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Not only your country but in my country too. We have prosperlty preaches, all qwisting the word to gain monies from the poor. Chuches are being built, for what reason? Driving fancy cars, bikes, and living up there kingdoms here on earth. The lord say's, in 1 Tim 6;3-5,if anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our lord jesus christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come evvy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglngs of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose the godliness is a means of Gain{money}.. From such with draw yourself..if this isn't telling you anything, then ask the lord to give you revalation. Yes it was the Catholic Church that brought the false doctrine into the system way back then, they needed the monies. But thats not the point. We have our churches today who use's that same system to gain monies, qwisting verses from the bible, so the poor and the needy give everything they have..These pastor's, are crimminals, it is no differnt to the worldly lust when it comes to money. So you as a christain, read and learn what the lord is teaching you. tell your brothers and sisters in the lord to follow the truth, because it's the truth that will set you free. My country maybe across the other side of the world from you. But prosperlty preaches are every where. Woves in sheep chothing... But you need to understand this-wisdom and knowledge comes from the lord. And the truth will set you free. The Catholic church started a system that makes MONEY. So as the world go's around, someone also CATCHES on to that system, {thinking} if its working for the Catholic's, well why not I, give that ago. And it worked. But it only worked because christain people are not seeking the lord-learning the truth, the same truth thats sets you free-but going to churches allowing the preachers to say and qwist the words as they please. So like sheep they follow. So now we have woles in sheep's chothing leading churches those who follow that same system. And as 1 Tim 6: 3-5 say's there will be always disputes, arguments, evil, suspicions, envy, strife, over words. Because we as christains know the truth, but just sit back and say nothing, crying out to the lord, wringing. and arguing, with disputes, because of dishoned Gain{money} In this world people will try anything to Gain it. Yes its crimminal in some cases. Amen.. MissMeiya: I actually have a friend who was arguing with me when I said Nigeria is the only place that practices tithing. He said it's a Catholic doctrine. -_- |
Tithing is a meaning of a percentage. Some give monies, believing it's there way to love the lord, others tithe giving only a pecentage to study the word of the lord. Jesus had argue'd with the priesthood back then, not because they paid tithes, but their hearts were far from loving God. And today, how far are you from the lord, are we only given him only that small percentage, all do we give all we have. Money can't buy love, but reading the word daily and seeking the lord, CAN.. ebenezer4o2: You mean anyone who gambles is irresponsible?After all,there are people who bought cars,building houses with the proceeds from betting which I've seen and known. |
If you believe that, then you had become christ like. meaning christian. MizMyColi: |
You need revelation brother.. Pauloo2: WHAT AN EYE OPENING TESTIMONY, |
God knew the plans-he had in the garden of eden, by placing the tree of good and evil, and without knowledge and wisdom we humans fail everytime. God gave adam a job to do, which he did, and adam wanted someone equal to him, god made him eve, and adam was decieved in love by the woman. Same with eve. And yes eve was deceived by satan of old, and both ate the fruit. So now this is the fun part, we all know what is good and evil. and we all know we have a choice, and what better way in life we decide who we follow. The same choice the lord God gave to adam and eve when in the garden. It was god's plan-to give us a freewill life. And for those who choose to follow the lord, has been set free from that curse that happen at the beginning.. Thats why we have a Heaven and Hell. CHOOSE...quote author=BabaGnoni] Thanks MarkMiwerds would you also agree or refute in additions to your replies that: #1) "greatly increase or multiply her conception" note not "greatly multiply her sorrow in conception" actually has to do with accelerating or speeding up the gestation cycle in anticipation of man's redemption ( i.e. coming of God in the passage of time through Mary) #2) Would also agree or not that Adam actually triggered on the curse on Earth, bear in mind that Adam too was earth, so by association, the earth became corrupt on account of Adam, with "thorns and thistles" etc sprouting out #3) You said "God allowed Eve to live because of Grace. As I said, He could have spoken a word and removed her completely. But we see in the second Chapter of Genesis that God put the woman and man together as husband and wife. They were now one flesh. God had given the woman to the man to be his help meet and his wife. To remove her would have left Adam incomplete. We also see in the fifteenth verse of Chapter 3, the prophecy that our Lord would be born through Eve's family line. So, in my thoughts, Eve was spared that we might ultimately know Christ." Would you also agree or not, that Eve was part of the master plan. She was God's backdoor, not literally though, but at least you know what am getting at or mean (i.e. among other things Eve to Adam, she was also God's back up plan) Eve was to be Adam's salvation before Jesus Christ. #4) You also said "The Law was given that man might learn to fear God" Is this the law in Eden you are inferring to here, or the law in the wilderness? #5) Lastly, bro, I still do not get the connection of the Cross with the pre-Fall. Why? There must have been something God was after in Eden before the fall (i.e. something He aimed or wanted to deal with once and for all) Whats your thoughts on this? Thanks in advance and after this, you may step down, as I wont have any further questions. Cheers.[/quote] |
Before you go to sleep ask the lord you want a godly dream, tell the demons to leave. In jesus name. It works every time... ghettodreamz: Bro, all those points you highlighted above can do the magic, all you need do is turn them to prayer points, observe maybe a 3-day fasting and prayer, do away from sin, meditate on the word of God and with faith, God Almighty - through our Lord Jesus Christ will grant you victory. Please note, battle of life is a continuous war, and you must not cease praying to overcome the people of the underworld and their vices. |
Mathew; 23-23 The tithing was a law, which says in Hebrew 7 -11 it clearly says; Need for a new priesthood. Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood{for under the people received the law}, what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron. For the priesthood being changed, of NECESITY there also a change of the law. for he whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar. For it is evident that our lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning the priesthood. And it is yet far MORE evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises an other PRIEST. Who has come, NOT according to the LAW of Fleshly Commandments, but according to the power of the endless life. For he testifiies; You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek." For on the one hand there is an annaulling of the former Commandment because of its WEAKNESS and unprofitableness. For the LAW made nothing perfect; on the other hand, There is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. READ THE REST TO CHAPTER 9, THE LORD MADE THE NEW COVENANT. This is so clear. But yet all I here is the blind leading the blind.. Rich4god: Cant stop laffing.... Did you see how you shot yourself in the leg... I thought you said you were a prophet, is this the kind of interpretation your prophet spirit gives to you. Its people like you that Christ is speaking against in that particular verse that you gave above. You have so much focused on tithe that you have failed to heed the simplest of the commandment of God. How does that verse encourage tithing. I just SMH for some christians these days... Frosbel, you need to see this... |
Mark 12 41-44. The lord talks more on given, If you read it clearly; the lord speaks on how the rich gave from their abundance, which is the tithe and the widow gave all that she had, which is giving, and the lord said; that the woman was blessed more then the tithers. And then when you read to chapter 13 Vs 1. you see the Lord predicts the destruction of that same temple, that tithers tithe into, So ask yourself, if the lord wanted us to tithe today, then why did Jesus tare down the temple? And over the years everytime it was built again, it was torn down. Not one stone was left apon another, that shall not be thrown down. So if the lord wanted us to tithe, that temple would be still standing today. And it says clearly, In 1 timothy 6,1-6 if anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud knowing nothing, but is absessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come enry, strife, reviling, evil supicions, unless wranglings of minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose the godliness is the means of Gain{money} From such withdraw yourself. But godliness with contentment is great Gain...1 Peter 5-2 clearly says, Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, servicing as overseer's not by constraint but willingly, not for dishonest Gain but eagerly....So if tithing, is the princables to be saved, then the blood of jesus isn't enough to cover me, I have to pay my way into heaven aswell.... ProphetUdeme: mark 12 vs 41-44 the Lord Jesus told us the true guide to paying tithes..... Tithes is a command..... Matthew 23 vs 23 is also another of Christ's words concerning tithes |
Tithing was a law from the past, the lord clearly says you can't worship mammon and God at the same time, you either love one and hate the other. Look at the birds of the air they neither sow, nor reap, or put into barns, but yet the Lord feeds them, how much more are you. I'm no tither but I do give, and I give alot of my time into the word of God. I want truth, no more lies or even false doctrine; first seek the kingdom of the lord, and all things shall be added to you, recently My Harley was knocked over in a shopping centre, I didn't see who done it, and I didn't get angry about it, but I prayed. I rode the bike home damaged and the lord seen my needs, and recently I was blessed with amount of monies, to fix my bike. I'm blessed. And yet I don't tithe. but seek the truth. Gombs: Open a thread for that |
[color=#000099][/color] OLAADEGBU:You say no anti-tither can prove to you that he hears God. I'm no tither- and I have been healed, and still I hear from god. But I don't have to prove that to you. I Have seen the damages some tithers believe in, after given 10% or more, they worship the monies more than the Lord. Some say it takes up too 3 yrs before your havest comes. Thats a lot of waiting. but yet I'm blessed, why? because I seek the truth. And the truth will set you free.. When I first became a christain I also followed suit, not kowing the word of God, I tithed, not by heart, but I was told by the church I had too. I had always been a giver, even before the lord had called me. I was a Robin Hood in the old days-and I still give. But given when the lord tells me to give, it shows me the true meaning in giving. to see someone truely blessed, and I jump for joy, and blessed aswell.. The tithing has done alot of damages to christains, pastor, chuches, making you feel you are cursed, if you dont tithe. Churches are empty today, and I vistit christains who still tithe, and they pray; that their money harvest 100% would come back to them, wrong teachng, you cant worship mammon and God at the same time, we watch pastors get richer while we watch our monies buy their kingdoms on earth. When I have asked where my tithes go, I was told its none of my bussiness? And while speaking I see my tithes{pastor} jump on a new Harley, or jump into a new BMW [car} traveling to and fro, living in one of his/hers, great big houses, while I'm still living the street life, I can't afford the rent, because my tithing go's to the church plus traveling fee's petol pays out more then I earn. But No good arguing about this subject, because the truth will set you free. now I don't tithe, but still I'm giving. and my life has been much healther and blessed, as I choose to seek the lord, and most of all I have been set free. recently I had been blessed with monies from the lord, how can that be? anochuko01: concerning the issue of tithing, when compared to this present dispensation, its MUCH MORE EASIER TO PRACTICE. Whats difficult or bad in contributing 10% of my earnings for the propagatn of God's work? The little money Jesus used during his ministry, aw did he get it? Wasnt it through contributns of his disciples? |


