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NoFilter67:
I'm really sorry about that, I was raised better but this is nl, lil bit of madness is needed here. Peace sir/ma'am

Personally speaking, madness is madness, and the not-mad should be immune to madness wherever they are least they themselves be seen as being mad.

Besides, don't you think there's enough madness here already? We need more sane people please, be they liberals or conservatives or Democrats or Republicans.

NoFilter67:
To other AAs, I mean the ones with a functional brain. I'm sorry for the mean words. God keep y'all safe.

Apology accepted, with reservations however.

Kopfschmerzens:
I don't have no problem with em continental Africans, i was even in Ghana last year for the year of return and planning on investing in an African country. But y'all gat a shiitload of these loser that just keep hating on us for no fucccking reason.

Enough with the "y'all" already!

One "shiitload loser" don't make us all "shiitload losers", and I obviously don't "gat" that "shiitload loser" going by the effort I'm taking to educate that shiitload loser's rather very ignorant ass!

Amujale:
I never mentioned anything about Obama.

Its you who wants to make it about Trump and Obama.

Where did you see any mention of Obama?

When a person says, "best president", and "The president to use his powers to pardon the most blacks from prison", a 'comparison of Presidents is implied, and it would not be odd for a reasonable person to make such comparisons between the president you did mention and the immediate past president, unless your claim is now, "best president except President Obama"!

Amujale:
Trump is currently one of the best presidents for the African American community that they have ever had.

Amujale:
ℹThe president to use his powers to pardon the most blacks from prison.

Amujale:
You point out the false abuse of power, i point out that the figures are inflated, what is your point?

Are you saying that Trump hasnt pardoned the most African Americans in his first term?

Yes, I am saying "Trump hasn't pardoned the most African Americans in his first term". (The struckout bit is an irrelevant addition and implies a comparison of first terms which was never made in your initial statement!)

And I am not pointing out the abuse of power! Its just a part of an article that points out the number of people pardoned.

Please provide uninflated figures for those pardoned by Obama and Trump, since you must have them to make the claim you made.

NoFilter67:
slowpoke. See your ancestors. You should be grateful they didn't purge ya ancestors immediately slave trade was abolished.

You are utterly shameless! They were captured and sold by your ancestors!

Kopfschmerzens:
Is that somefin to be ashamed of??

Perhaps remind him its better to be a slave than be the person who sold slaves.

The white slave buyers did not after all come on to our land and capture slaves, it was we who shamelessly sold our own folks to them.

You obviously love making up stuff inside your head despite contrary evidence, and need to learn that alternative facts are just lies!

DCatt:
[s]You mean the trap Obama set that is now blowing in his face?.[/s]

Amujale:
I never once said that Trump has pardoned more people than Obama.

What i clearly stated was that: "Trump is the president to use his powers to pardon the most African Americans from prison".

You have not provided one single piece of evidence for this claim.

And I am telling you that since Trump has not pardoned a tenth of those Obama pardoned, and since Obama could not possibly have only pardoned whites, it's highly unlikely your claim could be true. However, please educate me with facts.

Amujale:
My response was to this post.

That Facebook post is false.

That's what the article I posted says! But it referred to the claim of "abuse of power" alledged for the number of people pardoned, and not whether the actual figures were false.

Please read the article if you wish to continue this. I have provided numerous sources for the actual figures.

restore8:
Thank you for your comments. I was asking why we dont have much of them. It would be very nice if you could address that.

Do you know how many Christians are billionaires before claiming you "don't have much of them"?

Maybe they just are proper Christians. The sort who don't go about boasting how much money they have.

Amujale:
Commutations arent pardons.

First, I am aware that you and I, despite our differences in the past, maintain some sort of respect and regard for one another, which makes me regard you even more despite our differences, but I suspect you are not reading what I post, and I find that insulting and a waste of my time.

Please confirm that Trump has not pardoned as many as the 212 that Obama pardoned.

I don't think you read what I posted, because it was not facebook, and said the facebook claim was false!

Amujale:
The Facebook post is fake News.

www.polifact.com.

Politifact rates the post "mostly false"

The claim that Obama: 1,927, Trump 26 is false.

The number for Obama is the total acts of clemency for all his terms in office - pardons plus sentence commutations. But only about 11% of those was pardons.

Furthermore,

ℹObama issued many more pardons and sentence commutations than Trump, largely in his second term.

ℹObama followed a clemency policy aimed at relativeky low-level offenders and relied on Justice Department recommendations.

ℹTrump has largely acted outside the normal review process, most recently giving clemency to high-profile. i.e General Flynn

ℹTrump had at the time taken 35 clemency actions more than cited in the facebook post. Roughly two-thirds of them was pardons, including two posthumous ones.

Horlayhemy:
Says who? Google is help.

Maybe he hasn't got the data.

http://sundayadelajablog.com/worlds-richest-christians-including-nigerias-billionaire-baroness-folorunsho-alakija/

Amujale:
Eventhough i dont intend to turn this into a Trump vs Obama thing, hence i stated than any former presidency.

Firstly, pardons are different from commutations.

Trump has pardoned more blacks than Obama did during his first office and possibly overall.

Evidence please, because the facts I've seen do not agree with what you claim here.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump?wprov=sfla1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Barack_Obama?wprov=sfla1

DCatt:
If Biden and other care and believe that they wouldn't leave empty shelves, Bush who went through Katrina still left the stock filled up for Obama, but Obama didn't do his part as expected. Biden and especially Fauci and the rest of the swamp said it because and like they knew the schedule for it, I posted the video few weeks ago.

Anyone can leave a useless piece of paper behind, but it's useless as every president has it's own policy, all that it's required from them is to pass what every predecessor left to successor.

Below should tell you that Obama left America vulnerable on purpose.

You are aware that Obama prepared the best handover ever, and Trump wanted nothing to do with it, right?

Besides, don't you find it odd to claim Obama left America vulnerable three and some years after leaving office? Was Trump still waiting to be President perhaps, or was three and some years not long enough for him to be the responsible Commander in Chief?

Timbuktuo:
Feel free to post where I disputed it. You need not assume, I have neither edited nor deleted any comments I made in this thread

The way you use the word "perception" makes it sound like you dispute facts you refuse to perceive, as if covering one's eyes would make facts disappear. But if you stop implying it, I'd stop inferring.

Amujale:
Yes, there are ongoing investigations.

I am very certain you are aware of my inability to believe.

Please provide some evidence for your claim.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01/hillary-clinton-justice-department-investigation-results

Timbuktuo:
I said 8% is perception? I would advise you to go see what comment o responded to. Stop putting words in my mouth.

You do seem to keep disputing the fact.

DCatt:
And one other thing I still don't understand about Obama is the way he treated the Obama's family whose name he used to get to the white house, though he may not be a blood relation of theirs. He gave $153 billion to Iran and $7 billion to Kenyan govt but couldn't direct them to give $1 million to Obama's family to share. The children of the late Barrack Obama are still in the slum literally starving in homes with windows made with gari sacks.

Was the "$153 billion to Iran and $7 billion to Kenyan govt" his personal money?

Is he allowed to give government money to his family?

Timbuktuo:
Fair point. At the end of the day, it’s all about perception like I said earlier. After all, Buhari has his avid supporters

8% is not perception, Timbuktuo. It's a fact, whether you accept it or not

Amujale:
Not really.

There needs to be a thorough and impartial investigation regarding these incidents of deleting 30,000 emails.

Noone is meant to be above the law.

Is there an ongoing investigation on this issue, because, as far as I found, this has been concluded.

There's even some, including myself, who are of the opinion that an investigation into this issue, after which it was "recommended that no charges be filed", lost her the election.

Amujale:
My name isnt Amu but Amujale.

Perhaps you dont mean any malice but i need to stress that Amu has an altogether different meaning.

Cheers.

Because you have given me the benefit of the doubt, you will henceforth be Amujale.

Amujale:
ℹThe president to use his powers to pardon the most blacks from prison.
Its important to note that the pardon "is granted in recognition of the applicant's acceptance of responsibility for the crime" and "is not a sign of vindication and does not connote or establish innocence."

You would need to provide evidence for this, as Trump hasn't even pardoned a tenth of the people Obama pardoned, and Obama could not possible have not pardoned a proportional number of blacks.

As for the rest of your claims, you really need to look beyond what Trump wants you to believe to start with and perhaps take current evidence into consideration.

Amujale:
For espionage, treason and other nefarious activities.

Are we forgetting that she was subpoenaed and ended up deleting over 30,000 emails.

Hasn't this been investigated and concluded, Amu?

Babacele:
Presently I'm reading 1984 too. With my wide sympathies, I m promiscuous when it comes to reading . From Maria Correli, Blavatsky, John Grisham, Archer, Ludlum, Chase, Denis Robins, Glenn Meade, Barbara Taylor, Daniel n Danielle Steele, " Acid Raine " , Thomas Akempis" , all AMORC writings, Achebe, Soyinka, Ancient history, Barrack Obama, Clinton, Bush, El Rufai, TB Joshua, etc I read all. But I would prefer mysticism and kindred topics presently. Isis unveiled is a Revolution .Thanks. I

Book mentioned here should interest you.

TrajansKong:
The child is possessed by demons.

He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Proverbs 13:24

So it has been written. So it shall be done.

No she isn't "possessed by demons"! Its you who obviously wants to kill the Spirit God placed in her to make her use her God given brain that is obviously possessed by something! People like you would have taken the rod to Jesus! Thankfully, she is not your daughter!

Op, give your daughter a Bible and tell her to find the answer in there please and then educate you!

And make sure you say the please!

formaxy:
1. Where are these photographic evidences of Lunar eclipse occurring with the moon clearly visible?
2. Where are photos of these celestial bodies that you claim are responsible for eclipses?
3. Modern science is centred around verified facts and mathematics not ancient claims which cannot be validated.

Ever heard of Ultracrepidarianism?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/10319587_notable00692_jpeg4e2d783e712ca2eb276394d095905ac5

Zuorom:
I didn't say every one on the left is a miscreant. I specifically mentioned Antifa

You did assume everyone on the left supports Antifa!

Zuorom:
That's the Antifa miscreants you people on the left support.

The girl with the megaphone is "on the left", yet she's pleading with the "miscreants" to stop.

You need to not paint everyone with the same brush. It just shouts, "laziness".

Some children will curse their parents!

Olusholar24:
Can you see 11 months ago on the picture you shared ?

Yes now. Did you not see it. Let me enlarge it for you, though you might want to consider glasses.