanding and manifestation. Once your Soul leaves your body, you are dead (that means you no longer feel, think and can do physical things). Your spirit man is then released to give account of everything done, both secrete and unsecrete ( your soul has limit per time and space but our spirit’s only limit is the body). The Spirit is that part of you we call or the House where the conscience stays and lives. Our spirit gives us the consciousness of God whether we believe He is God or not. The soul’s relationship with the blood; I will discuss that with you later.
I will tell you the reason why we are different from the animals per the spirit and soul. I believe you should know by my explanation.

3. Look just take your calm I told you there are some hidden secrete( Mystery) that needs to be reveal to us by God. We dont know all of God because He his bigger than our thoughts and immagination. If you know everything about God then you are God and He is longer God, so the origin of all spirit entity and workings are only revealed to man in parts not in total. So it is an insult to God if you keep on saying God can not do this, God can not do that. If God decides to do anything who can question Him? Not you not me. So cut this insoltive way of reply, I told you Understanding is from God and He giveth to man of humility and soberness. What is happening in the spiritual realm do you Know? Your dont know, unless seek him in truth.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is Mary(mother Of Jesus) Report In The Bible? by brainpulse: 8:01am On Aug 07, 2012
tintingz: ^^^ LOL. . . now i see you don't know anything ok let me break it down to your own level:
1. I have "spirit in God" in me that simply means i have God in me i am God, God is a spirit already he's inside me. I am not God oh just to show you example grin
This is a grammatical error of the highest order. What part of tense is that I see you dont want to learn.
(I have spirit in God in me) My brother is very very wrong there is nothing like that. It is " I have the spirit of God in me".

tintingz: ^^^ 2. I have "spirit from God" in me this not mean God himself. . .the dove a spirit from God came down from heaven to Jesus while God is still in heaven talking "my belovd son" those this mean the dove is God? Angel Gabriel appeard to Mary is Gabriel not a spirit from God? Jesus told his disciple "i will tell my father to send another spirit" is this spirit God himself?grin
I have the spirit from God... means God sent out a sprit which can mean any spirit from Him. And the quotation is and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased." luke 3:32
Matthew 3:16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him.
It came like a Dove its not that it is a dove... Understand metaphor in english. ANd please your aLLAH IS DIFFERENT FROM MY gOD, THIS IS THE 1000 TIMES I WILL BE TELLING YOU. He can have 10000 spirits, that is why he is different from man and you can not understand his ways please read 1 Corth 2:2-9.

tintingz: ^^^ I have "spirit of God" this is the spirit God fashiond in (Adam)us a breath of God that become a soul those this means i and Adam are gods or every human are gods? since we have his spirit in us grin
Its "I have the Spirit of God" is same as the point 1. Know your english and Preposition.

The Holy spirit can mean anything in Islam I dont care, and you can give Him any name. But surely I know that itd not the one in me and in the Bible.

tintingz: ^^^you quoted Moses see God face to face if so why did he heard God voice like thunder
“The Sound, like trumpets, grew louder; when Moses spoke, God answered him with a Voice like thunder.”Exod 19:19"
i will let you know that Moses didn't see God face to face or other prophets in OT bible. . .While on Mt. Sinai Moses asked God, "Show me thy glory. And (God) said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee...and he said, Thou canst not see my face; for man shall not see me and live...and thou shalt see my back: but my face shall not be seen" (Ex. 33:18-23). When God spoke to Moses "face to face" He spoke as "a man unto his friend," i.e., familiarly (Ex. 33:11). When Moses spoke of "Jehovah (being) seen face to face" by the Hebrews, he explains, "and thy cloud standeth over them, and thou goest before them, in a pillar of fire by night" (Num. 14:14). What they saw was the pillar of fire and the cloud, not the Spirit presence of Jehovah. Since no two passages of Scripture, if correctly understood, will contradict each other, we must conclude that when the Bible speaks of people seeing God, they did not look upon his pure essence of deity. That man cannot do and live. We are told that God is a Spirit (John 4:24) and thus invisible (I Tim. 1:17). What these people saw was either 1). A vision or dream of God (Isaiah and Daniel) or 2). A theophany (a divine manifestation), that is God’s special angel, the one known as the Word, took the appearance of a man and came down to interact with His people. As sinful mortals we cannot look upon the pure deity of our Creator and live, thus he mercifully does not provide us that opportunity.
Jews don't believe in trinity it's not mention in OT bible if you think trinity is your defination of holyspirit am sorry it's false a paganism belief even NT bible never mention trinity. Let me stop here and wait for your reply.grin
But you said God has never came down to earth before please read your post again and again. At least Moses saw the back of God...so the back of God is different from the back from God, the back in God...so funny

And God visited Abraham........or you didnt google that one too.

You kept on gong round and round and shooting yourself. SO from the bible fish out where the Holy spirit was refered to as Angel Gabriel.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is Mary(mother Of Jesus) Report In The Bible? by brainpulse: 4:37pm On Aug 06, 2012
3. Ahhhh the spirit from God, of God, in God is laughable. WHo is your english teaher?

The spirit in God: thats God himself= The spirit of God (at least He came from God and you can not give what you dont have or yours, your composition is part of you, it comes from you)
and that is the reason we christians says Jesus is God : the spirit from God is God himself sebi you said God is spirit.=The spirit from God ( so can you see where the Quran is telling you lies that all this are not same. The spirit from God is what the Bible refers to as God,SO God Omnipresent and Omniscience attributes gives Him the will to do this and no man can question and fathom how He does that; that is why is Name is Almighty GOD that we dont know His begining and ending.

2. Why did he create the Angels(holyspirit

The holyspirit is not an angel. You are getting yourself confuse, this is not algebrae at all: Okay Allah tells you that then fine to you, But in the bible the Holysprit is the spirit of God and different form the Angels.(can we open another thread for this i will like pto explain more with biblical references). Thanks.

3.The roles of Angels God created. The role of an Angel is different to the role os the spirit of God. We have angels that sing Hosanna to God, we have angels that fights battle and we have somne that that delivers good will message etc. The role of the Holy spirit is spelt out in the bible also; I will give bible reference if you will agree with them). Thanks

4.Through out the bible thier's no where God said "i am God i have come to earth to give you this message" if their is kindly show me. . .God only appears in vision, dreams or make something speak for communicating just like Mose and the burning tree where God appears to Moses in a tree and told him to off his sandals before he come closer, did Mose look into the burning tree? NO! he can't "no one has seen God even the son and angels have not" this is what Jesus said funny enough the bible recorded Jacob wrestle with God? What a blasphemy?. . .if your God that you serve is the pics of an european blue eye blund hair of Jesus pic am sorry that is not God almighty. . .
now you want tell me that if i am a king of a kingdom and my people call me my lord my lord! Those that mean i'm God or qualify to be God? The kings of the ancients and present who people call my lord are the God. . .a judge in a supreme high court we call my lord in yoruba oluwa'mi are they God. . .Lord is used for someone in high position, a king, supreme person in power, a master or teacher etc.
in Islam their many roles of spirit i will give you the main three. . .[/b]
tintingz: so mr. Can you show me where i stated that God can't appear anywhere at dsame time?. . .i said "God can't send himself message or an errand" now can you tell me:
1. The roles of Angels God created.

2. Why did he create the Angels(holyspirit)
3. What is their puporse of their creation, their work/duties on we humans.
Through out the bible thier's no where God said "i am God i have come to earth to give you this message" if their is kindly show me. . .God only appears in vision, dreams or make something speak for communicating just like Mose and the burning tree where God appears to Moses in a tree and told him to off his sandals before he come closer, did Mose look into the burning tree? NO! he can't "no one has seen God even the son and angels have not" this is what Jesus said funny enough the bible recorded Jacob wrestle with God? What a blasphemy?. . .if your God that you serve is the pics of an european blue eye blund hair of Jesus pic am sorry that is not God almighty. . .
now you want tell me that if i am a king of a kingdom and my people call me my lord my lord! Those that mean i'm God or qualify to be God? The kings of the ancients and present who people call my lord are the God. . .a judge in a supreme high court we call my lord in yoruba oluwa'mi are they God. . .Lord is used for someone in high position, a king, supreme person in power, a master or teacher etc.
in Islam their many roles of spirit i will give you the main three. . .
1. The spirit in God: thats God himself
2. The spirit of God: this the spirit God breath into Adam, it's the spirit in us the soul. . .the spirit that God put into Mary's(as) womb and he said BE and it is, Jesus(as) was born.
3. The spirit from God: this are the angels they guide us, protect us, reveal things of the past or things to come, make things possible for ur(miracles), they write down our deeds on earth and take our souls back to God when death approach.
Asfar this spirits are from God they are all Holyspirits. . .Now can you answer me is the bible not meant for christians and not for non-christians?, what about if someone wants to convert to christianity and need to read the bible to know God but does'nt have the holyspirit in him.
read the roles of spirit i stated above.
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3. Ahhhh the spirit from God, of God, in God is laughable. WHo is your english teaher?

The spirit in God: thats God himself (your spirit is your person that can not be seen by the physical eyes)= The spirit of God (at least He came from God and you can not give what you dont have or yours, your composition is part of you, it comes from you)
and that is the reason we christians says Jesus is God : the spirit from God is God himself sebi you said God is spirit.=The spirit from God ( so can you see where the Quran is telling you lies that all this are not same. The spirit from God is what the Bible refers to as God,SO God Omnipresent and Omniscience attributes gives Him the will to do this and no man can question and fathom how He does that; that is why is Name is Almighty GOD that we dont know His begining and ending.

2. Why did he create the Angels(holyspirit

The holyspirit is not an angel. You are getting yourself confuse, this is not algebrae at all: Okay Allah tells you that then fine to you, But in the bible the Holysprit is the spirit of God and different form the Angels.(can we open another thread for this i will like pto explain more with biblical references). Thanks.

3.The roles of Angels God created. The role of an Angel is different to the role os the spirit of God. We have angels that sing Hosanna to God, we have angels that fights battle and we have somne that that delivers good will message etc. The role of the Holy spirit is spelt out in the bible also; I will give bible reference if you will agree with them). Thanks

4.Through out the bible thier's no where God said "i am God i have come to earth to give you this message" if their is kindly show me. . .God only appears in vision, dreams or make something speak for communicating just like Mose and the burning tree where God appears to Moses in a tree and told him to off his sandals before he come closer, did Mose look into the burning tree? NO! he can't "no one has seen God even the son and angels have not" this is what Jesus said funny enough the bible recorded Jacob wrestle with God? What a blasphemy?. . .if your God that you serve is the pics of an european blue eye blund hair of Jesus pic am sorry that is not God almighty. . .
now you want tell me that if i am a king of a kingdom and my people call me my lord my lord! Those that mean i'm God or qualify to be God? The kings of the ancients and present who people call my lord are the God. . .a judge in a supreme high court we call my lord in yoruba oluwa'mi are they God. . .Lord is used for someone in high position, a king, supreme person in power, a master or teacher etc.
in Islam their many roles of spirit i will give you the main three. . .

I will show you....Exodus 33:11 (Moses)The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent.-NIV

Gen 18:1 ( Abraham)And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

I think one of your problem is saying God is an almighty God and still wanting to say this is what God can do and can not do.
If you say God can not come down from heaven - then you have just place a limit on him then he is no longer an almighty God. What made him the almighty God is that He can do anything beyond human comprehension and thinking. He is the Pillar that carries the whole world that is why we can not question him at all and we christian believes hE CAN NO ANY AND EVERYTHING as He desires. thanks- sorry no time to edit

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