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brainpulse: I dont believe my post can be hidden even when it has no word of hate and harm. Whao

tintingz: good answer bro. . .simple this is d confirm answer i read so far in dis thread. . .others are just bushing around

LagosShia: boko haram have killed more muslims and northerners than christians and southerners.

someone is busy cutting himself and you are busy crying from the wound.are you for real?

you only have the right to have fear that they may bring their bloodshed down south and seek ways to stop that.

but as usual,it is all about christian missionary propaganda to win souls against Islam even if that means trading the blood of innocent christians up north who are victims of boko haram terrorism.

tintingz: Through out the bible thier's no where God said "i am God i have come to earth to give you this message" if their is kindly show me. . .God only appears in vision, dreams or make something speak for communicating just like Mose and the burning tree where God appears to Moses in a tree and told him to off his sandals before he come closer, did Mose look into the burning tree? NO! he can't "no one has seen God even the son and angels have not" this is what Jesus said funny enough the bible recorded Jacob wrestle with God? What a blasphemy?. . .if your God that you serve is the pics of an european blue eye blund hair of Jesus pic am sorry that is not God almighty. . .
now you want tell me that if i am a king of a kingdom and my people call me my lord my lord! Those that mean i'm God or qualify to be God? The kings of the ancients and present who people call my lord are the God. . .a judge in a supreme high court we call my lord in yoruba oluwa'mi are they God. . .Lord is used for someone in high position, a king, supreme person in power, a master or teacher etc.
in Islam their many roles of spirit i will give you the main three. . .
1. The spirit in God: thats God himself
2. The spirit of God: this the spirit God breath into Adam, it's the spirit in us the soul. . .the spirit that God put into Mary's(as) womb and he said BE and it is, Jesus(as) was born.
3. The spirit from God: this are the angels they guide us, protect us, reveal things of the past or things to come, make things possible for ur(miracles), they write down our deeds on earth and take our souls back to God when death approach.
Asfar this spirits are from God they are all Holyspirits. . .Now can you answer me is the bible not meant for christians and not for non-christians?, what about if someone wants to convert to christianity and need to read the bible to know God but does'nt have the holyspirit in him.
read the roles of spirit i stated above.

tintingz: u mean spirits are gramatical? You did'nt answer my question what is a soul and a spirit?
sorry i don't know that jehova is a bird dove that came down to jehovah on earth baptized by john while another jehova is still in heaven talking to jehovah on earth and there came a jehova in bird form flying(pure nonsense!)
ofcuz they are different since jehova is a dove born by a woman and was cruxified like a chicken. . .the God i serve can't be killd he's almighty.
no argument in this your god is multiple 1000 being. . .the God i serve is ONE God

tintingz: ^^^ LOL. . . now i see you don't know anything ok let me break it down to your own level:
1. I have "spirit in God" in me that simply means i have God in me i am God, God is a spirit already he's inside me. I am not God oh just to show you example

tintingz: ^^^ 2. I have "spirit from God" in me this not mean God himself. . .the dove a spirit from God came down from heaven to Jesus while God is still in heaven talking "my belovd son" those this mean the dove is God? Angel Gabriel appeard to Mary is Gabriel not a spirit from God? Jesus told his disciple "i will tell my father to send another spirit" is this spirit God himself?

tintingz: ^^^ I have "spirit of God" this is the spirit God fashiond in (Adam)us a breath of God that become a soul those this means i and Adam are gods or every human are gods? since we have his spirit in us

tintingz: ^^^you quoted Moses see God face to face if so why did he heard God voice like thunder
“The Sound, like trumpets, grew louder; when Moses spoke, God answered him with a Voice like thunder.”Exod 19:19"
i will let you know that Moses didn't see God face to face or other prophets in OT bible. . .While on Mt. Sinai Moses asked God, "Show me thy glory. And (God) said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee...and he said, Thou canst not see my face; for man shall not see me and live...and thou shalt see my back: but my face shall not be seen" (Ex. 33:18-23). When God spoke to Moses "face to face" He spoke as "a man unto his friend," i.e., familiarly (Ex. 33:11). When Moses spoke of "Jehovah (being) seen face to face" by the Hebrews, he explains, "and thy cloud standeth over them, and thou goest before them, in a pillar of fire by night" (Num. 14:14). What they saw was the pillar of fire and the cloud, not the Spirit presence of Jehovah. Since no two passages of Scripture, if correctly understood, will contradict each other, we must conclude that when the Bible speaks of people seeing God, they did not look upon his pure essence of deity. That man cannot do and live. We are told that God is a Spirit (John 4:24) and thus invisible (I Tim. 1:17). What these people saw was either 1). A vision or dream of God (Isaiah and Daniel) or 2). A theophany (a divine manifestation), that is God’s special angel, the one known as the Word, took the appearance of a man and came down to interact with His people. As sinful mortals we cannot look upon the pure deity of our Creator and live, thus he mercifully does not provide us that opportunity.
Jews don't believe in trinity it's not mention in OT bible if you think trinity is your defination of holyspirit am sorry it's false a paganism belief even NT bible never mention trinity. Let me stop here and wait for your reply.

tintingz: so mr. Can you show me where i stated that God can't appear anywhere at dsame time?. . .i said "God can't send himself message or an errand" now can you tell me:
1. The roles of Angels God created.

2. Why did he create the Angels(holyspirit)
3. What is their puporse of their creation, their work/duties on we humans.
Through out the bible thier's no where God said "i am God i have come to earth to give you this message" if their is kindly show me. . .God only appears in vision, dreams or make something speak for communicating just like Mose and the burning tree where God appears to Moses in a tree and told him to off his sandals before he come closer, did Mose look into the burning tree? NO! he can't "no one has seen God even the son and angels have not" this is what Jesus said funny enough the bible recorded Jacob wrestle with God? What a blasphemy?. . .if your God that you serve is the pics of an european blue eye blund hair of Jesus pic am sorry that is not God almighty. . .
now you want tell me that if i am a king of a kingdom and my people call me my lord my lord! Those that mean i'm God or qualify to be God? The kings of the ancients and present who people call my lord are the God. . .a judge in a supreme high court we call my lord in yoruba oluwa'mi are they God. . .Lord is used for someone in high position, a king, supreme person in power, a master or teacher etc.
in Islam their many roles of spirit i will give you the main three. . .
1. The spirit in God: thats God himself
2. The spirit of God: this the spirit God breath into Adam, it's the spirit in us the soul. . .the spirit that God put into Mary's(as) womb and he said BE and it is, Jesus(as) was born.
3. The spirit from God: this are the angels they guide us, protect us, reveal things of the past or things to come, make things possible for ur(miracles), they write down our deeds on earth and take our souls back to God when death approach.
Asfar this spirits are from God they are all Holyspirits. . .Now can you answer me is the bible not meant for christians and not for non-christians?, what about if someone wants to convert to christianity and need to read the bible to know God but does'nt have the holyspirit in him.
read the roles of spirit i stated above.

superior1: Absolute nonsense. Cant these people be at-least creative with what they do with public funds

tintingz: ^^^ dude do you read my post at all? Scrol up and read again i've aswered you "the role of holyspirit" and the holyspirit is not equal to God. . .you said God send out his spirit now answer me can God send himself? It dosn't make sense can you send your self an errand and at the same time still sitting in your house relaxing. . .this spirit a.k.a angels work for God is like you don't knw who God his. . .you ask diff betwn Lord and God? Lord is a title while God is a spirit being unseen the creator. . .i don't knw why it's a most to have holyspirit in me before i can understand the bible when it's written in plain english or is the bible not for everyone? Quoting out context? Well that's what you will say. . .i dont have time for that now, this topic is about Mary(as) not holyspirit.

tintingz: like have said holyspirit are under God they do what God permmit them to do "Therein come down the Angels and the Spirit by God's permission,on every errand: Quran, 97:4"
and they strengthen us guide us those who believe
"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the Revelation from thy Lord in Truth,in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims. Quran, 16:102"
God fashion his spirit inside us(Adam)
"But He fashioned him in due proportion,and breathed into him something of His Spirit. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give! Quran 32:9"
even inside Mary and Jesus(as)
"And (remember) her who guarded her chastity:We breathed into her of Our Spirit,and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples. Quran, 21:91"
holyspirit has many roles in Islam angels are holyspirits what else are they and muslim don't worship holyspirit. . .evil spirit can claim holyspirit i read this in the bible God created the holyspirit
"When you send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the earth. Psalm 104:30"
can God send an evil spirit? See what its said in the bible
1 Samuel 18:10" The next day an evil spirit from God came forcefully upon Saul. He was prophesying in his house, while David was playing the harp, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand..."
God almighty has an evil spirit? NO! But the bible said it. . .can God send a lying spirit? See what the bible said
1 kings 22:22 " 'By what means?'the LORD asked." 'I will go out and be a LYING spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'
this in your bible not created from my mouth. . .

tintingz: mr. That's why i said we serve God in different ways. . .well i won't argue with you cuz it's said in the Quran
. . ."And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. Quran, 109:1-6"
and who told muslims don't believe in holyspirit. . .
"Therein come down the Angels and the Spirit by God's permission,on every errand: Quran, 97:4"
muslims beileiv holyspirit he's under God not equal to God and angel Gabriel is also our holyspirit infact every prophets of God are fashion with spirit from God. . .but in christianity holyspirit don't have names, equal to God, three thrones in heaven(Jehovah, Jesus, Holyspirit) we don't know the superior among them, christianity is a confused religion. . .Jesus(phuh) is a great messanger a prophet in Islam and we respect him, he's not God or some kind of a demi-god cuz through out the NT bible i read he preaches one God and serve him only
"matt 4:10 you shall worship the lord your GOD and him only shall you serve"

john 8:28 Jesus said "i do nothing of myself can't God do anything he wills"
john 14:28 "my father God is greater than i"
i can't find where he said "i am God worship me" in the bible. . .am not forcing to accept if we worship same God or not.

tintingz: ok we serve same God but in different ways. . .

tintingz: ok. . .
am not a spirit, i read them in the same bible you read. . .no one as seen Allah(God) it's you christians that have seen Jehovah(trinity) a.k.a Jesus, his pics how he eat drink, cry sleep and even die?

Logicbwoy: Sahih International Surah 33;50
O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

tintingz: you read the trash your anti-islam site created if i start quoting what your biblical bloodsucker 3headed god did to many innocent people in the bible you will sharaap. . .well that is not the topic here, Mary is the mother of your god and her report suppose to be a credit in the bible. . .now we read that the disciples of Jesus(as) fled away when Jesus was to be crusified Mary was their with Jesus only God knows the secret behind the crucification(the Quran expose it), Mary was also the one who visited Jesus in the tomb to anoint him(can someone anoint a 3 days dead body?). . .it seems the bible cheated on Mary for her views is not in the bible, God choosed Mary(as) who knew many things about Jesus(as). . .while catholics worship her without having one single chapter about their goddess.

justaqad: You sound pathetic.go through the post again and stop embarrasing yourself.you do not need the holy spirit to understand the word of God.the word of God is simple and easy to understand.that is why christians are prey to fraudster marsking as mog.

Logicbwoy: I have notice the decline in christians posting here on the religion forum. Many of the old guys have left. I am suspecting that some of the them got frustrated at the increasing number of atheistic posts while some have actually been swayed by the arguments against their religion.


I am wondering if some of the people converted to atheism are too ashamed to come and admit it after some of them have been attacking atheists.

justaqad: Those who sincerely and earnestly seek the truth should not really
care about its source.what should matter most to them is if, in fact
it is truth. As an example, does it matter if the truth about God is
found in the Bible, Qur’an , Torah, Vedas, Avesta e.t.c.? No! What
should matter is if such a source reflects observable truth- and our
generation certainly possesses the yardstick to use in evaluating the veracity of any such claim.

justaqad: dude i just pointed out lies enshrined in the bible.its your duty to seperate truth from falsehood,as a sincere believer.

Delafruita: dreams are real.so real that you sometime wake up sweating profusely.to better understand the psychology behind dreams,you need to do some studying.however for the purpose of this thread,i'd make some analogies:we humans are emotional creatures.every single aspect of our lives are ruled by emotions.in our state of consciousness,we attempt to suppress those emotions which vary from fear,hunger,pain,joy,anger,frustration,ehiliration etc.in our unconscious state i.e. REM phase,the guards of the mind are suppressed and these emotions flow rapidly which accounts for the rapid eye movement.now you need to understand that the mind is the most creative part of our being,from it comes everything that makes up our thoughts and attitude,we then choose which ones to transform into action.when the suppressors of the mind goes down,all these emotions play out as dreams based on the creativity of the mind to create scenarios.its just the same as when you daydream,just that in the case of a daydream you actively formulate the images and scenarios.
scientists have been able to work around the mind suppressors which has led to production of drugs like sodium amytal which is used to extract information.some drugs even create the feel of drowning or burning or even been nailed to a plank hence these drugs can manufacutre dreams hence breaking the myth of dreams been "unexplainable"

dekung: Newton first law of motion states 'Every body continues in it state of rest or uniform motion unless compelled by an external force to act otherwise'. This statement holds true universally, even as far as religious beliefs are concerned. Every child is born atheist/agnost and would continue in that line unless compelled by his/her parents or society to believe otherwise therefore a ten year old who has not be exposed to any religious teaching would most likely not believe in God.
Your question about Darwin being the forst atheist is NOT true as there have always been athiests for as long as human have been in existence.
DREAMS are intangible thoughts in your mind. They are a product of your life experiences twisted together in your subconscious mind and they occur just when you are close to waking up (REM period)
GHOSTs are just a figment of someone's imagination. The question I would point to you is have you seen a ghost before?

dekung: Newton first law of motion states 'Every body continues in it state of rest or uniform motion unless compelled by an external force to act otherwise'. This statement holds true universally, even as far as religious beliefs are concerned. Every child is born atheist/agnost and would continue in that line unless compelled by his/her parents or society to believe otherwise therefore a ten year old who has not be exposed to any religious teaching would most likely not believe in God.
Your question about Darwin being the forst atheist is NOT true as there have always been athiests for as long as human have been in existence.
DREAMS are intangible thoughts in your mind. They are a product of your life experiences twisted together in your subconscious mind and they occur just when you are close to waking up (REM period)
GHOSTs are just a figment of someone's imagination. The question I would point to you is have you seen a ghost before?

dekung: Newton first law of motion states 'Every body continues in it state of rest or uniform motion unless compelled by an external force to act otherwise'. This statement holds true universally, even as far as religious beliefs are concerned. Every child is born atheist/agnost and would continue in that line unless compelled by his/her parents or society to believe otherwise therefore a ten year old who has not be exposed to any religious teaching would most likely not believe in God.
Your question about Darwin being the forst atheist is NOT true as there have always been athiests for as long as human have been in existence.
DREAMS are intangible thoughts in your mind. They are a product of your life experiences twisted together in your subconscious mind and they occur just when you are close to waking up (REM period)
GHOSTs are just a figment of someone's imagination. The question I would point to you is have you seen a ghost before?