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Haven't had toast or bread this year I don't think, but I just might go bake a loaf so I can enjoy toast with a beer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK8hqzrrOaQ?si=3_Rym9HLQ_E8qs23

Just so we all know barbarism still exists.

She threw her one-day-old infant into the gutter
https://www.nairaland.com/8234942/housewife-dump-day-old-baby-gutter#132352199

Obrigardo:
I'll guess your obvious answer would be your Religion.

I actually owe kkins25 so much and was about to say but found his own words so he says it himself.

kkins25:
Bear in mind, that I am an atheist.

But know that some atheists are recidivist to their previous religions, or even adopt atheism as their new religion. Not that I'm saying kk does either, mind.

God bless you and this thread.

I am an atheist.

Stainlezzking:
These Asians just want to milk Nigeria off every penny.. let Nigerian industries be only allowed. Else they will keep converting their revenue back to dollar, increasing demand for the dollar again

Dude, please. Nigerians have been trying to milk ourselves, but only the blind will not see that our refineries can not milk.

So kindly let South Korea Asians come and milk us if they can. They will create jobs and employ Nigerians who will buy milk with the Naira salary we will earn!

basilico:
My opinions as stated in my earlier post to the resident idiot is 100% factually correct , and no mere mortal can ever convince me otherwise.
Just like we can never convince you not to abort an 8 month foetus.
Put up with me or ship out.

You are the resident idiot, whether you are convinced or not. And no one has to put up with you when we can just repeatedly tell you you are a pointless nuisance.

Trust me. When I'm bored of you, I wouldn't even notice you, but for now I got time to process aborting you.

This is just stupid! You'd think a government would be pleased to have its citizens sing the countries national anthem, but not ours it seems. They want us to get permission. angry angry

Thankfully, we can all freely sing the now old national anthem, and to be honest, Arise O' Compatriots is far more appropriate and revolutionary than the useless banner we are being handed!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVk7QT4sa8E?si=WeuDme2JmiBkCFRY

basilico:
Impressive. There are more liberals here than conservatives by a big percentage and you also like the sex sections. Which have more traffic

You are a nuisance liar that needs to be aborted!

This is just stupid! You'd think a government would be pleased to have its citizens sing the countries national anthem, but not ours it seems. They want us to get permission.

Thankfully, we can all freely sing the now old national anthem, and to be honest, Arise O' Compatriots is far more appropriate and revolutionary.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVk7QT4sa8E?si=WeuDme2JmiBkCFRY

basilico:
Show us yours😀😀😀
Homework teacher.

Compare your limp diq with my bra, basilico, you immature nuisance!

And that's with 42817 posts. Do the math.

Xavier5:
As I made it known, I'm pro-life, and my reasons for that is because I believe that all human life irrespective of race, gender, viability, socio-economic status, intelligence, or stage of development, has intrinsic value......

As I've told you, as soon as I get to those last two words I quoted above in anything you post, I just stop reading.

The reason is that you have not yet explained what you mean by those words so everything else you say is pointless, and much of what you've said up to then becomes meaningless.

Fuq man! You'd have explained your "intrinsic value" in fewer words than this if you cared or knew what you are talking about and respected your intended audience!

I'm going to wait till you explain what you mean by those words. Then perhaps you can repost this to remind me to read it. Until then, and only as far as I am concerned, you are pissing in the wind and I am thankfully upwind so it doesn't blow on me.

basilico:
I can boast 8000 likes out of 12.5K posts.
Hmmm. I'm unwanted here.

You can boast that 2 people follow you too, but I can assure you that I will make profit if I crowdfund to abort you because you contribute only nonsense here.

kkins25:
I'm not particularly arguing against abortion, I'm just trying to point out that the arguments for abortion, aside from that of rape and minors, aren't a solid one. Or, rather, not convincing.

You'd have a point if anyone here was trying to convince you to abort your baby even if you got it by being raped and are a minor, but no one is trying to convince you to abort anything except the nuisance basilico who does need to be aborted and for whom I got the numbers for already and don't need yours!

kkins25:
Can you answer this though, If an unborn child is not your "child" yet, why do all states agree to check for viability before even agreeing to contemplate carrying out an abortion on a 24-week-old fetus? Why not abort an 8-month-old fetus? why not just wait until delivery and then unalive the baby? We can go on and on about the metaphysics.

The nuisance here will lie to you that "in Springfield, they are aborting 9 month pregnancies, they are aborting at 12 months, they are even aborting at 12 years old", but I guess that's why he's a lying nuisance.

We check because we don't just want to abort willynilly and because we are not murderers and because its the decent proper right thing to do. Otherwise, we'd still be bashing babies heads against rocks at the bottom of the river.

And that act sums it up. I have indeed commited murder if I kill the wanted gift of God foetus in your womb against your will, but if you kill or ask me to help you kill the foetus in your own womb within the limits the law allows, we have committed a legal abortion. The first is like stealing from you, while the second is you willingly giving something away.

kkins25:
Abortion, in our society isn't the norm. Since it's an new development, it's up to it's champions to come up with arguments to convince society to accept it.

Indeed abortion was not the norm in our society. In the past we carried the unwanted baby to term and then bashed its head with a rock and drowned it in a river, or just smothered it with a pillow, but new development has thankfully arrived and championed abortions instead, which have been very easily accepted instead of the barbaric infanticide that was the norm.

kkins25:
You can't enter building and tell somebody who believes babies are gifts from God that the "baby is like a parasite." Haba!

No one is entering any building to tell anyone that their gift of God baby is a parasite and should be aborted! And if anyone did enter a building and tell anyone that their gift of God baby is a parasite that should be aborted, the mother would rightly scratch that person's eyes out if her relatives and others don't first, unless that baby was basilico, who most would pay and rejoice to have aborted even long after term because he is a nuisance and not from anything worth keeping.

basilico:
Your stance on your body your choice leaves no room for doubt that you would like NHS to pay .........

NHS will not and does not need to pay for aborting the nuisance unwanted cell that you are in this thread that is not about aborting you in UK but about aborting you from a thread titled Politics in America.

In fact, if you had any dignity whatsoever, you would have aborted your nuisance unwanted self a long time ago, but since dignity is not intrinsic in you, I would willingly pay with my own money to abort the nuisance unwanted cell that you are.

basilico:
You never said that explicitly.

You, basilico, are aborted for making up lies as you do.

IjeBos:
His intrinsic value argument is based on Christian beliefs. Christianity is also the basis for what I can tell most if not all of his argument. It's the same form of "liberalism" that fueled the Catholics pro-life movement in the 70's.
Christians believe humans are created from the image of God and for HIS purpose. Hence the intrinsic value.

"Camouflage for some imaginary God", I called it. Like they want to bring their God in through the back door and hope we don't notice!

How I wish they wouldn't try to insult my intelligence by insulting themselves.

bemeruca:
define intrinsic

Should I define intrinsic after I asked you first and you haven't answered or before?

budaatum:
In fact, lets start with intrinsic. Tell me what intrinsic means to you please.

bemeruca:
- Thomas Hobbes

And by the way, you have not answered the questions I asked you!

bemeruca:
- Thomas Hobbes

You are really funny, and to be honest, I think Hobbes is way beyond your level of comprehension.

From what you quoted, "violence and the potential for murder are intrinsic to human behavior", but "that doesn't mean murder is morally intrinsic .....".

Is violence intrinsic to your behaviour?

Do you have the potential to murder anyone?

In fact, is your life "nasty, brutish, and short", or are you letting Hobbes tell you it is?

Xavier5:
Since you can't define what a human life is... or what it means to be a person. Let's end the discussion.

What you are saying is, you are not accepting my definition of human life.

Do note!

LordReed:
Maeve7, budaatum

It occurred to me that they might actually be referring to our instinctive drive for survival. But I don't consider that an intrinsic human value, it's a biological imperative like hunger pangs. What do you think?

If that is the case, my Lord, then they should say so.

It is not what Bemeruca thinks though, going by his list of what he claims is intrinsic, as none of the things he listed are biological imperatives like breathing, eating and shîtting.

bemeruca:
Honesty
Compassion
Respect
Integrity
Fairness
Responsibility
Love
Courage

Xavier5:
What is a human being?

A human being is a person.

Xavier5 is a human being who is a person.

A donkey is not a human being and is also not a person.

bemeruca:
Honesty
Compassion
Respect
Integrity
Fairness
Responsibility
Love
Courage

How are those intrinsic when many humans do their exact opposite constantly?

Can you say honesty is intrinsic in a liar?

Is compassion intrinsic in a narcissist?

In fact, lets start with intrinsic. Tell me what intrinsic means to you please.

bemeruca:
because you said so children start to lie at the age of 4. No one taught them to lie. you are crazy

Your children start to lie at 4. And while I'm certain you'd claim you never taught them, they clearly learnt it from you their lying father.

If you were less of a liar and more of a honest person, you'd have taught your 4 year old to be honest and not lie.

bemeruca:
so there is intrinsic human values?

I disagree!

Name some and lets consider them.

raumdeuter:
I completely agree with this. This is exactly why I am in support of abortion. Dont give birth to kids for someone else to finance

Thanks for showing Xavier5 you exist.

I agree with it too. Unfortunately, I got some irresponsible people who don't agree with me and who's school fees I do pay.

Xavier5:
Define person?

A person is a human being.

bemeruca:
I have told you for the 50th time that lying and killing is part of human nature (intrinsic). ...

You can tell me 1000 times for all I care, but lying and killing is not part of human nature! There are many people who don't lie, least not as much as you do, and I very much doubt even you have killed anyone yet, though convince me if you have!

Breathing, shîtting, eating is human nature. Every human on earth does these 3 things, making them intrinsic to humans.

bemeruca:
You don't seem to get what I am saying. lordreed was saying .....

I have just responded to your sidekick who is lying that buda has a gospel that buda does not have.

So don't you tell me what someone else is saying! Say what you are saying please!

Xavier5:
That's why I asked you, what makes an organism a human life? And does a fetus meet that requirement? Answer the question and stop beating about the bush. It's a simple question.

A human life is a person, and a foetus is not a person.

If I kill a human being in any society on earth, I would be charged for murder, but there is hardly any country that will prosecute me for killing a foetus inside me.