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bemeruca:
The guy identifies himself as a socialist, yet here you are making excuses for him.

basilico:
You are so full of crap. I've already shown you Mamdani saying he is a socialist, instead of admitting it ,you engage in nonsensical questions

Perhaps you should educate yourselves some.

https://wapo.st/4lxHBI3

Why should I make excuses for Mamdani being a socialist when I myself promote socialist free school meals?

Ibime:
Like I said, 98-99% of these kids are already fed

And the ones who don't eat, it only makes them tough, rugged and resilient.

Secondly I don't know any Primary school student who won't share their food with their classmate who doesn't have, that is the real socialism, the one that comes from the heart, not picking tax payers pockets to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

If you can share your meal with your classmate, you'd likely ask they be given free school meals in case you are not there to share your meal with your classmate. You after all wouldn't want them to starve when you are not there now, would you.

That said, I don't agree with your 98-99%, but I still would advocate for free school meals for the 1-2% who are not already fed.

basilico:
You are the most ...

Nice try trying to pass on what you are known for.

Let me know when Mamdani seizes you as a means of production and enslaves you to work for free.

Ibime:
Unfortunately for Elon his alliances are with the very far right so he can't present himself as a middle candidate

Like I said from the start, we would judge Trump on the deficit. Trump being a populist can only expand the deficit

Trump is the only conservative I know that dashes people free money just so they can hail him
I remember the case of $600 stimulus checks when he was shouting that they should increase it to $1.2k for everyone. Real conservatives were turning in their grave.

Dump is giving free sandwiches to everyone, and three course meals to the rich, lol, and most "Real conservatives" voted for it today.

I hear its because they are afraid of him primarying them, but I hope they are primaried by their constituents.

Ibime:
Imagine spending £1 in every £25 to feed some brats whose parents already feed them.

If their parents could feed them we wouldn't be advocating free school meals, and would be arguing for free university education instead, because that would further increase the tax they end up paying and increase gdp too. We wouldn't however pay for them to get degrees in golf course design, since we are paying for their education.

We only provide free school meals because we see their kids are malnourished and we don't want them ending up brats.

bemeruca:
If pro-life advocates say not to get pregnant, you'll respond with "my body, my choice."

You are saying they should be stopped from getting pregnant.
Why not adhere to the slogan "My body, my choice" and allow them to make the decision to get pregnant and then choose to have an abortion?

Stay on topic, this your side missions on maths, bezos no they relevant here.

Shows how complicated things can be, don't it.

If you get pregnant and decide to abort because you can't afford to feed your child or for whatever reason, that's your choice and I support you.

If you get pregnant and decide to keep your child despite not being able to afford to feed it, I want society to feed your child because it is not your child's choice to be born by an irresponsible parent.

Now, if left to me, you shouldn't even be allowed to fuq if you can't feed a child 3 meals a day, and cloth it and educate it properly, but thankfully, no one made buda God.

Ibime:
The UK Government does not give free school meals past the age of 6. That only applies to Reception, Year 1 and Year 2. Add Year 3 to 6 and your £1.4 bln becomes circa £3.5 bln or 4% of UK Govt budget pre covid.

The UK government's budget for the financial year 2025/26 is expected to be around £1,335 billion, so 3.5b can not be 4%. But left to me, the UK government will be forced to spend 5%. And that's why I'm not the school meals minister or chancellor.

Children whose families receive certain qualifying benefits or have a low household income receive free school meals past Reception, Year 1 and Year 2.

The benefits of introducing free school meals have long been proven. Children who eat healthy, free school meals have lower obesity rates, better academic performance and behaviour and improved lifetime productivity.

New research shows they also deliver significant economic benefits - for every £1 invested in providing free school meals to children receiving Universal Credit, £1.38 would be returned.

https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/expanding-free-school-meals-would-generate-ps413-billion-economy

Jerryhare:
Trump wahala too much. He should leave this man to rest

Leave him for where?

Dude, there's not much entertainment out there, so please let me watch fight.

Ibime:
To stop 2% of children from eating £2 per week sandwiches doesn't mean you feed 100% of children £15 per week balanced meals

That's killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer and part of the reason we keep running massive deficits in the West

£2 per week sandwich (I'm certain you mean per day), is not sufficient food for a kid! And, if you feed your child sandwiches every day, it will cost me more providing health care due to their malnutrition.

As for deficits, the UK government spends about £1.4 billion a year on free school meals in England, and will spend £59.8 billion on defence in 2025/26. But I'm certain you are against that too, though do correct me if I'm wrong.

bemeruca:
He has broken down the cost to feed a kid in a week. Any parent who cannot meet that obligation should have their kids taken away. It's not everything the government will do.

I do not subscribe to his breakdown, and nor am I asking the government to do everything. Or do you not recall you railing against equity for your kids in maths, while I insisted on offering my kids superiority?

Equity is insisting your kids sit in lessons I give my kids, or insisting I teach my kids only to the standard rubbish parents achieve with theirs. Or insisting my kids share their caviar with your kids who have only chips and beans, or Ibime's kids getting to fly in private jets rich kids fly in.

An extension would be you insisting your kids inherit Bezos wealth, which is what you'd likely claim we are fighting for in your maths is racist logic.

As I have said, a means test for a license before you get pregnant. Barring that, we won't let your kids starve because you are a lousy parent.

bemeruca:
The government does a lot for the children already. Maybe the schools should provide meals for the children to take home.

Ibime's concern is cost. Children in care cost more than free meals and transport and education combined.

We here in UK already provide meals for children at home, and its not from schools.

bemeruca:
It is mind boggling how you guys are missing Ibime point.

Perhaps if you explain Ibime point, we'd not miss it.

Go on. Give it a go.

armyofone:


The bolded just too funny

But Budaatum- Hungry children can be a distraction in the classroom. Not necessarily rumbling stomach but the emotional aspect of it.

This many fail to note.

Nigeria does not provide free meals or even education to children in the North. So they become alimanjeris and disturb you in the South, and the entire Nigeria benefits from the insecurity they provide.

Just forcing them to receive free education will increase our gdp and decrease the tax we pay for securing ourselves against them. But Naija people would rather build walls to keep them out of our yard, which is stupid if I'm asked me.

Ibime:
As I dey here, some children are flying private Jet or in private education but not my children. Who will provide equity for my children? We can't equalise everybody.

This is where you conflate issues.

No one is providing private jet for your children, so you don't want free meals provided to children who need it.

It's as if you think free meals equalise, when in fact they make it likely your own children are not disadvantaged by the rumbling stomach of a hungry child in their class.

When I was a kid, we'd sit at the dining table to eat, then see this poor woman with her 5 kids coming. Quickly, we'd eat all we can, because soon as ma sees them, she'd stop us eating and then redistribute the food between the 10 of us. Damn did we hate the equity!

My siblings and I went on to sponsor that woman's first born to study marine engineering in Ghana, and her second to LASU to become an art teacher.

Those kids father was a builder, and a drunk, so you know where his money went. His wife who sold fish, had a permanent black eye until ma intervened.

No one is equalising or providing equity. Just, opportunity.

basilico:

Zohran Mamdani: "Our end goal, seizing the means of production" HOLY F

pic.twitter.com/aWfAmj8uNn

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) June 30, 2025

Bullseye.
Mamdani talks about socialism and seizing the means of production.

I doubt you'll respond to this by asking me how I know whether he means what he said.

I wish you are aware that one "mean of production" is labour. If you were aware, you'd be posting here that Mamdani will seize people and force them to labour as slaves.

Go on. Try thinking a bit with a "maths is racist" reasoning, and you'd see him bringing back chains.

Ibime:
I'm talking free food not free travel

And I'm lumping them together, as you read above.

Ibime:
This is a myth propagated by the food bank industry

In low income neighbourhoods, kids are fatter on average. There is no death of sustenance, only death of quality food.

A simple review of benefit payments shows that feeding is the last problem you expect on any benefits budget and any parent sending their child to school without food is negligent

Speaking as a child from lowest income household as a teenager with my mum working as a teaching assistant when we first returned from Nigeria, and my father in Nigeria, I never failed to have Wagon wheels, crisps and sandwich in my lunchbox. That was a single low income household with 5 kids to support, so I'm not buying any lamba about poverty. Even when I moved out of the house at 16, I got a weekend job that paid me £140 per week. From that £140, I paid my own rent, travelled to college everyday, ate well and had savings. People need to stop making excuses while their parents are puffing 20 cigarettes per day.

Unfortunately it's not Govts job to legislate for quality of food. Hunger is well taken care of by any job or benefits system. On an average day if you offer kids vegetables or fruits, they will hardly eat anyway, same as we did in Nigeria. Thankfully kids mostly use excess carbs and sugar for vertical growth rather than horizontal.

Ibime, when I went to Nigeria, I was at a time selling eggs and can coke at the Lagos end of Ibadan expressway. Danfo would stop on my tiny foot while I try to collect 50 kobo, and when I get home some poor woman will be begging ma for food for her 5 kids. I'll let you imagine who's money they sometimes got.

I got one Naira a week for school, which covered transport to and fro for the five days. Monday, I'd spend 20 kobo on transport, and being flush, 20 kobo on rumbling stomach alleviation. Food was not provided at school, and home rid not provide a packed lunch. Breakfast was ogi. On Tuesday, I'd spend 10 kobo on food and 20 on transport, and by Wednesday morning I'd have 30 kobo left. That left me with 10 kobo to get to school that day and the 2 days left in the week, so no food, and no transport money to get home, meaning I got to walk the 5 miles.

My first job after school was at my uncle's sawmill for food and board, till I returned home to UK and worked at Favourite Fried Chicken for £1.10 an hour.

I support school meals for underprivileged kids because its not their fault their parents can't or just don't provide them with a healthy diet. And investing in those kids makes it less likely they'd be a liability on society, and make them valuable tax paying assets.

Our difference in opinion on this issue makes me glad there's democracy. I wouldn't want you to unilaterally impose starvation on underprivileged kids, and I wouldn't want the power to ban hard up or irresponsible parenting.

And note. Free school meals and transport are simply an extension of the benefit system that is directly focused on the kid.

Truths9ja:
but it never helps in job creation. Yes education is the best legacy, but not helping enough in the area of job creation.

Education does very much help with job creation. It allows you to see the possibilities that exist beyond the immediate horizon.

If you educate yourself to be a doctor, say, you may start a business healing people, and hire others to assist you.

If you educate yourself to be an engineer, you may open an engineering shop and hire others to engineer with you.

Education, see, is the acquisition of knowledge. When Eve acquired it in the Garden of Eden, her eyes opened, and she gained wisdom, and she freed herself and her Adam from naked ignorant slavery from whence they went on to become self employed and populate the entire earth, it is written.

And when a Gospel has it written that, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, its basically telling you that worshipping education, or at least learning to read, is the beginning of attaining eternal life, or at least peace of mind in the short life lived on earth.

Pity you'd think otherwise though. Its a damnation on the mediocre education dished out in Nigeria.

Ibime:
That one na for your pocket. You have your own Mamdani in London, Sadiq Khan who introduced it last year to win votes.

When did you become like those lying deplorables?

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2005/june/free-travel-on-buses-and-trams-for-under16s

Maeve7:
There are a lot of people who are unfit to be parents. Whether they can afford sandwiches or not is quite irrelevant when they don’t take the time to get their kids ready for school.

But can we afford to let these children down? I don’t think so.

If it were up to me, people who intend to be parents will sit a test to qualify just as they must pass a test for a driving license. But since its not up to me, I'm glad to live in a country that cares for it's vulnerables.

Ibime:
Parents should take responsibility for feeding their children at school as they do at home. We are not a third world country and there is nobody that cannot buy bread and ham for sandwiches. This £2 Ham will feed 2 children for 2 weeks. If it's Haram for you, Turkey dey. This was how we ate at school.

You know very well there's lots of irresponsible or just hard up parents in the unthird world country you live in who can not feed their kids. And that's not a reason to put them in care which costs a lot more than just helping their parents feed them. Besides, they'd be very unhealthy, and a liability to the socialist health care system, so we better feed them before they become a greater liability.

Having hungry children in your child's class will negatively impact your child's education, because their hungry rumbling stomach will distract the entire class.

Truths9ja:
education is never a key to hunger. It's our mindset that needs to be changed.

Education changes mindsets. The more you learn the more your mindset will change.

bemeruca:
Imaging someone ....

I will respond to you when you say something worth my time.

https://www.nairaland.com/8462651/why-exactly-going-school-when/5#135939314

chris81964:
what happened to Mercedes?

Antonelli drives a Mercedes. Russel was 5th.

budaatum:
Verstappen and Antonelli out on lap one after arguing over same tarmac.

bemeruca:
I am talking about a different one.

And I am talking about our current conversation!

Don't bring in stuff you don't want referred to.

bemeruca:
Leave cococandy out of this...

Shouldn't you have said this to yourself before you brought her into "this" ?

Chief2410:
I want a better Nigeria as much as you do but we are too divided to create that.The leaders have successfully divided us that the tribalism in Nigeria is worse than racism abroad. It is divide and conquer rule.

No leader divided me from you or you from me.

It is our ignorance that divides us from each other, and that's for us to solve, and not some leader who reaps benefit from our ignorant division.

One day we will cure ourselves of our ignorance. My hope is its before we kill each other first.

bemeruca:
5 and 11 is not similar. My point is, every nation in the world provide free public transportation.

Nigeria does not provide free transport, and nor does Greater Manchester provide universal free transport for 5-11s.

Chief2410:
all these things you are saying sounds very ideal but in today's Nigeria where we are divided along tribal and religious line,it is almost impossible to achieve.

I agree. Ideal. That's why we continue to be confronted with the realities of joblessness and hunger. The leaders love our division too, as it ensures we'd never organise to solve our common problems. Hunger and joblessness does after all not give a flying fuq about anyones' tribe or religion.

My hope is that it stops being ideal, and we make it a reality. Until then, agbado, lol.

bemeruca:
This is true for every nation in the world. It has nothing to with socialism. Manchester and London just have different age range.

Last time I checked, Nigeria does not provide free school meals for anyone, though I'd argue subsidies on electricity and whatever else we subsidize qualifies as a meal, except its for adults.

London and Greater Manchester have similar age ranges, please. Just that our London mayor seems more socialist inclined and London has more money for it too.