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IbeOkehie:
And Black Africans earned lots of money from the trade too. What did they do with it?

So. In your opinion, the money Black Africans earned from slavery is "lots" compared to the money earned by the slavers they worked for for generations and who bred them for more profit?

Sorry IbeOkehie, but I think you need to go purchase a book on the topic and better inform yourself.

A machine is affected by depreciation over time, but imagine that machine could have babies every year that can replace it or be sold.

The below is a recommendation.

RodgersAkpafu:
Further proof that you are far deep in the right wing ecosystem

Those of us who've been here long would find your statement amusing.

Cc Basilico,
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5373#136808030

cococandy:
Kristi Noem’s department of homeland security took the TikTok video of a real live young black boy and AI edited it to fit a narrative of black boys being violent. Claiming they’re threatening ICE agents.

They endangered black boys lives, were caught in this lie and have not apologized.

I have a question for the resident coons on here.
You’re supporting a party that riling up white supremacist to go after black kids. If your child gets killed as a result of this, is that a price you’d consider fair? Are your children’s lives worth your dream of a white nationalist America?

I have the feeling racial tension is being saved for the second half of dump's current term, and by it's third quatre racism will become a huge thing.

I hope I'm wrong.

kentebemoney:
If they can, they will!!!

Fact is, they can't. And neither can caucasians in US and Europe chase non-caucasians out.

In fact, they are all doing the opposite, including Japan and China, and are inviting Africans to their countries because they need you to replace their aging populations.

IbeOkehie:


Black Africans collectively were the major enablers of the Slave Trade. No amount of rationalization can erase that FACT.

The Africans went to Europe to advertise their product, and built big ships to export said product, and interbred them on site to increase that product to work the land they the Africans owned for profit Africans reaped the most of?

Seriously, I don't really know how to respond to you, especially when I follow the money gained from slavery, which in your version of history, would have flowed to Africa.

basilico:
It means they couldn't find evidence .....

Does that not mean, there is no evidence linking linking him to?

basilico:
If it looks like a duck,walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

I most wholly agree. If he looks like dump and walks like dump and quacks like dump, he's dump.

IbeOkehie:
The people of the USA...the people who built and organized the nation called the USA...are a wise people.

The major trouble they have now is they've been infiltrated by uncivilized hordes who don't understand the concept of LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Slavery was a terrible error, it opened the door to all these claims of victimization, even from people who SOLD the slaves. And without it I likely wouldn't be a blessed citizen of the USA. And that is life.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

I think you've admitted here that slaves did not have the socialism you claim USA had, but I'm amused you don't seem to include them amongst "people who built and organized the nation called the USA". It's like you saying cotton picking don't count.

But piqued am I by your, "without it I likely wouldn't be a blessed citizen of the USA". It makes me want to ask if you are a descendant, for it might make a particular sense than if coming from a Nigerian in America.

On consideration and testing, I can't but not note the absurdity of saying, 'slavery likely blessed me to be a citizen of my blessed country', like I couldn't have gotten on a plane and come here if some Africans hadn't been enslaved.

Or is it perhaps it's that they wouldn't have let me in if not for? I wonder.

ignis:
For any other country, there are possibilities.. But for Nigeria it's a capital NO. A country with rubber stamp senators in the hands of the president... Are you aware that the INEC Chairman that will be in charge of the 2027 presidential election was recently appointed by Tinubu?

"Rubber stamp senators in the hands of the president" is not as powerful as your single vote that put them there, I want you to know, and this thread is proving.

Even if the current administration is not counting votes and is rigging, they are providing us with the opportunity to learn to count better someday.

bemeruca:
Protests in Russia are popping up, fuel scarcity and their economy is nose diving. He is losing thousands of men per month. It's a critical situation for Putin which is why he wants to talk and Trump should not be lowballing Ukraine. It's a stupid thing to do. This is not how he should seek peace. He should be asking Russia to leave Ukraine. At the rate they are losing refineries, its just a matter of time before they beg for mercy.

I'm so glad Ukraine has fought back till Russia has now become weak.

I can just about attempt to imagine the world I'd be living in if Ukraine had surrendered when Russia seemed strong. Thankfully, I quickly fail.

basilico:
Mamdani meets with Siraj Wahajj. More about Siraj Wahajj.

Siraj Wahhaj (the elder, imam):Named an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing due to associations with figures like Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, raising suspicions of ties to extremist networks. However, he was never charged, and there’s no evidence linking him to terrorism support or his son’s 2018 activities.

And so what, exactly? I don't get your point.

bemeruca:
Cease fire collapsed in Gaza. Hopefully they show restraint, both sides

What!? The biggest most beautiful maga dump Israel Hamas ceasefire deal like no one has ever seen before has collapsed already?

Now, who would have thought a deal cooked up by dump and one side with a literal gun threat to the other side would collapse like that?

Do you think collapse will happen to the Russia-Ukraine deal dump tabled if Ukraine agreed to it?

I don't know why these YouTubers keep inventing lies!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2NQvuhtXLE?si=APQ3crohVv9opiHM

Vote dump!

bemeruca:
I change my perception based on the situation.
When Ukraine was at a disadvantage and things looked bad, yeah, it makes sense for them to take a deal and surrender. NATO and Biden did not know what they were doing. Now, Ukraine has built its capabilities, and Russia is afraid that Trump is going to send more lethal weapons, so it wants a deal, but the deal Trump is talking about is nonsense.

Think boxing. The challenger is down on points going into the tenth. All the champion need do is last the final 3 minutes and his belt is his. Should the challenger surrender based on the situation?

Or say Formula One. Should Verstappen accept defeat already?

Incidentally, dump's deals are always nonsense, including the nonsense one he's trying to impose on Hamas and Israel, which neither side intends to agree to.

bemeruca:
Protests in Russia are popping up, fuel scarcity and their economy is nose diving. He is losing thousands of men per month. It's a critical situation for Putin which is why he wants to talk and Trump should not be lowballing Ukraine. It's a stupid thing to do. This is not how he should seek peace. He should be asking Russia to leave Ukraine. At the rate they are losing refineries, its just a matter of time before they beg for mercy.

I'm so glad you now see the benefit of Ukraine fighting on.

Have you forgotten when you said weak Ukraine should just bow to Russia's might?

Let's first be clear about something. The reason you want your "girlfriend" (I love how you slyly promoted her by the way), to not move so far away is because she'll not be so easily accessible.

Now that's clear. What exactly do you want?

And how much you willing to pay?

That second question is because you might want to consider putting the sister and friend on your pay roll plus their rent.

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The kẹkẹ Napep carries Max to a win!

Personally, I think he's cheating by running two engines in his car.

IbeOkehie:
A majority of USA voters chose him to be their President and implement such policies AFTER experiencing his first term in 2016, DESPITE his being a convicted criminal or felon or civilly liabe or whatever the term. That's telling methinks.

The people will make their opinion of his stewardship clear in the 2026 Mid terms. That's not too far away, barely a year. We shall see.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

True, "A majority of USA voters chose him", can't argue.

A majority of Nigerian voters chose Tinubu too, I daresay.

Thankfully, we get another go every 4 years.

Vote dump!

IbeOkehie:
How does a country build such prosperity? By applying free market capitalism. When people get rich, they tend to voluntarily spend on healthcare and are more willing to pay private market prices.

Surely you mean, "when everybody gets rich", unless you want me to think the rich will pay for the poor peoples' healthcare.

Socialism in healthcare works on the premise that the poor will always be amongst us and the rich often don't give a damn. And besides it made economic sense to care for the sick or their family would have to and thereby reduce the workforce by more.

It, socialism in healthcare, has had its time, I think, because education and the promotion of healthy lifestyles has helped mitigate quite a lot of illnesses, some perpetuated by free market capitalism - cigarettes and coca cola and bleached chicken come to mind.

I don't agree the market should be so free it has no oversight and I bet you don't too. And while I might concede that it's we the people who should organise and oversee, we don't seem to be able to without forming a government, so it's kind of circular, it seems.

I chuckled when I read, "though policy makers must keep the Lafer Curve in mind as they plan for revenue generation", and had to look it up to remind me, having recently read the following which shows the getting around curves by kicking Lafer into the future.

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policycast/ghost-budget-how-us-war-spending-went-rogue-wasted-billions-and-how-fix-it

raumdeuter:
You are mocking a person who isnt a king while groveling under the rule of a real King

Raum, please tell me who is and how we are "groveling under the rule of a real King"?

Do you not know anything about our prime minister or what a constitutional monarchy is?

raumdeuter:
Asking staffers to list 5 things they worked on this week and send to their managers caused so much anger and uproar. Things that are normal for many private sector workers

You seem to like to not associate who's asking from the question or think it doesn't matter, and you don't even consider whom you are asking.

I'll skip the first as there's no point rehashing Musk, but imagine the binperson. All he does is wake up at five 5-6 days a week and collect bins till say, 10am, done. What 5 things does he write?

And imagine the lawyer, juggling lots of cases in court. Can you understand the disdain at being asked such a question of which one would be, I responded to your stupīd question?

I worked in both sectors, and no one has ever asked me to "list 5 things they worked on this week and send to their managers". As a manager, I'd be insulting my own intelligence if I don't know what my staff that I am responsible for paying are working on such that I need to ask them to send me a list. In fact, my staff will not respect me ever again if I disrespect them that much, and I think that is so not normal, it is abnormal.

raumdeuter:
10yrs ago, no one in Trump's family line was president, in the next 10yrs no one in Trump's family line will be

On the flip side, in your entire life, and even kn our grandparents, someone from Charles lineage has been king and will still be king in 100yrs time

This is why the king dump protests are a mockery of dump, since everyone protesting on the street knows he can't crown his son.

He can't even run in 4 years time, but vote dump!

raumdeuter:
Clinton Bush Obama Biden all signed executive orders

Did that make them Kings too

Did I say the signing of executive orders is what makes a person a king, Raum?

Is dump being accused of being a king because he signed executive orders?

raumdeuter:
Check the new registration data recently, there was a net 4m gain for the Republican party

You know you ought to provide source for this instead of asking me to go look for it, right?

But let's assume you aren't lying. Are you juxtaposing this against registrations for the Democrat Party, like everyone who opposes dump should?

I like to wait for elections myself. Vote for dump!

basilico:
They can't protest when they have stripped the Royalty all powers .

We don't need to protest because we have already protested and stripped the Royalty of all powers, you'd know if you read some history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants_Revolt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestation_of_1641

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689

bemeruca:
They need DOGE

A better directed DOGE, yes. And past governors have tried, mind.

Bisi Akande, Governor 29 May 1999 – 29 May 2003, told his kitchen staff to stop killing 2 cows everyday in the governor's house because only his wife and he lived there and they can't eat 2 cows. From now on they must buy only 2 kilogramme of meat a day.

The people said he's selfish, that only he wants to eat. They labelled him Baba kilo, and kicked him out in one term.

Aregbesola, holding my nose, Governor 27 November 2010 – 27 November 2018, said he can't pay the bloated wage bill of Osun State, he had to let about a third of them go. The unions said no. "How could you? Don't you know government wage is all many families live on?"

So he offered half wage for a short while, that ended up like half wage every second month, and many wailed.

Which is why I'd argue that it is the people who are responsible for the leaders they elect and how or whether they monitor what they do, and for letting them know if it's liked or not by voting them in or out.

This, after all, is why you blame Palestinians for what the Hamas they elected did on October 7, no? And why we blame maga yous for dump.

IbeOkehie:
We know healthcare is the number one justification for socialism. We know.

A good one, no? Considering the current system leaves so many without healthcare because they can't afford to call an ambulance?

I've benefitted from UK socialist healthcare. I used to moan at my National Insurance Contributions until it saved my life. There's no way I could have bought the care I got if I'd been relying on my personal insurance or funds, and trying would have significantly negatively impacted my living.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1127305/

Add education as co number one justification for socialism, because it reduces the uneducated in the society.

US can not socialise healthcare, though I should never say never. And UK is trying hard to privatise more of ours.

IbeOkehie:
The more important parameter is the FUNCTIONS of government, which determines the size (number of employees).

Good Luck to Nigerians

I am not disagreeing with you. My own Orolu Local Government is bloated because every local government chairman employs more staff, though there's no work for them to do. Those who come to the local government just sit around doing nothing, and there's loads more collecting wages without ever working at all. Some have even lived in UK for years. Yet, we can not find anyone to staff the local government library.

Which is why I've selected the above from yours, and even left in your "Good luck", though I don't agree with luck.

Is it really "the FUNCTIONS of government" which determine size, or the purpose of those that are elected to form the government?

I ask because I'm trying to figure out what the function of my Orolu Local Government might be, if we have one at all.

I'd have appreciated dump's staff cuts if they were not biased and unAmerican.

bemeruca:
Lmao, trump is elected with the popular vote, king Charles is not, is son will be the next king.

One is a king, the other is not. Is there a nonsense you don't support?

Yeah. See how simplistically you reason like you don't know president dump as he is has more powers than King Charles, and a king dump will have even more.

Pity dump can't ever be crowned though. But I have a great idea. dump should shove Farage aside and just run for king of UK, since you believe he'd win.

I hope you've complained to the police complaint department, whatever they are called.

As for court, it's you who needs to file a case against the stealers and the buyers and the police. And don't forget to include costs for damages and loss of income and stress and legal fees in your suits please.