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basilico:
How many have you caused to abort?

A total number of none if you must know, though its irrelevant to my argument.

I don't need my kids fed by government neither, but that doesn't stop me voting for free school meals.

basilico:
Can't get over my head how you casually downplay baby murder.

And what makes you think I give a flying fuq what you can or can't get over your magastupid head?

Did I murder your daughters?

IjeBos:
You keep jumping from place to place.

Yes, I do, though my general theme never changes.

Maga Scotus stupid!

My body their choice ridiculous!

Fuq them!

28th Amendment please!

Learn to jump and follow.

IjeBos:
Huh?

Roe v. Wade was a Supreme Court Ruling.
It decided that abortion was a right vested either under the Right to Privacy or under the 9th amendment (those rights reserved to the people).

The current Supreme Court revisited that Ruling and redecided it saying that abortion was not a right guaranteed under the Constitution as "deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and tradition" and not "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty".

You are not arguing what Roe v. Wade found with me. Pick another hill to die on.

I an telling you that the current ignorant maga majority stupid Supreme Court disagreed with whatever was agreed with RvW!

Though I do wonder why I should be telling you what you and the entire world already know.

Tell. What do you think would have been the case if the right to not be a slave was vested under the 9th amendment? Would we likely not still be fighting for the removal of chains from black necks?

RvW was insufficient and made the left feel comfortable on their laurels, and the Supreme Court has shown we need an unshakable 28th!

Vote Blue!

IjeBos:
And this is where you argument purposeful or unpurposefully breaks down.
If someone else dictates what fundamental rights you have, even if it is to agree to allow you those rights, then it wasn't a fundamental right and you don't intrinsically have control over that thing.

Ijebos, the subject of our discussion was never a fundamental right. A fundamental right in USA is constitutional, like the gun 2nd and no slave 13th, a privilege my body my choice has not been given yet.

Still, someone else can not dictate what fundamental rights I have, can't you see? Or don't you think I can tell you to go fuq your dictate and do what I want? What control do you have then when I can choose (either to illegally do what I want to my body in the state your dictate be damned, or move my body out of the jurisdiction of your stupid dictate)? You gonna throw my body in jail for an abortion and hope to win a future election with lots of mes campaigning against you from prison?

Think of it this way. In order for others to have control over my body, I first have to relinquish control over my body. And I am telling you that I am not willing to relinquish control over my body to others who vote to control my body.

My name is not Toby. I am Kunta Kinte! And we shall fight this until I get my 28th even if it takes me losing both my feet and my uterus in the battle.

In fact, that's an idea. You go low and ban abortions and I'll just go high and remove my baby making organs so I can't get pregnant in the first place, lol, though thankfully, there's condoms and the pill. Either ways, your dictating state's population will fall along with your tax revenue and we'd see how they like it then when you pull up a chart showing the poorest states are those with "my body state" laws.

IjeBos:
Roe v Wade guaranteed Reproductive Health as a fundamental right under the privacy implied in the 14th Amendment. Your body your Choice.

Roe v Wade did not "guarantee Reproductive Health as a fundamental right", Ijebos. If it did, this Supreme Court would not have "said that Constitution did not find that Reproductive Health was a fundamental right".

Vote Blue for a 28th Amendment of My Body my Choice to guarantee Reproductive Health as a fundamental right please so the Supreme Court would not be able to disguarantee that Reproductive Health is a fundamental right.

IjeBos:
The question is, if something can be put for vote and decided on my by the majority of that vote, can you intrinsically have personal control of that thing?

At this point I think you would be more accurate to think I am purposefully trolling you for misconflating my points, but we'll see in due time.

Under the very unfortunate circumstances the very corrupt maga majority supreme court has created, my answer is yes. And the intrinsic contradiction is not missed.

Imagine the majority decide my body their choice, and minority I insists, which I can, on having my choice. The worse they can do is arrest me and jail me, but can you not see how stupid and absurd they'd be when their jails are full of my choice women?

Some women might even intentionally get pregnant, and that's apart from the trolls who wouldn't be pregnant, and announce their intended my choice on twitter and facebook just in protest.

The Supreme Court has created a ridiculous situation that only ignorant magas can be pleased about, and I'm glad because, as usual, they are doing what would make them unelectable for many cycles going forward, as shown by your man outrage at their stupidity. And imagine the outrage of the uterus owners. The Lincoln youtube we are discussing says something like a 175% increase in women voters. Or is it that you think the majority of women are going to vote for my body pig's choice, pigs being what the stupid men who want control over a woman's uterus are?

Note that in some countries same sex is illegal. This proposed majority control of my uterus is as stupid and absurd as trying to police a same sex bedroom. And the thought of uterus control officer basilico on state borders just makes me laugh sarcastically in derision.

basilico:
You actually believe that lie about banning adultery or condoms. Not in America.
In UK once the Muslims outbreed you , they will do exactly that.

You far right Christians are no different to the extreme Muslims you denigrate.

Tying women to a stove is the same as covering her in a burqa.

IjeBos:
Why continue this. It's not what you have been saying all along. This is the specific part I told you I had issue with that you didn't include in this iteration of your remarks. The Supreme Court did in fact say you don't have control over your body, as they have allowed each state to decide what control you do have over your body.

I guess its impossible for you to understand that "the state" is We The People who get to vote at the next election to decide what our state does. That's democracy, whether you like it or not.

Vote Blue so your 'state' says your body your choice or live with the consequences of others controlling your body.

And beware! The red states will likely ban condoms and make sex outside marriage a felony, though those laws will not apply to the lawmakers!

Moyewa00:
After trying for 2 or 3 minutes I lost my erection.

You are obviously new to this. Likely a virgin yourself who thinks humans fuq like cockerels.

Let your wife understand that it is both your duties to put the big stick in the small hole so you both find a way in.

And take your time for Christ's sake! Marriage is not a 2-3 minute sprint but a multiyear marathon that you don't want to lose in a week.

Good luck.

You received it already, lol.

I must fire my accountant!

FBS:
Suddenly this place just quiet....no more Verstappen this, Max that...

How tables have turned

Max still very much on course for the title but man, the way Lando passed him was so funny to watch. Like Max was not even there.

Let's see what McLaren can or cannot do.

I don't think Max is so on course anymore.

Being 23 seconds behind the Mclaren last race he'd soon get caught and passed in the Championship I reckon if he continues to slow down. But would have to wait and see how slow he's gotten at Monza I guess.

This season might just become exciting.

ActiveFarms:
Foodqueen

State here last 3 digits of your bank account to confirm its you.

We go block any Loan App wey harass customers - FCCPC

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/cj5l1958ljjo

IjeBos:
This post sounds more reasonable than the others about letting states decide what people can do with their bodies.

Trump needs to go. He's coarsened the fabric of the US enough.

Its what I've been saying all along, and I think you finally decided to consider what I wrote here instead of the maths is racist interpretation you've been choosing to think I meant.

Dump and his Scotus is very evil. He is buying Americans with tax cuts while he creates a nation where he can grab pussy and be immune, and the stupid maga majority Scotus seem to want to agree with him.

That stupid might work with men, but my hope is it doesn't work with most pussy owners.

Dump will not go. He needs to be sent!

basilico:
Whenever I mention Muslims you go berserk...

You are far too irrelevant to feel anyhow about

basilico:
The problem with the left and Muslims is that

Weird is. You are sick.

Baldwretch:
Woah, what you shared in these pics is fucking, good money - enough to take care of one's need for at least a year.

And when I think about the fact that God has decreed that man tills the ground to eat, I can't help but doff my hat for you. You have it going very, very well for you, my friend.

Could you kindly take my hands, explain like I'm five years old and teach me these things. I don't know what a hoe is. I have never farmed or seen a cutlass before. I don't know how long it takes a maize to germinate, what soil to plant in, or anything in particular. I know almost nothing about farming. I know nothing actually. Please help me. I am based in Kwara state.

I hope you are aware that if he kindly takes your hands to explain like you are five years old and teach you these things, his hand will not be growing the corn cobs you see here.

In fact, are you so evil that you want him to divert his hands from planting his corn and spend his time instead taking your hand or did you just not understand how evil what you've asked for is?

Please consider being older than 5 years old, and invest in your own education! And accept my apology for being offended by your request that is not even meant for me.

IjeBos:
You keep trying to make the point that it is a good thing that the Supreme Court took away a woman's rights because now woman ....

You are one weird person, I do say. And I'm finding it a waste of my time engaging with you!

How the fuq can it possibly be a good thing that some stupid majority in a maga Scotus took away woman's right that women already had and now have to fight for?

What is unintentionally good about the stupid decision of the maga scotus is that their intention, which was to limit my body my choice, has awakened women so they don't just rely on Roe v Wade, but can now fight to have a my body my choice amendment enshrined in the constitution instead of having to rely on a weak Roe v Wade.

I mean, just see how so enshrined and untouchable the Gun Amendment is! I want there to be an untouchable My Body My Choice amendment enshrined in the constitution too, and the stupid maga scotus have awakened that dragon, to my delight.

Vote Blue, dude!

IjeBos:
It was a bad decision by the Supreme Court and that woman are fighting back doesn't make it any better.

I don't think you quite see how bad a decision I think it is. Its so bad that I keep adding adjectives (maga, stupid, corrupt) to describe the ignorant Supreme Court that made the bad decision.

Facts are, the decision has been made that the people in a state can decide if their state would my body my choice or not, and there is no where to appeal against that decision except to the people in the state who get to vote either way, and I as a democrat can live with that, especially when people in more rigid places like Ireland, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Iran are voting more for their relevant versions of my body my choice against the desires of their rulers who want to my body their choice!

If people in states in US want to be so backward and vote my body their choice as you seem to fear they might, do be aware that they would lose my labour and my tax, which I'm certain they would not like to lose, and their property values would fall because others like me would not want to live or work in such backward states. And if they are so gung ho with my body their choice, I might even boycott products they make in their state and all so companies may need to consider if they want to set up business in such backward stupid states.

Currently, the evidence is suggesting that anti my body my choice is very unpopular, (even in Iran!) and those peddling it look likely to lose the elections in November as indicated by the increase in registration of women voters and my darling Kamala. And if the pro my body my choice people do win enough, they just might give me a my body my choice amendment to the constitution, which will be a massive win for me.

ObaIgwe1:
Her policy to restore women's reproductive freedom is what is driving those women to register en mass to vote.

Ijebos, do you see why I delight that the maga stupid majority in the Supreme Court shot themselves in the head?

Please ObaIgwe1, do you live in USA?

I ask because your view above would carry more weight to some than mine if you do.

ActiveFarms:
Wow


Imagine if the government listens. We can crash food prices in just 12 months rainfall or no rainfall. I submitted over 70 pages of research that food scarcity was coming since 2010 no one listened to me. Thankfully I sold my properties to get this started. I hope to start a good bank and give free food next year across at least three states

When I go back to read some of the stuff I write here, I feel like it was not written by me, and that some Spirit captured my mind and wrote it for me to read.

Someone listened to you. That someone is you.

My email is on my profile. Bank, please.

IjeBos:
That's a very weird way of putting it. The Supreme Court decided to allow the collective on the state to decide what the individual or 'you' should do with your body. By definition that means your body is no longer controlled by you but by a collective.

Yes, Ijebos, weird perhaps, and by definition, somewhat. It means that we the collective of the people in our state can decide what is allowed to be done by me to my body in the state. They however do not have control over my body as they can not make my body live in a state with stupid ideas that trump my body my choice.

Its democracy, you see, but let me introduce you to how stupid it can be.

Bar the Constitution of the United States of America which amends that I can not be enslaved, for which, God Bless America, the majority of people in a state may decide that any person whose monika starts with a 'b' can be enslaved, and a Supreme Court, like the maga stupid one you currently have, might agree that the state has the right to decide thus. But thankfully, there's the 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution which provides that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction", so they'd have a hard job enslaving the bs.

Now, if Americans so do not like that Roe v Wade was abolished and that some states now want to my body their choice, they can vote in November for majority Senators and Reps and a president that can constitute a 28th Amendment entitled My Body My Choice, and that would be a mega supreme win for me.

In my own view, the Supreme Court, in abolishing RvW have put that 28th Amendment on November's agenda, to my delight. Without it, I'd be crying already that the 48th is more likely magadump.

ActiveFarms:
Bro have a look

I pulled my clothes to cross river because the routes are flooded. The flood got to my Belle level

I crossed path with a fully grown cobras that raised to strike me once. I crossed paths with other snake species twice or thrice.

I have been bathing with river water for months

I fetch borehole water two hours away for my drinking and cooking

You used the sweat of your brow to produce all that maize and my pride in you is like as if you produced it for me personally.

I am so very grateful for your gift to me that I feel I should pay you for it if you would send me an account to pay it to so my gratitude is not words only.

ActiveFarms:
Bro, you are wicked. No one gave me a dime

I spent well over 3-4 Million Naira.

I know no one gave you a dime. People like you and my good friend ytdivine do not pray to government when you can pray to the sweat of thy brow.

I just want you to tell that person so he would stop blaming the government for his own inability to sow.

budaatum:
And you wisely must have done it with the sweat of thy brow, unlike lazy fuqs who pray for their manna from heaven.

Op, your biggest asset is not your land, but the brain in your head with which you sweated to grow the produce on your land that you got with your brain. Please note.

fastseo:
The Federal government should give youth incentive to go into farming and also provide cheap farming tools to enable it less stressful.

Any loan or help towards farming should be paid through bvn not through party agent

ActiveFarms, please tell this person about the incentive and cheap farming tools that the Federal government gave you to help you produce these cobs.

IjeBos:
The only way the Supreme Court could send it back to the states was if they believed that the Bodily choice wasn't a fundamental right guaranteed by the Constitution.

The (corrupt stupid) Supreme Court can believe what it wants, considering Bodily choice is not a fundamental right guaranteed by the Constitution. Though I might be wrong, so please show me where the constitution guarantees body choice as a fundamental human right.

IjeBos:
ANd they didn't. Meaning, you have less rights with your body ...

Meaning, they said (we the people in) the state should go and decide if I have less rights or not with my body.

IjeBos:
And, no, the Court did not say you should decide. The court said other people should be able to have a choice on what you can do with your body.

That, I'm afraid, is democracy. Though the Court did say not "other people should be able to have a choice on what you can do with your body"!

What the Court said is the majority get to decide what we do with our bodies in each state. And see the video that brought us to discuss this showing people, women, registering to vote en mass to decide come November. Do you seriously think they'd vote to take my choice away from me?

IjeBos:
By definition that is what you are advocating, other people dictating to you what you can do with your BODY. Thus it is no longer "My body, My choice".

This is what I'd call a maths is racist sort of logic. If the stupid bs on here had written it they'd say I'm forcing them to abort.

Are you just ignoring what I say and replacing it with what you want just to argue pointlessly?

Pray tell why you'd think I'd want the sorts of stupid bs on here dictating to me what I do with my body?

A more nuanced understanding would be "our body our choice", and I don't see millions of American women voting "my body other peoples' choice".

It is my own opinion that the maga stupid majority supreme court has shot themself in the foot and head on this one. But I'm willing to wait for you to be able to say you told me so come November.

Speak to ActiveFarms. He's a thousand fold!

https://www.nairaland.com/8198084/rate-farm-produce-guys#131730026

bemeruca:
Right, you are satisfied they are arresting People who post on their own Facebook accounts. What about my body my choice like you always shout?

Are you dumb or what?

You yourself posted the non-arrest of "People who post on their own Facebook accounts", and I posted the arrest of your supposed flag waver.

Carry your stupid math is racist reasoning to someone who appreciates it!

My body my choice, is not 'your body my choice!'

IjeBos:
The Supreme Court said that you have less freedom to control your body than you do to own a gun.

This is not what I understood the Supreme Court to have said! The Supreme Court has not even decided what control I have over my body, and have not endorsed my body no choice, yet.

What the Supreme Court said was each state must decide if I have the freedom to control my body or not. And since We The People is the state, they've actually said I should decide. And see us registering in droves to go decide come November.

I'd in fact be delighted if the same corrupt Supreme Court had said each state must decide if I have the freedom to carry a gun too. But they can hide guns behind an amendment that my body hasn't got, yet.

Are you going to sell it, or process it?

And if the later, into what?