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Christianity Etc › Re: We Have Been Lied To The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe by budaatum: 1:09am On Jun 03, 2020

aadoiza:
Emily, come o. A few days ago dem say dem NASA travelled with some, who are not NASA, people to the ISS in a shuttle. How would you disprove this?

Let me, please. And I'm calling on my good friend Amujale to check out my factual assertion.

There was really no Space X. The entire thing was staged in an MGM studio with the help of Disney and Sony. In fact, there's really nothing like NASA. Just a couple of guys - and they are indeed guys - with a camera making movies to fool everyone, though I bet you thought you were smart, lol.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Explains Why Lucifer Is Not Satan by budaatum: 12:57am On Jun 03, 2020

Kobojunkie:
What freeze said is right. The word LUCIFER should not have been introduced into the Bible by King James.

Perhaps. But there it is for us to understand in such a way that God is glorified by our doing, notwithstanding.

And God continue to bless Daddy Freeze and the dead King James for making us think.

Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Explains Why Lucifer Is Not Satan by budaatum: 12:54am On Jun 03, 2020

Kobojunkie:
But he did not interpret the scripture --- He simply pointed out what those who have in fact read the book as is would have seen.
For example, in Revelation 22 vs 16-17, we see Jesus announcing Himself as the Morning-star.

But wait, the name Lucifer also means morning star/bringer of light. See?

You've chosen a very important verse. And what I'm about to write will sound like devil worship, and if you dare believe a single word I write here you will burn in the hottest part of hell with me!

Go back to Adam and Eve naked in the Garden of Eden. “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. We read in chapter 3.

Try abandoning all you've been told to believe. Shouldn't you wonder why a Lord God Almighty would want His creations to be ignorant and not know good and evil and be naked in the Garden of Eden? Does that not sound more like Adam and Eve were slaves, and what an evil person would do to them? Can ignorant people who do not know about good and evil do what God told Adam to do, which is "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth"? Can ignorant people be blessed? In fact, is it not true that we often claim that our Northern brothers and sisters are kept ignorant just so their leaders can better exploit them? And why, for Christ sake, would a God who doesn't want its creations to know good and evil give its creations the ten commandments which is precisely a lesson in good and evil? Would the same Jesus who used his Knowledge of Good and Evil to conquer Satan when he was tempted on the mountain advocate that one should not eat of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and remain ignorant and naked. Can ignorant people respond to Satan as he did?

You might note that the serpent did not lie, and Adam and Eve did not "surely die", and their eyes opened, though some would claim they did die despite going on to live for almost 800 years, we read, after expulsion from Eden. But of course, that's not what is taught. And God forbid that we refuse to believe what we are told to believe and assume Jesus the Morning Star and Bringer of Light and opener of the eyes of the blind taught exactly what the Serpent commonly known as Lucifer the Morning Star and Bringer of Light taught, thereby freeing us from our slave master which is blind ignorance and certain early death!

I'm claiming the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is not so much the Bible itself, but a proper understanding of the Bible, hence, "the fruit" and not just "the tree". But if Satan can meddle in the Garden of Eden, it can meddle in how scripture is understood and even in how it's been interpreted. It sure is devilish to merely believe as Satan is said to believe and tremble instead of seeking to understand. Thankfully, the Bible is just the tree. And one must cultivate trees to get fruits from it.

But as I said, you will join me in the hottest part of hell if you believe a single word I've written here instead of seeking understanding. For it is indeed written that "people die because they lack knowledge". And believing does not mean one has knowledge, as we find when we go to school.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Explains Why Lucifer Is Not Satan by budaatum: 12:00am On Jun 03, 2020

Kobojunkie:
I have seen the error and I know it came from King James and it appears an error in translation, but then who knows what was truly going through the mind of the king when the error was introduced -- it may have resulted from an error in interpretation.

I beg to differ, and think Freeze is very wrong (as much as I love what he does, which is, make people think by challenging their misconceptions).

As hoopernikao said "Interpreters and bible readers are the one who carried such meaning", but instead of blaming ourselves for the errors in our understanding, we pressume our understanding is perfect and it's the book that is in error.

You should try reading the Bible in the even worse translated Greek and Latin then see how far you got. Then imagine how little Bible knowledge we would have had if King James hadn't bothered to have it translated into English and mandated its reading in the English speaking world. We'd all have been reading a book in Arabic, I bet you, and understood even less.

The Bible is a rather big book and the KJV is difficult to understand. Many judge it and all other versions by what they are told instead of allowing the Holy Spirit and the brain in their heads to assist them in their own understanding.

That same KJV Freeze said promoted slavery is the same book some used to advocate the abolition of slavery and its now being read by both the one time enslaved and the former enslaver, and the enslavers have used it's principles to make their nation paradise just as the enslaved would, once we begin to fully understand what we read in it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 11:37pm On Jun 02, 2020

Dtruthspeaker:
Of course! You are not my creation, so I wasn't even trying,

Glad to hear.

Not to have the last word, but in my own opinion, there's so much more to Jesus than literally believing what we read and are told about him.

He, for instance, never believed the stuff that was believed in his day, and was crucified for daring to think and reason different to how those around him did. And when we become as little children and abandon the childish things that we are told to believe and start to use the brains that God has put into our heads instead, we too will be mightily blessed.

Anyway, I'm certain this won't be my last word here as Offpoint asked a thinking person's question and I'm interested in your response. Might I suggest however that you cut down on the insults and condemnations and lies, as its not exactly Jesus fertilized fruit.

Politics › Re: The Truth About Trump's Bible Photoshoot:Priest Teargassed to Make Way for Trump by budaatum: 11:15pm On Jun 02, 2020

Nuel4:
I normally hate Buhari but I have nothing against him in the handling of the coronavirus except that he didn't close the border in time. Every other thing he's done is just fine, not perfect but not bad either. I can't start slandering him because I hate him he didn't cause the outbreak and the whole world miscalculated and underestimated the virus. It's dishonesty to blame a single person.
In America, democrat governors in, New York, Michigan New Jersey and pennsylvania forced nursing homes to accept covid patients. Nursing homes that's filled with old people which resulted directly in over 25,000 deaths. Democrats state are responsible for 90% of the cases in USA but nobody talks about it they only blame Trump.

Respect your Buhari view. Thing with Trump, and his supporters it seems, is he's quick to take credit for the good times but the bad is always someone else's fault.

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Politics › Re: The Truth About Trump's Bible Photoshoot:Priest Teargassed to Make Way for Trump by budaatum: 10:56pm On Jun 02, 2020

Nuel4:
all hotels are shut down which means they will have to lay off workers, all airports are done for which means their employees are now unemployed. People who run small businesses are all closed down which means they will all file for unemployment. All schools are closed which means private schools will lay off all their staff. This is the reality worldwide. Tell me which one of these he had the power to stop from happening. The moment the country was shutdown people were bound to lose their jobs. It's simple economics

There are some who say the lockdown was a plan to destroy all Trump had done.

He could have prepared better for this pandemic. Obama left him with a plan in his handover notes but he couldn't even bother to read it, and did nothing until it was too late. He even refused to accept that was a pandemic and when he did he touted bleach and Chloroquine as a cure and blames WHO and China.

But we both know I'm lying. If Nigeria was in the situation America is now in, I trust you'd join me if I were to say Sai Bubu! Or wouldn't you? Be honest now.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 10:50pm On Jun 02, 2020

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes you must have the last words, go on say your piece, I won't stop you.

Love the reverse psychology, lol. You can't stop me even if you tried really really hard.

Politics › Re: The Truth About Trump's Bible Photoshoot:Priest Teargassed to Make Way for Trump by budaatum: 10:40pm On Jun 02, 2020

Guestlander:
The economy was already doing well under Obama. Trump inherited a great economy from Obama unlike the one Obama inherited from Bush.
Trump is a failure and a racist. By the way, what are the unemployment numbers today? 40 million unemployment due to his inept handling of the covid problem.

This sounds exactly how I'd write it, and have. Bet they won't have any of it though, despite current 20% unemployment.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 10:20pm On Jun 02, 2020

Dtruthspeaker:
And finally you've gone off the track and into pôtôpôtô. And the fruits (Ridicule, Mock, Slander of God- the Delightful Specialty of Your Depraved Evilness) i spoke of, has begun, As it was written!

Must be difficult for you to admit that you lack comprehension.

I'll pray to God on your behalf.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 9:15pm On Jun 02, 2020

Dtruthspeaker:
Paul and the Disciples learnt to know Satan and having known him, we easily See him, for Everyone who is Purely Evil, is Satan.

By his fruits (work, talk, views), we shall not only know you but See you.

You see my fruits?

One thing Jesus did was heal numerous people of their inability to use their senses. He "spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind with the clay, and sent them to wash in the pool of Siloam so they may wash and be able to use their senses" instead of creating unseen crap inside their own heads and lying that they sense it.

I'm so sorry, but I assumed you were a truth seeker, but it seems you are just another one of those people who create crap inside their own heads and believe it. May Christ spit on mud and make clay and rub it in your eyes so they may open and you learn to use your Jesus healed senses.

Politics › Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 8:56pm On Jun 02, 2020

SLAP44:
What I am trying explain is that Nigeria is too corrupt to be taxing anyone highly for now.

Please rephrase!

We Nigerians are too corrupt to be taxing anyone highly for now.

Those who tax us do not come from Mars. We Nigerians elect them from amongst our corrupt selves!

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Politics › Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 8:54pm On Jun 02, 2020

SLAP44:
That's US and Europe, people that worked for all their lives in Nigeria are still languishing in penury while their pensions were eaten by politicians.

Same will always happen to your tax and IGR.

I agree. So long as you continue to be irresponsible and don't monitor how your hard earned money that is collected as tax is spent.

The British have a name for your attitude. The call it Taxation Without Representation, and they shed blood to gain that representation.

Politics › Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 8:50pm On Jun 02, 2020

MinorityOpinion:
Is either anambra people are not paying tax or government officials are embezzling it, either is bad for development of a state

I blame the people if its the latter.

If they are paying tax, they should monitor how their hard earned money is spent, and if they don't they are irresponsible.

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Politics › Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 8:48pm On Jun 02, 2020

SLAP44:
Supposing I decide to keep my area tax free, does it mean the other area who are taxing their people to death are better?

First, I'm going to assume your area democratically elects its rulers.

So why assume you would all be so stupid that you would elect rulers who would "tax you to death"? Are the majority of the people living in your area so brain dead that they would not rather elect rulers who would tax them moderately and reasonably?

And secondly, If you keep your area tax free, please tell where you plan to get the money to fix your communual roads so you all can move around easily, and build gutters so your own collective poo don't stink you all to death, and fund the schools so your area is not full of ignorant people who would elect rulers who would tax you all to death?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 8:39pm On Jun 02, 2020

Dtruthspeaker:
I speak all the things that I have learnt from Him.

You have obviously not learnt all that Christ had to teach. His independence of thought, for instance, and him not believing like the Pharisees, the Sadducees and satan who trembles all do.

A waste of Christ is what I call it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 8:35pm On Jun 02, 2020

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes, I did and I am Very Very Sorry I Did, so now like Paul, I work for Him.

And Paul told you to call anyone who does not believe as you do, satan?

I guess you must have adopted the Pharisee in Paul then. Here them accuse Christ of demon possession just like you accuse me for thinking independently like Jesus too did which is why they killed him before lying to you that he died for your sins.

Politics › Re: Panic In Imo Community As Herdsmen Kill Security Operative by budaatum: 8:24pm On Jun 02, 2020

proeast:
When Mbaise people retaliate now the supreme Court governor will go and pay compensation to the terrorist herdsmen.

In Yorubaland, we say, ajẹ ke lana, ọmọ ku loni, ta ni ko sai mọ pe ajẹ lo pa ọmọ.

Translation: The witch cried last night and a child died today. Who doesn't know the witch killed the child.

There was once a tramadol addict in my village who stole my cattle. His son died, and he too died shortly after. Now no one messes with me least I kill them. I hopefully need not tell you how stupid we Yorubas can be of we believe that.

If "Mbaise people retaliate now" based on the information we have here someone must indeed pay compensation to those they retaliate on!

Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 8:15pm On Jun 02, 2020

Dtruthspeaker:
There isn't any question here. But if you are raising the issue of why sin abounds in the world, then I know you know the answer, which is basically because people are like you, which is you hate doing the good and right Things while you love pleasing yourself, without care or bother who or whom is Hurt.

And your Yous have become too many.

If Good abounded, there would be No Offences which would require No Remedy.

I guess you killed Christ for nothing then, since nothing much changed after you killed him.

If only you hadn't killed him and learnt from him instead. The world would have certainly become a better place.

Try it. Try letting good abound in your heart towards God's creation instead of assuming I am the devil and see how much better the world would be.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Such Thing As Paradise? by budaatum: 8:07pm On Jun 02, 2020

Amujale:
There's no such place as 'Paradise', lets instead work to make our world a better place.

Let our enemies be focused on a fictitious concept of paradise that doesnt exist, whilst we actually create one here on planet Earth.

Incidentally, this is the reasoning in Britain, where they do not wait to be rewarded in Paradise, but want their reward here on earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MwCUNgVdjE

budaatum:
Our problem is a lack of understanding of religion. We fill existence with crap we make up inside our heads and call it reality. UK was the same. Now they sing Blake's poem, and do not cease from building Jerusalem (they mean heaven) right here on earth.

And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold:
Bring me my Chariot of fire!

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land.

They are fruitful and increase in number, and fill the earth and subdue it. And rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.

And they are obviously blessed.

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Politics › Re: Panic In Imo Community As Herdsmen Kill Security Operative by budaatum: 7:59pm On Jun 02, 2020

ghettokid1:
Keep Shut!

And let ignorant people like you spew the unthinking rubbish you spew on here?

No chance. You can try to make me though if you have the balls.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 7:57pm On Jun 02, 2020

Dtruthspeaker:
I know you must see only that which is evil even after I have shown that it was the Good Plan of the Most High, for the Good purpose that mankind should not Die because of their serious offences done to Him and done Against Him, Which is shown in the Parable of the Vineyard!

Well it is only for those who know that they have sinned and are Truly sorry for offending the Innocent Most High, Who has done Only Good to Man but Man instead of being thankful rather repaid Him with Wickedness and Rebellion.

You have shown me nothing at all Dtruth. All you have done is repeat what you've been told to believe instead of using your own brain to reason.

If you did use your own brain, you'd wonder what benefit killing Christ has done to the world that has only increased in its evil doing since Christ was killed. And if you were honest with yourself you'd admit that all that stuff about him dying for your sins is a rather pointless belief if you continued sinning.

Politics › Re: Panic In Imo Community As Herdsmen Kill Security Operative by budaatum: 7:43pm On Jun 02, 2020

ghettokid1:
You re among the reason why Buhari is not performing

Thankfully you can't blame me nor Buhari for you not performing with your own brain!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answering OFFPOINT On His Question As To Why Christ Jesus Is A Perfect Sacrifice by budaatum: 7:39pm On Jun 02, 2020

Pity they "sacrificed him" instead of learning from him, though in reality they murdered an innocent man and convinced themselves God wanted him to be sacrificed!

I'm sure no one would accept that the killing of their school teacher is a suitable sacrifice for whatever reason, but I guess we must just believe what we are told instead of reasoning with the brain that God must have put in our heads!

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Politics › Re: Panic In Imo Community As Herdsmen Kill Security Operative by budaatum: 7:23pm On Jun 02, 2020

"We don't know who killed him", but "because of how brutally he was killed", let us just say "Fulani herdsmen killed him", because there is absolutely no way anyone in their community could possibly kill someone so brutally!

Sun and their irresponsible reporting. And readers with their no brains! We'd expect the culprits to be caught when we've already concluded Fulani herdsmen done it! Dream on, I say!

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Crime › Re: Why We Should Protest Now by budaatum: 7:16pm On Jun 02, 2020

TheSourcerer:
I tried nobody cared like they did not know what I was talking about

That's Naijapeople for you. We will not sacrifice for what we desire but want others to be our messiah and die for us.

If you stand there protesting long enough, they'd even say you are mad. Least, that's what they call me for making our library the best local government library in my State of Osun, instead of building myself a big house and driving a huge car.

Thankfully, after 20 years of it, I now have people in my hometown who appreciate the books and the opportunity it has provided them to expand their knowledge, and my own reward is a reduction in the number of stupid people around me.

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Crime › Re: Why We Should Protest Now by budaatum: 7:08pm On Jun 02, 2020

TheSourcerer:
wow, Is your dad a compol too?

No! He never worked for government because he could not be corrupt. He was a self employed lawyer and his clients were poor people who never had money to pay him.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:05pm On Jun 02, 2020

feedthenation:
Why can't Trump meet with the protesters as he advised President Xi of China back in January and also his tweet to Iran.

What's different now?

Hypocrisy, perhaps. You should hear China laugh at America.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/asia/us-protests-hong-kong-china-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/01/chinese-state-media-hits-back-at-trumps-sanctions-threat-on-hong-kong-beijing.html

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:58pm On Jun 02, 2020

sheylarhh:
Before training at Cobham this morning, the Chelsea players and coaching staff formed the letter H, for humans, and knelt in a show of support for the #BlackLivesMatter movement.

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Crime › Re: Why We Should Protest Now by budaatum: 6:34pm On Jun 02, 2020

TheSourcerer:
haha , old folks right? I believe he cannot speak against the government because he gets paid by the government , but we the youths are done with this old people ruling us , we are not running leadership of the elderly na , even foolish people get old . Stop listening to all elders thinking there are intelligent because they quote proverbs, theyvare as clueless as we the youths

As you might find, if dad had spoken against the government that pays him, he might have struggled to put food on the table to feed you if he was the only one speaking against government.

My dad spoke against government and we starved. I am very proud of him though, and I went on to refuse to collect fraudulent government money for books I freely donate to my local government library.

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They asked me to bring them to the local government so they can access the value, inflate it, and I'll sign for like 100m and collect half while they keep the rest. I told them to fuq off, deposited the books in the library and walked away, and imported five more lots of books. Now, they see me as a mad person they can't mess with, lol.

There are different ways to protest, is my point.

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