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logicboy: huh?


The bible is illogical and I use it to show why christians do illogical things. Is that too much for you to process?

Fallacy, because you never understood it that is the reason why I pointed that out in the morphology of words and interpretation.

Destroy Religion totally, people will still steal, kill and destroy. You cant take that away from man that is what you don't understand. A child that don't know how to read nor write will tell lies even without the parents teaching him/her. Its in the nature of man, if you don't know, know it now. The nature of man wants and continues to want, and if he can't get will think and strategize ways to get than immoral thoughts get to him and actions follows. A child does not need to read before telling lies or taking his friend's toys. He doesn't learn it, its the genetic build up of man because of the nature to commit sin.

logicboy:


To show that it is illogical and contradictory?

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So U use what you blieve is illogical and contradictory to support your claims is unblievable.

logicboy: Clearly, a motive or insanity.


Atheism has no guidelines

So thank you, everyone that kills has a motive. Its the alibi that is different. The lord says thou shall not Kill, people like you having different motives and opinion to support their actions goes to the bible takes a portion mis-inteprete it that perpetuate evil. So your argument is totally illogical

logicboy: The bible is illogical and contradictory

Lets start.

So why quoting it to support your point?

So when an atheist kills, what had prompted him to kill if he has no religion? Every one that does evil always hide under one excuse or the other.
I don't want to start quoting the bible with you, I have being avoiding it since you said you don't believe in it. But If you want us to do that with logical teachings and interpretation then lets start that? The problem is that you wont still accept the right interpretations.

logicboy:


The religious books are bad. It is the religion that is mostly to blame, not the people. Get rid of the religion not the people

Okay, since you said God doesn't not exist, then from your inference people were the one that wrote these books, and people makes the religion. I believe you have studied logic and you should understand that people are responsible for what they believe and the action they take. In Morphology of words and information If 3 people read a sentence they both have different opinions and suggestion to what they have read, and this forms their life.

logicboy: All christians are not bad, all athiests are not bad. However, the 3 main religions are consistently evil towards unbelievers






Lol. Theocracy is always bad. The bible/koran/talmud are always homophobic and intolerant towards unbelievers. The 3 major religions are consistently evil in theory.

Then attack the people behind it. Kill the diseases not the symptom. If symptom persist see your physician.

All Christians are not bad, all athiests are not bad. However, the 3 main religions are consistently evil towards unbelievers

Then the problem is not the religion the problem is with the people practicing it.

lekkie073: Ancient documents dont come in multiple copies.....pls try to google d epic of gilgamesh in order to get my point.

Why don't they come with multiple copies to protect Plagiarism that means the epic of Gilgamesh might have being altered even before Moses did.

Then it shouldn't have being kept in the library.How did you know that the writer's writing were the truth of the happenings then?

@boy

Better put a "world without human being". Do all atheist do good, Do all atheist do bad?

logicboy: God doesnt exist. You are confused

Then why are you so bothered and disturbed on something you believed doesn't exist.

Logic Mind: does a cactus have a brain or a heart or do you think plants are not alive?

Does being an atheist drain you of logical reasoning and emotions?
We are talking of human being you are talking of plants.

Does a foetus has a heart, does it has a brain ( no matter how small) and blood?

These are part of what forms a life.

lekkie073: the rain poured for forty days and the whole earth was covered with water! It can be argued that the whole world was not known then since america as a continent was discovered circa1492. This makes the story of the flood doubtful. The flood may have actually covered the entire mesopotamia where naoh lived. Another point to note is that Moses wrote about the flood. His source? Christians will say God revealed to him....his actual source was the royal egyptian library which moses was opportuned to have access to. Moses goingthrough the library came across the story of the flood in a scroll titled 'the epic of gilgamesh' which was the oldest known document that made reference to a great flood encompassing the whole mesopotamia. Moses doctored this document and rewrote it since no plagiarist laws formally existed those days.

What happened to the original copy since it was a library and library keeps more than one copies? Who was the writer of the epic of Gilgamesh? How did you know that the writer's writing were the truth of the happenings?

@poweredcom

Man chooses the side of history he wishes to believe in. Histories were read by men because they were written by men. So you choose the one that suits you and not condemn the one that you feel that does not go well with you as you were not there when these men were writing their stories

@poweredcom

Man chooses the side of history he wishes to believe in. Histories are read by man because they were written by man. So you choose the one that suits you and not condemn the one that you feel its wrong as you were not there when these man were writing there stories

Heaven is throwing stones at us for crimes against humanity . And also giving us ice blocks to preserve our foods because of light problems

Only in advanced and civilized countries will see people indicted in fraud and scam resigning their appointments for independent and transparent investigation and trail, but in Nigeria they will be given an honorary award and appointment and we say Transparent International is wrong.

We are at cross road in the history of this nation where the tunnel has no end and the hope of seeing the light is like a candle stick lite under the ocean. What has brought us here? Why are we here? Why are we comfortable in this state of pendulum swinging forth and back without progress. Our leaders preach and teaches us to make sacrifices that has sweated pains, anguish and blood from us while they sit stylishly and comfortably eating the seed, grain and all the harvest meant for children, laborers et al. Some still make excuses for the inadequacies of our government despite not showing remorse at all. Ah! I shed tears for this sinking giant that was once the boost of many like the great titanic. Goodluck!, Goodluck!!, Goodluck!!!. Are you a curse or a blessing? Are you a canker-worm or fertilizer? Are you the rain or drought that has brought tears to every homes?

Light
Transportation
Agriculture
Finance
Road/infrastructure/ ammenities were those we only enjoy when reading them on the pages of foreign magazines. Our children has accepted Nigeria's failure as a normal thing in life. What a pathetic story of a promising child.

ijawkid: @goshen...
Jesus wasn't rich materially,but spiritually....

Infact we could say Jesus had notin materially....

He never rode on chariots,never had d best of dresses or gowns......

Apart frm d house he grew up from,Jesus never had a house of his own....

And for Jesus to tell that rich man to sell his possessions,showed how much Jesus viewd wealth.....

Jesus also lived a simple life,never wanting to put burden on any1....sometin we wanna learn as christians.....

Jesus knew his kingdom was no part of this world,so he knew acquiring and heaping wealth will be total waste of time,and so he told us to store up our treasures in heaven not in zenith,and gtb bank...lol..

Jesus encouraged hard work but dis-couraged an ambituous spirit to be rich,that he taught us when he gave d illustration of that rich man who tore down his former store house to build new bigger ones,forgetin that an end was imminent......

As christians our balanced view and prayers to God should be the 1 recorded @ proverbs 30:7-9...

The truth is many christians today are taught to believe that they can pray to God for wealth /riches but I can confidently say from d scriptures that God doesn't listen to such prayers....
God listens to heartfelt prayers like the one recorded in proverbs,and that is exactly what Jesus was when on earth..he was neither rich nor poor materially.....

Jesus told us to ask for daily bread,not wealth or yearly bread...Jesus was teaching us contentment....

1timothy 6:9-10 helps us see we should nt be determined to get rich,because when we do we certainly will get into trouble...

Contentment shuld be our password because we knw d world is and will pass away and its desires but he that does d will of God remains forever

I like this

Xpecting your reply? I am out from here. But will respond later. Thanks dear friend

First do you really know what brought about the laws that was giving to man by God? I was worst than an atheist before I think i had made you know before.

logicboy: 1) A mother dreaming about her son

Science- this is normal, we dream about things and people we think about plus other abstract things.

2) A mother dreaming about her son having difficult times when the son is actually having a difficult time.

Science- very easy coincidence. Everyone has problems. If your mom dreams about you having problems, no surprise.

I like you so much LOL. So you have not proven to me 1. How the man in the dream came with the candle in the dream calling my name and I didn't answer? 2. Why was it at that particular period? Coincidence? Explain the second principle of coincidence as relates to dreams and science?
3. The Voice in her dream where did it come from and why related to me at that particular moment I needed help?

Thank you but answer my question first so that we can move forward? I enjoy our discussion based on clean and polite words, i respect you for that sincerely.

Pls Logic boy, i am waiting

logicboy: Yes, I understand the laws of the old testament very well as a christian. Stop dodging and answer the question

I will never dodge your questions but for me to let you understand i need to erase some preconceived notion.
I asked you a question because you made me believe that you were once a christian before.

The laws and commandments were giving to man for a definite purpose and something critical brought it because God didn't want to. Have you really wondered why will God Create his people out or love and yet will try to destroy them?

logicboy: Thanks for clearing that up.

However, you keep deuding yourself that atheists pick bible quote out of context. Your forget that many atheists were once christians who have read the bible back to back. Furthermore, it is a typical excuse of people who have been caught with bad quotes to claim that their words were taken out of context.

Please, can you explain how in any situation the quote I gave you (Deut 22; 28-29) is not evil?

First do you really know what brought about the laws that was giving to man by God? I was worst than an atheist before I think i had made you know before.

logicboy: 1) Are you accepting that there are errors in the bible, with regards to the bold part?

2) How does finding scrolls prove that the bible is factual?

3) There are quotes from the bible that evil, no matter the interpretation. For example can you interprete this in a good way;

(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

Even my tribe in Nigeria befire christianity came, the punishment for rape is public execution. No marriage clause.

What I meant is this, "if for all intentions you continue for the next 1000years to investigate only trying to read and pick errors not to understand first" then you will never get the message right.

Archaeology findings helps us to know and understand events and time and the authenticity of our beliefs as it relates to history and modern world

I will continue to tell you, read yourself to understand and understand. Acid is a volatile substance yet finds its usefulness in various applications in our lives. Don't read with a preconceived notion.

Roman 10: 9-15

9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10[b]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.[/b]

11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Many only confessed with their mouths but not truly coming from their hearts, they denial the works of righteousness which is an important product of salvation. They speak heresies and doctrines not embedded in the words of God, but yet call themselves Christians.

Romans 10: 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

1 Tim 1:6-11, 19-20

Joagbaje: @ OP
After death, what comes nexti is judgement .

[Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Thank you

logicboy: Rubbish. Cognitive bias.


We all want explanation for things and since you believe in the magical stories of the bible, you accept magical explanation for your experiences.

Lets be honest to ourselves.

So give me a scientific explanation. I am waiting.