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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Appeared To Me For The First Time In Decades Last Night. by budaatum: 1:14pm On Sep 04, 2019
Anas09:
Fin. I'm waiting for you. But don't forget yours will be exposed too.
I think he thinks if he repeats a thing often enough everyone will forget what they know and just believe what he tells them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Mary Or Subtle Demon? by budaatum: 1:11pm On Sep 04, 2019
GLYCOLYSISS:
Does it change a thing ?
Maybe you could also add these to the count, Buda,you don't have the Holy spirit in you,so stop bringing Him into the picture to back up your claims ,claiming He is the source of your inspiration(s),especially when discussing Bible.
I never said the Holy Spirit was the source of my claims Gly!

I know how much work I've had to do to acquire the source for my claims and understanding when discussing the Bible. It is after all a book that should be read and understood and not just lazily believed without bothering to understand it.

As to what might be in me, I doubt you've seen even the outside not to talk of what might be inside of me.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by budaatum:
joseph1013:
Your own understanding of the Bible is that Jesus is a son of Joseph. How can that be your understanding when the Bible DIRECTLY teaches against that? The Bible says Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit.
It is written in the Bible that some thousand years ago Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit, you mean. Writing today in the 21st century, some simply say he was very "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest".

And I'd say it can be my understanding because there is a brain in my own head that runs a mind with which I can think and reason and consider all the "evidence" and the immense research such that I acquire some understanding of what has evolved since then, instead of unthinkingly claiming a book "teaches" or "speaks".
Autos › Re: Are You Required To Drive With Original Vehicle Papers Or Photocopies by budaatum: 12:44pm On Sep 04, 2019
I bet it's originals, but na naija, so one must be wise.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by budaatum: 12:37pm On Sep 04, 2019
Amujale:
If religion means Abrahamic religions, then religion is bad and should be banned anywhere on the African continent.

On the other hand, if religion means the experiencing, aspiring and working towards virtuousness; an attempt to attain a high moral and ethical standard, then religion is a nice and cool invention.

Religion is supposed to make us relative to virtuousness.

Virtue is a nice and fun quality to have.

All the authors of Abrahamic religious text are untustworthy, dubious, liars and fakers; and are never the virtuous type.
You decide whether religion makes you virtuos or not. But imagine what the rest of us would have been like if we had not been religionised at all.

Hint: Education as we know it today evolved from religion
Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by budaatum: 12:34pm On Sep 04, 2019
joseph1013:
You use words flippantly.

How can evidence be about how much has been written about a subject. Does the fact that there is an avalanche of material about the flat earth theory show that it exists? Does the oral tradition of twins being witches prove that twins are evil?

You equate the fable of tortoise and hare with the Bible yet its adherents do not see it as so. So what's your point?

Your insertion of philosophy into the discussion is laughable. Another strawman. No one says religion does not exists. What is under scrutiny are the elements therein - gods, spirits, devils...

If you choose to treat them as figurative expressions, you are welcome. Revisionism is all religion has been reduced to anyway.

Belief is about knowing for religionists. They KNOW that Allah exists. They KNOW that Christ was crucified to save you from hell. They know that nothing you do on earth is good enough if you are not a christian like them. Some of them KNOW that blood transfusion is unacceptable.

You have said so much about the complex issue of god but said nothing about them. Is this a gerrymandering exercise?

I have met people like you whose understanding and acceptance of gods is nothing like the accepted dictionary definition, but rather a philosophical twisting of words.

What they do not put on the table is tangible evidence of what they proclaim. I do not pretend to be surprised by it all.
My point is, how adherents see it might not necessary be how it is. And philosophising is what "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" people do. And since you'd bother to use such words, hopefully, not flippantly, I hoped to hold you to such rigour. After all, its not like you would ask others to be "robust and honest" and you be a lazy hypocrite.

The poor go looking for "gods, spirits, devils", joseph, yet "figurative expressions" is exactly what they are, figurative expressions to denote that which is not exactly comprehended, but which hark back to the very beginning of human attempts to reflect, which is what philosophy is and science even. The wealthy however, are "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" and end up coming to different understandings through their hard work and effort.

Christianity for instances specifically teaches, do not create figures nor bow down and worship them, and [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A40&version=KJV]do for[/url] those here whom you see and whatever Father might be in heaven will be pleased. So, why should an "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" Christian be concerned with "the elements therein - gods, spirits, devils", and not an understanding of what those words might mean and or imply? Is it not specifically written "no one has seen God"? And yet here you are asking that God be presented to you on a plate.

I'm going to consider that what you are doing here is looking for the "elements therein" for that which is meant in spirit, so to speak. But know that it is foolish to learn calculus from random people on the street whom you dictionary define but who might not have defined themselves by a dictionary.
Politics › Re: Kano Govt Spends N2.4bn On 1,180 Primary, Secondary Schools by budaatum: 11:52am On Sep 04, 2019
He must show evidence of this expenditure.

Anyone in Kano fit photo these schools?
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Mary Or Subtle Demon? by budaatum: 11:35am On Sep 04, 2019
GLYCOLYSISS:
Someone filled with the Holy spirit won't bear the fruits he have so far be displaying on the religion section.
I'll remember you wrote this.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Faith Is Delusional by budaatum: 11:32am On Sep 04, 2019
hakeem4:
Now the faith your religion teaches you is to believe something without evidence
Interesting. You should advise him to read more and try to understand or get a better religion.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Faith Is Delusional by budaatum:
It's today, Wednesday, the tomorrow of yesterday, and buda is posting here and you are all alive, just like I had faith we all would be.

I'd be grateful if someone can ascertain the veracity of the fundamentally verifiable observable empirical knowledge that I now present as evidence of my faith based claim please.

budaatum:
This is not true! Neither is a lot more written there, but this is definitely a lie. I, buda, have faith that I will post on here tomorrow, Wednesday, and that no one here will die.

We shall ascertain the veracity of my faith based claim tomorrow when you obtain fundamentally verifiable observable "empirical knowledge" of mine and everyone else's presence here, for I forbid anyone's falsification!
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions For Budaatum: How Can You Follow Jesus Without Believing In Him? by budaatum: 11:21am On Sep 04, 2019
wickedtuna:
"taste" that is my body and blood which is my nature, the Christ conscious nature, the logos that was made flesh by the supreme All so mankind could be saved. But "church going Christians" seem to put that consciousness away and chase "prosperity" please sir can explain why?
It is they who lack understanding who seek for wealth that moths eat. The wise store up their's in heaven. But it is not for the poor to have a proper understanding of the meaning of words, so to them is preached the Kingdom of God in a church. The wise will go home and do their homework.

Simple answer, they have not read and understood Scripture. If they had, they would understand that learning is the key to prosperity and would knuckle down and study and learn from every book that God inspired to be written.
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions For Budaatum: How Can You Follow Jesus Without Believing In Him? by budaatum: 8:53pm On Sep 03, 2019
wickedtuna:
for even the bible says "test and see that the lord is good" to believe fire is hot is different than to know its hot. I think thats what the op isnt understanding. What do i know tho.
Quite a lot wickedtuna, quite a lot you do understand!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Faith Is Delusional by budaatum: 8:12pm On Sep 03, 2019
6.There is no way of ascertaining the veracity of any faith based claim.
This is not true! Neither is a lot more written there, but this is definitely a lie. I, buda, have faith that I will post on here tomorrow, Wednesday, and that no one here will die.

We shall ascertain the veracity of my faith based claim tomorrow when you obtain fundamentally verifiable observable "empirical knowledge" of mine and everyone else's presence here, for I forbid anyone's falsification!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Words Of Jesus Vs The Bible by budaatum: 9:31am On Sep 03, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
"Jesus told them,
"My food is to do what the one who sent me wants me to do and to finish the work he has given me.
"
- John 4:34
"For the bread of God is He which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world…" John 6:33
Christianity Etc › Re: The Words Of Jesus Vs The Bible by budaatum: 9:25am On Sep 03, 2019
budaatum:
Dissemination of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit dwells only among a worthy generation, and the frequency of its manifestations is proportionate to the worthiness. There was no manifestation of it in the time of the Second Temple (Yoma 21b), while there were many during the time of Elijah (Tosef., Soṭah, xii. 5). According to Job xxviii. 25, the Holy Spirit rested upon the Prophets in varying degrees, some prophesying to the extent of one book only, and others filling two books (Lev. R. xv. 2). Nor did it rest upon them continually, but only for a time. The stages of development, the highest of which is the Holy Spirit, are as follows: zeal, integrity, purity, holiness, humility, fear of sin, the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit conducts Elijah, who brings the dead to life (Yer. Shab. 3c, above, and parallel passage). The pious act through the Holy Spirit (Tan., Wayeḥi, 14); whoever teaches the Torah in public partakes of the Holy Spirit (Cant. R. i. 9, end; comp. Lev. R. xxxv. 7). When Phinehas sinned the Holy Spirit departed from him (Lev. R. xxxvii. 4; comp. Gen. R. xix. 6; Pesiḳ. 9a).
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Mary Or Subtle Demon? by budaatum: 9:23am On Sep 03, 2019
Dissemination of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit dwells only among a worthy generation, and the frequency of its manifestations is proportionate to the worthiness. There was no manifestation of it in the time of the Second Temple (Yoma 21b), while there were many during the time of Elijah (Tosef., Soṭah, xii. 5). According to Job xxviii. 25, the Holy Spirit rested upon the Prophets in varying degrees, some prophesying to the extent of one book only, and others filling two books (Lev. R. xv. 2). Nor did it rest upon them continually, but only for a time. The stages of development, the highest of which is the Holy Spirit, are as follows: zeal, integrity, purity, holiness, humility, fear of sin, the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit conducts Elijah, who brings the dead to life (Yer. Shab. 3c, above, and parallel passage). The pious act through the Holy Spirit (Tan., Wayeḥi, 14); whoever teaches the Torah in public partakes of the Holy Spirit (Cant. R. i. 9, end; comp. Lev. R. xxxv. 7). When Phinehas sinned the Holy Spirit departed from him (Lev. R. xxxvii. 4; comp. Gen. R. xix. 6; Pesiḳ. 9a).


GLYCOLYSISS:
With the assistance of the Holy spirit ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Mary Or Subtle Demon? by budaatum: 8:58am On Sep 03, 2019
GLYCOLYSISS:
With the assistance of the Holy spirit ?
Done with you bro.
Take care & have a blissful day
I'm so glad you found me that. I needed to remind Joseph.

Believe is the sort of thing satan does and not what "genuinely sanctified & experience the Holy ghost baptism" people ought to do. I think "genuinely sanctified & experience the Holy ghost baptism" people ought to 'know'. They would have found if they had sought.

Take care too Gly.
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Mary Or Subtle Demon? by budaatum: 11:33pm On Sep 02, 2019
GLYCOLYSISS:
There's nothing like someone is filled with the holy spirit 1/4 ..
You're either having the Holy spirit ,or not.
You're filled with the Holy spirit when you're genuinely sanctified & experience the Holy ghost baptism,or you're not filled at all.
The bible stated over & over again how any sincerely sanctified person is filled with the Holy spirit.
Mary did not get filled any better with the Holy spirit than any person that's sanctified & have consecrated him/she self for God.
Lol Gly! Are you knew here? This is buda. The one with the looking eyes and a reasoning mind. The Bible does not "state" to me. I read the words in the Bible and reason with my mind and with the immense assistance of the Holy Spirit I hope I acquire an understanding that is to the greatest Glory to God. Please know, I often fall short.

Indeed there may be nothing like a ¼ filled with Holy Spirit, but look around you. Show me some here who are or who claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Would you say they are all equally filled with the Holy Spirit? Even amongst the people of God, the preacher people and co, will you say they are all equally filled? Do they all appear equally sanctified & consecrated to you, or do none of them have the Holy Spirit?
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Mary Or Subtle Demon? by budaatum:
GLYCOLYSISS:
Who is doubting if Mary is filled with the Holy spirit ?

You made a point that got my attention,so I was only looking for you to bring up Biblical passage or whatever you got to buttress your point.
Below was exactly your view ;

"Mary was filled with the Holy Spirit while most other human's seem to be only ¼ filled"

The highlighted was exactly what I want you to bring forward a Bible evidence for that.
There's quite a lot of people in the Bible who were not filled at all with the Holy Spirit not to talk of a ¼ filled, so I don't see why I should provide evidence for it when it wasn't even the argument I was making.

That said, here is Paul seeing dimly in the dark waiting for when he would see in full.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:01pm On Sep 02, 2019
coluka:
How many Greenlanders did your source interview? The image you posted said a Greenland resident (one person), I am sure if you interview all Greenland residents, you will find a lot of them that will tell people like you to shut the fvck up!!
Please find me only one single Greenlander willing to sell.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Appeared To Me For The First Time In Decades Last Night. by budaatum: 4:55pm On Sep 02, 2019
jesusjnr:
Lol!

Maybe you're trying to confess that you have been on drugs since then, no wonder you've acting as someone on drugs!

I don't need drugs for anything, I got God!
Don't take my word for it jnr, but you need some medical assistance. You are not well.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Be The Richest Man On Earth by budaatum: 4:48pm On Sep 02, 2019
jesusjnr:
Lol!

Satan trying to use the Bible to justify his lies.

Jesus loved His enemies yet told them to go and sin no more, so Buda telling you and the homosexuals to go and sin no more is the Will of God.

Though your god is not mine, for I don't worship Satan as you do, being a member of a Satanist organization, Rosicrucian Order!
You think repeating lies will sanctify you jnr, but that relys on the ignorance of your audience, which as you refuse to notice, is a fabrication of your mind. For if you opened your eyes you'd see peace does not reign on any of the numerous threads you've opened on this forum and you yourself are the troublemaker.

If I were you, I'd wonder which god you learnt your behaviour from because it sure ain't from the one who's name you bear.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Ancient Coptic Manuscripts Vindicate Jehovah Witnesses At John 1:1? by budaatum: 4:41pm On Sep 02, 2019
Emusan:
If there's no "perfect correct", at least there should be MOST LIKELY CORRECT rendition.

Which rendition is most likely correct, the word was God or the word was a god?
The question you ask above is similar to the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+12%3A18-24&version=KJV]dispute[/url] between the Pharisees and the Sadducees that Christ was asked to resolve. One group only accepted the Books of Moses as the Word of God, while the other included much more books. Christ said to both parties:

Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

We say Scripture is inspired. I would add, so too is understanding. We err if we know not Scripture nor the Power of God.

Emusan:
But if those texts are already corrupted and MOST HISTORICALLY UNRELIABLE Gospel, then it can't be for the perfection of humans.
Corrupted? Be thankful that you have what you have, I'd say, for the choice really is, that or nothing.

History was not so much done as we know it to be done today so judging Scripture by its historical accuracy is an error. It was not intended to be historical, yet, for perfection it still is. For if you can possibly remove the influence of Scripture through the centuries from the human psyche, I am certain we'd be a lot more unevolved than we are today.

A work in progress I call it. We are being built into a people of power through the immense power of the Word of God. We definitely would have been a lot more ignorant than we are now if God had not breathed the Word into our nostrils, and would love each other a lot less than we currently do.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Appeared To Me For The First Time In Decades Last Night. by budaatum: 4:18pm On Sep 02, 2019
jesusjnr:
Maybe you next time you should ask Satan clearly who he sent you to, for I have not taken medication for over a year now.

So you miss road, and are completely lost.
Over a year? You been here just about that long so you must have appeared when you stopped taking your meds which explains a lot!
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Be The Richest Man On Earth by budaatum: 4:09pm On Sep 02, 2019
jesusjnr:
Look at this ignorant fool, who doesn't know that my job is to do the will of God, Lol!

Or are you the one feeding me or paying my wages?

God is! For a labourer is worthy of his wages.

You and get yourself a good job not being the devil's workshop!
God must have not included "love one another" and even "your enemies" in the job description you got, which makes one wonder what god gave you the job that you've been given.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by budaatum: 4:07pm On Sep 02, 2019
joseph1013:
Again, much ado about nothing.

Too many people seem to have issues with expressing their thoughts simply.

You say there is quite a lot of 'evidence' out there about gods.... Can you provide these?

It's also interesting how you keep keeping up with this strawman. You seem to have a penchant for creating your own argument and running with it.

The Christian proclaims Yahweh exist. The Muslim proclaims Allah exists. We request for evidence. They don't provide. We say it is intellectually sound to reject these claims. You turn up to say it is not good enough.

Perhaps it is because you don't know the meaning of the words you use.

A quick look at the DISBELIEF in the dictionary shows,

"inability or refusal to accept that something is true or real."

Disbelief is not necessarily in the business of searching or knowing. It is about considering the evidence or lack of evidence brought forward.

But then, we have you to obfuscate issues.
The evidence for gods (not existence, mind), is the vast amount of written word that exists on the topic. It's probably insufficient for you if you expect physical material evidence that you can weigh and measure. The tortoise and the hare in Aesop Fables does not exist, yet we learn quite a lot from the fables about them. Philosophy too cannot be measured or weighed, yet no sane person would claim philosophy does not exist.

"Disbelief (and belief) is not at all in the business of searching or knowing". It is about making things up in ones head usually with very little attempt to understand before believing or disbelieving it, and is what I've called "intellectually lazy and unequivocally dishonest". An "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" person would first seek an understanding of what is meant instead of discarding it as you are so swift to do. It is afterall in no way intellectually sound to reject (or accept) claims one does not understand. And asking 'Christians' and 'Muslims', who can only proclaim what they believe, is like asking random people in the street about calculus. But then, your question is about "exist", so you're probably asking the right people. You'd go elsewhere if you were seeking to understand.

As to straw, I'm relying on the fact that unlike your belief about me, you yourself "know the meaning of the words you use". If you did, you'd see this thread is all about strawmanning, as in stating the beliefs of some and equating it to the understanding of all then whacking it all down. Nowhere have I found you seeking to understand the obfuscated complex issue called gods which have existed even since humans have reflected.

And yes, "not good enough" for someone of your intellectual ability. Though I confess that's just a belief of mine.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Ancient Coptic Manuscripts Vindicate Jehovah Witnesses At John 1:1? by budaatum: 2:26pm On Sep 02, 2019
Emusan:
Claiming it's your favorite and as well MOST HISTORICALLY UNRELIABLE Gospel, doesn't make sense!

Anyway, I didn't see anything like hatred in the OP, it simply asked the same question people have asked for century.

Since you're unravelling the truth in John. Can you tell us which rendition is most likely correct or perfectly correct?
Then you don't know op, and you don't know Christ, for whosoever is not against him is with Him, and those with Him are peacemakers and not division makers like op.

There's nothing like "perfectly correct" when it comes to the Gospels. They were all written long after Christ had died by people who were not even there, and they have all gone through edits and rewrites over the years for all sorts of intentions and purposes. The JW version is just one more rewrite with intentions, but so are every version from the very beginning.

Yet are they all for the perfection of we humans, to learn from and to perfect ourselves like the Father in heaven is perfect. For when it is said that you should "Seek first the Kingdom of God", Wisdom is principal.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Be The Richest Man On Earth by budaatum: 1:58pm On Sep 02, 2019
jesusjnr:
Lord give us church leaders like Peter that would rather distribute the riches like Jesus the Master would, instead of those mammon worshipping pharisees in today's church who would be accumulating it unto themselves.
Ogbeni go and get a job instead of wailing that Oyedepo is not feeding you!

Politics › Re: The Stupidity Of Igbo Liberals. by budaatum: 1:55pm On Sep 02, 2019
Perhaps change title to Stupidity of Igboland Advocacy, since we can't even determine which land to include or not.

Nigeria Kwenu! I say.
Education › Re: Benue State University Closed As Students Protest New CGPA Grading by budaatum: 1:51pm On Sep 02, 2019
Abi na. Dem no wan learn so make dem go dem papa house go de shut dem papa gate!
Politics › Re: Osinbajo Asks Nigerians To Cry To God For Help As Adeboye Supports RUGA Suspensi by budaatum: 1:48pm On Sep 02, 2019
SimDan95:
Although this news look fake,
As fake as walking on water.

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