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Anas09:I think he thinks if he repeats a thing often enough everyone will forget what they know and just believe what he tells them. |
GLYCOLYSISS:I never said the Holy Spirit was the source of my claims Gly! I know how much work I've had to do to acquire the source for my claims and understanding when discussing the Bible. It is after all a book that should be read and understood and not just lazily believed without bothering to understand it. As to what might be in me, I doubt you've seen even the outside not to talk of what might be inside of me. |
joseph1013:It is written in the Bible that some thousand years ago Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit, you mean. Writing today in the 21st century, some simply say he was very "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest". And I'd say it can be my understanding because there is a brain in my own head that runs a mind with which I can think and reason and consider all the "evidence" and the immense research such that I acquire some understanding of what has evolved since then, instead of unthinkingly claiming a book "teaches" or "speaks". |
I bet it's originals, but na naija, so one must be wise. |
Amujale:You decide whether religion makes you virtuos or not. But imagine what the rest of us would have been like if we had not been religionised at all. Hint: Education as we know it today evolved from religion |
joseph1013:My point is, how adherents see it might not necessary be how it is. And philosophising is what "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" people do. And since you'd bother to use such words, hopefully, not flippantly, I hoped to hold you to such rigour. After all, its not like you would ask others to be "robust and honest" and you be a lazy hypocrite. The poor go looking for "gods, spirits, devils", joseph, yet "figurative expressions" is exactly what they are, figurative expressions to denote that which is not exactly comprehended, but which hark back to the very beginning of human attempts to reflect, which is what philosophy is and science even. The wealthy however, are "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" and end up coming to different understandings through their hard work and effort. Christianity for instances specifically teaches, do not create figures nor bow down and worship them, and [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A40&version=KJV]do for[/url] those here whom you see and whatever Father might be in heaven will be pleased. So, why should an "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" Christian be concerned with "the elements therein - gods, spirits, devils", and not an understanding of what those words might mean and or imply? Is it not specifically written "no one has seen God"? And yet here you are asking that God be presented to you on a plate. I'm going to consider that what you are doing here is looking for the "elements therein" for that which is meant in spirit, so to speak. But know that it is foolish to learn calculus from random people on the street whom you dictionary define but who might not have defined themselves by a dictionary. |
He must show evidence of this expenditure. Anyone in Kano fit photo these schools? |
GLYCOLYSISS:I'll remember you wrote this. |
hakeem4:Interesting. You should advise him to read more and try to understand or get a better religion.
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It's today, Wednesday, the tomorrow of yesterday, and buda is posting here and you are all alive, just like I had faith we all would be. I'd be grateful if someone can ascertain the veracity of the fundamentally verifiable observable empirical knowledge that I now present as evidence of my faith based claim please. budaatum: |
wickedtuna:It is they who lack understanding who seek for wealth that moths eat. The wise store up their's in heaven. But it is not for the poor to have a proper understanding of the meaning of words, so to them is preached the Kingdom of God in a church. The wise will go home and do their homework. Simple answer, they have not read and understood Scripture. If they had, they would understand that learning is the key to prosperity and would knuckle down and study and learn from every book that God inspired to be written. |
wickedtuna:Quite a lot wickedtuna, quite a lot you do understand!
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6.There is no way of ascertaining the veracity of any faith based claim.This is not true! Neither is a lot more written there, but this is definitely a lie. I, buda, have faith that I will post on here tomorrow, Wednesday, and that no one here will die. We shall ascertain the veracity of my faith based claim tomorrow when you obtain fundamentally verifiable observable "empirical knowledge" of mine and everyone else's presence here, for I forbid anyone's falsification! |
MuttleyLaff:"For the bread of God is He which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world…" John 6:33 |
budaatum: |
Dissemination of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit dwells only among a worthy generation, and the frequency of its manifestations is proportionate to the worthiness. There was no manifestation of it in the time of the Second Temple (Yoma 21b), while there were many during the time of Elijah (Tosef., Soṭah, xii. 5). According to Job xxviii. 25, the Holy Spirit rested upon the Prophets in varying degrees, some prophesying to the extent of one book only, and others filling two books (Lev. R. xv. 2). Nor did it rest upon them continually, but only for a time. The stages of development, the highest of which is the Holy Spirit, are as follows: zeal, integrity, purity, holiness, humility, fear of sin, the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit conducts Elijah, who brings the dead to life (Yer. Shab. 3c, above, and parallel passage). The pious act through the Holy Spirit (Tan., Wayeḥi, 14); whoever teaches the Torah in public partakes of the Holy Spirit (Cant. R. i. 9, end; comp. Lev. R. xxxv. 7). When Phinehas sinned the Holy Spirit departed from him (Lev. R. xxxvii. 4; comp. Gen. R. xix. 6; Pesiḳ. 9a). GLYCOLYSISS: |
GLYCOLYSISS:I'm so glad you found me that. I needed to remind Joseph. Believe is the sort of thing satan does and not what "genuinely sanctified & experience the Holy ghost baptism" people ought to do. I think "genuinely sanctified & experience the Holy ghost baptism" people ought to 'know'. They would have found if they had sought. Take care too Gly. |
GLYCOLYSISS:Lol Gly! Are you knew here? This is buda. The one with the looking eyes and a reasoning mind. The Bible does not "state" to me. I read the words in the Bible and reason with my mind and with the immense assistance of the Holy Spirit I hope I acquire an understanding that is to the greatest Glory to God. Please know, I often fall short. Indeed there may be nothing like a ¼ filled with Holy Spirit, but look around you. Show me some here who are or who claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Would you say they are all equally filled with the Holy Spirit? Even amongst the people of God, the preacher people and co, will you say they are all equally filled? Do they all appear equally sanctified & consecrated to you, or do none of them have the Holy Spirit? |
GLYCOLYSISS:There's quite a lot of people in the Bible who were not filled at all with the Holy Spirit not to talk of a ¼ filled, so I don't see why I should provide evidence for it when it wasn't even the argument I was making. That said, here is Paul seeing dimly in the dark waiting for when he would see in full.
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coluka:Please find me only one single Greenlander willing to sell. |
jesusjnr:Don't take my word for it jnr, but you need some medical assistance. You are not well. |
jesusjnr:You think repeating lies will sanctify you jnr, but that relys on the ignorance of your audience, which as you refuse to notice, is a fabrication of your mind. For if you opened your eyes you'd see peace does not reign on any of the numerous threads you've opened on this forum and you yourself are the troublemaker. If I were you, I'd wonder which god you learnt your behaviour from because it sure ain't from the one who's name you bear. |
Emusan:The question you ask above is similar to the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+12%3A18-24&version=KJV]dispute[/url] between the Pharisees and the Sadducees that Christ was asked to resolve. One group only accepted the Books of Moses as the Word of God, while the other included much more books. Christ said to both parties: Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? We say Scripture is inspired. I would add, so too is understanding. We err if we know not Scripture nor the Power of God. Emusan:Corrupted? Be thankful that you have what you have, I'd say, for the choice really is, that or nothing. History was not so much done as we know it to be done today so judging Scripture by its historical accuracy is an error. It was not intended to be historical, yet, for perfection it still is. For if you can possibly remove the influence of Scripture through the centuries from the human psyche, I am certain we'd be a lot more unevolved than we are today. A work in progress I call it. We are being built into a people of power through the immense power of the Word of God. We definitely would have been a lot more ignorant than we are now if God had not breathed the Word into our nostrils, and would love each other a lot less than we currently do. |
jesusjnr:Over a year? You been here just about that long so you must have appeared when you stopped taking your meds which explains a lot! |
jesusjnr:God must have not included "love one another" and even "your enemies" in the job description you got, which makes one wonder what god gave you the job that you've been given. |
joseph1013:The evidence for gods (not existence, mind), is the vast amount of written word that exists on the topic. It's probably insufficient for you if you expect physical material evidence that you can weigh and measure. The tortoise and the hare in Aesop Fables does not exist, yet we learn quite a lot from the fables about them. Philosophy too cannot be measured or weighed, yet no sane person would claim philosophy does not exist. "Disbelief (and belief) is not at all in the business of searching or knowing". It is about making things up in ones head usually with very little attempt to understand before believing or disbelieving it, and is what I've called "intellectually lazy and unequivocally dishonest". An "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" person would first seek an understanding of what is meant instead of discarding it as you are so swift to do. It is afterall in no way intellectually sound to reject (or accept) claims one does not understand. And asking 'Christians' and 'Muslims', who can only proclaim what they believe, is like asking random people in the street about calculus. But then, your question is about "exist", so you're probably asking the right people. You'd go elsewhere if you were seeking to understand. As to straw, I'm relying on the fact that unlike your belief about me, you yourself "know the meaning of the words you use". If you did, you'd see this thread is all about strawmanning, as in stating the beliefs of some and equating it to the understanding of all then whacking it all down. Nowhere have I found you seeking to understand the obfuscated complex issue called gods which have existed even since humans have reflected. And yes, "not good enough" for someone of your intellectual ability. Though I confess that's just a belief of mine. |
Emusan:Then you don't know op, and you don't know Christ, for whosoever is not against him is with Him, and those with Him are peacemakers and not division makers like op. There's nothing like "perfectly correct" when it comes to the Gospels. They were all written long after Christ had died by people who were not even there, and they have all gone through edits and rewrites over the years for all sorts of intentions and purposes. The JW version is just one more rewrite with intentions, but so are every version from the very beginning. Yet are they all for the perfection of we humans, to learn from and to perfect ourselves like the Father in heaven is perfect. For when it is said that you should "Seek first the Kingdom of God", Wisdom is principal.
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jesusjnr:Ogbeni go and get a job instead of wailing that Oyedepo is not feeding you!
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Perhaps change title to Stupidity of Igboland Advocacy, since we can't even determine which land to include or not. Nigeria Kwenu! I say. |
Abi na. Dem no wan learn so make dem go dem papa house go de shut dem papa gate! |
SimDan95:As fake as walking on water. |
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