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Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 7:45pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
You don't just wake up and gather money from your closest friends and start a bank. I am always concerned with source capital for any business. We have a serious money laundering problem in the country, where generals and politicians are always looking for businesses or fronts to turn their dirty money clean.
Indeed, "you don't just wake up and gather money from your closest friends and start a bank". And there's nothing to suggest Elumelu just woke up gathered money from his closest friends to start a bank.

We do ourselves a huge disservice when we fill our ignorance about Elumelu's or anyone else's wealth with our own stupidity and prejudices. Its the point I made about my neighbour who allegedly kept his wife in a cupboard on Osinbajo Close.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum:
RuudVanNisteroy:
He acquired Standard Trust Bank in 1997, under Abacha was still ruling. Not much is said about what he did prior to acquiring the bank with a number of investors and what other business concerns he got the source capital from. Money was scarce during the 90's except you had connections with government officials.
The fact that he "acquired Standard Trust Bank in 1997, under Abacha" does not mean he acted illegally. And Money was not "scarce during the 90's except you had connections with government officials" for everyone.

There's lots of people who legitimately made money under Abacha without working for government!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:17pm On May 28, 2020
Abbeybailey:
7Let me refresh your memory feedthenation, it was couple years ago in the same Minneapolis when a Somalian American police officer mistakenly shot a white lady dead, guess how quickly the black police officer was arrested and prosecuted and he got 15 years in jail for killing a white lady. See the difference and some clowns will come on Nairaland spouting garbage as usual. I fully exercise my 1st Amendment right because ain't going down without emptying my Glock.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/activists-cops-shooting-white-woman-treated-differently-62377028

Politics › Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by budaatum: 7:12pm On May 28, 2020

Politics › Re: Federal High Court Declares Deregistration Of Political Parties By INEC Valid by budaatum: 6:56pm On May 28, 2020
A Federal High Court in Abuja has affirmed the powers of the Independent National Electoral Commission to deregister political parties, which failed to comply with the provisions of the law particularly Section 225 A of the 1999 constitution as amended.
A wise person once said, "the hunter has learned to shoot without missing, so the birds must learn to fly without perching".

They should next time learn to comply with the law.
Health › Re: COVID-19: Anambra Fires 8000 Workers by budaatum: 6:53pm On May 28, 2020
Poor Anambra can become dirty Anambra, now they've sacked the cleaners!
Crime › Re: If You Stay Around Oworo Be Careful, Today Is Obasanjo Buried by budaatum: 6:51pm On May 28, 2020
Don't you want to kill him first huh
Politics › Re: Top 10 Africa's Most Populous Ethnic Groups. Yoruba is number 3 by budaatum: 6:49pm On May 28, 2020
And here's another list for your consideration.

Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 6:46pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
I admit I will have to remove my President Elumelu . He is one of the overnight billionaires that started a bank in the 90's.
https://www.nairaland.com/5690877/dream-team-transform-nigeria-2023
What! You made a mistake with your nominee for President?

We'd have to scrutinise your entire list if you could make an error as huge as that, though, I do not agree that one can start a bank without being somewhat wealthy to begin with. Are you sure you are giving him credit for the work he did before you became aware of him? Three degrees points to not overnight, in my opinion.

Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 6:38pm On May 28, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
As I've been said severally. On whatever authority or for whatever reason, what is obvious is questions can be asked.
And indeed you are here asking questions, which you should do least you mistakenly elect "$350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom purchasing" and "luxury vehicles, mansions in and outside Nigeria" crooks, then cry over spilt milk.

Know though that you are not investigating, nor do they even recognise your existence.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Frustrated Christian Brother!! by budaatum: 6:34pm On May 28, 2020
Greatzeus:
Your situation is as a result of Nigeria's economy and lack of opportunities.
In one breath, you show op needs to take responsibility and with the above you advocate irresponsibility.

Those who watch the weather do neither sow nor do they reap!
Christianity Etc › Re: A Frustrated Christian Brother!! by budaatum: 6:31pm On May 28, 2020
Greatzeus:
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Now take a deep breath and type your comment again,this time reasonably undecided
Did someone tell you you had the powers to say "let there be and there is"?

I suggest you try again or go tell them you failed.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 6:29pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
Even Kenyan's leaders are mocking Nigeria for being the headquarters of corruption.
And equally corrupt Kenya's opinion should matter to me because?

Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 6:25pm On May 28, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
Wealth o. Income o. All na same wrapper tie them.
You're just being mischievous or maybe still ignorant.
The important thing is that the source of the income/wealth must be clearly shown. EOD
I don't have to show anyone the source of my wealth or income! You may indeed ask, but you'd need the right credentials, like being the tax office or be investigating me for a crime before I need to even consider your existence.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 6:22pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
I never said wealthy means crooked. I simply stated it is not out of place to probe the source of wealth of overnight billionaires in the corruption capital of the world. And my cabinet consists mostly of corporate titans that reached the pinnacle in the private sector.
If Falana, a very wealthy lawyer, can be on your list, perhaps you might see how that corporate titan Osinbajo Close neighbour of mine can be on someone else's list. You might not know how he became wealthy, but those of us who lived in his neighbourhood and who can reason well, know he has been rich before going into politics.

No one becomes a billionaire overnight, is my point, and not every billionaire stole their billions as we can obviously see by the billionaires on your list, assuming you scrutinised them before they got on your list, that is.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 6:15pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
Under Buhari- Nigeria became the poverty and corruption capital of the world. Politicians like Dino Melaye openly flaunt their N3 billion($7 million dollar) car collection, former Chicago drug baron is moving 2 bullion vans to his residence in broad daylight,Governos are openly collecting $5 million dollar bribes on video and Army Chief is acquiring mansions in Dubai with his "savings from his snake farm".
Personally, I wish Buhari could do what he's known for, which is, imprison looters for 200 years, but I'm not willing to sacrifice democracy and the rule of law for him to do that.

Everyone with a brain knows Nigeria's wealth correlates with the price of crude oil, and that Nigeria became poverty capital of the world because the government before him stuck Nigeria's wealth in ghanamustgoes and soakaways and bought "$350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom purchasing" and "luxury vehicles, mansions in and outside Nigeria" when crude oil was $150 a barrel. If they had invested that money in capital projects and the education of Nigerians as they should have done, Nigeria would have been less poor.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 6:05pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
I agree we have another chance in 2023 to salvage Nigeria. Here is my Dream Team to transform Nigeria to an economic powehouse.

https://www.nairaland.com/5690877/dream-team-transform-nigeria-2023
And as I said, you just need to convince us that your dream can be a reality we can desire and work for, but if you intend to do that by making unfounded claims of assuming wealthy means crooked, you might have to remove some wealthy people from that list of yours.

budaatum:
That was my question! But I seem to be being told they have failed before even starting!

By working with RuudVanNisteroy who proposed him, I hoped. But it seems he's decided to fail before we even begin. If he had stood firmly behind his man, same way those who put the "Tinubus, El-Rufais, Atikus and other jokers that will keep the country fantastically corrupt" on the mantle of power, which is by campaigning and appealing to the majority and getting whoever we want elected.

If some Nigerians who "love their fantastically corrupt leaders who use bullion vans to share cash to them and provide stomach infrastructure in the form of rice, eba and egusi" can get their jokers elected, we smarter people (and I'm hoping we are smarter), should be able to beat them even "with this Nigeria Electoral system", and elect those who would help us get "electricity, portable water, sanitation network and hospitals" that we seem to want.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:56pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
An accessory of theft is equally as guilty as the thief. Buhari has a track record of defending thieves caught red handed stealing like Abacha,Ganduje and Atiku Bagudu- who helped Abacha launder billions of dollars and was even jailed in America, before his return to Nigeria.
You are entitled to your opinion about Buhari's track record. It's for that reason we have democracy. Each person votes according to their opinion and the person with the most opinionated voters wins the election, and as you can see by the last two elections, those with your opinion are in the minority.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:48pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
Why did your idol "Saint Buhari" absolve one of the greatest looter's the world has ever known Abacha ? And you say he is better than IBB, when they are nothing, but birds of the same feather.
You'll have to ask him that yourself, but at least you have not yet said "Buhari stole".

And I never said he was "Saint Buhari". At worst, he is the lesser of two evils.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:45pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
The problem is the acquired the luxury vehicles,mansions in and outside Nigeria and liquid assets after they got into politics. Can you point any factory's they owned before they got into politics.
As I said, we, the electorate, voted for "$350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom purchasing" and "luxury vehicles, mansions in and outside Nigeria" politicians, and if we wanted factorys we should have voted for factory building politicians!

Thankfully, we get another chance in 2023 to shine our eyes and get our priorities right, but we must first see the errors of our past choices and mend our ways.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:39pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
What is the difference between Abacha,IBB and Buhari. After all Buhari said Abacha never stole.
Abacha stole, and if he was on the ballot today, I'm sure Nigerians would not vote for him nor for Babangida. Buhari, on the other hand has won two elections so I doubt we Nigerians see them the same way going by the evidence before us.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:31pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
In saner climes the tax authorities can investigate you either through tips from whistleblowers or through wealth that cannot be accounted for.


You can't be driving around in a $350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom and your tax records show you only paid $10,000 tax and declared an income of $50,000 or be living in a $2 million dollar mansion when you tax records show you only earned $150,000 over a 5 year period.
They investigate your income and not necessarily your wealth, is the point you miss here. And the income of top Nigerian politicians can easily allow them to ride a $350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom, if that's their desire.

But, you should blame the voters for electing a $350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom politician, is the point here, as the priority of a $350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom purchasing politician is obviously not you!
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:24pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
You reason like a crook that is why you see the APC of Buhari,Tinubu,Ameachi,Akpabio,Ganduje as better than PDP. And can't see the only difference between the two crooked parties is just party name.
Please know that the only person I see as better than pdp amongst all those you mentioned is the Buhari whom I mentioned. And I am very delighted that most voting Nigerians seem to agree with me as shown by his winning a second term.

If pdp had continued with their level of looting there'd likely be no Nigeria today to the delight of some but the detriment of many.
Politics › Re: No Light, No Water, No Good Roads, No Security, : Why Should We Come Back Home? by budaatum: 5:19pm On May 28, 2020
One could come home to help with the "No Light, No Water, No Good Roads, No Security" situation if one can.

I must say though from personal experience that most at home just want you to drop the money and go back where you came from and make more money to send home.
Technology Market › Re: Foes Of Bill Gates Come Ooo, He Wants To Digitise Nigeria by budaatum: 5:15pm On May 28, 2020
The only pity here is that we aren't taking steps to digitise Nigeria by ourselves. Just imagine the employment for millions and the increase in efficiencies if we did.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:12pm On May 28, 2020
Xeeex:
Why don't we focus on the source of our poverty instead?
I wonder. Some would rather look at another person's full plate than wonder why theirs is empty.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:11pm On May 28, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
Well, officially, you're expected to pay tax on your wealth and spending. Part of the info required is the source of your wealth. Woe betide you if you lie. In saner countries that is.
I do not think it is true that one must pay tax on one's wealth.

In supposed saner UK and US, no one pays tax on their wealth since they've already paid tax on their income. And Vat takes care of tax on spending.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 5:07pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
How can you support Bubu?Where were you, when he said Abacha never stole and said he doesn't know the technology used in the tape, showing Ganduje collecting $5 million dollars in bribe and when he was campaigning for Atiku Bagudu to be Governor of Kebbi state who helped Abacha launder billions of dollars and was going to receive $100 million dollars out of the recently returned Abacha loot, before USA stepped in.

You are part of the crooked system and support the enablers.
When the choice is ghanamustgo bags and soakaways full of foreign currency, its very easy to support Buhari as only a fool would think the raping of Nigeria under pdp was better.

As to your verdict against me, don't you think you should investigate me before jumping to lazy conclusions? But then, you do show how lazy you are by repeating the debunked claim that Bagudu "was going to receive $100 million dollars out of the recently returned Abacha loot".

To think the rest of the politicians, whom you claim are crooks, would just sit and watch while one Bagudu collects $100m just shows how little you reason, in my opinion.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 4:56pm On May 28, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
Crimes which were tied to their ill gotten wealth. Go read about them before you start forming knowledge that does not exist. A closer example is that of Allen Onyema recently. You can tell me the crime he committed to warrant his investigation. You can also tell us the crimes Donald Trump has committed to warrant his been heckled to release his tax returns. A lot more examples abound of wealth being questioned in those countries among others.
Trump's wealth is not being investigated, at least, not officially. And Allen Onyema is being officially investigated for money laundering, which he wouldn't be if he hadn't behaved shadily when moving funds to America.

No one says you as an individual should not investigate or heckle as much as you want. But you should not expect an official investigation just because a person is wealthy.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 4:48pm On May 28, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
And here you are saying the wealthy are never investigated. Pray tell, was Cameron's father the subject of an armed robbery to warrant this investigation?
I don't get you. And I never said "the wealthy are never investigated". Please open your eyes are read properly.

You should be investigated if you commit a crime. But being wealthy is not a crime, as far as I know.
Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 4:16pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7lfHL_l1w
The person in above video had a crooked wealthy father who made money through tax evasion, but I guess one is too lazy to scrutinise that!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/06/the-cameron-network-inherited-wealth-and-family-companies

Politics › Re: Time For Nigerians To Start Questioning People's Source Of Wealth by budaatum: 4:09pm On May 28, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
[b]That is not true- were Ekeremadu,Amaechi,Uduaghan,Wike,Dino Melaye etc wealthy before they entered politics?[/b]If you needed to be wealthy: then why has $600 billion dollars been pilfered since 1960 and why are majority of federal,state and local government allocations looted by the wealthy elected politicians?
If they were not wealthy, and were poor like you, then I have to ask, why did uncrooked you not go into politics leaving us with crooks like them (assuming they are crooks)? Is it not the lack of supposedly honest people like you in politics that leaves us with supposed crooks?

I am not against scrutinising politicians! In fact, scrutiny, as small as it is, is why I support bubu, since there was no scrutiny under the prior government. But assuming all politicians are crooks is as lazy as thinking all Nigerians are crooks. I don't think you are a crook and I think you are Nigerian!

Let us indeed scrutinise. But let us not just assume every rich person stole their wealth because it can't possibly be true.

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