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KnownUnknown:
The Lord says, “ Lies beget lies. Creative lies or propaganda? Creativity is not lying. Let the words that accompany thy images be true. A lying tongue leads thou to hell on the road paved with good intentions”

Your creativity is not a lie, its just not true. See what you created above. "The Lord says", or you read in a book that someone wrote that the Lord said to someone the writer never met and you want the "Lord said" to buda.

There is always a link accompanying that image for those who are not too lazy to see its already been pointed out as untrue. Or would you claim the Parable of the Good Samaritan is untrue too because its a story?

KnownUnknown:
Am I supposed to be impressed that an ape offered a human a helping hand?

You post this picture to prove what exactly?
Budaatum used the Orangutang as an example of moral behavior and the picture taker as an example of immoral behavior while lying by omission that the person taking the picture understood the man was not in danger.

Anyway, how about another perspective of these similarities.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/chimps-killing-people-in-uganda

And buda was lying about the Parable of the Good Samaritan that buda was creatively using the Orangutan to illustrate too, or is it that you just seeing in literal black and white?

I ask because you can't possibly be against buda's creativity. No how!

KnownUnknown:
Aristotle, know not . This yarn was woven with the
Whorl of Exigency as demanded by Providence.

As in, you were weaving words without knowing where your mind might have gotten them from?

Drumptf was not in anyway committed but I guess we can say he still is committed since his recent re-inauguration: No?

Committed is when you've moved every single soldier out of the region before you hand over the White House so I hope he be done so he don't kick the can down the road when his term runs out.

sanpipita:
Regardless of US military withdrawal maybe we need to ask ourselves why its been so easy for Taliban to take over, what happened to all America's military investment there, are they saying they cat keep Taliban at bay if America isn't not there, some things about this Taliban resurgence doesn't add up, it almost feels like an ambush.

The Military Swamped!

KnownUnknown:
Everything that exists is an instantiation of an eternal idea. An Eternal Idea is the perfect or ideal form of any object, naturally fashioned or secondarily fashioned by man. This means there is an ideal apple, ideal human, ideal bed, ideal bird, ideal house, ideal star, ideal atom etc that exist in the eternal plane and anything in this material plane participates in or imitates an eternal idea.

You need to tamper past Aristotle.
He was not the only God that wrote.

wirinet:
The US should have learnt how to completely conquer people - land, mind and soul before embarking on a military invasion.

Jah would never give such power to orange heads!

basilico:
If the Chinese invade, the Talibans would be disappeared never to be heard of again.

Provide some basis for this claim.

Start with a list of "Chinese invade" please.

sanpipita:
The whole point is Taliban is backed by some good level of local support and interests, there might be dissenters but they are taking a beating right now.

I must have needed telling "the whole point is", least I dissent and be "taking a beating right now".

Forgive buda.

wirinet:
I vehemently disagree with you. The Afghan debacle is one of the greatest failures in US foreign policy. Just like in Iraq, the US went into Afghanistan without any clear objective or agenda outside getting Osama bin Laden for the 911 attack. No long time strategy.

The US should have lead her allies for have a longer presence in Afghanistan - maybe 50 years or beyond, until the present generation of die hard Islamic fundamentalists die out. The British were in Nigeria and Ghana for close to 100 years. You cannot significantly change the mindset of a people in 20 years.

In 20 years, the $2 trillion and 2,500 dead would pale into insignificance when compared with the havoc an Islamic fundamentalist Taliban can wreck on US and it's allies, along with their interests.

On geo-political strategic levels the Afghanistan withdrawal was a disaster. Afghanistan is situated mid way between Russia, China and Iran. A strong US presence there would have been a very stategic position. Now I am sure China would rush in and create an alliance with the Taliban. The incoming Taliban government would need money to run its government and China is always willing to loan rogue governments money - with conditions attached. Imagine the anti west alliance of China, Russia, Iran and now Afghanistan. It would be more difficult to rein in Iran.

Throughout history, countries invade other countries for exploitation or for strategic reason most times at huge financial and human costs. The did not exploit its advantageous positions in all its military adventures. They are too impatient and usually give up after a couple of decades. We all now know that the best way to defeat the US military is just hold out for 1 or 2 decades and they will run off with their tails between their legs.

Short term thinking superpowers of the world, lol!

Unfortunately, it wasn't even their duty nor their role. They went in on lies for revenge and a lynching.

basilico:
Tell that to buda before she makes a fool of herself
Already there is a some woman governor in some district. As soon as Taliban takes over she will be under 'house arrest' And a man will take over

And that is what the woman wants, ba? The woman is standing there yelling "taliba taliba, take over. My woman opinion must not matter"?

Let me help you. You deserve it for genderising buda!

sanpipita:
There's also some local interest who want Taliban to take over so they can share power and dominate minorities, ..........

Except that these are dominating majorities, you might find, with a terrorist interpretation of Sharia.

basilico:
This what Talibans dont want because its against Sharia. A 1990 photo.
One among many things.

Now show me what the people want please and not "what taliban don't want".

sanpipita:
There's also some local interest who want Taliban to take over so they can share power and dominate minorities, an Indian lady told me Afghanistan always been like this and hardly knows peace.

So not everyone accepts taliban, right? And they are agitating so there's no peace?

sanpipita:
It's a random thought and there's been reports of Afghanistan military losing support of people basically because of their corruption and high handedness

I think the highhandness of taliban is much harsher.

Its like gun touting magas imposing proudboy ideology after forcefully taking over on Jan 6!

basilico:
Dont be stupid. Extreme group fighting for a religious cause is whats happening in Afghanistan

Like "boogaloo and proud boys and BLM and Sanders" are "extreme groups fighting for a just cause"?

Educate yourself please.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2020/06/30/you-have-no-right-complain/education-social-restrictions-and-justice-taliban-held

basilico:
They brutalize their way into power

And those "they brutalized their way into power" over, like it like Americans will like it when boogaloo and proud boys and BLM and Sanders "brutalize their way into power", right?

AmazonTopaz:
The women and girls are the ones I pity in all these.Women and children are always vulnerable when there is conflict/war

To some, seems women and children don't count. See one pig telling me to provide one of them so he can personally question whether she likes her vulnerability!

basilico:
Find me one person in that group saying they don't want sharia.

You are stupid. Don't talk to me till you use you brain!

sanpipita:
This whole thing is perplexing but again could just be Afghanistans want this, the resistance from Afghan army is almost non existent which is too good to be true.

Never done this to you before, have I!?

basilico:
I explained with examples that a group of zealots have wrought havoc to their society once they captured state power

And the "society" are welcoming and happy "that a group of zealots have wrought havoc to their society" after capturing their society?

basilico:
The Talibans believe in strict implementation of sharia.
Any nation or society that is ruled by clerics has. the same punishments for transgression.

And your argument is that the people on whom the type of sharia you are describing is being imposed is what the people want? That they are almost begging for it in fact?

Tdotbluejays:
Well. Thank you for confirming that they are already under Sharia even with the occupation of US and NATO. No wonder some of their forces are refusing to fight the Taliban. They probably see the Taliban as fighting a just cause. The armed forces personnels may just be in the Afghan Army for their daily bread.

Thank him for giving you permission to believe what you want to believe you mean. And don't miss the irony of where you are taking permission from instead of using your - I beg your pardon.

The "armed forces personnels" are afraid to fight the Taliban, who after fighting the "armed forces personnels" will go to their homes and fight their parents and spouses and children and family and farms and businesses and their neighbours. It's after all not exactly the case that the armed forces personnels' family is safe in USA!

basilico:
Afghan will not be the first to be under Sharia law.
They are still under Sharia law as we speak so Taliban will not be bringing anything new.
They want sharia Let them have sharia.

The above is like some ignorant person yelling, "they like Biden! Let them have Biden!"

It is not true, Bas.

Tdotbluejays:
The Taliban only need a little effort to convince people to switch sides.

I don't know how to make you realise that the effort the Taliban is using to convince people to switch sides is immense. But let me try.

Ignore my attempt to brainwash you please. Show me what you call "a little effort".

Tdotbluejays:
As per the Taliban:
It seems Afghans themselves don't want to fight and are quick to surrender to the Taliban. A lot of them probably want an Islamic/Sharia rule.

I think the women don't like it. Under Taliban, no more school for women. Taliban will insist on marrying two and three and more instead, and hood them so they are unheard.

budaatum:
Bubu! Bubu! Bubu! Bubu!

I'm after some attacking.

Tdotbluejays:
Sending some troops back to help evacuate American citizens and embassy officials.

American forces and other 1st world country forces can't be in Afghanistan forever. Britain and Canada for example withdrew their combat troops as far back as 2014 even though they left a few members as part of NATO.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57714808

Like we Nigerians. Only we can free ourselves.

You showed me that if my thinking does not conform to the reality I see with my eyes, I should change my thinking or pluck out my eyes.

You were a muse to me Collinsanele, so I borrowed for here. With the most sincerest gratitude.

Thank you.

Collinsanele:
With all the taxation in Nigeria, can you see any improvement.
Even with all the borrowings/loans, are things really getting better.
I initially thought the govt was sincerely fighting insecurity, but why make a former Coas an ambassador even with his lack lustre performance.
Why is the govt turning a deaf ear to some killer fulani herdsmen that are kidnapping, killing and maiming people.
What about the obvious violation of human rights in Nigeria.
I understand your point, but let's be factual and tell ourselves the truth without attaching any sentiment whatsoever.
Nevertheless, Nigeria would be great again.

budaatum:
Me, buda, is the government! Those ruling today were elected from amongst myself by myself either directly by my voting for myself, or by me sitting on my ass doing absolutely nothing so those who now rule were elected. All those horrible nasty things you mentioned - "some killer fulani herdsmen that are kidnapping, killing and maiming people", "obvious violation of human rights", etc, are also all being done by my very Nigerian self!

If I were not been stupid and very ignorant I would not be doing those nasty things to myself, and if I had opened my eyes and very carefully scrutinised those who put themselves forward from amongst myself to be elected to rule me I might have chosen different rulers who would ensure I do not stupidly do myself. But useless me sat on my ass expecting government to be my messiah and save me from myself and now me myself is wailing from burning in the hell I stupidly ignorantly created for myself!

Thankfully, na democracy we de now, where I get to have 4 years to learn the stupidity and errors of my choice and correct them.

Lord please open my eyes so that I do not stupidly do myself again at the next election so that I can make Nigeria great and have nothing to wail about instead of ignorantly sitting on my ass wailing for all I desire to fall from heaven like manna. Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim Aleluya Jesus Christ Amen!

I hope the above is "factual and tell ourselves the truth without attaching any sentiment whatsoever" enough for you.

Join the Nairaland Democratic Party and be the difference you want to see!

Buckeyemedia1:
Simple just imagine waiting in vain for one person to come & change Nigeria, when democracy is about the people?

Not only about the people, but for the people to make changes all by themselves.

If you could create your own biafraforum, should you not already have done so by now? But instead of doing so like you should be building and developing Biafraland, you are here destroying Nigeria and everything else associated with it! Or would you like to claim that the only way to create Biafra is to not destroy Nigeria?

You will indeed fail until you stop destroying and begin building yourselves instead!

I am certain the Nigerian Government will put on kid gloves of wool when responding to your ruthlessness. But be prepared for fire for fire just in case they lose their gloves and history be repeated.