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Christianity Etc › Re: Same-sex Marriage/relationship Precludes You From Being A Born Again. by budaatum: 12:05am On Mar 07, 2022
elated177:
What should your Jesus worshippers be?

I don't worship Jesus.
Bible readers should not be slaves neither, elated.

They were rulers when their God created them, and Eve showed them how to free themselves if they did end up as slaves, but if they can't, there's always Moses.
Christianity Etc › Re: Same-sex Marriage/relationship Precludes You From Being A Born Again. by budaatum: 12:01am On Mar 07, 2022
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 12:00am On Mar 07, 2022
DissTroy:
Now you put it correctly: It's your agenda negating the actual truth.

Post like yours are the ones which should actually have the fact-checkers' label as false information.
If you'd bothered to follow the conversation from its inception you'd understand the irony of posting a positive outcome for drumpthgp to prove my point, but of course that would mean work on your part which is not to be expected.

The truth is drumpthgp did not cop a plea for a crime he claimed he did not commit, and it would have been stupid if he had copped a plea.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Name Of Your God? by budaatum: 10:22pm On Mar 06, 2022
elated177:
Wow! I am surprised.
Why are you surprised?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:16pm On Mar 06, 2022
DissTroy:
New York Times and CNN or the Leftist media are no dependable sources for news about Trump as those outlets have repeatedly admitted their hatred for him over the years since he became POTUS.

It's like using Daily Post Nigeria as a news outlet source about Igbos - they are obviously biased towards Igbos and have a Fulani/Hausa-centric agenda.

Al Jazeera would be more credible.
That's the news that fit my agenda so I've used it.

Feel free to post from other sources if you please.
Christianity Etc › Re: Same-sex Marriage/relationship Precludes You From Being A Born Again. by budaatum: 10:14pm On Mar 06, 2022
elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

You cannot serve two masters at a time. No man or woman who is married to his or her fellow man or woman is a follower of Yahushua the Messiah.

Do not let anyone deceive you.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!
What I think is, only slaves have masters and Jesus worshippers should not be slaves.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Name Of Your God? by budaatum: 9:56pm On Mar 06, 2022
elated177:
Budaatum, what is the name of your god?
buda does not have a god.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:33pm On Mar 06, 2022
This is what happens when you refuse to cop a plea for a crime you claim to have never committed.

The New York Times: How the Manhattan DA's Investigation Into Donald Trump Unraveled.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/05/nyregion/trump-investigation-manhattan-da-alvin-bragg.html

Politics › Re: Modular Refineries Can’t Refine Fuel Due To Price Regulation – NNPC by budaatum: 9:09pm On Mar 06, 2022
Here's a good sum up of the effect of subsidies and government incompetence in my state.

Okerenla:
The distributable federal allocation for the month of January ( but shared in February) is an indication that there is a fire on the mountain because the allocation accruable to states dipped to a four-year low. Unlike in December 2021 when N699.82bn was disbursed, only N574.66bn was disbursed in January of this year. The sharp drop in the allocations follows the Federal Government's announcement of its plans to deduct N950bn for the payment of fuel subsidy allocations due to States in 2022. If the situation persists, many states, particularly grossly indebted states like Osun, would find it difficult to pay salary and pension of their workers because about 35% of what should be available to them would be sized down for subsidy payment. For January, Osun state, for example, was allocated N1.425bn but the sum of N1.8bn was deducted to service its loan. What this means is that the state did not only receive nothing in allocation, it also recorded a negative of N375m which would be carried forward in the next distribution..
Politics › Re: Osun Economy And Why Electorate Must Keep Faith With Oyetola by budaatum: 9:06pm On Mar 06, 2022
That O-Thief must not be allowed to get his cronies in ever again!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Name Of Your God? by budaatum: 9:01pm On Mar 06, 2022
TenQ:
You prefer the Tetragrammaton or Tetragram of Yahweh?
יהוה

I guess this is also from the English Tyndale Bible
budaatum:
Actually, i prefer none. My understanding of my reading says I mustn't.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:52pm On Mar 06, 2022
basilico:
(I cant prove this but I think Bengazi consulate was overseeing arms transfers to Syrian jihadists).
Of course you "can't prove this", and neither do you have any evidence for your claim but trust you to believe your own kraken and to be promoting bamboo on here.

Sigh.
Politics › Re: Modular Refineries Can’t Refine Fuel Due To Price Regulation – NNPC by budaatum:
obi58:
Bros we don't. It is standard global practice for serious governments subsidize production of essential commodities instead of consumption. .
Actually, serious governments tax production and consumption of essential goods because tax is the only place governments get their income from.

But you want government to now use that tax money to subsidise a portion of the economy to the detriment of the whole?

obi58:
Saying subsidies is not good for economic growth is simplistic at best and elitist at worst because no economy can flourish without government intervention either via regulation or spending.
Regulation and spending is not the same as subsidy, Obi, please!

Government can spend by investing, and the better spending is on infrastructure, and not on recurring consumption which is where subsidies end up.

obi58:
This is why we canvassing for getting the refineries working again and government doing everything to ensure they operate optimally for the common good.
Where I'm from we say, keep doing as we've always done so you get the results you've always gotten. I myself laugh at the stupidity of repeating what results in failure.

You've hopefully noticed that government has repeatedly failed at "doing everything to ensure they operate optimally for the common good" for decades now.

Government has not, can not, and should not run refineries or any industry because they are usually not successful at it.

Seriously, I can not believe I need to be telling you how incompetent our governments are!

obi58:
And you can keep on singing it that we need to pay international wage rates to attract the best oil workers. I refuse to believe that with our daily production quota we will be unable to pay those costs unless we sell crude in dollars.
I believe you should be paid a competitive global market wage instead of the paltry 30k the government insists on paying you. That way, you'd be able to travel internationally, pay good schools to educate your children, and buy a brand new car instead of having to settle for 15 year old junk from Europe and US.

But please forgive me if I am valuing you far much more than you are actually worth. I guess I'm assuming you are one of the best and worthy of a competitive pay instead of being paid peanuts.

Career › Re: Update: What I Suspected About My My Diabolic Boss Was Actually True. by budaatum: 8:20pm On Mar 06, 2022
ParpahSeventy:
There are a lot of stories in the media about dead bodies found in the society with missing body parts,
With people like you performing rituals with human parts why won't there be "stories in the media about dead bodies found in the society with missing body parts"?

The point is not that you don't do JuJu, but that the JuJu you do does not give you the result you do the JuJu for!
Career › Re: Update: What I Suspected About My My Diabolic Boss Was Actually True. by budaatum: 8:14pm On Mar 06, 2022
ParpahSeventy:
I want to talk about this separately so I don't give a "logical mind" like you an excuse to escape my question anymore.
I won't be surprised you equipped your library with books like basic science, biology, health education and the likes, you don't sound like someone who is well read so equipping a library effectively is definitely a herculean task.
Well, be surprised to know that fiction predominated. It's a local government library after all. There were also a lot of books for children too as I wanted to get them reading young. Then there were books on religion from churches who happened to be so generous that I then went to ask for books from mosques for balance, Orolu being in Osun State where Muslims dominate. And of course, science, health and the like, as secondary schools and universities donated books too.

And yes, it was an herculean task that I took on more than thrice. You try getting containers of books past Nigerian Customs and you might start to have an idea.

ParpahSeventy:
When we talk about changing our current society, equipping a Library is not one of them, seems you are too daft to know this, My God!!!
Perhaps go to the Orolu Kingdom and ask how many people developed themselves by books in the library before you start talking rubbish you make up in your head.

Just the fact many had a place to go to read their own books made a difference to many, not to talk of having the vast variety.

ParpahSeventy:
There are a lot of people looking for food to eat, houses to sleep in, a soul that will cloth them, someone to pay their fees, a lot of girls in need of good sanitary pad and all you can brag about is equipping a dead library that won't have any impact in the community and the lives of it's occupants and you are here talking about great minds, do you read books at all, do you travel to see people, see their culture, see their lives at all?
You sound more like someone who's lost but thinks he knows a lot about creativity and growth.
Here is where you show how utterly ignorant you are. You want to be fed instead of being taught how to feed yourself by reading and learning.

I guess you expect me to tell you how much I budget for other people's school fees and list countries I've been to and lived in, but I'm not going to bother blowing trumpets at ignorant you who prefers to make crap up in your head and believe it, you who haven't done anything for yourself believing JuJu will be the solution.
Christianity Etc › Re: Allah In Hausa Bible- A plot to deceive the gullible by budaatum: 2:25pm On Mar 06, 2022
Antiislam, do not post things I never wrote under my name please. It is dishonest to so do.
Politics › Re: Modular Refineries Can’t Refine Fuel Due To Price Regulation – NNPC by budaatum:
obi58:
More propaganda. The US subsidises domestic agricultural production and this has not discouraged farming in the US in any capacity. If anything it has encouraged farmers to farm in the confidence that the government would cover any losses they incur if their produce is not sold or gets bad. So what are we saying?
And you think that's a good thing?

Almost 90% of the $540bn in global subsidies given to farmers every year are “harmful”, a startling UN report has found.

This agricultural support damages people’s health, fuels the climate crisis, destroys nature and drives inequality by excluding smallholder farmers, many of whom are women, according to the UN agencies.

The biggest sources of greenhouse gas emissions, such as beef and milk, received the biggest subsidies, the report said. These are often produced by large industrialised groups that are best placed to gain access to subsidies.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/14/global-farm-subsidies-damage-people-planet-un-climate-crisis-nature-inequality
obi58:
Why can't we emulate these good practiceshuh
But we do. Oil subsidy, wage subsidy, and I'm certain you are worth a lot more than 30k a month.
Politics › Re: Modular Refineries Can’t Refine Fuel Due To Price Regulation – NNPC by budaatum: 1:18pm On Mar 06, 2022
obi58:
If as you say we are incompetent. Why then do you want incompetent oil workers to be paid at par with their competent counterparts in Saudi Arabia?
Did you read the bit I said we hire oil workers from India and pay them exhorbitantly?

It's a global business, Obi. You pay market determined wages to get competent staff or hope your oil springs out the earth by itself or you get it out with our amazingly wonderful JuJu.

Nigerian startups are raising billions, but can’t find workers
https://restofworld.org/2022/nigerian-startups-are-raising-billions-but-cant-find-workers/
The Oil Industry Is Facing A Labor Shortage
By Michael Kern - Nov 30, 2021, 4:00 PM CST
The oil and gas industry worldwide faces a talent gap as workers contemplate moving to renewables or leaving the energy industry altogether, a survey by recruitment firm Brunel and Oilandgasjobsearch.com, cited by Reuters, showed on Tuesday.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/The-Oil-Industry-Is-Facing-A-Labor-Shortage.html
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 12:47pm On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
They have not been found guilty by a jury oga. I have provided numerous sources with cases where guilty plea is mase by the innocent and you typed that in bold. SMH.

Those who take the deal or guilty plea does not face the jury... Your response is void.
They decided not to take a chance with a jury and pled guilty instead, is the point Ben. And your guilt has nothing to do with anyone else's case.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:49am On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
What they did to Flynn was a conspiracy? Lol ok.
I'm certain we were talking about the guilty Jan 6 insurrectionist.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:48am On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
Which is why i have never said they didn't. I only said till they indict the others in that group with the same crime it is hogwash.
That's like saying, despite Ben being found guilty by a jury and thrown in jail, his sentence is not valid till others are found guilty of the same crime.

Trust me. I'm insulting my intelligence by quoting you.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:05am On Mar 06, 2022
Ibime:
You talking plenty shalaye but haven't addresses the facts of the case.

A conspiratorial mind at it's finest.
Fuq! You got in there before me, lol.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:04am On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
Nothing you typed address the point we are making. My point was that the FBI is coming out with this after they(media and other actors) have been dragged for using sedition and and insurrection to tag rioters.
Kraken, Ben. You believe conspiracies and ignore the facts.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:03am On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
I asked you to watch stories on investigation discovery channel on cases where people are pleading guilty and you are telling me about a movie. Even that does not take away what I am saying or you failed to understand. Some people will take the deal, some will face the jury... It is hope to them and the circumstances they find themselves.

This is from Forbes.com and he went on to say:
Some people, Ben. That does not mean the Jan 6 insurrectionist did not commit the crime he pled guilty to. Even you said copping a deal is usually to save you from a harsher sentence for a more serious crime, but trust you to ignore facts that are inconvenient for you.
Politics › Re: Modular Refineries Can’t Refine Fuel Due To Price Regulation – NNPC by budaatum: 10:59am On Mar 06, 2022
obi58:
Lie from the pit of hell.... Crude oil quotas sold on the international market is determined by OPEC yes but we determine what we export.
Obi, please do educate yourself. Crude oil is currently selling for about $100 a barrel, and not because Nigeria or OPEC set the price, but because international supply and demand does. And we export because that's currently where the market is, and if we don't export, Nigeria, with no alternatives will starve.

What's funny is subsidies completely eliminate the benefits of high crude oil price because we end up paying it all to importers. Go look at the [url=http://saharareporters.com/2022/02/27/states-face-salary-crisis-nigeria%E2%80%99s-federal-allocation-drops-four-year-low-n574billion]allocation of your state[/url] and see how much it's reduced by since oil price went up, you'd see what I mean.

Politics › Re: Modular Refineries Can’t Refine Fuel Due To Price Regulation – NNPC by budaatum: 10:49am On Mar 06, 2022
backbencher:
So basically goverment should drill for oil at a loss while driving out all.companies drilling oil because they wish to.make a profit doing so.

And then government shoukd also pay workers drilling the oil bad salaries because fuel must be cheap

And you know that governemt can apply.that logic to other businesses too?

Countries that do what you advocate end up collapsing economically.

People have the right to make a profit..whether phone seller or oil.company drilling for oil. You won't work for half your salary, so that the poor would benefit, why should you force others to?
Government already applies that logic to other businesses! They grab all new graduates and pay them allowee, thereby distorting the labour market!

In a free labour market, wages will be much higher than the suppressed rate being currently paid, but I bet some will stone me if I campaign for the abolishment of NYSC.
Politics › Re: Modular Refineries Can’t Refine Fuel Due To Price Regulation – NNPC by budaatum: 10:46am On Mar 06, 2022
obi58:
When you said government you hit the nail on the head. Your analogy with farming is quite incorrect. Oil is a natural resource which is the wealth base of the country and the government decides the quota for export and domestic use. Government provides licenses to oil firms to prospect oil. Any oil firm who finds it unprofitable to explore oil at government determined prices is free to exit the market because more important things like the common wealth of the nation is at stake. We can't live in penury as a nation to satisfy the fat salaries of oil workers if we are serious as a nation.
You are funny. Does this so called "natural resources" naturally just flow from the natural tap I wonder?

You "pay fat salaries of oil workers" (3 months work one month off, an Indian driller in Nigeria once told me without revealing his salary while sitting next to me in first class his company paid to get him home), to get the "natural resource" out of the ground. And if an oil firm finds it unprofitable to drill the "natural resource" out the ground and get it to market, in the ground will it stay earning zero dollars for you so you will have to "live in pernury".

Nigeria does not determine the price of crude oil, is what you miss here.
Politics › Re: Modular Refineries Can’t Refine Fuel Due To Price Regulation – NNPC by budaatum: 10:33am On Mar 06, 2022
backbencher:
What you are saying here is the equivalent of 'why doesn't the local farmer get paid less for what he produces, so that I can have cheaper food'. That's not how it works in reality.
I needed an excuse to sell my electric tomatoes, again.

budaatum:
Electrical Tomatoes

The emboldened is about the only bit of this that got my attention but I notice it caught no one else's.

"Price controls"! It means a product is kept at a price set by government, and in Nigeria, we know it's kept low and very likely beneath the cost at which it can be sold at a profit. Like petrol really. But we can at least claim a reason for petrol with our crude oil and our ineptitude at running refineries. Electric though!?

Imagine it were tomatoes. You invest in land and fertiliser and labour and grow them, and when you get them to the market and government sets the price. I'm absolutely certain if that price is higher than the cost at which you grow your tomatoes, you wouldn't mind much. You'd likely be delighted if it's high enough for you to make a tidy profit. And if you're fortunate and the price set is so high, you'd likely invest in more land and more fertilizer and more labour and grow even more tomatoes. But this is Naija, where the price set by government is more likely to be way below your costs so that after you sell your tomatoes, you would have lost money.

Now think, you lost money on your tomatoes. Are you going to plant tomatoes next season? If you're into the charity business or you're stupid, you just might. But if you're not and have rent and school fees for your kids to pay and you want to eat and pay the interest on a loan I very much doubt you'd be stupid enough to throw your money away growing unprofitable tomatoes!

Well, that's the case with electricity in Nigeria I'm afraid. You generate it, transport it along unreliable transmission wires, lose a large chunk of it to illegal use and theft and what you do get paid for does not cover the cost of producing it. Now tell, would you plant electricity next season? I very much doubt it unless you're into the charity business or you're stupid of course, but somehow I just can't imagine you'd be either.

So, what's the solution you might wonder. Increase the price of electricity of course. But come on people, increase the price of electricity so electricity planters can earn more money and plant more and sell more? Surely you must be cursing me by now, or haven't you noticed you'd have to pay more for my electric if you want it?

Ok, perhaps you're all nice civilised folks and don't want to curse me so let's try a different way of looking at this. Imagine Buhari removes the price control so I can sell my electricity at a market determined price like I currently sell my tomatoes no doubt at a profit high enough for me to want to plant more next year. Are you cursing me yet? I'm sure you would be if it was the subsidy on petrol I were talking about removing. Hell no! You'd likely stone me if you could get your hands on me!

Well, that's what this piece is saying where it says "The private sector is given little incentive to invest.” After all, I'm in the electric planting business for the money and the profit and not because I love you all as Adam Smith would say, so why give you light if you aren't paying me for the priviledge! And you wanna complain you're in darkness?!

When you pay me enough to cover my planting of tomatoes after paying for the land and the fertilizer and the labour and the interest on a loan and cover what I lose to theft and illegal harvesting, and still make a tidy profit to reinvest, I will plant 12000megawatts of tomatoes and I will sell 12000megawatts of tomatoes and even more megawatts of tomatoes than you can eat even because you would be incentivizing me to invest what you pay me in more land and more fertiliser and more labour to plant more tomatoes so I will have more tomatoes to sell you and make more money. But if you want cheap electric, keep your price controls and don't incentivize me but don't expect me to waste my time labouring in the sun just so you can have light because, like you, I ain't that stupid nor into the charity business!

Anyone cursing me yet, because I am telling you, we are too cheap!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:27am On Mar 06, 2022
basilico:
Instead of substance in your writing
Kraken is not substance except to magas like you.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:26am On Mar 06, 2022
basilico:
I'm honestly thoroughly pis.sed of by Budaatum.
Nothing delights me more. I'd be pissed off if you weren't.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:25am On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
I have already gave u instances of people who plead guilty, escape death penalty only to be acquitted 10 years or more after tech advancement brought out new evidence. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Lawyers encourage their clients to plead guilty all the times even for crimes they did not commit. You should know this if not you should watch ID Channel for a bit.
Last night, A Time To Kill was on telly. A little black girl was rapped by two white men and her father shot them in public. He was offered life first by the prosecution if he pled guilty but he declined it. He was offered 20 years for manslaughter by the judge but declined that too and went before an 'all white jury of his peers' in Mississippi, who, despite all attempts to find him guilty, found him not guilty and he walked.

It's just a film, based on a fictional book by John Grisham, but I could not overcome the irony of it being on telly just as I'm educating you to stand and fight instead of cop a plea for a crime you never committed.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:45pm On Mar 05, 2022
Ibime:
These two conspiracy drinkers Basilico and Benalvino wrote a lot of trash without highlighting the difference between the Oathkeeper guys case and others on Jan 6th who got let off with trespassing charges, some with just a slap on the wrist and many without even a custodial sentence. Escaping a heavy custodial sentence from Jan 6th I one of the easiest and light court cases you can fight due to the sheer volume of people prosecutors are dealing with. Cases of mass disorder usually see offenders go scott free or with light slaps of the wrist.

The key difference was the premeditated planning and handing out a cache of ammunitions, and plans for engaging in a armed confrontation with the National guard. Therein lies the step-up from trespassing to seditious conspiracy.

Most of the time, the varying niche and off-brand topics that these two coons discuss in detailed agreement with each other will have you shaking your head at the web of alternate reality programming that they have enmeshed themselves in. It is from these two coons I get to learn the hot-topics programmed into cultists by the alternate reality thought-formers on the darkest parts of the internet.
I knew someone will eventually come and burst the bubble of ignorance they love dwelling in.

grin

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