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The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated [b]if that's what the mother and the family desired,

After aborting a near term foetus that then got born, then "what the mother and the family desired"!?!

Please tell me the democrats imposed the abortion on the unwilling "mother and the family".

basilico:
Trust me? Why. That's a fact. All House democrats 210 of them rejected a bill that would force doctors to keep baby alive if it survives an abortion.
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You don't know how dumb you are. You just read this stuff, apply the most "maths is racist" logic and you got your new talking point. Its why I hardly bother, but its Sunday. So Rules. Its the one day we must use our God given brains.

At the moment, and currently all over the world, families are going to court to sue doctors who want to switch off the life support of their family member whom doctors have certified brain dead, they need the bed. Families are even sometimes suing doctors to terminate their brain dead family member because they can no more pay the bill. But maga republican you want doctors to "baby alive if it survives an abortion", and Ijebosb is telling me to be scared of maga basilicos, lol.

Who pays the bill? And how they voting?

CyberHustle:
funny thing is I didn't type in my bvn into that phone. The phone I did that with is still with me and BVN is linked to phone number or SIM and not google account on phone.
Another possibility is he sees my SMS where I checked BVN on my current phone and it was backed up into Google account from where he can restore and see it.

Dude, just tell us you sold your bvn along with your phone that you sold without first wiping your information, and we'd all pray it doesn't cost you much and you've learnt your lesson.

What happens there is we don't trust you. Any baby born alive is already considered a person, and killing it is murder, so your bill is stupid and pointless.

basilico:
My Body My choice . Budaatum what's wrong here.

2023. The House passed the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which says any infant born alive after an attempted abortion is a "legal person for all purposes under the laws of the United States." Doctors would be required to care for those infants as a "reasonably diligent and conscientious health care practitioner would render to any other child born alive."
The bill passed 220-210, and all 210 of the "no" votes came from Democrats. Only one Democrat voted for the bill — Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas — and one other Democrat, Rep. Vicente Gonzalez of Texas, voted "present."

The Bill passed the house.
100% of the 210 Nay votes from democrats.
Democrats don't want a baby who survives abortion to be allowed to live. In that case they want a post birth abortion. Can't figure out why.

I've not checked the Bills progress in the Schumer controlled senate.

basilico:
Rubbish. Marie Le Pen is not antisemitic. Her father was. She is not.

Never said she is antisemitic. Can you not understand however how some might hold her father against her?

bemeruca:
who is talking about you here? I am talking about the Palestinians.

So am I, Bem. We are talking about Palestine and Israel, and Ukraine and Russia, and my body my choice too.

I wear my dress with pride.

basilico:
France.

Socialist leader Raphaël Glucksmann:
“‘The only thing that matters to me is that the National Rally doesn’t win the elections and won’t govern the country. […] We can’t leave France to the Le Pen family’, he said

Sounds familiar. They know what's best for the people.
Better they just use AI to determine the next leader instead of having elections. Win win .

And of course you wouldn't bother checking why.

https://apnews.com/article/france-far-right-le-pen-antisemitism-march-1be755267b978c056de65f88a33c3302

basilico:
It boils down to anti semitism from the likes of Budaatum and ijebosb.

I'm not interested.

ijebosb:
Here is Israel's former chief spy Tami Pardo, clearly not a Hamas lover or antisemite saying the same things I've been saying for a while now.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arrogance-bullshit-top-insiders-netanyahu-025646703.html

bemeruca:
as long as the aim and goal is to exterminate the Jews, they don't deserve the freedom to do that.

Are you twisted or what? Of course I don't deserve, nor do I have the freedom to exterminate the Jews! Israel is not going to give me any such freedom, just as I too will not give Israel the freedom to take my land and exterminate me.

That, donut, both of us not giving the other the freedom to exterminate the other, is precisely why there is conflict and war! If not, you will shake your powerful nuclear weapons and take my land and exterminate me and I will just accept it because I am weak like you and there will be no conflict at all because I'd be dead. Unfortunately for you, I am alive and I am bold and I am fighting back and there is conflict.

bemeruca:
so why did you say this in bold?

Before 1948, there was a civil WAR. The Israeli struggle did not start when they got their independence

I agree there was war in the area, or conflict, at least.

The conflict has its origins in the rise of Zionism in Europe and the arrival of Jewish settlers to Ottoman Palestine in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.[23] The local Arab population opposed Zionism, primarily out of fear of territorial displacement and dispossession.[23] The Zionist movement garnered the support of an imperial power in the 1917 Balfour Declaration issued by Britain, which promised to support the creation of a "Jewish homeland in Palestine". Following the British occupation of the formerly Ottoman region during World War I, Mandatory Palestine was established as a British mandate. Increasing Jewish immigration led to tensions between Jews and Arabs which grew into intercommunal conflict.[24][25] In 1936, an Arab revolt erupted demanding independence, which the British suppressed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

And that above only refers to the current conflict, and not one I referred to as going back 5000 or so years!

As I said,

budaatum:
Bem, we are talking about one of the most embattled regions likely in the entire history of humankind. And it takes quite a lot of reading to even begin to realise how complex it is not to talk of understand it, unless you want to claim you've lived there for 5000 or so years so therefore know the various diverse cultures better than buda who clearly hasn't lived there.

Any day one chooses between the above is just the idle stupid choice of a date that suits ones argument, and I am not interested.

bemeruca:
I mean, they don't even know who they are.

This is just stupid! Even if they used to be Turks or Arabs or Romans or Greeks or whatever or Israelis for that matter, they'd lived their for centuries and now identify themselves as Palestinians, but if you'd rather deny them an identity, go ahead. Just know that holocaust is you obliterate identity and then you obliterate lives and existence, and such acts have historical consequences.

bemeruca:
Palestine was not a state back then as well as today. so what is your point?

I haven't made any point about Palestine being a state or not.

Facts are, some people who have chosen to call themselves Palestinians don't like thieves who arrived in 1948 taking their land.

bemeruca:
they are Jews expelled by the Romans, Even if many of them are not born in Israel, it is not up to the Arabs to decide who can come into the Israeli partition of the land. the Israelis welcomed their expelled brothers and sisters, ......

So, its not up to me to decide who lives on the land you stole from me? Is that because you have nuclear weapons and you are stronger than me and because others holocausted you or why?

And on top of that you expect me to welcome your "expelled brothers and sisters" too who will come and take more of my land and my brothers and sisters land?

Okay. And by the way, its Eid al-Adha. I will kill my goat to them so they have food to eat when they arrive.

Stop asking me questions I have answered. You don't need to like my answer, but stop with the needless bullying. Its pointless.

bemeruca:
Jews have always been in the land through many conquerers

Jews may have always been in the land, but the State of Israel, which is the current entity the Palestinians are fighting, was not there and hadn't been there for many centuries prior to 1948.

bemeruca:
The Above is all over the place. The Egyptians back then are not the Arabs of today.

The Israelite of today too are not the Israelites of any time known in history neither, is what you wouldn't accept, and its besides the point.

Some people who have lived on a land for centuries and who call themselves Palestinians are not happy that some who call themselves Israelis arrived in 1940something to take it from them. And the fact that you have nuclear bombs does not appear to be stopping them from fighting you back.

bemeruca:
Israelis are Palestinians too. What are you talking about?
Who are the Palestinians, you still haven't answered.

Palestinians are those who lived in the region known as Palestine, and the people in the West Bank and Gaza have adopted it as the modern name of themselves.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)

Ancient Israelis are Palestinians, since they are included in those who lived in the region known as Palestine. Modern day Israelis are however not commonly known as modern day Palestinians, I don't think, but do correct me.

ijebosb:
You referenced 'maga Basilcos'. Basilico is a grunt. An uneducated grunt. Magas are the grunts. The smart people, pulling the strings, don't believe the propaganda.

First, I did not "referenced"! "Maga basilicos" does not exist anywhere for me to reference it, so I, buda simply made it up.

And after I made it up, and after you assumed I meant just the grunts, I then specifically told you that my very own made up maga basilicos means "everyone, including the grifter and their leaders and the 6-3 and the pope and God and everyone else who wants to my body their choice". Yet, heres you like 4 post latter telling me what maga basilicos means?

Now, that's funny. Much.

ijebosb:
It's a means to an end. They just use people like the 'mega Basilicos' to get whatever policy they want. And the grifters reinforce the message to make money. They survive by enraging uneducated easily manipulated people.

Well, I guess I can't explain it enough that my own understanding of maga basilicos as I buda have used it includes the grifters using basilico and the grifters reinforcing the message to make money and everyone including all grifters and their leaders and the 6-3 and the pope and God and everyone else who wants to my body their choice. None of them doth buda fear!

And the reason I fear none of them is, you are not "enraging uneducated easily manipulated people", you are just scared because you see through their handmade bullshit and will protect my body my choice till yours and mine's dying breath plus some.

ijebosb:
I am telling you I am concerned. I see a concerted at the effort to dismantle the structures of the US. Structures such as Media, Government, and now the Courts. I am telling you that people who fight these battles are concerned. So, yes, I do think that the people pushing these ideologies can win, are capable of winning, because they have the "Maga Basilicos" as their foot soldiers; the very loud and very vocal minority.

There have indeed been countries where the ignorant stupid maga basilicos have taken power and dismantled what is seen as the established status quos, but I am not afraid because America has one of the most robust democracies in the world, and if it does not sustain it deserves to be dismantled and something more sustainable put up in its place. But even so I'm very certain the Constitution will be kept. And the fact that many like you are scared and afraid will make you go out to protect my body my choice in the United States of America where you live and can vote.

You watch the tenacity with which you fight buda, lol, telling buda what buda said and telling buda what buda meant and telling buda what not to do and telling what buda must fear - there's no way on this planet that ignorant maga basilicos can possibly beat Ijebosb that is beating buda like you are!

My confidence in you Ijebos is unshakeable.
But we might must work yours in you, I guess.

bemeruca:
These Arabs are trying the 3rd.

You obviously know no history, or you think it was not holocaust when your so called Israelites were enslaved for 400 years . And you definitely don't know that the so called Israelites were the people captured over a large region called Palestine who united under moses "Let my people go" banner. Or perhaps you think the Egyptians specifically went for the cattle herders in some tiny region and left everyone everywhere else alone.

You can't expect me to roll over just because you were persecuted by some others elsewhere. And if people want to holocaust you everywhere you go, I think you ought to at some point wonder what you might be doing to deserve it. Not that I'm saying you do, mind. But.

Bem, we are talking about one of the most embattled regions likely in the entire history of humankind. And it takes quite a lot of reading to even begin to realise how complex it is not to talk of understand it, unless you want to claim you've lived there for 5000 or so years so therefore know the various diverse cultures better than buda who clearly hasn't lived there.

bemeruca:
It is Israel that is actually defending themselves.

Israel that took land off Palestinians that had owned the land for centuries is defending itself from the people it took land off?

Okay.

ijebosb:
If you want to adjust what you wrote, you can say that now. What you can't do is pretend someone doesn't understand the very words you wrote.

ijebosb, please tell me that this your response was you accepting my adjustment that I already wrote and that you seem to have clearly not understand nor accepted and then chose to shove your own explanation down my throat!

ijebosb:
It's ok to be wrong or mistaken.

Naw! You don't say, is buda's sarcastic response.

basilico:
Can't even prove me wrong on anything.

I don't bother with you much at all dear.

Or don't you notice?

bemeruca:
Good. You are fighting, no one is faulting you to fight but do you expect people you are fighting to make you bread and butter even if they stole your land? No...

No. I don't expect thieves of my land, thieves of my water, thieves of my olives, thieves of my friends and my families and thieves of my lives to all of a sudden give me the bread and butter I've been asking for.

In fact, what the fuq would make you think buda would expect such a dumb thing, Bem? Is it because I have somewhere in the past shown you I am so blind I don't see the rubble Palestine is? If so, please show me so I can see the buda you see.

bemeruca:
They will defend themselves and fight with you because you are fighting them.

I expect them to defend themselves! They are after all of a sudden not going to stop being the thieves and bullies that they are and start giving us the bread and butter they've been starving us of!

And for your information, I know they have nuclear bombs, the sort was Hiroshima. Yet, watch me. Fighting!

Now. If you wish to argue that I don't think I have a very valid reason to go to the extent of tying bombs to my kids to blow you up, I really would want to hear it.

ijebosb:
Yes, you spoke about the plural Basilico's and I explained to you who a 'Basilico' was in the singular to explain why your view of "Basilico in the plural" not being fearful was the wrong way to look at it. A "Maga Basilico" does not include the grifters and/or the policy chiefs as Basilico is neither.

Why are you explaining to me what a "'Basilico' was in the singular" to explain my view of "Basilico in the plural"?

If I am not afraid of plural Basilcos, would I be afraid of a single one of them?

Perhaps you'd let me define plural maga basilicos since it is a word I made up and used, instead of you defining my word for me.

I am telling you that when I, buda, say Maga Basilicos, I, buda, mean, everyone, including the grifter and their leaders and the 6-3 and the pope and God and everyone else who wants to my body their choice.

And I am also telling you that I have no reason to be scared of any of them because I got very strong hard working persevering dedicated you and all the other ijebosbs fiercely fighting on mine and other womens' behalf and I have immense faith and confidence in your success.

Please don't make me have to tell you the meaning of the ijebosbs. I beg you.

And consider bra burning kind of fighting on my behalf.

Spain 1 - Croatia 0.

I am registering my presence. And I don't yet know if there's a Nigerian on the field

I think you missed out Alexander the Great and the Greeks. All the same, not a conversation I am willing to have with you.

bemeruca:
Land was taken from Israel by the Romans. Renamed it to Palestine. Ottamans took over turkey and other parts of the world. Took Palestine from the Romans. Arabs revolt against the ottomans with the help of Britain and Britain took over the land.

So at the end of the day, they wanted to share the land in two. Israelis were there for centuries and they got 56% Arabs who were there through migration occupation does not want Israelis to have anything. That is the gist. They want to take Jewish land. Even the turks are not claiming the land is their own.

basilico:
How are sperms trained?

Sperm is not a child inside my body! One can however train stupidity out of sperms dna, just like 'run fast' is trained into the dna of horses, or 'produce lots of milk' in the sperm of cows.

bemeruca:
Nobody goes into a fight at disadvantage. For robbers to come into my house, they will make sure they have the upper hand. I will only fight back if I am equal or have the advantage. If I am at disadvantage, fighting might cause the life of my family and also my life.

If I were a man and 1000 robbers were stealing my wife, I will fight until there is no breath left in me just as I would if they were stealing me. But please know that you are under no obligation to fight like I would. After all, its likely you were not prepared for hard and heavy tidings like I am, who "has before me an ordeal of the most grievous kind, and many, many long months of struggle and of suffering", and who's policy is "to wage war, by sea, land, and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime". That is my policy. And my aim is "victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be".

Trust me, if you, and not ijebosb, were the one fighting for my body my choice, I would be so scared I'd be terrified.

bemeruca:
The Arabs started the civil war that pushes the British out of that region and they started the war too. All because they want to take everything.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

Like the Ukrainians started the war to push the Russians out of Ukraine because the Ukrainians wanted to take everything?

And I'm certain you'd be content with the below, after all, you'd be more concerned about your bloody nose that some robber stealing your wife and children?

The plan's detractors considered the proposed plan to be pro-Zionist, with 56%[9] of the land allocated to the Jewish state although the Palestinian Arab population numbered twice the Jewish population.

Anyway, Israel-Palestine is not a thing I want to get in to with you. I consider it far too complex for you to see both sides, and we definitely have different views of it.

bemeruca:
How many times have you seen robbers go into a bank and the cashier and bank manager fight back with their bare-knuckles?

They instead open the vault and give them bags of cash or else there will be fatality.

If you come into my compound and I see it is a fight I can win or at an advantage, then yes... I will fight, else I will ask my people to lay down and and tell the robbers where the keys and the watches are so they don't hurt us.

Your compound and your wife and your my children are not vaults in a bank that does not belong. Besides, you and I are not the same, and there is no reason why we should react the same way, but I do hope if robbers come into your house and start robbing your wife and your children, that you wont just hand robbers the keys but will fight to protect them.

bemeruca:
I am not saying Ukraine should not fight back. I have told you multiple times that if a bully who is 3 times bigger than you smacks you on the head, you don't fight back if fighting will result in a bloody face. You cannot win or hurt the bully, fighting will only provoke him to give you a devastating blow.

When I come inside your compound and start behaving like I own it and you and your Range Rover and your wife and your children, you will not fight back because "fighting will result in your bloody face. You cannot win or hurt the bully, fighting will only provoke me to give you a devastating blow"?

Well, I guess some will agree with you. I would consider my face is already bloody when you take my compound and take my Range Rover and take my wife and take my children, and a bloody death would not deter me from fighting back.