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When we appreciate and honour our true heroes, every nigerian will want to do more that will benefit his fellow nigeria brother. We always quick to talk how an american will want to die for his brother and nation because they believe in honour more than the wealth they gathered. But nigeria has always gone to the other side of every good and moral thing.

naptu2: All these arguments reinforce what I wrote up there. We keep having these debates (Did Abiola sink a bible-laden ship? Did Abiola steal godknowswhat from godknows who? Did Abiola say he didn't need Igbo votes? Did Abiola sponsor Babangida's coup? Was Abiola a national/regional leader, etc?) Because we have not examined his life. In most cases, people are relying on rumours, sentiments, etc.

I wonder, how many people typing here have ever watched Abiola's speeches and how many can remember a specific speech?

Abiola, just like anybody else, had his good and bad sides, I believe it's time we examined them and learnt from them (based on facts, video & audio tapes, books, etc).

Nobody is born saint we all have our dark sides and good times. But remember this was the first time Nigerians were called nigerians , when demostrators in the far north, east, west and south came all out to fight and face the mouth of the bullet irrespective of their religious affiliations or our history books being sunk by the boat of corruption and greed or are all our elders dead. I believe some of us were not kids during the june 12 era.

If martin lurther king had done what he did in american to nigeria, nigerians would have spat on his grave. all our national heros can't look back and beat their chest in happiness for the people they died for irrespective how little the contribution was. our senses have being corroded with tribalistic and religious sentiments. The man that was voted for by the north, south,east and west for the first time in nigerian history and decided not to sell his mandate up till the point of death worth the best honour in the land(the eastern brothers have quickly come out to dissaprove his mandate). I am not surprised when the same GEJ gave corrupt officials national honours for nothing, will the same man honour or recognise a true hero?No. Dont let us play politics, tribalism with our future.

PortHarcourtBoy: And if you know nko??...Naija can beef people's progress!

I'm sure alot of you have started investigating already so you can put sand in his garri...

Its that progress, i blieve you have not passed through the 4 walls of higher institution thats why you dont appreciate it.

Bright2: He who is without a sin,let him cast the stone 1st.

I amn casting the first stone, because I know the studies( night and day) I went through before I could obtain my Certificate though not a first class but I am always proud to show the quality education brought out of me. If everyone decides to go through the same fake process he wouldnt even be in the position to go for an interview because the road side mechanic will do the same and this country will be heading for doom. If he is truely a genus in his profession as you claim then what is stoping him from having straight 10 A's in SSCE or 399 in JAMB. The guy has connection or an insider in that company for him to remain there at this moment.

tuniski: Abegi let him enjoy himself afterall he is capable of discharging his responsibilities! That is the fault of the system not his own for depending on paper qualifications instead of veritable skills!

that is the reason why the system its still crawling and decaying. If you encourage the decay, an imcompetent, fake presenting certificate doctor might be treating your only child.

I laugh in medium blood pressure

Oluwa4Sure: Bros even the most lucrative business in the world are not risk free!!!
My single advice is ask your friend to lock it all up with GOD in Prayers!!!!

You should remember that God is an holy God that cant behold iniquilty but forgives when restitutions are made. You can't build a good house on a faulty foundation. The God he never trusted before the heniuos crime.

The consequence is more farther than the implications of today. Monies realised from this unholy venture could have adverse effect on the individual and also when such money is used to train up a child, you know the result. We contend with a lot of things, which more are as a result of our past wrong doing and we blame it on house hold enemies. We can try to reason it out with the excuse of the situation of the coutry, funny enough the same guy will course and abuse the leaders for currupt system but forgetting that he is a partaker of those destroying the system.
With is hard work and experience he could have secured a good employment in some company that values experience more than certificate (some expert establishments) without presenting a fake result. Let him confess and beg for mercy, then suggest he would resign because he had repented, he could be favoured who knows, rather than being disgraced and have a long life dent on his personalty.

CITATIONS OF AN AIRCRAFT
My name is MD 83
I was manufactured in 1990
Acquired by Alaska airline

... For 12 years
I served my masters
With might and strength
And made them smile
To the banks

Until November 4, 2002
When I developed engine faults
And had to make emergency diversion
due to smoke in my cabin
Passengers disembarked alive.

On August 20, 2006
I was again evacuated after landing at the Long Beach, CA Again, due to
smoke in my cabin Passengers disembarked alive

Concerned about my air worthiness
Alaska Airline parked me
Until Sept. 11, 2008 for repairs
And shifted my burdens to Dana Air, Nigeria On February, 2009

On arrival
On the tropical shores of Africa
I hid not my state of health

On May 3, 2012
A Lagos station manager
Said I should be grounded for a check-up That alarm was ignored

On May 11, 2012
I made an air return and emergency landing at MM2 Passengers disembarked
alive

On May 25, 2012
Again, I made an air return and emergency landing due to engine failure
Passengers disembarked alive

And finally on June 3, 2012
I crashed in Iju, 5-6 nautical miles from touch down, killing all 153
passengers on board and 30 on ground

After 22 years
Of meritorious service
I wished my masters listened
And let me rest

Now I put tears
In the eyes of a nation

But come to think of it,
If Alaska Air
Considered me unfit
To fly Americans
Why should Dana Air
Consider me worthy
To fly Nigerians?

haibe: God prohibited the killing of man
("You shall not murder," Exodus
20:13) but he placed no such
restriction on the killing of
animals. Man is made in God’s
image, so man must not kill one
of his own kind. Animals, it
would seem, are different from
man. If they do have a "soul" that
survives death, it is different
from man’s. It does not need
redemption and if animals dont need redemption, its because they have no soul that will proceed to eternity, Christ died to save
the souls of human beings, not
animals.

TO add to this lovely thread:

Gen 9: 5-7



5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

Sometimes a man's definition of morality could be different from the other man's definition and understanding through cultural, beliefs and enviroment. So your feelings about what is moral could be subjective atimes and might not be acceptable by some few or even many, so the best thing is to understand and respect people's opinion and either leave it or live by it since you were not induced or propelled to act against your will.

Do rules make people Moral or do moral people follow the rules (even when it is against good will sometimes)?

Wait and see, follow the events and happenings with the Bible, and you will never be confused.

Laugh my heart out, Why are you so bothered about going to heaven? Why are you so curious about somethings you don't believe in?

Look let me tell you something that you may not believe in for now but you surely know it, that there is always an hunger consciously or unconsciously in man towards his creator. Its in us you can never take it away though you might want to shy away from it, you will always come back to it that it is the reason we are not Apes. I am giving you my words.

logicboy: Keep scaring yourselves with stupid conspiracies;

-do you reject a hotel room if the room number is 666?
-do you reject a student number or employee number if it is student/employee 666?

I remember when idiots were praying all day in june 2006. 06-06-06.

Your post sounds like someone that is afraid but not too sure of what he should believe. You don't believe in something then why disturb yourself over it?
What you don't believe in, you can understand it. You will indeed be so much surprise when events will start unfolding itself, what you think its a child's play will catch you unaware like some that believed that HIV virus was a fluke until they were hit.

logicboy: The op should be banned for this copy and paste conspiracy crap

At least you don't believe in the Bible so this is not meant for you, don't worry continue with your life, its well.

“But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man” (Luke 21:34‑36).

When i saw this I believe this is just the beginning, they will start from this and later find a way to modify it, and since its compulsory for every american citizen, you wont be able to make transactions without this innovation.

One of the Biblical prophesies coming to reality.

The Technology for the Mark of the Beast is Here Now - Smart Skin...

Revelation 13:16-18 ESV

Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

Revelation 13:1-18 ESV

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. ...

Revelation 13:16 ESV

Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,
University of Illinois reported on August 11, 2011:

Engineers have developed a device platform that combines electronic components for sensing, medical diagnostics, communications and human-machine interfaces, all on an ultrathin skin-like patch that mounts directly onto the skin with the ease, flexibility and comfort of a temporary tattoo.

Led by John A. Rogers, the Lee J. Flory-Founder professor of engineering at the University of Illinois, the researchers described their novel skin-mounted electronics in the Aug. 12 issue of the journal Science.

The circuit bends, wrinkles and stretches with the mechanical properties of skin. The researchers demonstrated their concept through a diverse array of electronic components mounted on a thin, rubbery substrate, including sensors, LEDs, transistors, radio frequency capacitors, wireless antennas, and conductive coils and solar cells for power

Another hidden secret in Obamacare “RFID Chip Implants”

On Sunday March 21, 2010 the Senate Healthcare bill HR3200 was passed and signed into law the following Tuesday. Like I said before, there are a legion of horrible and just plain evil aspects to this bill and I’m sure you’ve heard a lot them by now. I don’t want to discount them but what cannot be missed here is this new law now opens a prophetic door on a magnitude not seen since the reformation of Israel.

This new law requires an RFID chip implanted in all of us. This chip will not only contain your personal information with tracking capability but it will also be linked to your bank account. And get this, Page 1004 of the new law (dictating the timing of this chip), reads, and I quote: “Not later than 36 months after the date of the enactment”. It is now the law of the land that by March 23rd 2013 we will all be required to have an RFID chip underneath our skin and this chip will be link to our bank accounts as well as have our personal records and tracking capability built into it.

In just a minute I’m going to show you the black and white of the law itself and you can see it with your own eyes and wonder why an event of this magnitude which is nothing less than seismic in nature is met with little more than silence in the Christian community.

Is it now starting to dawn on you just where exactly we are in prophecy? I’ll ask that question again in a minute and follow up on it, but now I want to show you the law itself. I’ve downloaded a PDF copy of HR3200 from the government’s website so what I’m about to show you is from the bill itself its nothing that I’ve written. You can access it all and see it all for yourself straight from the source itself.

H.R. 3200 section 2521, Pg. 1001, paragraph 1.
The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘and is— ‘‘a class III device; or ‘‘a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? As you saw earlier, it is the device approved by the FDA in 2004.

Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act:

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevices/DeviceRegulationandGuid…

A class II implantable device is an “implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”

Going back to what we just looked at, the creation of the national medical device registry in section 2521, page 1002 line 5:

“In developing the registry, the secretary shall…”

And the law continues on with a laundry list of items that the secretary must do in the process of creating this registry. In this laundry list of items to do, Line 17, subparagraph B: “validating methods for analyzing patient safety and outcomes data from multiple sources and for linking such data with the information included in the registry as described in subparagraph (A)”

Going back to subparagraph A [right above subparagraph B], it says: “including in the registry, in a manner consistent with subsection (f), appropriate information to identify each device described in paragraph (1) by type, model, and serial number or other unique identifier;”

Don’t be confused by the intentional obfuscation and skillful wording, This law first creates the national device registry and then immediately list all the task the secretary of health and human services will have do in the process of creating this registry.

The very first two items in the list mandates that the secretary first gives a unique identification to each of the items listed in paragraph 1 which is:

‘‘a class III device; or ‘‘a class II device that is implantable.”

Then, the very next thing the secretary is to do is to create the process by which “patient safety and outcomes data from multiple sources”, which is electronic medical records, that are linked to these newly and uniquely identified items from paragraph 1 which are the class III and class II implantable devices.

Class III devises are items such as breast implants, pacemakers, heart valves, etc. A Class II device that is implantable is, as you seen from the FDA, an implantable radio frequency transponder, RFID chip. From breast implants, to pacemakers, to RFID chips which one is the only possible one that can used for the stated purpose in section B which is, “for linking such data with the information included in the registry”? As we know from subsection A, the information in the registry is the name of a device. In plain speak, we are in a clear way being told that our electronic medical records are going to be linked to a class II implantable device!

Continuing a few lines down in this same section, section B subsection ii on still on page 1002, the “patient safety and outcomes data from multiple sources”, that is to be linked is clearly spelled out as electronic medical records. It reads: “link data obtained under clause (i) with information in the registry”. Information in the registry is, as we know from subparagraph A, the name of the device. So what is the data obtained under clause i? Back up a few lines to clause i

It reads: “obtain access to disparate sources of patient safety and outcomes data, including Federal health-related electronic data”. Again, from breast implants, to pacemakers, to RFID chips which one is the only possible one that can used for the stated purpose in section B? That stated purpose is “for linking such data” and the such data is electronic medical records.

What we already have already seen in just the creation of this registry, is the device that will serve as the link, which is an RFID microchip that is categorized as a Class II implantable device, as well as what it will be the link for which is your electronic medical records.

In case the law wasn’t clear enough on that point, still in the laundry list of things to do a few more lines down on the next page, page 1005

“The Secretary to protect the public health; shall establish procedures to permit linkage of information submitted pursuant to subparagraph (A, remember subparagraph A is the class 2 implantable device reference) with patient safety and outcomes data obtained under paragraph (3, which is electronic medical records); and to permit analyses of linked data;”

Continuing on to page 1007, in the STANDARDS, IMPLEMENTATION CRITERIA, AND CERTIFICATION CRITERIA section, the secretary of health and human services is given full power to intact all mandates from the laundry list of to-do items in the creation process of the registry as well as dictate how the devises listed in the National Medical Device Registry are to be used and implemented.

“The Secretary of the Health Human Services, acting through the head of the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, shall adopt standards, implementation specifications, and certification criteria for the electronic exchange and use in certified electronic health records of a unique device identifier for each device described in paragraph 1 (National Medical Device Registry), if such an identifier is required by section 519(f) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 360i(f)) for the device.”

To read More..http://polidics.com/news/another-hidden-secret-in-obamacare-rfid-chip-implants.html

Came in saw that the young man didn't answer the questions, shook his head, hissed and worked out from the internet for 5days.

logicboy: You're lucky that you claimed that this was a joke. The intellectual bashing that was going to come your way would have been monumental

Fasten your sit belt for real intellectual bashing.

logicboy: The thread is not a joke. Christianity in Nigeria- now that's a joke!

Respond to my questions is not a Joke. Your thread is a total Joke to Christianity.

logicboy: You're lucky that you claimed that this was a joke. The intellectual bashing that was going to come your way would have been monumental

So funny< I said it's only a Joke because the thread is a Joke mister.

logicboy: Difference;


Christainity; Jesus is a Jew. All prophets or big names in the bible were Jews. Christianity is "proved" by the ressurection of a jew

Evolution; Man came from a common ancestor with monkeys. Fossils are found by white/araba/blacks/Asians. Evolution is "proved" by everybody

So we have white Fossils, Araba fossils, Blacks fossils and Asians Fossils etc. You are very funny

What is the name of the first White fossil formed into man,first "Araba" fossil formed into man, first Blacks fossil formed into man and first Asians fossil formed into man

buzugee: yes but you have recieved answers to those questions. ask something else like say ' why do black american pastors like wearing suits that get to their kneecaps ? ' or ' why do black american pastors like wearing extremely baggy trousers ? ' or ' why do black american pastors like wearing pointy tip shoes ? ' etc etc

Avicenna: Was this meant as a joke

I believe its a Joke just as the thread

@Logicboy

Longtime no hear. I saw your thread then dropped by.

If I may ask to start with.

What is the color of your heart?
What is the color of your brain?
What is the color of the words you speak?
What stopped you or anybody to paint the picture of Jesus Christ Anyhow?
What is the color of your conscience?

Welcome back.

@OLAADEGBU

For us to understand the purpose of Grace we must understand and can never throw away the motive of the law, because this was given by God Himself the same yesterday, today and forever Heb 13:8 and the unchanging God. The motive of the law has never being thrown away by God nor by Jesus, but Jesus through Grace as come to make perfect the motive of the law as pronounced by God which was not easy for man because on the flesh, which you have intelligently disserted.

Galatians 5:19-20 also brought out the working of the Law which the spirit through the grace brought by Christ had come to perfect.

You are a teacher of the Word, I respect your efforts for that and I will like to title your teaching if permitted: The Law, The grace and The Man or The Workings of The Law, The Grace and Man

@Enigma well said