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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:52pm On Oct 08, 2024
Xavier5:
I mentioned child healthcare and welfare systems. With such, if a woman is known to be a drug addict, the government steps in to prevent her from doing that with the needed policies and healthcare.
Show me just one instance of a government anywhere stepping in with anything to prevent a pregnant drug addict from taking her drugs.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:45pm On Oct 08, 2024
wirinet:
No. They are displaying their sexuality in public. You don't see heterosexuals displaying their sexuality in public.
Really? I saw a couple flirting in the park, and a couple are kissing at the busstop. Is that public sexuality enough for you, or must they show their sex bits to qualify?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:38pm On Oct 08, 2024
kkins25:
I think, women who are that careless usually end up in jail and charged with murder if the baby is born with developmental problems.
No they do not usually end up in jail!

She can be a heroin junky all through her pregnancy, and still not be jailed despite making her baby a junkie too. A lot of those babies actually die, and she still would not be jailed.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:32pm On Oct 08, 2024
Xavier5:
If you even took your time to read my write-ups, I made it clear that despite the existence of the universal intrinsic knowing of the intrinsic value of human life, ......
As soon as I read, "the universal intrinsic knowing", which you haven't bothered to show exists, my mind just shuts down to whatever follows, because its like asking me to join in a venture with you that relies on hot water being 0⁰C.

Just saying. And I doubt I'm the only one.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:21pm On Oct 08, 2024
raumdeuter:
How is this different from what Xavier5 believes? Does this stop the person from being liberal?
I don't know what Xavier5 believes. But what I described does not stop a person from being liberal, and in fact shows a person is liberal.

Its like being liberal about homosexuality. One may not want to have same gender sex, but one can accept that others should have the right to be gay.
CrimeRe: EFCC Boss Raise Alarm Over Unable To Probe Corruption Cases In 10 States, Reveal by budaatum: 11:56am On Oct 08, 2024
Some competent blogger should please investigate and tell us these 10 states where corruption can't be probed so we can all make fun of the people in those states.

And please put my Osun State on the list, whether it deserves to be there or not as I want it probed more than it currently is.
PhonesRe: It’s An Error, NCC Withdraws Press Statement On Starlink by budaatum: 11:49am On Oct 08, 2024
We all knew it was an error, since NCC can't control Starlink price just as no one can control Naira-Dollar price or that of petrol.
TravelRe: Woman Calling Out VDM To Come Rescue Her From Extortive Airport Staff by budaatum: 11:46am On Oct 08, 2024
CyrusVI:
Imagine going to the airport and keep a few thousands aside for the officials in form of bribery on many mundane things

It has to stop
This has never happened to me, that I have to "keep a few thousands aside for the officials in form of bribery". But perhaps that's because I never give airport officials reason to request bribe from me.

Soon as Nigerian officials at the airport open my luggage, they'll see the tesuba that I put on top as juju, and underneath that is my Quran beside my Bible so they get the message.

I need my few thousand put aside money for Gulder at the duty free bar!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum:
basilico:
Same case. A woman cannot get a third trimester abortion within her state so poor thing has to travel out of state to obtain her reproductive rights abortion
To prevent that every state must allow abortion at whatever trimester.
Doctor says your wife will die if she does not terminate her third trimester non-viable pregnancy. What would you do?

Reasons for late terminations of pregnancy include when a pregnant woman's health is at risk or when lethal fetal abnormalities have been detected.[7][8]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy

CelebritiesRe: Mother Of Speed Darlington Begs Burna Boy ! (video) by budaatum: 11:33am On Oct 08, 2024
CyrusVI:
cheesy

Freedom of speech no dey true true

Just imagine if Burna was a politician.....People would have stormed the media telling us how Democracy is under threat as the big boys now gag the free-speakers


But as per Burna no be politician, moral police go justify this one


Hypocrites everywhere
In fact, I had to go check if Burna Boy don join police for de arrest people!
AutosRe: 1m - 1.5m Car Needed by budaatum: 11:30am On Oct 08, 2024
2special:
It will be by luck to get a functioning Korope for that amount, maybe the seller needs money urgently.
Don't spoil market please!

PhonesRe: NCC Cracks Down On Starlink Over Unauthorized Price Hike by budaatum: 11:25am On Oct 08, 2024
SoliBayNG:
Go check how much Americans are paying. If you can't afford it, there are other solutions.
I checked for them and have posted it below.

Residential starts at $75 a month, while ₦75000 is a mere 46.33 United States Dollar.

PhonesRe: NCC Cracks Down On Starlink Over Unauthorized Price Hike by budaatum: 11:17am On Oct 08, 2024
MakindeHassan:
Crackdown? Are they a criminal organization?

This is how we lose foreign investors. Dollar is going up, even customs have increased their billing and other government agencies but you don’t want an international private company to increase theirs?

Fix the economy and stop chasing shadows
You know what. After reading your post and some like it and seeing that some have sense, I think I don't need bother much here anymore because of your wonderful existence.

Not only your price, but your value too will inflate a 1000 fold.
PhonesRe: NCC Cracks Down On Starlink Over Unauthorized Price Hike by budaatum: 11:12am On Oct 08, 2024
Realdeals:
Thank you NCC
It is crazy, 100% sudden hike, with immediate implementation.
Don't you think its a pity there's no equivalent for petrol price hike, and naira-dollar price hike, both with immediate implementation?
PhonesRe: NCC Cracks Down On Starlink Over Unauthorized Price Hike by budaatum: 11:10am On Oct 08, 2024
tunwumi:
It is quite shocking that Nigerian law is toothless and doesn't have value we expected.

Can star Link try this in America?
Can Starlink charge whatever it wants in capitalist America?

Please buy my electrical tomatoes!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:20am On Oct 08, 2024
kkins25:
Yes, that would make you fascist. After all, my brain, my choice!
Thanks for recognising that it would indeed be fascist of me to insist 'your brain my choice'.

kkins25:
Republicans are taking a huge heat due to Trump's stup.i.dity. But, the team has something the Demos currently lack--- "blind unity." Biden must be crying himself to sleep. hahahahaha.
Republicans are taking a huge heat due to their loyalty to Trump's stup.i.dity, which I'm glad Biden does not have.

And to be honest, the only reason you'd think "Biden must be crying himself to sleep" because he doesn't have "blind unity" is because you think he must be and reason like dump who was crying and couldn't sleep after he lost an election, when the truth is, Biden did something very admirable indeed, to the point he shot up in my ranking of humans when he stepped down.

Values, as I say to Xavier5, are very subjective indeed.

kkins25:
Maga, I think, is a one-time sensation that will die when Trump loses steam.
Anyone left for a Tea Party, lol.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:31am On Oct 08, 2024
bemeruca:
can you have sex with a woman if she does not agree to it?
You obviously can "have sex with a woman if she does not agree", just as your pussy grabbing idol does grabs pussy without consent, but then we have agreed that you don't know what consent means, so no surprise there.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:24am On Oct 08, 2024
bemeruca:
i am not talking about rape. most women who are doing abortions are not doing it because of rape. So that is an exception.
You are not talking about rape because you say it is rare, and "most women who are doing abortions are not doing it because of rape", but you want to talk about abortions up to birth, despite that being very rare and what hardly any woman would do?

Hope you see why I call you an si?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:17am On Oct 08, 2024
raumdeuter:
I wrote a long post on liberals who oppose abortion and conservatives who support abortion but spaaambo00t wont let me post it

wirinet, budaatum, Xavier5

Is the person below Conservative or liberal?
I doubt you understand how this works. Do you know that a person can be against aborting for themselves but support the fact that others may want the choice?

Biden, being a Catholic, is not likely to want to abort, but he understands that others may want to, so chooses pro-choice Kamala as his VP.

Being able to allow others to chose for themselves to abort or not just as you have chosen not to, is liberal.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:29pm On Oct 07, 2024
IjeBos:
Even the UK is doing a better job with it from what I've read.
There has to be a balance. And I think laws can be structured that make spreading disinformation harder without running afoul of the 1st amendment. Maybe it's time to tweak section 230 and allow liability to media platforms that don't make a good faith concerted effort to shut down clear discernable lies that endanger the public good. The key of course would have to be in the language. We don't allow people to go into a crowded people and yell "FIRE" understanding what consequences that causes, we shouldn't allow the same on social media.

And Biden addressing American would be educating them.
We have different laws and education in UK that make a dump literally impossible here. We'd have labelled him a crackpot already and no one would listen to him even in a comedy club. But then, we also don't have people putting Bibles in classrooms neither I suppose, nor USA style freedom of speech.

By the way, we do not disallow people going into a crowded people and yell "FIRE", since they don't need our permission or allowing to go into a crowded people and yell "FIRE". What we do do, and only sometimes, is hold people responsible for the consequences of going into a crowded people and yell "FIRE".

In fact, you usually are allowed to do that without fear of arrest, lawsuits, or other legal consequences. Shouting “Fire” in a crowded theater, a metaphor that dates to a 1919 Supreme Court ruling by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., is widely—and wrongly—held to be a far-reaching exception to the First Amendment, which offers broad protection to free expression in the United States.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/shouting-fire-crowded-theater-speech-regulation/621151/
RomanceRe: Average Nigerians Daily Routine by budaatum: 3:04pm On Oct 07, 2024
Damian911:
Egyptian god that loves fruit
And went as far as creating slaves to farm it.

You called, Sir?

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:56pm On Oct 07, 2024
IjeBos:
Lol. I mean to the US.
In this scenario there are people who may need aid who may not get it because of the disinformation Musk is spreading.

Biden should speak out. Not only would it be good governing (making sure people know what resources are available) it would be good politics. Showing Trump to be a liar about something as serious as a disaster.
Trust me, Ijebos, that if it were possible to stop disinformation, I'd ban the Bible and the Qur'an first, not so much because they misinform (they don't), but because people are misinformed by not understanding them. Thankfully, I see the unintended consequence of their enlightening effect so I'm glad both exist.

Biden, or shall I say, liberalism, fights disinformation by educating, and Biden's government is doing what it can against the darkness of magaism trying to drown it out, and going any further would be edging into fascism, I think.

My hope is that more see the light shining in the dark that is trying to overcome it.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:39pm On Oct 07, 2024
Xavier5:
I wanted to go with a follow up question, does that mean nothing is inherently true or right? But then I saw the bolded. At least, you admit that truly there are things that are actually or inherently true or right, irrespective of individual opinions. You call them knowledge, I call them diverse names; concepts, beliefs, values, knowledge that are inherently or actually true or right. That's all I've been saying all this while.
Did you read where I said hot is 0⁰c in humptydumpty land? Please go back and read Ijebos responses in that conversation, as they rightly apply here.

Knowledge is not belief. (I have depluralised it on purpose). And the only reason you think otherwise is religion, which synonymises both words.

Xavier5:
Personal opinions are personal opinions. Reality is reality. How do we know what's actually or inherently true or right? Evidence, reasoning, and universal intrinsic knowing.
You see the bold? I've been letting you get away with it, but the truth is it is nonsense and meaningless, as there is no universe that intrinsically knows anything, and nor do we humans all universally know the same things. And while you might not admit it, I am fully aware that it's a camouflage for some imaginary God.

And now to your question "How do we know what's actually or inherently true or right?" Which is linguistically faulty, as true and right are not as interchangeable as you think, since "right" can mean "correct", or "proper", which are not the same thing as what is "true"!

We know what is true by checking the evidence with our senses. Eve plucked the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and ate it to check if it would surely kill her, only to find it was good for gaining wisdom and for opening eyes and freeing one from slavery. I know if it is true or not that I have a billion pounds in my bank account because I got off my ass and went to the bank to check my account so I know. Basically, we ask and knock and seek by using our senses check so we may know the truth.

We are often initially taught what we should accept as right or proper (morals, to be exact), i.e the 10 commandments, the law where we live, say please and thank you and the such like, but as we grow older, we individually decide what is right and proper for ourselves in many circumstances, and despite the desire of others to impose morality on one.

An example is abortions, where there is no universal Intrinsic agreement.

Xavier5:
And that's the summary of all I've been saying. That's why I made it clear that objectivity and subjectivity both exist.
No one is unclear about the existence of objectivity and subjectivity, Xavier. (Though I'm tempted to ask how subjective thoughts in your head can possible exist for me unless you make them objective for me to see their existence, lol.)

The question is, which is which. As in, what is objective existing verifiable fact, and what is subjective made up in one's head imaginary crap.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:39pm On Oct 07, 2024
wirinet:
You can't be liberal and at the same time be anti-abortion. Liberalism to means freedom of beliefs, actions and my body, as long as it does not infringement on the rights of other persons or injurious to the long term wellbeing of society.
I'd go as far as saying, the definition of liberalism is summed up in my body my choice, and I'm not limiting it to abortions.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:33pm On Oct 07, 2024
bemeruca:
So you are angry?

You'd be fine if TDS was not an issue for you.
TDS is a huge issue for buda, and you should know that by now.

At the last presidential election in USA, buda went to Wuhan to create Covid and brought it to America to kill millions of magas so dump would have fewer votes than Biden.

At the presidential election in USA in less than 30 days, all the immigrants, legal and illegal, that buda has been bringing into america will all vote for Kamala so she wins the presidential election.

Trust me, when I say we are not only eating the dogs and eating the cats and eating the pets in Springfield, but are using their blood to do the voodoo so dump loses all over America!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:25pm On Oct 07, 2024
LordReed:
BTW are you the one who said Xavier5 isn't a liberal? Do you know who said so?
I know Ijebos said so, my Lord. And I want to keep apologising to him for seeming to challenge his saying so.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:22pm On Oct 07, 2024
Xavier5:
Belief is subjective in the context of personal opinion? Or in the context that certain values or beliefs are inherent true and right? Which one.
Belief is subjective in all contexts, because it is done by individual subjects.

Personal opinion is also subjective because it is the opinion of personal individual subjects.

Value, as in, what is held to be of value, and the value things have, is subjective, because value is determined by individual subjects, a la one persons gold is another person's dross.

Xavier5:
Secondly, we can't all believe the same things, that's true.
Bingo.

And that's because we are all individual subjective subjects, each with separate brains in our heads, and with different educations and dictionaries, and understandings and contexts and etc and etc and etc and......

Xavier5:
But the argument is not if we must or should belief the same thing, but if some beliefs are inherently true or right.
When beliefs are true or right, they stop being beliefs and become knowledge.

And this, by the way, is why your post should be in a thread in the religious section where it rightly belongs, so I wouldn't need to hesitate to educate you about how stupid ignorant Adam was enslaved to the belief he would surely die until use her senses Eve freed him from slavery with knowledge.

I may believe all I want that I have a billion pounds in my bank account, but on going to my bank and checking my account I would know if I had a billion pounds in my bank account or not instead of merely believing unverified ignorant crap in my head like basilico always does here.

I may of course decide to go on believing whatever I want despite the available evidence but the objective reality is there whether I choose to accept it or not.

And on that note, I must plug The Newsroom, the series I'm currently watching. It shows the difference between belief and knowledge, and the extent competent journalists will go to differentiate between the 2.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:43pm On Oct 07, 2024
bemeruca:
So you are angry? Atheists like you don't do well when it comes to objective morality.
No I'm not angry, as I'm used to magas and repuglicans grafting and lying.

I'm disgusted. And I hope they are dealt with in 30 days.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian, Foreign Students Called TINUBU 'thief' During Protest In London(video) by budaatum: 6:05am On Oct 07, 2024
Did I just watch oyinbo chanting tinooboo, tinooboo, thief?

shocked shocked shocked
PoliticsRe: Why My Daughter Will Coordinate First Lady’s Office – Eno by budaatum: 4:25am On Oct 07, 2024
budaatum:
Good for him and his daughter.

They both should accept my condolence for their loss and my support.

PoliticsRe: Why My Daughter Will Coordinate First Lady’s Office – Eno by budaatum: 4:23am On Oct 07, 2024
Good for him and his daughter.

They both should accept my condolence for their loss and my support.

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