Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 12:39pm On Sep 29, 2017 |
Baywood: My brother that's sponsoring me has a chemical industry where soaps are manufactured. He's sponsoring me financially. All me travel expenses will be taken care of by him.
My host in the UK is a friend. He's a Nigerian and British citizen. I know a few folks would not want to accept the truth. The applicant's circumstances here is very shabby. Only invitation letter and biodata page from the so-called host  This is automatic refusal, no arguments. The ECO would be more concerned of how you will spend your visit in the UK. Under appendix V, the visa would be refused. Are you going to get your brother in Nigeria to send funds to your UK friend? You say your UK friend is the host, meaning they will House u, I believe. You need to provide evidence that they are capable of hosting you without recourse to public funds. You would have to provide payslips and bank statements of your Uk host. Otherwise how does the ECO establish the circumstance of the one you say is hosting you? I know you might say you have all the finances from your brother, this doesn't hold water. You might have bank statements and payslips of your brother, there is no proof he would actually release the funds to you. You must have your birth certificate and your brother's birth certificate where your parents names are clearly written on them. In my opinion, this application is shabby. A fit man who is employed in Nigeria is applying to visit the UK, his brother in Nigeria is paying for the trip and he has a friend in the Uk to host him. This is very shabby. The ECO would question why you need to make that visit and why you require funds from your brother and why a friend is hosting you in the UK for an ordinary visit. Also in your list of documents there is nothing showing that you have a relationship with your friend. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 11:46am On Sep 29, 2017 |
emeystan: Please my fellow Nairalanders
How can i solve this situation, me and my wife are going, but mine was rejected and her own was granted can she go alone or do i appeal my own
What is the consequences if she travels alone
please i need suggestion Sadly you do not have the right of appeal or administrative review. It's hard to tell when we don't know what documents you submitted and how yours differ from your wife's. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 11:12am On Sep 29, 2017 |
Baywood: Am I all set?
Here are the documents I have...
1. Employer's approval letter for vacation and explaining when I was employed and my monthly salary.
2. Sponsor's letter explaining why he's sponsoring me.
3. Invitation letter from my host.
4. Data page of my host's British Passport.
5. Sponsor's 6 months bank account statement.
6. My 6 months bank account statement.
7. Letter explaining my other source of income.
8. Marriage certificate.
9. Letter detailing my travel proposed expenses.
Good to go?
What might be remaining? Go ask your village people.... see this guy  Were you not the person arguing and waging war against everyone here, and now u wanna keep asking the same people. Lord 'thou know it all', just ask Google. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 11:08am On Sep 29, 2017 |
Joyce27: Hello house please any advice would be of help. Below is my husband's visa application refusal. His previous salary was 270k from when he applied on 20th of June. while his account balance was 1.2m. The issue now is that his salary has been reduced to 160k due to some issues with his company. His current account balance is 1.9m. And we are thinking of reapply with supper priority nest week. List the documents submitted from the applicant's side... I mean documents originating from Nigeria. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 6:02am On Sep 29, 2017 |
Joyce27: Hello house please any advice would be of help. Below is my husband's visa application refusal. His previous salary was 270k from when he applied on 20th of June. while his account balance was 1.2m. The issue now is that his salary has been reduced to 160k due to some issues with his company. His current account balance is 1.9m. And we are thinking of reapply with supper priority nest week. Repost the refusal letter and observe the edges |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 5:46pm On Sep 28, 2017 |
themusketeer: I might be wrong... but I think TB test is not required for a visit visa. Because even if you have 10yrs visit visa you are not expected to spend more than 6months at a go.
You’ll need to have a tuberculosis (TB) test if you’re coming to the UK for more than 6 months - Gov.uk
So, technically you don't need a TB test for a visit visa I agree with you, but only partially. Inasmuch as what you say is correct, it's only correct if it's a standard visitor visa where you are ordinarily not allowed to spend more than 6 months at a go. But remember, there are other visit visas that are neither 6 months, 2 years nor 5 or 10 years validity. There is a visit visa for 11 months which is for private medical treatment in the UK. A potential patient under this type who can prove they require more than 6 months treatment in the UK can stay beyond 6 months. Also, what about visit visa of 12 months for Academics  |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 3:45pm On Sep 28, 2017 |
Jarus: What category of UK visitors is TB test for?
Never did TB test in my previous business visits. TB test required for visitors visa with over 6 months validity. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 9:57am On Sep 28, 2017 |
castiello: Hello my people I have a training to attend 11 of November in the uk I have an expired uk visa before I submitted 22nd of September am scared do you think it will be out by lastest November 5th or what can I do to fast track I never knew they take long to process Standard or priority? If standard, no one here knows. But since you are not a first time traveller, you might have cause to smile. Also it depends on how straightforward your application is. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 10:41am On Sep 27, 2017 |
yolemum: @brightingsus....we jus started filling the application, and that was the rundown we filled, we have completed them yet, the rundown for the child is still pending as we dont know how to fill it From your plan, it looks like you have allocated more resources to the man than the woman. Why is that? The woman would eat as much as the man and visit places as much as the man. Also you have allocated same figure for flights for all three applicants. There's no way the child's air ticket would be same as an adult's. For the baby you would need to consider the cost of buying milk and diapers... |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 10:37am On Sep 27, 2017 |
Jarus: justwise et al
Looks like I have run into further trouble.
Like I said earlier here, I'm in a very tight position - just got approval for the UK conference on Monday, started renewing my passport yesterday (expected to be out Friday). Travel is 15th October.
In a bid to make sure everything is ready before my new passport is ready, I started filling the UK visa application form online on Monday (two days ago), so that once my passport is ready, will just complete the application, pay, pick appointment and dash to the submission office.
Since I knew I can edit anytime, I did the following:
- filled placeholder - just random info - for information that will be available by Friday (hotel to be booked by my office in the UK and I will be advised before Friday - so I just put a hotel around the area I am visiting as hotel to stay), and just guessed a random number and put as passport number of my yet-to-be-issued passport, in the hope that I will edit when I have all the info on Friday
- chose priority service based on earlier info I have that priority service will be treated within 5 days.
- I stopped the application at payment in the hope of continuing when I have full info and then pay
I logged in today to start updating, specifically to change to super priority only that (and edit the new passport number and hotel address later), only to see I can't edit again.
To think I edited part of the application yesterday (with info available).
Now, I can't edit anything again today.
What can I do? Some of the info there are just placeholder that I want to change, and I also want to change to super priority, now I can't do that again! Like @Pzone advised, abandon that application and start afresh. They do not have the application yet, so a new one wouldn't constitute double application. An application is made when the fee is paid. You can still log into the old application to retrieve info. But start a fresh application. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 5:17am On Sep 27, 2017 |
yolemum: Hi guys....this is from a family friend of mine intending to visit the UK for vacation in Dec
Here are the parameter. He is intends to travel with his wife and one year old son...Though the wife is unemployed.. So he is sponsoring the trip.
Budget for the man
Days to spend in the UK : 8 days
He earns 320k monthly
Here is what he filled as his budget: 1. How much do u spend on living cost: £125
2. How much of your total income is given to your family members and dependents: £65 3. Cost of trip personally to you : £1918 4. Total money you have for this trip: £1950 5. Cost of Airplane,boat, train: £554.. Note (This amount is for the 3 of them)
6. Cost of Accommodation: £366 ...(Note: for hubsand and wife including their son) 7. Cost of living expenses : £400
Budget for the Wife She is unemployed
This what she filled as her budget:
1. How much do u spend on living cost: £65
2. How much of your total income is given to your family members and dependents: 0
3. Cost of trip personally to you : 0
4. Total money you have for this trip: £695 5. Cost of Airplane,boat, train: £545 Note (This amount is for one person)
6. Cost of Accommodation: N/A. 7. Cost of living expenses : £150 8. How much would be given to you for this trip: £695
For the one year old son....we are confused on what to fill as his budget
Please gurus make ur inputs in areas that are not correct Cc: Justwise,brightingsus,epotek...and my good people
Thanks while looking forward to your responses. Has this application happened and awaiting decision or you (or they) are preparing to apply with this rundown? For the man and the wife you used 'he/she filled' like it's done albeit it appears nothing for the kid yet  |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 12:00pm On Sep 26, 2017 |
nanajec: @ Oga Brightingsus
Please Good morning ..Biko please you never finish help me on this my wahala now.
Please help a brother abeggi... Am straining to see the attached two pages clearly. Kindly upload again and watch the edges of the sheets. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 11:56am On Sep 26, 2017 |
harry41: I meant that I had a closing balance of over 1m in other months prior to borrowing and repayment of the 700k. when I borrowed the 700k, I had like 300k left in the account but upon repayment, the balance for this month is over 1m. I am getting confused with the terminology. You mean, you borrowed money from someone or you lent money to someone |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 10:45am On Sep 26, 2017 |
ijeshaoflondon: : General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ijeshaoflondon: 5:41am Good Morning Ma People, I applied for a 6 month tourist visa since 4th july, i got a message in August from sheffield UK that they needed more time to make decision , hoping by September ending I should have gotten my passport back, but to my utmost surprise, I received another email from Sheffield last night that they needed more time to make decision on my application , please what the heck is happening? is it normal to receive this same message twice or its just an error from Sheffield? justwise,epkpote,brightus,help!!!! Each application is unique and decision time depends on the type of visa applied for, reason for the proposed visit, applicant's circumstances and supporting documents in relation to UKVI guidelines. This is the reason why two people could apply for the same type of visa under the same standard service, one gets visa quicker than the other. Also bear in mind, it's still peak period for UKVI. It is nothing to worry about as some peoples' applications have taken longer than yours. UKVI reckons they owe it to you to always update you on the status of your application and that's why you got the correspondence you got. However if you think it's taken too long, you can always escalate. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 9:24am On Sep 26, 2017 |
Baywood: If the ECO decides when it's practically reasonable, it means we are all guessing. No one should speak conclusively, that's my argument. Trailer fall on your argument!!! We don't guess. Some people here have read the Uk immigration law as well as Guideleines for ECOs. Some of us are painstaking to study refusal letters to ascertain why visas are refused, we don't guess, we do not conclude either. But we can give strengths and weaknesses of an application. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 8:25am On Sep 26, 2017 |
Solatium: You are getting it all wrong,the dude is trying to save you from unnecessary spending and visa rejection at the end of the day,if u earn 120k each month it translates to 1.44million per annum without factoring your monthly expenses into it.and u intend to spend 600k which is just your yearly savings after all your monthly 70k expenses,Your application won't fly,trust me and you might want to give it a try and report back to the house about your experience Bro, I have said it. The nagging guy for which your response was tailored is here not to learn, but to show they know something called nothing. Best is to ignore him. No one says his visa would be denied. If he so believes no one here is an ECO, why then did he post his initial question? If he were intelligent he would have known any constructive criticism is to better prepare him to have a stronger footing to get a visa. Surely relatives can sponsor applicants' visa applications but these come with conditions. The gov.uk directive will tell you a brother can sponsor a sister on face value. But then the ECO decides when this is practically reasonable. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 8:19am On Sep 26, 2017 |
NaGodwin: I agree with you, your brother can Sponsor your vacation, if u have a girlfriend/wife, it's better u apply with her, he can Sponsor the both of you , it will prove to the ECO that you both will return to Nigeria after the vacation because your brother can't accommodate the both of you for long, make sure you write a cover letter explaining that your brother is sponsoring the both of you .
Also inform them that you have worked for 8 years and you are entitled to the visa, intimidate d ECO with your application, it's your right 
You know so much about this, go ahead and apply (remember to include your gf/wife, if you have kids, add them too), in your cover letter, request that they issue you a 10years visa as you intend to visit your brother annually.
WELDON SIR. Hahahahaha... best answer for the nagging fellow... |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 4:33pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Baywood: I understand. I can't explain. And you can't explain. This is why no one can unilaterally say my chance is slim. Is he an ECO?
Yes, I will explain why my brother is sponsoring me. He's more financially capable than me. He's my brother. He's my elder brother.
They listed possible persons that can sponsor one.
I have read about people that sponsored themselves and they have strong account balance and the money was not lodgement, yet they were denied. Can you explain why?
You are also telling me that if my friend provides accommodation and feeding for me, I will be denied since free things can make me stay. How did you arrive at that conclusion? I should stay in a hotel, abi?
Just give your opinion and make it a dialogue so that we reason together, not writing conclusively as if you work with UK immigration. Am done with u |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 4:11pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Baywood: So, if my account is ok, no need for my brother to sponsor me? I see.
And since my account is ok, I should stay in a hotel and not at my friend's house. You try. Are you asking a genuine question or you want to mock us  On the application form, you would be asked automatically in the system why your sponsor is sponsoring you. No one says your brother can not sponsor you. The ECO would definitely question why you need the funds. So the onus is on you to convince them. You can have two people in exactly the same situation as you, one gets a visa and the other doesn't. Can you explain why this is so  |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 4:04pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Baywood: Thank you.
So, if I have a friend that has invited me to spend my vacation with his family, I should stay in a hotel and feed myself in order to convince the ECO?
My account is ok. I have been in active employment for 8 years. Bro, if you are not gonna accept advice you'd better not bother posting here. No one is an ECO, but remember this forum has been on for a while now and the longest participants have seen people's experiences as posted here. You can get advice which would emanate from what people have actually experienced and shared here. People come here and ask initial incomprehensive questions and when they get constructive advice, they pour out more information. Then it seems the applicant is debilerately being discouraged. You have finally said your account is ok. Fine then. Why did you come here to seek opinion? If you know it all, then hit the 'apply' button already. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 8:16pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Solatium: There is no way someone who was refused a visa in May 2017 as an Msc Student will have 6 months Pay slip or 6 months salary remittance in her account even if she got employed in june of the same year,This is September,it will make a whole lot of sense to push her application till early next year,I can bet my bottom naira that her application will be refused again if she make one now....just calm down for now and wait till early next year to have gathered some months of work experience, That's why I stated 6 months within which the applicant's circumstances would have changed. Yeah, applicant should hold on for now... |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 2:37pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Darla: Hello sir, Okay. Thank you There is a heading of 'Administrative Review'. What information is there? Look at any following pages of the letter. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 2:35pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
[quote author=gracykay post=60781732][/quote]Are you a freelancer? I mean, are you self employed or do you receive salary and payslips associated with such salary payments? If you are on payroll and receive monthly salary, then include payslips to match salary inflows in your bank statements. If you do any other personal jobs for clients, then you need to include transaction documents which state how much these clients have paid you as they reflect in your bank statements.
Having personal and savings in one account is not a problem, but you have to explain any inflows not generated from your payslips.
I won't advise against staying over at your boyfriends. Other people here can input equally. But you would need to include documents about your boyfriend's status in the UK and livelihood as long as he was not mentioned as an issue in your previous refusal letter. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 2:02pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Tfree: Hi Justwise,
My husband and I would like my 21yr old brother to visit and spend Xmas with us this year in Scotland just for two weeks. We are fully sponsoring his journey, he’ll be staying with us. However, he’s a student, he has his finally exams and thesis next year. I’m aware it will be difficult once he’s graduated to visit us, so just want to use the opportunity for him to physically meet his two nephews, until they are old enough to journey to Nigeria.
What are his chances of being granted being a student, we have all necessary documents from our side that I can think of and can financially more than cover his journey. We’ve had my mum spend Xmas with us in 2013 (he’s documented in her form as a dependent as he was under 18 then), so i’m aware for documents required for a worker, but not sure for students applying for visitors visa. What supporting documents would he need apart from letter from his school, proof of studying at Uni, his bank statement. Do we need any documents from of our parents, although he’s an adult but he’s dependent on them financially for everything.
Also, it’ll be his first time of applying to any embassy. We are hoping to apply in the next couple of weeks. I hope we haven’t left it too late to apply.
Many thanks In addition to what you listed and what @Justwise added, I think you might need some proof of your relationship with him. Maybe his birth certificate as well as your birth certificate as they both would have same parents' names. Then point this out in a cover letter. Also if you have proof of communication, like chats or call logs, it would come handy. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 1:09pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
gracykay: Hello house. I was refused a uk visa in may 2017 because I had no personal ties here. I was a masters student then and had no job because I had to quit work for school. I stated in my application that my boyfriend(a british citizen)who was inviting me was going to be my sponsor. I had about 700k in my account but I was refused visa. I want to reapply by next year and I want to know every possible documentation that will required of me. I work in a law firm now as an associate and earn 250k per month. I want to reapply sponsoring myself. What do I need to do to get it right this time around. Please point out all the supporting documents I need to attach. @justwise, ekpotek, blessedgeorgeus, brightingsus and every other guru in the house. Your desire to sponsor yourself is probably the best approach as against being sponsored by your UK boyfriend as they place very minimal importance to sponsorship across partners in boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. For one to sponsor their partner in such a relationship you would go through the eye of a needle to be able to convince the Entry Clearance Officer that you, as the applicant, are a genuine visitor who would return back to Nigeria without overstaying. On face value, 9/10 they see such an applicant as a potential overstayer. I can see why you were denied previously; undertaking a masters programme in Nigeria is not a tie. People sometimes abandone a degree programme with much longer duration than a masters. First of all, decide in yourself how you want to spend your holiday in the UK, how many days for and where you would stay. Make a list of the atttactions you would like to visit and ensure your chosen accommodation, if no UK host, is near the attractions. Draw up your budget and make sure it is reasonable considering your bank balance and your monthly salary. In your list of documents, consider including the following... 1. Employment Contract letters 2. Last 6 months payslips (with most recent month within 30 days of application) 3. Last 6 months bank statements (with most recent month within 30 days of application) 4. Proof of your family ties in Nigeria 5. Proof of your current housing in Nigeria, like rental agreements and rental receipts and the like 6. Proof of membership to any professional or social groups in Nigeria, if applicable 7. Proof of Uk accommodation, like booked hotels. Note, you can book hotels on hold without paying. Choose hotels with free cancellation. If you have a UK host, remember you would have to get their documents like tenancy agreement and utility bills and proof of your relationship to them. The above list is not 100% comprehensive. Other docs can be added, but those are the ones I can say on my feet. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 8:26pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
yolemum: Hello house....thanks to all the advice and responses to people's questions. God bless. Please I need to clarify something....is visa4uk.fco.gov.UK no longer the website for online application? Please I need responses if am on the right track or won't they accept application from this site again? There are two platforms on which an online visa application can be made. They are all acceptable. Find them below... Visa Application sites... Old systemhttps://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/home/welcomeNew systemhttps://visas-immigration.service.gov.uk/product/uk-visit-visa |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 1:21pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
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Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 1:12pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
nikkyshyne: Hi. May I ask... If a boyfriend is inviting a gf over, must call logs be provided? or any other form of proofs? If there are no call logs, what are the chances? Thank you.
Visiting visa. There is no law that says call logs must be there. But if you do not have call logs then your chances of getting a visit visa are very slim. There is no binding relationship here. The relationship is by word of mouth. "Be my girlfriend and I will be your boyfriend"... It is very hard for a girlfriend to get a visit visa to go visit the boyfriend in the UK, or vice versa, in today's real world. That does not mean visa is automatically refused, but the ECO will be very stringent. So call logs can boost your chances. Even at that, it will be difficult. Nevertheless, to stand a chance the applicant MUST HAVE VERY STRONG TIES TO NIGERIA. The applicant must have a very good job and should be in a position to pay for the whole trip, not hinging the application on the boyfriend being their sponsor. Being financially stable in your home country is key in this situation. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 12:24pm On Sep 23, 2017*. Modified: 1:20pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
Darla: Good day, the answer to your question is YES. The requirement states that a letter from an A-rated sponsor will suffice if the partner is in their employment (in this case, her husband). That's why that wasn't even mentioned as an issue in the refusal. And all these docs were provided and details of it also mentioned in her 2-paged letter of sponsorship. And yes, they(the church) are also the ones who paid for visa and all, and who will also pay her flight ticket to d UK when granted visa. It is the way they've done it for years for spouses of their pastors who aren't resident in the UK.
The UK church is talking about getting the opinion of some immigration lawyers and if she can go ahead and do the review, it will be filled from there, which takes 14days.
The alternative will be to do a fresh application.
I think the major issue was the fact that their proof of relationship wasn't convincing enough. They didn't have any issues with the sponsor part.
Thank you  Yes, you are right. The church paying or being significant in the application is not the issue. I never said it was. I was answering you as you wondered why they reckoned the applicant's husband to be the sponsor. The church might be an A rated sponsor, however, for a spouse or dependant visa, the Partner is the sponsor; not sponsoring the trip but sponsoring the applicant's livelihood whilst in the UK.
The proof of relationship was not convincing, like you said. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 9:19am On Sep 23, 2017 |
Darla: Thank you, this is helpful. The husband has been in d UK since 2013, his visa was extended in 2015 for another 3yrs. That's until late 2018. Why are they saying he is sponsor when the church is sponsor? It is well. I'll ask her to find out what and what is required for review. Thank you so much. I asked u a question previously, why is church (or pastor) the sponsor Is she gonna live in church  Is church to provide the financial commitments towards the visa? The church can't be the sponsor. What are they sponsoring really? The UK partner/husband to whom she's going to the Uk to live with is naturally regarded as the sponsor. This is not like a political party where there are godfathers who sponsor candidates. The applicant submitted the husband's documents including employment details and living, this naturally makes him the sponsor. It could be because of church involvement and pastoral tie that the applicant's husband is in the Uk, but the husband is the sponsor. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 7:41am On Sep 23, 2017*. Modified: 8:22am On Sep 23, 2017 |
Darla: Thank you for your reaction to this. First and foremost I will post the list of submitted docs: 1. International Passport with husband's last name. 2. Marriage certificate from federal marriage registry in Abuja. 3. Pictures from registry wedding( all photocopied at TLS and originals returned to her) 4. Husband's passport bio-page with visa/leave to remain 5. Evidence of visa fees&Health surcharge fees. 6. Tuberculosis test result from IOM 7. Whatsapp and BBM chat history of about 4months(it was at least 100pages). She was skeptical about adding more since it wasn't originally requested for. 8. Other pictures they took together (he was in Nigeria twice to see her). - They had not done engagement/traditional marriage as at time of application. But that has been done now(this month) 9. Letter of sponsorship from husband's church(who is employer). Stating the husband's details as their employee, his wife details, etc. On letter-headed paper, stamped and signed. He's a full time pastor. And the church is listed as "A-rated" 10. Husband's bills and rent agreement. 11. Birth certificates(husband & wife) 12. Print out of visa application form(since it was submitted online) 13. Passport photograph.
It is a tier-2 dependant visa she applied for. Because the husband has a tier-2 visa (Minister of Religion). Most or all of the pastors from what I gathered, this is the same type of visa their wives apply for.
P.S: call log wasn't two days AT ALL. There was more. She submitted application online on the 12th of August, Biometrics and all was on the 15th of August. They said it takes 15days maximum to get the visa but it took 5weeks. But they kept emailing her.
I'll ask her again if there's anything I omitted from this list. Thank you
Their relationship not marriage began in 2015, they got married in July 2017 at the registry. And did the traditional marriage just 3weeks ago. He was around for about two months- work leave. This was also mentioned in her application (leave from work). And he was around with her to do her visa application.
I clearly understand that may be they wanted more proof (the entry and exit stamps on his passport wasn't attached).
And the chat and call history was at least 800pages, from November 2015. So maybe they should have added everything.
But my question now is, what can be done? This relationship is genuine. And they have been long distant, and now that they are married is an opportunity for them to finally be together. Her husband has been in the UK since 2013. Hmmm, this list, if accurate, does not warrant the type of refusal the applicant got, this is the reason I always encourage people to mark in asterisks (*) all lines in their documents relating to them in particular, like phone calls between applicant and sponsor, etc... Would I say it's oversight on the part of the clearance officer  Emphatically NO. The applicant failed to establish the basic elements of the application. This is not a visit visa but a dependant visa. If visit, these things would not have been so looked into. The onus was on the applicant to establish how she met with the husband. The sponsor has been in the UK since 2015 and met the wife the same 2015. WHERE AND HOW; INTERNET, ONLINE CHURCH CONFERENCE, OR AT ONE OF THE VISITS TO NIGERIA? That's where the doubt creeped into the mind of the ECO. Also, not having Entry and Exit stamps on sponsor's passport was a killer. That is a way to say a relationship is solidified when parties, who live separately, meet face to face. Providing marriage certificate, like I said previously, is crippled if alone. Even when we go for work interviews, they ask you to give a background of yourself. This background the applicant failed to give. It seemed like it was just mentioned in the application that applicant and sponsor met in 2015. Got married in registry in Abuja with marriage certificate and pics from the event. This is shabby. But let me not assume... The applicant would have done well by mentioning how they met.... for eg, the applicant (or sponsor) could say they met the partner in ****** town in Nigeria on ** day of **** 2015 during one of the sponsor's visits to Nigeria to specifically see the wife to be. Then make sure that the date coincides with when they were actually in Nigeria. If they ever travelled locally together then an itinerary ticket showing both their names, maybe flying across states in Nigeria. Also, the applicant could have included money remittance receipts, as they show in her bank statements, of the periods the sponsor sent her money. I may not know how the administrative review is done, but I am giving you what should have been included. Make enquiries to find out if more documents can be included in the review, then you should be fine. |
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 10:59pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
Darla: Good evening all. I hope our day's going well? My sister has been refused her UK visa to join her husband who is a full-time pastor with one of the the big churches. Please find attached the letter that came with the refusal. She submitted everything they asked for. Please I'd like some advice and pointers to what to do next. She applied in exactly 6weeks ago. With an "A-rated sponsor". 1. Her sponsor is her husband's employer(the church). There was a letter from them. 2. She submitted husband's documents(utility bills, rent agreement, his visa, etc.) 3. Marriage cert., pictures from registry, health surcharge...In short, the whole nine yards.
And they have concluded all the traditional and church wedding ceremonies last weekend.
So what do we do? She is devastated and I live in Europe. The least I could do is help her fire back.
Thank you.
cc justwise
Please have a look... You're the pro From the refusal letter, the application was done shabbily... I would assume. The applicant failed to establish a binding relationship with the partner. Imagine, a call Log for 2 days. Haba!!! You need call Log of at least 3 months with no break in between. What type of visa was applied for anyway? List in full the documents submitted and we will guide you further. The applicant needs to apply for administrative review at once. But we need to see what you submitted to see what was missing. First think about it, why should the ECO grant the applicant a visa to join the partner in UK? This is the question the ECO wanted the applicant to answer BY PROVIDING THE RIGHT DOCUMENTS. Bringing partner's utility bills etc means nothing if an applicant can't establish their relationship with their Uk partner. You say the applicant included marriage certificate and pix from registry. Those do not have establish a marriage. A wedding is different from marriage. Marriage is wedding, relationship, communication, etc. Also, concerning the sponsor, what is the main reason the sponsor was the partner's pastor? Just the fact a call log covering 2 days was submitted says a lot on how the application was done. |